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wEAKLEY,I
J. U. WALLACE f
THE KIEHL MURDER TRIAL
Continied frorii last Week.
DR. THOMAS STEWART, sworn
t 'resith( in. Carlisle, nave practiced
medicine 21 years. I heard the hypo
thetical case, and from my opinion,
death ensued from acute inflammation
of Alia stomach and bowels, out
of view the chemical analysis, in view
of one prominent tiling and by two
secondary causes.
,At the time of eating
the pie'and sausage and the cream cake,
and running around; and afterwards
taking powders, wore enough .to
incite
'the inflammation without any other
cause, but in connection with the find
ing of arsenic by the chemical analysis,
the amount of arsenic so found, was Also
saficient _to -create inflammation— In
flammation caused by one- dr illi 'of
these, the arsenic, stands prominent.
Either.of the causes by which inflamma
tion Was caused, world produce death.
Symptoms prominent, aro pains in the
stomach and bowels, extending unto the
throat, thirst with some prostraadn and
some purging I had a case of arsenical
poisoning in a child, about 14 years ago,
but don't remember other than that, the
symptoms of burning were promi 7
nent.
Dn. W. W:l , TEvis, re-called.
I was ono of the attending physicians ;
heard the hypnthetical ; I think sho died
from gastro enteritiS, induced by arsenical
poisoning.
Same question as ached before, ex
ceptionS taken ,by4lefence as before, ex
ceptions noted. .'•
A. It would confirm the opinion that I
hav,V already expressed that she died
from acute gastro enteritis, induce by ar
senic.
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Same question as asked before by Mr.
---- Shearer.
A. My opinion would not be changed ;
never had a case of arsenical poisoning ;
I have read of a case in which all the
symptoms as detailed were absent ; can
not, recollect any particular case ; arsenic
sometimes effects the stomach and some
dines the bowels ; would nut pronounce
iv Lk, be a ease,--of--a-rseniLd_ ' onin r
floor the symptoms above, not alone
from post, mOrtern ON.arninrthon ; from
the symptoms and post inorteip a case of
poisoning.
DR, W. H. Cool:, aftirmed. .
I reside in Carlisle ; am a physician ;
have heard the hypothetical case' read ;
from the _history as detailed in the by
()thesis taken in connection with find
ing of arsenic, I would say arsenic was
the prominent cause of death.
Cross examined.
There is nothing,that would give us
all these evidences • gastro enteritis
might produce death ; I have seen no
cause to think that death was produced,.
by any other means; gastro enteritis
produced by a disordered stomach, tends
to recover ; I would not. consider a stom
ach that would take' in such food in the
Horning, liable to gash.° enteral., from
that Muse ; I have, had slight cases of
gastro enteritis ; it does not follow that,
because it was such that it was poison ;
there are not many cases of violent gas
tro enteritis produced by indigestible
food ; I can conceive it might be brought
about by cold water on a ivarm stomach ;
sausage, cream cake, Lt..c., -could not
produce it iii my opinion ; the symptoms
-alone would a I'OUNO, my suspicions; only
antimony would produce such symptoms
besides arikfnic.
Mns. HOFFMAN, re-called.
In the afternoon of Sunday, May 7,
Mrs K iOlll ceme to our house ; left our
place between 5 and 6 o'clock. On that
afternoon she said she was well, and that
She thought she would not take any
more medicine; she thought she would
be well enough without taking any
more modieinn.
Cross examined by 11r. Miller.
She said she thought she would do her
washidg nn Monday.
Mns. ELIZA CIMP, sworn. -
'I wa, there before Mrs. Kiehl's death;
I was standing beside her bed ; William
Dotter was there too; this was a few
hours befor• she died ; she asked me
who was tending to her; I Mid her I
was ; William Doner was standing at
her head,• and she asked me who is this
standing here ; I told 11cr it was her
brother ; she said he is to be married
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soon ; I told her he was married '
• then
she said you marry him ; I told her I
would ; she asked um again and I gave
her the same reply . ; then Mi Kiehl was
standing at her bed, and she . 'Aid " Oh !
John, chase out the cat or Cass," I don't
, now which ; there, were no cats there.
Dtt: IV. W. DALE, BWOr n.
It is my Opillioll, from the ease read,
that the cause of death was arsenical
poison.
Crum examined by Mr.
{Hypothetical ease read to witness-1
Ir the post mortem appearances were
presented to me Menu I would regal' it
case of "arsenical poison ; if the symp
toms were presented alone I would re
gard it the same ; the'llnding of the ar
senic would but confirm it; in poisoning
by antimony I w euld expect to find g. a tier
immediate Prustratiom greater relaxa
tion of t h e system, grei.ter secretion
of all the glands especially the urinary,
the matter from the bowels more
watery ; whilst in arsenic, in the case
given here, the ei:ine was scanty, whilst
you might have pain iu the throat and
stomach from any poison or acrid sub
stance takee•into the stomach it would
not extend so far front the stomach to
the chin or so intense in degree ; that,
with the constriction of the throat,
would always lead me to look for
arsenic . ; 1 have had one ease ref
arsenical poison, find have seen -
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a nriiiilier of cases of poi Son, not by arso
n ; i have not seen fatal eases, thats
avciueLy ciiteessiVe Closes; my opinion of .
antimony is given. by my experience
personally; antimony. and arsenic pro
duce much similar symptoms ' the only
difierenee is in intensity of degree and
character ; the post mortem, if a per
sou who would the Or any other disease
than by arsenic, 9 days after I would
expect to find more decoMposition—the
arsenic having -a preserative• effect;
have made post mortem exinin Mai i Otis,
and when I find in'this case .a anima
state of affairs from that found in other
'ease, I am load tp believe that arsenic
was there. I have seen bodies in a bet
ter state of preservation a hing,er time
afterwards, where no arsenic was •-pres
ent ; I have seen theni in a good state. in
.-•••' other Ponisons of the - year, and on the'
other hand Whore decomposition was
• inore•rapid ;in this case the distinction
is that the stomach was better preserved
than the rest of the body, decomposition
having commoner d about the neck,.and at
that season of the year I would hake ex
: Noted morn OfTernilVl3 gases; the symptoms
described in the hypothotical case, In My
opinion, taken as a whole,are -pecu
liarly, absolutely, and -entirey confined
to, arsenical poison ; 'I don't think that
the 'salts of alkali would produce the
symptoms in the hypothetical case with
, mit others to distinguish 'Won ; I don't
- think the alkali would proilitee the
symptoms laid doWn in the hypothet
ical case ; I have no experience In dile
ride of barium ; iodine would not pro
duce the symptoms ; corrosive sublimate
would not produce the coinbination of
symptoms, accordinglo my extiOrience ;
I think coppiw would not liroduce those
symphims; I don't know of any multi'.
blo substances that would prodime these
symptoms ; I 'don't know whether
°solid° acid would produce these symp
`. toms;, I know of nothing that Will pro:
this combination Of symptoms
1,171 ex-,.
°opt 10file j - have - known - Of nothing,
else that would produce nein ; a num
, bee of other substances were mentioned to
the witness Who afilrmedthat they would
not produce the same - combination 'of
symptoms ; there,are certain symptom&
Pt hid]. attend cases of Couto gastr
nritis, -and from this case I WM- tho
4mptoms indicate arsenic.
• )it. B..Bnextrer, sworn. : ,
I- am praegoing, physician. for 16.
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years, (hypothetical case hOre read 'to
the witness.) My opinion from this case,
the woman died from arsenic, as an
exciting cause the woman dyirik7ifrom,
inflammiition of stomach.
Cl'oBB examined by Me. Shearer.
I have no 'professional experience of
death from arsenic ; Miss Kline was a
patient of mine; she died in my opin
ion of enema`; I gave her arsenic;
gave it to her in -.Fowler's solution ; I
gave her ono (mike in m bottle ; don't
know how much she took ;,I did not at
tend Miss Kinn, When she died ; I gave
her the Fowler's solution months before
she died ; f saw her at my office after
slttl took- this nrseniol 1 gave her this
solution on the tirAt day of. February,
1870,; she died months after-a suppose
about six mouths after; it was 30 days
idler I gave her the solution that she
came back ; I Ime no reason to believe
she died_ !if arsenic;, in her last illness
Dr. Leffiver attendc‘ thi'reason I
know she died of enema I was giving her
iron to produce blood ; I saw her the
last time about three months before her
death-
Dn. J. S. BENDER, sworn.
I am a practicing physician about 8
years ;
[ have heard the hypothetical
case, from all the sy.mptomsiri connection
with the fact that arsenic was found in
the stomach and liver, leads me to be
lieve that the death was caused by ar
senic.
Gros.9 examined.
I only art ve at the conclusion 'that
death was ti.e result of arseuie, by tak
ing all the symptoms to,gether.
an. A. J. IlmnitAN, affirmed.
I am a practicing physician, have
heard the hypothetical case reed ; my
opiuion is, from the case stated, that
death was caused by arsenic. •
Cross examined by Mr. Miller..
Leaving out the chemical analysis
"I think I would say from the post
morteni syrup - Colas — that —death came
from arsenic ; the constriction in
the; throat is a prominent reason ;
the post mortem appearances of red
streaks of 6 or 7 inches long are strong,
evidences of arsenic ; would not know
what they would be caused from except
from arsenic ; I speak from my own ex
erience, and books also ; I have never
seen t lose re a reukTitrrmy - otherease --- ,
I never saw them in a case of arsenic ;
have had two cases of arsenical poison
ing ; 1 did not make the post mortem
examination • most all the authors make
the marked distinctions spoken of by me;
the two cases of arsenical poison i had
were' fidal ; they occurred in the early
part of my 'pract*ree ; the symptoms, as 1
rememper, in the fast case wets great
thirst—wanted to drink more water than
site could, and would vomit.
Josimi 11. nAVERSTICK, sworn.
1 am a druggist in Carlisle . ; when
persuus come to our store for rat poison
We generally sell arsenic.
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Crass examined.
We always label the' package, and
sinetalm Schmppe caso Diu Kaye kept
register.
MARY DONER, re-called. -
At Kield's table my sister, Mrs. Kiehl,
often cat sausage and pi 4, and it never
made her
Cross examined.
I was at my !sister's six tithes after
they moved to Shippensburg ; I went to
my sister's the 15th of March and re
turned the 9th of April ; my sister was
taking medicine then fioni Dr. Zitzor ; I
don't remember th• kind ; I never heard
her saying much about pain in her
heart ; sums days she did not •reel so
weak and some days she did ; she often
had a headache ; sumetithes ■he was
weak at the heart.
Miss ANN DUNEN re-culled for 6roBB
examination,.
I was with my sister when she came
to sco Dr. Bixler ; after we left the office
my sister took her . , finger and tasted the
medicine, and she said it did not tante
like the medicine Dr. Zitzer gave her,
anti she was going back, and when shs k
mint back tie said he would put 'some
t hung in to make it taste butter; I don't
know when she commenced taking that
medicine.
Mrts. IlorrmAN re-called for cross tX11,771-
1 don't know that Min. KielfCmajd
vim] mhe was over on Sunday that she
had headache, and was going home a
little early ; I never told Mr. Myers so. ,
Commonwealth - closed.
The defence was opened by James 11.
Graham, jr., esq., as follows :
GENTLEMIN or , Tl!e, Jta aT. - It It ft arntel.wfol and
openhathm of l'rovl hae that alter tdald
COllll, the dty thot alter the dark clouds alit storm
follow the calm and vonvlitne.( For months the de
fendant, John IC ehl, Imo heron obscurod by the
hoots of eosin. ton and dottln,`nnd for tat days Ins
the storm of pr Judlee and andi has rage t about
him Now 1• th r ft 11111 hi norm ttelntoud,
geotletnen, to alapnl those dark and nozi , no vipers
by tho broad, clear tit p 0 etratlng light of truth,
slot ',talent to ton J , hrt Hi, 111 nod Lie solid. In
their real nod netail
Too caught h .to folk d to eh erre that with a
few honor/1100 exeeptiohn, ell tit- witneesee for the
Commonwealth IVOr. moldier I/onto - el 4-r their near
r 0141.1 1, 4, Rlllllll me of C 11 1 ,11,11.111 10.P1111.1. There
ix not "tithenx to all important fact, who le free
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"ill thin blood. persoeutt-n Inxtnnd 01 it proitocu•
ion lots livoo intititot•i Why, out •r. John Dotter
tel you froni 1 lin wanton iittroil, that for right .ong
}mini he has not been in the hounii of JOll 11 Kiehl,
mil Mari gall thin Mite hat Mini mllat ag Ifint
bitter of hatred. A lather not visit lilt
daughter in nil thin time? the being near to him.
lion Intend° and malignant toilet be lilt heart.
ere 01 11 hap, y oppori unity to open the flood gin en
of lilt wrath upon no liject of hit winnity Hit
daughter in taken i.tuillonl) nick ,a 1111.100100 01 poi
coning ngibilot by thew her rnedl inn ntolen,
box taken, and now JOllll Kiehl In dimmed Ito
must ilk, nothing but hi oil whl nlako the thirst
Inr vengeance 1 1 011 now dm manner 01 W 11.100 0 ,011 un
tire tumid, and )ou cnnnit bill hare 1.010111,1 their
Yon mint he WOll Mall Oed of two thinga to con
vict In thin ea. flint, ant mall Khali die Of
poinon; mind Kiehl, the ilufinicht
it hilly ailnoninter it knowing It to potion 1
Now, 1.1111 theory of the ttoomini woe all It, tint toe
010,100 1.11.11. 1111111004 K.lllll to th. , porplitrati. of
-the n critne _wan ,hie love for nee, enthaiine Myers.
That Int w mw min.., unexplained 1.11 Hi oxiiialm
Mom hn of a nod ion war. .with ouch an on
calm—Halo. ifmlre i f •r her,. 1 xo Intent. won 111.
pll,lOll, that nil olintatilon o Ito gratilleation [mint
.1, rim - aired, 001 the poinonint of nit ` •111, bY lilt
111h1 rex attach I• , w almost - null unnatural 1 'Mutt
ratan wvle !ill, 1 , (111101 Ilin hail been tree Mann re.
pr i encli, who had al . aye before in roe all tinimpuniih.
ab e character tilionti hm onto on aliniiiiiined,lol it
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0' re in Ito twinkling of an aye, i., In tho.ltleltest
&gm I inproba bro. IV n y tint .• anew, n 'tarn atretoty
tont you 111" the a earrones were open, slid Yen In
the 1/0111re of tilt Wife, 4111 moil,, 110 .81
com
plaint and exprennell 110 dlsplossure, that story
time spoken nf, Woe to daylight, and nut In tr.e lark.
Duce this snow it guilty lose! Sin sill/how to you,
that Sirs IC,elti would hero nn other pees,on about
her k 0,410 her work ; that she went herself to !dyer&
and 'plead for Kato. 41 come to her !Into ; that oho
1.1 lit no ono hirelv to (10 her work;
that on o n e 00,01•011 oho plead with to ire In her eye•
for elate to gn with Jobtt' I i Fratikfinal ; and that It
WWI .41. 'MN instance, that 1500 WAR at 1101
Lumen so often. A totryet the only tenth, adduced
by nut VotitnronweallA, is tole, and they would'hase
you bang Jblrtl tticb hi, loco.° 1111 •111010.1 natural
afhottloo n d love for his full ;nautili. Then,ll she
did din fr nit p•lson, did her husband stlininbtt r It.
Ittwig It to be potion. pronecptinn have told
you a story of a boy Peeing Kiehl miw none
powdor, Ina cup, and !.1 a young Indy m.fting him
.Ire [no dose to his wife, and then examining the
cup to ono if thero were any dreg. left. The im•
pro .ability or this story In attparont, nn the fare of
It it he wore misting it polsonotte dose; for Kiehl I.
found by the lo,ltt the kitchen, by the window;
lite boy kno,thed at rho door ; now if guilt had boon
In ble heart, what would havo been WI, conduct !
Why toe et, n was near, Otero woro buckotent hand,
and thti 6,n1 c 4 p. sr mid hare loom oatited from him
and quickly found a biding place but dec. he do
this Olt 110 I when this ki;ott tetunde, ke bide the boy.
come, Tito boy enters goes to Om window, anifsits
down Co Clue.. to Kiehl that he site the p tenter In
the cup. Iclultl tells turn the noitileatiot is for his
wife, and doliberately son-It up. Thou carries it
lip Matra:and in presence sit bliss Culp, herald l• to
lite wife, who drains It down. Is this•the conduct of
a poloonor an of title it 1111111101,1, and reflect
bow ridiculous. Can you believe anything oleo, •Illen
lie woe preparing the medicine the Doctor pre
scribed?
1 Lure to p traded -before you na a strong
of guilt, that thn'd.fnndnnt, when lily wife was takett
elok; refuted ro g for a doctor. Not a wituent'
awoara that Ito rofoxed, but they . toll .you It w'
nuognnted to him that he altottld to no, and that he
did not at once ao. Thin in easy of 'explanation
'nano wo tell you that her attending pity/del:to had
i(lottl that Ilk tattoo Manna(' woo tornrahla, and.
that. ho Thal lint he alarmed ; that Otero - was no tom
of tomtit g off for ttnot her doctor, t lit pimply to fol.
low‘ltle dtroeti , 11 In talking the medicine. Not:ldes
thio,'wo will tiltorg4ltat ICielti was willing and WO
to go fur a doctor, but that Ida wllO retueod. One
witnent will tot.tify that oven when Mrs. Kiehl ma
- suffortniragonizing - pain, eh , wetratitildlf
nut hero a doctor, and oven then oho replied: "Ott
no; title doctoring around cuing too mach " Tier
ehnractorbatio trait of peouriouenesi thag showing
itself aro lig In her tixtr. ein • tr
agate; von will ho told , that '.Ktehl.lo
cause ho told two or thret pentane that his with had
-heart tincone. and that people wl h this die soddenly
Title; too, fa attar:it when you know that her uto •
Mem told the defendant that Iva wife toot :to affected,
and that she might drat) off.akenty lime. Alt I eon.
'limo.. how lilt poriocutore hart, coot AVOuttd In the
Vain Ondu.ore to fa ton upon tle.lr victim soma rot-
OanCo ufgollt, mid. how periersoly thorthave diet
'turfed tho moat natural el:Tr:instance&
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A witness toils you that John Kiehl asked her If
the Dom la were going to push this lgattust him and
have hin -echo ned, and this convornati. , n • took
- place on Friday b-faro hie •wife was' °penal, and it
will be arguLd that thin showed ho had II connclous,
noes of guilt. Novi, me will traces knowledge of
the busplaloris Of" the Donors to Kiehl bet re chic
time And wo will show this not only by amide, but
by their actions. Why, how did they treat him?
You have heard how Mrs. Donor; the mother of Mrs.
'Kiehl, rudely rebuked him et hie wife's death-bed.
- You riarriiilor the story of the witness who related
how, wheitZlits Kiehl called "John, John,' and he
Caine, and tho strong man was bowed down with 1
grief and,ndliction, ruid loaning ovier his dying wife
he " Well dank, what can de." , he, already
In the Meadow of do rth, threw her cold And icy arts
around him, crying i.e her love lin 1.7 •hn,ffrilen
how I would like to stay longer with you." ThOn•
so Ling, in hitter sorrow, he het ?her to him, when
brutally this mother bade him egome and tint
" Lnwlt in her face now." 116 w ffeentiftvly Is horn
illostrat•d n—nr..ther's lore and tenderness.. tta
will hare 'in pro f, alan,thow John Donor, when for.
the, first tints In right he went to Kl hit,
hpu.e, and there, When his danghter articuler
otortix, threatened to 'tvrilte John Kiehl, when in the
condnenn.of hi. heart he offered to a tend to Don- r'n
r-o. Contrast the brutal wed offensive condnot
these people at t•,a doe tlobed of their daughter with
that of Joh .1 Kith!, anti then say who is boar fitted
tt c , nffnit erhno,_ Why,- you have hodrd.from.overy
evictions who-rialto' irs. Kiehl dont. g I,r illness,
how_c natant and unremitting John antis in his at.
mirth - Cos Ito give her to drink, ho molnlerh-1 her
pert parched 'fps, he reeved her le bed, imiLlio it
was that only could fan. her.: Ity every action ho
showed his deep attachment nod his deep distress In
his
Dr. Rand narrate. that ho found n Tory small
quantity of arsenic in a small wooden Nut stf•mit
ted to alit for examionam Too history of that
box le this; Mrs. Donor stolo it irom. Al. hi's .np
b ,ord, rho gave tt to her husband, who took It home
a ...I placed it in an open and Unlocked cupboard
.hare notion. were kept. Hero it yen' d ed for
about ten days and dun, g this time six Done'. and
Gerd k owe how many other. besides, Inv died it•
The.. Mr Elodlor gets it; ho puts it leoseJc_in n
drawer among sono inipers•, Then Maglaughlin
keeps it a time, then Sadler gets it hxdtm, rind
tinally Prof 'Rand. Consider,th.t title box woo for
ton day ' s in the hands of John Kiehili,rnoei It allg
mint enomiee, arid you will know what Importance
to attach to the box. Maiden we will show you_
that the analysis mode by Prof. Rend le nnsatiefac
tory and incoriclu•ive. All au homilies and expert
ay that It is unsafe to rely on ono test alone, but
that coroborati,e must be used, arid that the only
obroliito Imhof of the presence of erroult" Is Its re
itimion to the metallic state. Prof. Bond used only
11-lurch's tent., This test consists in the h Ming
copper In the suspected gold with mutlatic
until the copper is o.atod with a greyish film; then
-hosting tho ..opperin a tont tube and, obt,dtili.g_
o tahouriti crystal+. There are oily. or ton other
substoncoe.to aides arsenic that will glean deposit
on copper, and about he same number that nil
give eight sided cryetals. Ilene° the ono', ele mint
Imo discard, d. I rant holiovn Prof. Rand would
11.ro mind, rod the btox,lllill he known'lte
Not a court m , rjury in Christendom would ounrict
In o.—poisoning mmee, - mf too organs exatnined woe •
hawkodwround amour the p. Jammers blitorend one,
inks in the manner the box bus been handled. The
quautim y found on analysis in extremely 'Mail. for
-drio---r-yellilir-arddfww-Oudd_wo know rim t
thouraidith ern grain of anionic Will 0,0 tlf.y din
tr. ct clystale. The quantity here is tilmoßt.
Inliai
shoal, and y. n can't convict on this, nor ueo It to
a link.
The braiik ink powder story killed Itself In its
Incept on, No such monstrosity could live. tie
c •free woman litunetbateiy v wilt, and bare
a bitter Cristo In her mouth for two d iya tbereafter,
when a cat that into broad soaked in the smite rotten,
1.1550 amoral lively , ns ever, and enjoys Its evening
Tiny undbtorbed. Thin story W. and We I Innen.
Litton,' in itn do ant. I k powders are horrid° 8
f while bbo,oinatc of posssh hs p0i..., tin
logwood In Its anti& to, and of these two the p..,w•
tiers aro ma,le.
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Did re Kiehl die of poison at all? We may
judge of this l.y three elements, viz: trio ny ptot.,
pogt, m rloni appearonces, Enid ebeinle .1 analyels
tV.. will soma) you Imo the Rya, tin. are not
peculiar to erectile:it poison mg, nor is there any.
tot g In th • post no,:. tom t • indicate Ile prurience
This th Colornetiw,Ailth mnat a trill!. The eyinp
lotus loot Hind WO Will show may belong to many
I rites poisons, anti nine netural din an n. 'rile
Yost inorteM will he shown to be (Allay in thA
en come, In omit ing to examine minutely, and in
actuallyslighting the , rg . wit eh her attending
physician alleged were disertsed. With nut one
brilliant exception, ell the roper v rot the Common
wealth brim their opinion of arsenical poisoning
the Uniting of n tr. laic by the • hemieni non yew
on . romorr this, prim, end their etrii. lure falls
We prep.,. to sh ov you how them gentlemen ham
Leon holding on LE very lin•table forme:Mon for the
presence of arsenic in her body, if an; any, found,
sill Ito run 11, explained whin wo prove to your
satisfaction, an we wul, that for Montlin previous to
her deatli`, rho had been under a coureo of arsenical
treatment, n d that ap to a vho•t time be •re her
she lied received from her pliyolCian
eitcloen gra'ha of arsenic. But.we iwep . t.a op here,
we wit g • further and demon 'trate hint the qua,-
wive analysis of I rot. Rand Is unreliable. and him
method a strange v whiten Ir in Ire .siu ram I Lid &Ai n
by the beet nu her nod most sir Iled "expert.. We
will call labors you, potter.. who hare made
chemistry their study And profession, whom expert
once has boon large and varied, and wh• nc repoia.
lion, are es ablieheil fly ench ne tlieeh, it will ho
liable dear to yon ilin 'it is Itlgr•l_v improbable
whether 'rob Rand obt•lned rine.half a grate of
aleent.' in the •mire b-dy. finerulatry in iii' most
oxnct bolermo, when JILL , a opeuitlonn and details of
alialy.lX aro carefully .attended to by eldlled hands,
but unit or sing! , cv the slightest detail, and the
maim manly/Us in worthlens.
Gentiom•e, to yon the tutu of John Riehl ban
been committed. CO alder well whet you hoer
toned nut what we all offer. Bear In mind h.,
pre•lons ,no I eh rooter; hi- nffection for bin wife
the feet that he and Katharine Ui on tiro c med.,
and that Mrs. Kiel] wit- the cense of h•r f einent
vlsIt•; the enolinatioi nof tie ioincloct before and
during him wife'm alclinenn, him natuiel rind ineore•it
manner; the utic••rtalnly no to the litvintit,of am,
air f end:lrani wan found at nil ; the explannileo
of Inn preeenee ; lintio.tanee t•i ',nett/Wiled
to the bon, Laiiviu-a of its being eel long In bin er
d.
mlen h indn, nod becnone or the ntiquhr gentility ef
armenic alleged to have been ranid; the Inntifil•
it'll,: Of the testa used; the faulty poet ru,rtom
M. towel - tall; chemical ennly.is Theo don t for
get how bitter a..d oaten, flog have been his ens
mien; how artfully they wooal hnee you construe
hn MOH untoral, actions Into ovida•c•n of guilt;
kee,lng hnao things all before you, I fent ante in
xttylnu, that you wilt render such n verdict tent 1,0
go linos of con CitalCP. no - ruin r• prole will terhm
3011 when order prieon wads eltsll .1 eon yonr eyes
but Mate ,d, a heppv consclousnese of n duty
performed In dellyerlog en Innotent end persecute I
ma. from the hand- of hi. enoruire.
DR. W. W. NEYIN,, called by defence.
I did not have any experience such as
reported in the evidence of Miss Mary
Isioalrer, made by Mrs. Kiehl, "No, John
you nuthe me take a powder on Monday
evening." I was, I think near enough to
hear, if any pinch was made ; I remember
Mr. Sadler turd Maglaughlin oalling at
my office on Monday after the post
,mortem examination was made; I re
member the fact of her having takerf the
powder, but not that she said John made
her take iv ; I took notes of the case and
do not remember that I told you I heard
Mr— Kiehl make the remark ; there is
rnothing of it in my notes ; it may have
occurred ; I have no recollection of it.
WALTMCK, re-called by defence.
What brought pie here first was: I
met Snydei in.the Sheriff's office ; came
between I and 3 o'clock ; left the Sheriff's
office and was gone about half an hour ;
'was introduced to Snyder by my father;
understood him to say lie was Mr. Kiehl's
brother ; acknowledad assent;
don't remember what conversation
passed between us' , ...tban ; 1 walked out
around corner of j.iifThlitc.,,Snyder fol
lowed me; we were talking there about
Mr. Kiehl; our conversation turned 'on
spiritual matters ; said you shunt('
know more about Kiehl than do, be
cause I have not been acquainted with
him long, he in your brother; he said he
is not exactly my brother, but my step
brother ; vie still talked on alniut Mr.
Kiehl; Mr. Snyder said he had been' a
very wild young man in 'his time, but
that he had reformed mid was doing
bettor, and that he desired tulalk to Mr.
Kiehl, relative to the salvation of his
solil; he said Kiehl was a bad man, that
ho would steal; lie and he would 'cleat ;
ho said ho had a bad character where he
Came from; after standing there mime
time•we separated ; Mr. Snyder got on
the horse he Came to town on and..my
father and I going together ; on the way
hoine,ho repeated his , worde chant lying,
etealing and ,cheating to me; he told
me the first' time at thee jail and' next
on the way home. • •• •
()roan exarnin,e4.
I don't remember the confortiation
any further than , I have already de
tailed ; I did not nay that Kiehl-able
the bridle.
, -
jAME,II FOREMAN, MO;r/S.
. Mrt Snyder came to the jail and told
me he wan Kiehl's brother, before I.loft
him into the jail ; he rectified it in a
minute by saying he was his stop-brother ;.,
this was before Mr: Kiehl -came , to jail ;
ho came in tuidltalcod toe whether John
Kiehl had caine, lio.,aai t he heard ho
was arrested, and ho Wan analens to see
'him ; I told him ho hati not' come yet;
and if he was there lie might not get to
•see'llini, that it was not proper that any
ono should see him; mid particularly. on.
Sunday ; ho said be had not Seen him
for'someltinte ;'he said then ho' was his
brother, and ho would like *cry 'much
to see' im t,,010' him then, ,when he
would come ha could get - to - see him ;
believe that, was about all,
41 &flit - "iii. -- forr - fsreetited.
John Kiehl spoke to roe about the bri
dlo before ho took it. .
_-
B. K. 'cloopYmn, re-raile d . -
After T brought- Mr. • Kiehl into'. the .
prison I *ad in the taco' and Sheriff
Foreman introduced Snyder to mo nettle
stop-brothor:of Mr: Kiehl; Mr. Snyder
made no objecitionslif . the introduction.
JAmns .K. Fonameri, re•ealled. • "
. I heard ~Frederick Montsor's . 'teitk
CARLISLE,' , P:ENN'A.,' THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7,187 L
inouy ;. the day Stormier wa's in jail lie
was-under the influence 'of liquor. '
ES A htunt — BRTILLY, If worn,
Lremember lkientzt.r being in, jail ; ile
was pretty well intoxicated,that day;
shut the door whore I was,bdoautie I did
not want to talk to he talked
pretty Ipud ; ho was 'talking to some
girls there ; ' I don't thinkte knew.much
about what ho was talking ; I saw him
talking to
,Kiehl in the coil luid been
in "jail about two months for separation
from my wife; Snyder' told'our that he
was Kiehl's brother.
,FRANIC. lloovan, Nissen. • • -
I
•
was working at tho lime kiln; ;Jelin
noffman was there f I was down in tile
lime kiln with. Kiehl; I asked • Kiehl
whether ho• Was married, he said ho was
not; we were joking together I then
askednoffman, and ho said ho wasmin,
then we talked, and I asked Kiehl how
many children ho had, andhe said none;
then I said,..Tohn-/ thought you. was not
married, thou he said yes I am married;
-then ho said yes, I am married, 'hut I
have no children ; he did not say iu that
conversation he was married but, had no
woman. ' •
.Cross ezanuned. •
In a joking way lie told me he was not
martinet ; I have not been instructed
what to say. -
Mans Hocu, sworn,
was prespnt when Miss 'Hoffman
was on the stand, and I saw the motions
her mother 'Made to '1161., and Lam not
able to tell exactly
,what the motions in
dicated. 3 told Mrs': Hoffman she would
get intda terabit) scrape by tie..
DAVID WALTRICk t releatled.
Simon Snyder told me ho was Tiehl's
step-brother the Sunday ho came to the
jail.
.Court adjourned until 9 o'clock a. m.
Thursday, Nov. 23.
Thursday Court met at 9 o'clock.
HENRY WALTRICE, re-eallod.
Mr-Snyder iaid to me twice .at_the
jail that he was Kiehl's brother, once in
the jail and once outside. •
FRANK Hoovnn, re-edlled. -
I hail a conversation with John Hoff
man on the tivolfth day of April, he said
to me, John 'Kiehl is going to raise a fuss
about t,lit which wan talked at the lime
kiln, then he tokbme to stick to him and
notbot-K-Iblil-get-abetad-of_him ; I told_
him I would tell the truth all the tithe;
ho said that Kiehl sa id he was going to
find it outright; I then said Kiehl will,
hardly make a fuse shout - that, for you
know how he said it; I didn't think Kiehl
would take a false oath ; Jolla - Hoffman
thou mentioned a man that did take a
falite oath and said be could take one too.
Cross examined. , .
John Iloover is mr.father, and lives
Miles of Kiehl's father; I have never
been in house; I am living now
with Joe Myms...;, I don't ...know how_it
was, Hoffm.ln Pik told me Kiehl was
going to make a fuss about the talk at
the limo kiln.
WILSON WALTRICK. SIO/rl6.
I know Hoffman, he and I talked to
gether, and I said I.think John Kiehl
would let OA!) and he, (Hoffman.) said
before ho (Kiehl) would get 'clear lie
would take a false oath.
Cross examined by Unnimonwalth.
I am not related to Myern, and I was
at Smith's barn when we talked. Mr.
Smith was there but I dhnit think ho
heard the conversation. It was about a
mile from Hoffman's. I think maybe
lam a relative of Myers. Uncle David
is married to a Myers—Barbitra Myers.
I know cousin Dave. , I came to court
on Monday, week. Stopped •at Mr.
Shearer's hotline. Hid no whisky that
day,. Didn't offer John Ilbffman any.
Didn't drink any that day. Thin con
versation- was after the August Cturt.
Don't know,witat month. I. was hired
at Hosea Myers.- •I didn't tell anybody
Mr. Bitilth heard conversation with
Hoffman. Didn't tell any one I was
making a good thing of it at this:conrt
as I- remember.
In chi/. _ •-•
I havn't been paid anything yet.' i
.got $l.Ol to go home - --car fare.
LEVI Savnitn, sworn.
I had a conversath , n with Simon Sny
der. Ile came to my house on-Sunday—
after-be came home from Carlisle. He
said Mr. Kiehl was brought to Carlyle
in
in evening. He told me helves in and
aw him, that ho -had a cunt/creation
with Kiehl, and he told him that ho had
bought poison, I dint certain whether he
said for rate or mice. He said ho ques
tioned him hard, and, ho said that ho
said ho had bought poison for his wife.
He said ,ho could prove this if these
other men wouldn't gn back on him; and
he told me that Myers was along with
him. I told him he should he quiet
about this, and let the men who were
along with him make it known. Then
litistaLted to church. On Monday morn
ing I went past where he worked. He
came dut and told the not to say any,
thing further about it. He said' the
sheriff "as there.
Crate examined.
I am related to Kiehl ; heir' my cousin;
so is Simon Snyder.
JACOB FAIR, affirnbeld.
Simon Snyder came to' my haus() on
Sabbath, day; I asked him if he had,
been to See Kiehl; I .asked him if it was
true that Kiehl had told hint so and so;
ho said he asked Kielil what he was do
leg hero ; Kiehl answered that tboy.put
him there for poisoning his wife; that
ho then asked, did you poison her? that
Kiehl said I 'bought rat poison ; that
then ho said no sir, John, you bought
poison to poison your wife, didn't you ?
and John Kiehl said yea ; I asked if
there was anybody present when he told
him that ; he said there was ; T asked
him who ; be .said Waltriek and the
slibritt
WILLI/at ADAMS, 'Sworn . .
I livo in Went; Pennsborough town-
Ship; Mr. Snytler lived on my farm Ist
of April, 1869 ; .Tohn Kiehl • maul living
on my farm in April, 1868 ; Mr. Snytlet'n
faintly and Eiehl nem not, on good
term ; 1 frequently hoard such rontarks
an "there comes the thief and liar" from
Snyder's children.
Croan'examinell. •
Kiehl didn't Mani ,orn ; Simon Snyder
did not ; I think ny sort has been riding
tho county to find rcstiinony for iiichl ;
my son in reading Itw with Air. Now
sham t 1 never detector! Sirrioe Flny.lor
stealing coyn. • „
In Mint
John Kiehi's character as n worthy,
well behaved citizen was as good as any
man's in the county. •
•
Ureic, examined. • •
_
I have lived 12 or 13 miles from Mield's
the last year Rod ri-half ; I have heard
rumors an to hie eli,racter in the neh.th
boyhood in which he lives, since his ar
rest; I heard first minim. 8 or 4 days
after his arrest; I have heard rumors, of
his intimacy with Kate ; heard
this after his arrest. r •
Dn. D. CORN 9fAtc, oifirsited, • •
I was doing business as 'druggist in
Cerbrle ; commenced three years ago
last August; I left. Carlisle on 20th May
last ; I never phi the defend:int any
poison. ••,
Cross examined. • • '
I was practicing medicine at the Homo
time ancLwas,frequontly absent from my
store ; my eon and a young man by the
name of Corbot adonded the atom in my
alumna°. •
In. chief.
)
My eon is in Pittiburg ; can't possible
be hero ; kimt a boOlc in whidt entries
wore made of all poison Bold-; dont know
that Kiehl ever was in mystore ; hlosars.
Maglaughlin and, Sadler onmutp mystoro
to coo whether wo had Sold him poison ;
'they loolced 'over register.'
I..ACCUI COttnrifT;:SUlOrn. — . ,• •-•
wad with ,Dr.,,Cornman from ;tenth
Pugust, 1848; nntil2o May; 1871 ; I novor
Sold defendant poison ;" Mr. Maglauglilin
got Met& gti-into' the jail I told Mr.
Maglaudhlin inT the jail. that I. had never.
gold, My,. Kiel! Arty . poieoP. \ • ,
Grrooommin,ed,, • •,.
. While ,•1* was' from store Dr.
ion"Johrt,,nee there; he is
17 or is plus old. • • : • •
'in
John .Coinman vent into jail with me;
he told Mr. Maglimekiln he didn't eell
Kiehl :any poison.
JonaFLEMING, •
I reside in Shippeosburg ;. I am a drug
gist ; first went into store m December,
1864 ;; I have been there - eier since ;'.I
never sold dcfondent.poison ; don't know
that any was sold-in our store to him.'
E. CoRNMAIP, 'suers.
I am It 'druggist; doing business in
Carlisle ; have been engaged in the busi
ness for 5 years. Never Sold poison to
defendant.
Cross examined.
Dr. Worthington is also, in tho store. ;
Thonias Wilsmr somotimes nttdnils for a
short time.
J. B. IlnvcnsTtcrc, retailed.
I - am a - druggist - in Carlisle ; hay°
never sold imy poison to John Kiehl,
the defendant. •
Cro,AB qatoftted. .
_ . . .
: f I liavo, kept a rittlitotloir the last_ 2'
or 3 years I have" sold poison to a great
many persons in tile last six r months ;
think I could toll six months after whom
I sold poisdn to ; I have a boy tending'
my store by the name of Charles'Fran
ciscus there is something about Kiehl
by which I could distinguish him ; I
generally look. pretty closely at the per
son to whom I sell poison ;. I novor sell ,
poison to any person I don't know.
W. F. HORN, reealled.
I am' a druggist in .Carlisle ; do not
iecognizo the defendant as a purchaser
at my store ; keep a register ; his name
is not upon it.
arose examined.
Would to Kay , ho was in my
store and I not recognize him ;look very
closely at every Rerson *iio comes to .
buy poison ; can recognize a man by his
forehead and upper part of his face.
DR. CHARLES WORTHINGTON, sworn.
I am a druggist in Carlible. Have
been for between four or five years.
Never sold any poison to- John Kiehl.-
Keep a register. Never say: , his name
upon it.
JOHN SIPS, Moon/.
Jam in Mr. S. A. Haverstick's. Been
there, last two years. Never sold ally
poison to John Kiehl.
Orms examined:
Never kept a register in our store be-
OYU Is 11a . as no ( own, a
jail to see him. tie may bm , p been
there for poison and I not ..iernber
hiM. May have gotton it and may not.
Don't remember having seen him in my
life.
CHARLES FRANCISCUS, swarm.
lam in Mr. J.• B. Haverstiek's store.
Never sold tile defendant any poison.
Crtias cramOkiliOn.
That is Mr. Ilaverstielt's•register of
persons who buy poison from him. A
lartte number persons come thorn to buy
poistitia. --Think could remember every
person who bought I'roM the the last a
months. Sometimes mark it down ono
day after sold.
ROBERT EOE, sworn.
I am sometimealiildr. JdielPh haver
stick's store; nevor'sold any poison.
DR J. J. ZITZILR, BiToria
I have practiced medicine about 25
years ; now practice in Carlisle ; have
done so for 14 years ; I knew Mrs. Sarah
Kiehl ; know her about ID years ;.1 was
physician to her father's family before
she was mariied ; In the latter part of
January, 071, Mrs. Kiehl came to my
office alone ; she told me she wan_ ailing
a lortiptimo, that 'she had tried . a good
many thingsand'they didn't do her any
godd ; she told me what was tlio matter
with her; rshe complained of painful
menstruation ; vomited•about the time ;
felt bad; weak; couldn't eat; said menstru
ation was insufficient bl ides that she
complained of palpitation ef, heart •, I
then requested her to remove iffieOlothes
to gi v'e me a chance to
First,'l examined thb heart,
.ffitunt an In
sufficiency in the tri-cuspid valve;' I then
examined the lower part of the abdomen,
in reference to the pain she ornidained
or ; the liver, glands and generally all
the other organs, and made an examina
tion in region of the ovary tube ;, found
an enlargement. of :Thor or five inches
in length and two' inches thick ; it
appeared to be uneven and sensitive,
from which I thought all • symptoms
wore caused by obstruction in that
falloptaffilffilie. It would be difficult to
.say whether it was cancerous or ovarian
dropsy. I took the test of the symp
toms in the digest, and it didn't alto
gether satisfy inc whether it was can
cerons. Then I prescribed a slight
ammoniacal- medicine that has a tend
ency to stimulate .the organs. I mean
the sexual organs besides. I gars her a
preparation of a narcotic, to be given at
the time when she got the . symptoms,
during menstruation, and directed it as
soon as the Limo would be over, either to
come back or send word. She came
back with Mr. Kiehl. I think in be-,
.ginning of. February. Then 1 - made a
close examination in reference to that
enlargement, of fallopian tube. Than
found it very sensitive, and symptmns
of inflanmiation during periods. It
strikes me her periods wore in latter part
of every month. Then I prescribed,
directed by my diagnosis, that it was
necessary to try to give that collection p.
chance tOdisappear, by using something
that would have a tendency to open
the fallopian tube, onto absorb it. ' For
that I tnado a preparation, one grain
arnenicum, aud two drachms sugar of
milk.. Made 24 powders, and dire&ted
them to be taken' ono three times a day.
Beside that I gave her a poWder
,com
posed of columba; unripe oranges,
and sabiina. That she used, and
as I VMS Nut istled front those symp
toms, that it agreed with her.
const it tition ; I made her some pills, and
for the deficiency in her heart I gave her
I grain of arsenic, 3 grain of alkalies
of hellebore, and the extract of beef gall.
This was in pills. After she used it
about a Heel: the ferratrine, in the pills
disagreed with her, and I stopped it oft.
I then prescribed a mixture, and after
he 'third time or her menarnation - own-
ing on she caine back again. Thenl gave
1 °untie Firkleas solutiOn, a preparation
or arsenic-4 grains to ounce—and more.
of the same bittern. She wan I.Wtaleo 6.
.drops times a •day until about 4or Is
days before the period, and then she
was to increase the doso until the symp
toms of changes would come on. •Then
she should stop, awl if it should "be as
painful as before then she wan to drop ,
that and ta tho poWders, and after the
periods were over she should cornmence
it- again. After the medicine was all
she ,was to come back or lot mo know.
If those spoils would come on she was to
send 'down. Title ' was 'the third Hine..
This WO about the middle of 'March.
During that brine the• powders and bit
ters got all, and 'Mr.,litohl came down
for 8011113 more. •Ho iismo about a week
after the middle of Much: Then she
wrotoV me, and Kishl canto down for
fear -I might not get the lettor. [Lettai•
of Mrs. Kiehl to. Dr. Dialer produced
and road.,d -
DR. .1. J. Z,Viiiß
March 28, 1871
Doctor,--I intuit let you. know how/
I am.. I think. I ain not, May'
baiter tow tlitiii Lwas. ,It hurts me, on
iny\it :iti,t' , sii. My drops aro all. .Do
y 9.4 Ilk you eitmhelpnie? '
Munn Maim. ,
. I go ' I his letter after Mr. Kiehl was
here Mr. Kiehl was there .frequently
bef o. • About the Brune 'day or prob
ably the next I received anther,. letter
which I conld , not fled. . These droph
were sent by mail: She told mei in the ,
'letter that she was Melt in her stomneh,
pain in her aide, ,was vomiting, auctsiok
fever,. burning in the bowels, palpitation
- in the heart.- pe.felt-so :bad-01, could-
not sleep. Ithinic a day or, two after;
/ I
wards, of xt'`day, 'Mrs. ' Kiehl Came
Carlyle th inorriihg 'mil told, mei about.,
her being o restless .' -
.-Lgavo:ber a. few
powders,, 'omit, ,narcotio afterwards by'
the weer .. Ito canto back for medicine,
and L aye him 'Medicine ,thea .again:
I gave him - hitters with savin. (dare
direct' tis for six- drops throe atria per
tpay,..that wont ; on until thil middle of
April. Be came back with Mrs. Keibl,
and thea I prescribed' for her ; gave' her
from that compound, oranges and mag
nesia ; this would' last her till came'
back again from California; all she
would need to do was to, take according
to, direatiens ; the vial was 2i and- 5
cninees' . ;.my directions to her were about
that time, she 'should increase it 1 drop
daily until some unfavorable synaptoths
of .iromiting, and then if, si
. 113 felt un
pleasant to take 12 di'ops altogether '
•
told Mr: Kiehl that she has causes which
would lead to death if not arrested,
oithatLfrom the disease .of' the heart, or
from ovarian tumor ; ho told 'me that ,
he would pay me very_vv'ell if I would
cure her; l told him that I would do all ,
I could for her ; Kiehl was at my office'
very often ; waked there ; came in the
morning generally before I was up ;
Manifested great concern- for her' wel
fare ; Mrs. Kiehl was under my arseni
cal treatment from 15 -to 20 days in .
February; and- in March the same, and
so in Anti! ; from-the time these symp
toms commenced until they stopped.
she could -not/change ; that was ,the
trouble; I administered , this amnia.
after the period of menstruation. tit
Lott;er of oaran L. Kiehl to Dr. J. J.
Zltzer, April 14, submitted and read ;
she told me she followed my directions
in 'taking the Medicine a as she generally
got very sick she used the preparation'' of
powdered solution ; I gave her opium
and then hydrate of chlorine ; I her, her
she should net take around at every
place. but should takd from me, • and _to
rise the powders they would relieve her
'froth these spells; I gave her the ar
senical pills once and was obliged to quit
them ;, then gave her same pills, took
the ferratrine from them ; a man and
his family were the first cases of arsenical.
poisoning I had • they looked like cases
oracule arsenical poisoning cruised by
apple-butter crocks. M. Line's family
were- tile - first J. attended, and cured
them;yia - nd—the—rest- except—one. -Mrs.-
Line was sick for months and then, re
covered. The rest did not suffer quite
as long as Mrs. Lino. There 'are three
stages. First, taking poison produces
pain,. rash. on face,
cramp and vomiting.
The patients in these cases did not roach
the second stage.
Clonit adjourned until 2i• p. m.
- Court met at m.
Dn Zrrznn, re-called.
Iu the cases I attended thorn was
cramp, contraction of the muscles, vomit
ing, a rash ; these patients got over their
sickness I had at the same timev other
cases front same cause ; in the Line case
I timid the arsenic ; the Dunlap family
was the last case I attended ; I lipid one
case a man.by name of Jacob Mountz ;
about 3 years ago; he had an affection
of sciatic nerve ; it was a very trouble
hi3Mo ease ; everything we tried failed ;
ho could not' rest and we had-to- give
him double doses of morphia, and then
gave him pills, of arsenic and extract
aconite and foi-ratinci; we commonewl
with one pillcontaining thrp9-twontioEh'B
of a graittiper, day and increased it up to
1 grain per day.; lie got sell ; I gave,
him 21 powders which contained about
1 grain : they were partly used and then
we changed the pills ;' about 8 or 10 pills
were used 01 the 24 ; then gave him pills
with - ferratine out. We gave her 24 pills
containing one grain in all: I gave
Mrs, Kield erne ounce of Fowler's solu
tion; giving her ti drops three times a
day ; this was in March ; after this was
used I gave her 21 ounces Fowler's solu
tion with two drachms of Hoffman's
anodyne tokeep it from fermenting ; gave
her same directions for second bottle ;
she was to incleaselrom six drops thiee
times a day a drop eabh day as long as
she felt no inconvenience at her stomach;
not to exceed ton or twelve drops eaoh
time; Kiehl came for medicine about
half a dozon times alone. '
Cross examined.
The first time Mrs: Kiehl came to ape
me was latter part of January. She
came alone. The second time shoMame
about second week in February, with
Mr. Kiehl. The next, time was, I think
in about one . week after. Kept- no
account of it. The fourth time, was the
latter part of February, or to of
March. The last time I saw her'was on
ApN, 18. Mr. and Mrs. Kiehl both
camd,tooether. If it is not paid, I keep
a my...ord .- of medicine 'T give , ," :f paid Ido
not. I do not keep a book in -which I
keep an account of all medicine I furnish
my patients. I have mentioned ail the
medicine I gave Mrs. Kiehl. They did
not pay for the .medicine they got on
eighteenth of April. I have that marked
down. I marked all they got from mu
that day. I say I have not charged in
my book a powder given to Mr. Kiehl,
and not Fowler's solution. I have that
book with me. (Book produced.) This
is only memorandum for myself. That
is only record. What is written in book
only expresses time, the natere of
disease. Did not put, do , n medicine.
I have a book in which I 'put, dotin name,
medicine and disease. I did not put
down the medicine I gave him that day.
br. Grove was, with me - a long time.
Can't tell what day in March they crime
to my office. I told Mrs. Kiehl it was
poison, and as soon as it began to pro
duce unpleasant effects site should stop.
Told her if she, had iketisation of sickness
in stomach, she should stop it. Alm was
to take it for 15 or 20 days..# .Told her
until she had sickness at her stomach dt
would be safe to take it as '1 drafted. I
got two letters tin Close suocessio from
her in the latter part of March.‘ He
came down that time' to see if I got
letter. I sent him a proscription by
mail. Ho was doWn before I sont it,
and was down right after to inquire
about taking it. 1 think he took some
'pills 'along. One time in March, Mrs:
Ktehicame alone. On 18th April, Mrs.
Kiehl was along with iviM. I left for
CalifMnia on 22d or 24th April. I didn't
tell. n y body I - gave Mrs. Kiehl dyspepsia
ills. I don't:keep any account of what
I say, da office. 1 havn't ally forMula for
dyspepsia pills. On 18th April, Fowler's
solution was all gone. hut II little
bit. She ' brought the bottle along.
phe Yiad no regular time for menstrua
tion"; don't remember that last time
she told melt was about Her period. I
thought the last tinie she was down
there was no change for the better, ex
capt her digestive organs wore a little
stronger. I thought the medicine was
doing her good. solar as her digestive
organs' were. concerned.' The cases of
arsenical poisoning I was called to at
tend wore from glazing on applobuttor
crocks. It strikes me that the _crock
was half empty. Mr. Line's family had
been sick an hour or an hour and 'a. ball
when I got there. ..Saw them in the first.
stage. Can't say what the result would
have been had it reached second stage.
Taylor on poisons is authority. I
.take Orfila sooner than any one. else.
Can't Say whether Orilla is 'hiring or
not. Counsel for Commonwealth read
ing from Taylor . on Poisoning by Ar
senic," asks witness wliother in eases
which lie attended the symptoMs de
scribed were present. Witness answers,
.ns„far as they go - they - are the symptoms
in_ oases of arsenical poison. I agree
with OPIIIa. 1 Ho speaks of ,prussic acid.
I Pitid particular attention to the pre
scription' I gave Mrs. Kiehl. I would
have bem i ad to hive soon her got
over her tro uble. Can't remember what
medicine 1 gave Mrs. Fitzpatrick same
day. -
In chief. •
I oily got 8 letters hem Mrs. Kiehl.;
have only two of them; she' didn't writo
tome in &Wary... ' •.•
DR. O. B. RUBY; moot. • •
Tho drliggistii in, Shipponsburg are J.
C. Altiok; Jiiileph Rankin and myself ;
I know John Kiehl ; I never him,
poison ; I attend to my store altogether
Myself. ;
.
JOB, traraiw,Or.73.
'I am druggist in Shipponsburg ; I
attend to the store. myself p .1. - never sold
Kiehl any poison.
CATRAILINI% MYARI, ate,orn.
I live in Southampton township,
be
tweon and from where John
Kiehl lived ;' wo moved •thereln 1850 ;
Kiehl's _moved there a year before she
'died ; Mrs. Kiehl and I were cousins ;
my father's family and Kiehl's were on
very good forme ; we Visited each other
a groat deal ; myfithevand Mrs. Kiehl's
mother were sister and brother ; I (but
went to Kiehl's last Fall, between corn_
cutting time and husking ; I was a few
days over•three week- at Miller's ; wont
from there toltiebllu; I luta at • Kiehl's
about 8 weeks the first time ; Mrs.' Diehl
asked mo first to come ; she asked me
before I. went to Miller's ; Mrs. Kiehl
had very sore hands first time, and I
went there, and that is why I went ; she
had totter on her hands ; corth
plaining nio,re or loss all the titan I was
there; she complained of her la, tit and
a pain in her head ; didn't comp'ain of
anything else at that time; it was some.
tithe after that she complained of a pain
'in the side ; she said I should lay my
hand on her heart and I did so, and it
fluttered very.. much ;,- I _told her She
ought to - go to a • duct* ; this would
make her very sick sometimes ; she did
go to Dr. Noviirin Shipponsburg ; she
took his medicine, and she said it did
not help her,- that ishewas• coming to Dr.
Zitzor in Carlisle ; she said the doctor
told her she had palpitation of the heart
very bad ; she amid doctor told her if she
didn't take 'care of herself ho could not
cure her; she should not. exorcise 'too
muck, and not work too much ; she
brought some pbwders with her ,• 'this
was' after the holidays; t h is was after I
had been at Miller's; had boon home'
a week or so; :I went back again
after she had got the medicine from
Zitzer's ; • she sent' for • me, she
was not able to do her work
The medicine she took made her sick.
John Kiehl cams for me. I don't know
who he asked for first. Nly sister Jane
wad' home. 'When I went over. she, raid
she was very sick and had sent ILm, me to
see if I would not do .her work Uir , her.
Site was not' doint,;7anyillitig when E went
there ; she corriplained of,,a pain in her
heart and in hullo:id.; she had to vomit
very mueLas ne4 as I can tell ; I was
only there that .time ; a feW days' after
that Mrs. Kiehl did the work herself ;
it was not long until.l wont -back again
for a couple of days, as 8110 was not able
to eio her work ; 1 was back and for
rward—a--iimber—uftimes-havheti—John- -
came overlie said eithorJane or
come,
ho spoke to Jane first about going
and she said she would not go, then ho
said one of us must come as his wife was
very sick ; this time- II was there ; 1 Was
only there one night; I found her lay
ing on the floor ; she was vomiting and
complained of pain in her' heart ; I did
not then go back for several weeks, in
the meantime she came down to the Dr.
WllOO she came back she told me she
used the medidine about a week before
wont there to do anything, and she
was not any better, for the medicine
made her very sick every time she
took of it ; she complained of her heart
and of her head, and the medicine
made her throw up very much ; I thibk
she got drops front Zitzor this time ;
`I was there 2 days and one night this
time. Thin was after - she came back
from Zitzer's tho second time that I kuow
of. She got very sick and vomited very
much. I did not think she s °old
live until Morning. She got better and
the next, evening I went home, and she
done her ,own work. I was not there
then for a couple of -weeks after. John
came over for me. She was ba lug, and
could notliniih it. I found her sitting
on the stair stop, not able to do any
thing: She had got so far as kneading
up the dough. This was on Saturday.
1 wanted to go 110010 emßunday evening,
but there was a very deep snow, and the
road was not broken. I went home on
Monday morning, after &nog the morn
ing work for Mrs. 'Kiehl. She wanted
me to stay for this- purpose. 1 recut
home and was not bask for over a
couple of weeks, and thou Mr. Kiehl's
sister came for me this time. I stayed
4or 5 weeks, can't say exactly. I then
wont back a week or 10 days before she
bath this last spell, as near as 1 can
mind. I was, there 2 days. The medi,
tine Made her very sick. I asked her if
elm thought it was the medicine, and she
said she thought it was. During that
winter, from the holidays until last
sickness; I presume I was at
about one-half of the time, as Mrs. Kiehl
had so much sickness, and she would
always send for me, as she said I knew
hors to do her work. I think she told me
she would take froth 6 to 12 drops, and
she told me she was not particular about
' dropping it ; I told her that when the
medicine made her sick she ought to ho
particular, as it was strong medicine ;
she told mo several times that "what
she took at once sho need not take at
twice"; I Often saw _her pouring it out
in the cup, she said the Dr. told bee to
take from 6 to 12 drops and that in
water; I used to see her put the water,;
in the cup and then pour the mi diethe
in on the water ; when she first got the
medicine she would drop it in the cup ;
she kept it in die cupboard in thehitchen;
it was a box of powders and two bottles
with d nips ; 'she most always took her
medicine ; almost every time she took the
Medicine it mode her throw up; she
would mostly walk to the water bucket
to take her medicine ; I know of her be
ing exit aordinarly rick a couple of times
that I thought she would not live from
'the effects of the medicine ; the last time
member of seeing her pour medicine
in the cup was not long before her death ,•
1 guess a week or 10 days, as near as
can remember ; the bottle was.thon about
full ; her spells of sickness were about
3 or 4 weeks apart; she complained - of
her heart ; thessl spells came on about
the time of her month) ericas and she
would always complain to in that it was
a pain huller heart-and in her' ead, and'
the medicine ; these-were the two times
I spoke of ber'being so. ill L thought she
would not live; the last time i was with
her was on Tuesday evening ; besides
vomiting she purged a good bit still';
the bottle was about a 4,„ounco bottle.
Cross examfned'byjErr'llaglattglqin.
The first Limiwent to John Kiehl's
was in the Fall'can't tell month, it was
'about corn . .cating• time ; I was there
about 8 weeks that time ; Mrs. Kiehl
was away for a couple of days seeing her
friondis, John took her down ; she- wont
on Thursday and same back on 111011.
day,; John .came back on Thursday
evening; I think this was the only tune
she was 'away during these 8 weeks,
her hands-wore so sore ; after leaving
Mayed home two weeks; I went home
-just before the holidays; - she was taking
medicine from Zitzor after 1 went back ;
the drops were. strung,' I tasted them, ,
they were bitter, very bitter; ehe sas
taking powders also ; the Medicine
would make ben 'sick • I *as back, and
forth at Kiehl's a number of times when
Mrs. Kiehl took the+, going home when
she got well ; when she would oat any
thing it would make her throw up ; when
she ' would vomit' • it was a green color
and kind of purplish ; she said the
medicine WllB,llO unpleasant to take sho
did not like to take it; I don't know
hoW long it , was 1
A went there before
Mary Donor came • it might
. have boon
,a week, and might: have 'been more; I
don't know of any other,liottles of medi
chid tteing in the cupboard, other titan
the 4 ounce bottle anti the- box of pow-.
dors ; there wore some tineture bottl
there also, such tie usually _kept about a
house ; the last time she was dome when
she Caine home she'told ins that sho told
the 'doctor: that the medicine was very.
unpleasant
~to• take, and - he had put
something in to make it morei.plensant
to take. •
Dn. RO.BT. E. ROGI:118, worm
I live in the city of Philadelphia ; I
occupy; the Chair of 'chemistry, In the
modicardepartm,ent of tjfe university of
Pennsylvania c the symptoms of arsenical
poleon ara.iixceedingly variable,- some
times irritating; sometimes , effecting the
`neryoussystem ; sometimes of a narcotic
eheraotei ;•when they an irritating, they
effect -. especially what is .ealled . the
mucus membrane, or " the lining mom=
inane of the Stomach and hotels . ; whoa
affecting the nervous system, they seem
to.attack' or destroy, what is called tb ,
power of enervation, not then producing
.especially - the irritation • of the mucous
membrane ; the symptoms are of a nar
cotic kind, 'when the system is over
whelini3d by a powerful narcotic, such as
_ 'opium ; from this it is evident that the
symptoms must "lie extremely variable ;
'sometimes wo have • weakness, faint,
nese, nausea and sickness, but .not
'always all of these. At times the
symptoms of arsenical poisoning, art
v.sniting, purging, extaeme retching and
straining, sometimes with ;mil sometimes
without streaks of blood in the vomited
rearter, but hot always all of these;
sonretitni an extreme burning of, the,
stomach and gullet up- .to the "mouth,
and constriction of the - throat ; =out-,
ponied by extreme unsatisfying and un
quenchable thirst ; at times, however,
this burning is absent, this constriction
of the throat, this burning of the gullet,:
. excessive pain in the stomach is ex
perienced, sometimes it is absent; some
times violent cramps in the calf of the
legs; this isnot - al ways present ; extreme ,
sensibility and sometimes a want 'of. ,
sensibility and of sensation exists ; some
times the patient feels chilled, cold, al
ternated with heat ; this is not invariable
and constant ; the patient is sometimes
extremely relaxed, the skin cold and
clammy ; restlessness is present ; the
eyes express suffering ; the brain is ef
fected in its powers, delirium and stupor,
and death may close the symptoms, but
several of these may be omitted and re
placed by °there showing' that many
organs and structures of the body• aro
susceptible of the impresSion of this irri
tant poison ;
these symptoms aro not
exclusively duo to arsenic; post mortem
examination and chemical analysis would
he useless, sine° all that would be needed
would be merely to remember thattlioso
symptoms alwaks bolting to arsenic and
when you found there you would be tare
arsenic was present.
Q.—Are not those symptoms you haVr
duseribed suffleieutlylike thosewhich gen
erally attend inflammation of the stomach
and hotels as to prevent us from distin
guishing between the natural disease
and the effects of - irritant poison? A.—
They are
Q.—Are the symptoms of arsenic con
-sidered-as-an-irrit,.4 }winon ilxed - a - m
invariable? A.—Tboy are not. The
symptoms of none of the irritant, poisons
aro fixed turd invariable.
It is among tile bei.t established truths
in medical science that age, sex, consti
tutional peculiarities, the state of health
at.the thee when taken, as well as the
quantity in which the substances may
be given,. influence materially if not to a
large degree the effect which the sub
stance may produce, and consequently
the symptoms that may attend. The
symptoms of gastro enteritis aro not ab
solutely fixed and invariable, but more
so than the symptoms of irritant poisons.
Tney, however, are, many of them, en
tirely like-the symptoms of the irritant
poisons.'Among - the symptoms of gastro
enteritis are those which attend inflam
mation of the stomach and bowels, often
roxtendang from tho lower extremity of,
the bowels up to the cavity of the mouth
with similar pains at times, similar
burnings of the gullet, and similar thirst.
Some of the substances that will pro
duce these symptoms are tartar emetic,.
corrosive sublimate, saltpetre, caustic
alkalies, oxidic acid, white hollaboro and
cantharides.
Court adjourned.
FRIDAY MORNING
DR. R. E. Roastie, Ch4ef.
It would bo impoaniblo to any what won
the cause of death as detailed by the two ex
amining physicians who made the post !nor
tem examination.
_lt is possible to deter
mine from a post mortem e.xausination the
character of the disease which has - caused
death. If it Wer'o not tor that, very few
post ruortems would be performed, since it
is a v,ry distasteful procedure. There was
nothing peculiar to irritant potions detailed
by the 1104 mortein examiners.
Cross examined.
But to he fair towards the postmortem
oxaminers, I desire to say that their report
of the condition of the bowels which they .
cut open would indicate some abnormal
Condition, but from what cause one could
scarcely tell. A medico-legal aut..psy
should he conducted exhaustively in my
opinion. The examination in this ciao
would not regard so exhaustive. If I urt•
derstood the report correctly, the gullet was
not opened and examined, the heart was
not opened and examined, the kidneys were
not opened and examined for the possible
evidence of Bright's disease. , The stomach
was not opened and the condition of its in-
terior examined. How far the ovaries were
examined I will not pretend to say,
since I understood Dr. Kieffer to say that
they were in a healthy condition. They
should have been opened. I presume they
ai•e: I would desire - to make a statement
lia I think is proper at this moment :
ihu stomach was not oponed ; it is very
often not opened in autopsies becauso it is
deired to preserve the contents of the
stomach for the chemical examination, and
therefore it would not reflect' upon Dr.
Kieffor profes.lionally for having omitted
lo open it, hut only destroys the complete
ness. or the po,o moment exttunnation. The
pots found on the hotly were Only the
miliar spots preceding a state of decompo
citiun or incipient decomposition. These
spots are net evidence of disease specially.
'Loo tumors or gangrenous swelliiig under
the ear were doubtlin.s the result of decom
position, and
. worn not tire evidence or
marks of any disease. s Tumors might have
existed during life. From my experience
and reading these spots or tunters were no
evidence of irrrtant poison. It is not pos
sible to determine the condition. of the
mucous coat Of the stomach by examining.
the exterior coat. The spots 'on the body
mid swelling under the car occur quite
frequently - in bodies in ordinary disease.
The stomach consists of 3 different laymi :
a tough coat, then rt muscular layerNite).:
on the inside the mucous tnembrane.N'bo.
those outer layers, the tough and mit& s
Mr, are not transparent, and, the farrMir)
might oilmen expect to telliii's'neightfOE
what kind of grain a .sack contained by
looking at the outside. 'From the report
of the chemist—goy friend, Dr. Itand—
where ho informed us that it Was ao offen
sive that lie could not with comfort bear
the'smell, I should say - that it was in such
a sotto of decomposition that it would be
inconsistent with the idea of the antiseptic
or preservative
. power of arsenic. The
word gangrene is used with considerable
confusion. Many persons speak of a thing
being gangrene. referring to it us n sort of
greenish rottenness. The true meaning of
the term as used. in surgerpis the slough
ing off of that which is diseased front thoi
which is healthy—in other words'mortifi
cation. W hen it has separated'entirely
from the diving part, and becomes, itself
dead, it then undergoes ordinary putrefac
tion or rotting. Q.—ln making 'a post
mortem ,examination for medico-legal ,
purposes, where peculiar sympb•ms have
been observed to have been treated by the,
attending physician, what organs should
be especially examined 7 , A.—lt is con•
sidered . proper to examine thoso or
guns - which are• suspected to be .the
seat of the .disease. I feel it but
due to, my professional brethren, that, the
failaro to examine the organs which:should
bo exiimined,'do not effect their profession: ,
al studding. I have been called upon,.
grdatly against my feelings, and Akio ..rny
interests; til have .only 'comer inlihtlaience
to tho authority of the court, after learning
from my friond Dr,' Reese, who had'ob
wined information from an eminenttlaiv
yet. that I was.bound to obey, both from
law and duty, 'lt is especially painful be:
mum I am 'called uritsit 'to comment upon
t ho chemical analysis imirfarmed by a broth
er chemist and-brother physician, 'a per
eohal . friend and one who ..Occupies as
high ft
. posftlCin its myself, in a sister medi
cal school. I therefore desire to say that
whaterier cothrnents make have nothing.
whatever. to do with .•Dre Rand's ability,
skill and professional standing. , A medico
legal, arialyaisahould be eihauative; scifar
- as to run the important changes through
which that' metal caw be passed in the dem
.onstrotion of Its presence, und in the por-
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TERMS-42.00 "a Year in 'edesoce.
$2.60 if not veld within the year.
formanco of 'thosq processes, which
prove absolutelyand without a. doubt, that
the substance is arsenic and nothing else. -
"t think Dr. Rand's analysis' waS not thus -
exhaustive:• • We consider it necessary in
proving in so grave a case involving life, ,
beyond . thepossibility of, error or doubt,
tliat.the arsenic and only arsenic is; the sub
stance. Dr. Rand failed, by ",.tionfining
himself to the Bettina tests, and obtaining
, ho.octoliedral, or .8 sided crystals. IsToth
mg short of obtaining the , metallic spot of
arsenic, the mottillie mirror of arsenic add '
:he stibscqiieut treatment of the spot and '
the, mirror, by the eharacteredic Jest for,
arsenic, is regarded sallcient in ~delta.
case. The Mar:lt's apparatus. in it, linen
lied • appllcatiotiOlie reduntbm test, and
coo liquid tents, after having obtained the
nght-sided crystals, should have been used.
am convinded that 'Dr. Rand was himself
satisfied that what he had "done proved the
presence of neiehicr; but it would not-sitisfy ,
the demands of analytical chemistry. 'An
experienced farmer . may !Oak over nits
grain field ; and - say fit' once that it is an im ,
perfect field', he feels it by his own familiar.
contact ; but a strangiit to farming Would
not so feel it. That farmer would:carry
over' the field stop by step; and show, -.
hitu; mingled with the .wheat, cockle, rye
and eheatoand when he had shown tiro all
tlectoTtts foreign to the wheat, that "Ma'.
victual would, then, like the farmer, knOw
it was not a good field of wheat. The tests
Tor arsenic tire Reinsch!ti test, Mafsh's test; .
and its modificatious ; the reduction test
(the reduction and production of a mirror
in a tube--,teget. the metal is the object by
this test,) and the produring of the sulph
ide of arsenic, and the liquid test, including
the . octoliedral ot - eight-sided crystals. .
Theso•rnay be refined upon, the, successive
steps gone over and over again, so as to
add confirmation ,to the previous results.
That "used by Dr. Rand was not legiti
mately Marsh's test. -- This test depends
upon the fact- that when either Metallic
arsenic or any of the compounds is brought
in contact with water, pure metallic zinc„
and oil-ef vitriol a gas is -formed-,---Tliat—
gas contains the arsenic along' with the
hydrogen—Soother gas which was con
tained in the water, Billed amputated
hydrogen gas. Now 'that gas ie made to
issue through a , 111111 "Ones tube drawn to
it fine opening, which has been connected
by a cork to a gl iss and as it escapes
. .s et-tire to. If
~on— l ct ah
tiers el hydrogon will burn tip
and turn to water, end the arsenie that
was there will burn up and turn to the
white arsenie,or ratsbane. But if now you
hold a wh.th elitist- saucer, making the
flatne strike ‘in the saucer ; the cold saucer
will so cool down the eirsenit: ns to prevent
its burning, and to make it deposit as a •
bright metallic 'mirror on the saucer.
This should ba subsequently so treated as
ip,exclude antimony and other metals.
Q dation by Mr' Grahain.
Were the proe . esses used by Dr. Rand
for estimating the quantity of arsenic those
generally adopted by chemists? A.—They
are not. I understood Dr. Rand to state
that he had treated the stomach first with
hydrochloric acid ior some days in a cov
ered vessel, and afterwards with hydro
chloric acid and .chlorate of potassa, and
after digesting for a time. with heat until
rill the organio'inaterial had been:broken
up and the chlorine expelled, he transmit
ted through the liquid for several days
sulphureted hydrogen gas with a view to.
throw down or precipitate any arsenio and
other metals that would fall He gathered
this precipitate and treated it with weak
ammoniit. which wag intended to dissolve
the sulphide of.arsenic and leave any other
metals undissolved. He then evaporated
,this solution of sulphide of arsenic, dim"- -
solved.ikammonia to dryness, in a pre
w,elkhod glass beaker. Ho then
weighed this-dried product, and estimated.
the whole of it as sulphide of arsenic. He
should have secured the purity of that sul
phide of arsenic - before - weighing. The
process, as far as it was carried by him,
would give a result that might have con
tained organic matter, besides the sulphide
of arsimio. Therefore, it should hiive
either been treated with nitric acid, first
and nitrate or carbonate of soda ; or by
means of nitrate of soda directly by calci
nation. This process ,destroys all organic
matter, and leaves the arsenic in a condi
tion ready to be precipitated as pure sill,
plikle of arsenic, and thus to be weighed
and estimated. According to the process
of Dr." Rand, there would have been a pre
cipitate obtained hadthere been no arsenic
present. This precipitate would _have
been sufficiently of the color of sul
phide of arsenic as to render
it unsafe for the chemist to have pro
nounced it arsenic ' • it might have been
organic matter ; the longer the gab
would be passed thr , mgh the liquid, the
more organic matter would have been
precipitated ; a larger or smaller amount
of organic matter must have boon pre
cipitated by the process deed ; if arsenic
had boon present, half, three-fourths
any amount proportionately of organic
Matter might have, bean present ; there
is no limit.
Q. Assuming that arsenic waspresent,
was there anything in'Dr. Rand's analy
sis
tO indicate the quantity present? •
L. No, you could not determine
the- absolute quantity since steps were
not taken to remove organic matter.
Q. Will a very minute quantityof
sonic in using Reirich's, test • make a do
posit on a considerable surface of copper P
A. A very minute qoaut)ty of arsenlo
- will cover a vary considerable surface of
copper relative to the quantity of arsenic,
just as a small quantity of lime will'
cover a considerable surface of wall; a.
small quantity thus deposited upon cop.,
per, will,. When heated in a test tube,
yield (paw a number of crystals;
the
estimate of quantity indidated by Tay
lor, -is from one-three. thoushandth to
one-two thousandth of a grain of am
nia which would give considerable mun
tier of crystals; the sulphuretod hydro
gen ought to have been tested, as it
might have carried arsenic over, because
the metallic iron ancl,sulphur which are
448 . yd in making what is called eulphuret
oßnon from which sulphureted hydrogen
'a, to be prepared, sometimes contain
ariionio•• therefore when' snlphureted
hydrogen comes from this sulphuret of
iron which may contain arsenic, by
taking the hydrogen from the. water, •
may itself contain arsonio.
,Q. Dr. Rand stated that his kuourna
to quantity of arsonio in liver, -was
obtained by coating copper foil by . the
suspected fluid ; is it - possible in this way
to guess the amount of arsenic, in liver?
A. It is not ;It is not possible to toll
thickness of deposit on copper, any more
than to toll thickness of white wash or
paint on wall ; spots feund in filter by
Dr. Rand might have , been fat and
alhnmen ; arsenic is either paised from
stomach in vomiting, by purging, or is
absorbed into the systemvor it may be
all three. By absorption ; I mean whoa.
a substance introduced into-the etomaoh
is either in dissolved state already, or
dissolved there, and then taken up by
.absorbents of stomach, and conveyed
• into the bitiodvesselei that is absorption
proper; it is 'carried 'to the Various
organs and structures.' of , the" body and
may he lodged in them ; arsenic is by no
means the only metal. absorbed ; anti
mony taken as tartaremetio, quicksilver,
copper, lead, silver, in fact, it would be*
difficult to say what metal isn't taken
Q, Is arsenic rOtainedie stomach for
any length of time? . . -
.I should' say it le.retained in.
-systolic under some circumstances , fork
hours, Iforaetimea for days, .and, Seme
times for weeks.
Q; If arsenic be taken" medicinally ie .
it apt to remain in' the , system for a
longer time than if talnfia in one or. two
,poierinous
A. It would remain longer irr-the
system for the teasels ' that" it has • time
when taken medicinally to penetrate and
spread out through the „entire system,.
. while in violent,, poisonous doses, it may .
be thrown off entirely and not a trace re.
main ;' the quantity found after' death is
uot'always the barrio even , if the dose be
tho same ; it does not always require the,
same dose of arstmicao poison, but varies ,
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