I \ • wEAKLEY,I J. U. WALLACE f THE KIEHL MURDER TRIAL Continied frorii last Week. DR. THOMAS STEWART, sworn t 'resith( in. Carlisle, nave practiced medicine 21 years. I heard the hypo thetical case, and from my opinion, death ensued from acute inflammation of Alia stomach and bowels, out of view the chemical analysis, in view of one prominent tiling and by two secondary causes. ,At the time of eating the pie'and sausage and the cream cake, and running around; and afterwards taking powders, wore enough .to incite 'the inflammation without any other cause, but in connection with the find ing of arsenic by the chemical analysis, the amount of arsenic so found, was Also saficient _to -create inflammation— In flammation caused by one- dr illi 'of these, the arsenic, stands prominent. Either.of the causes by which inflamma tion Was caused, world produce death. Symptoms prominent, aro pains in the stomach and bowels, extending unto the throat, thirst with some prostraadn and some purging I had a case of arsenical poisoning in a child, about 14 years ago, but don't remember other than that, the symptoms of burning were promi 7 nent. Dn. W. W:l , TEvis, re-called. I was ono of the attending physicians ; heard the hypnthetical ; I think sho died from gastro enteritiS, induced by arsenical poisoning. Same question as ached before, ex ceptionS taken ,by4lefence as before, ex ceptions noted. .'• A. It would confirm the opinion that I hav,V already expressed that she died from acute gastro enteritis, induce by ar senic. . . Same question as asked before by Mr. ---- Shearer. A. My opinion would not be changed ; never had a case of arsenical poisoning ; I have read of a case in which all the symptoms as detailed were absent ; can not, recollect any particular case ; arsenic sometimes effects the stomach and some dines the bowels ; would nut pronounce iv Lk, be a ease,--of--a-rseniLd_ ' onin r floor the symptoms above, not alone from post, mOrtern ON.arninrthon ; from the symptoms and post inorteip a case of poisoning. DR, W. H. Cool:, aftirmed. . I reside in Carlisle ; am a physician ; have heard the hypothetical case' read ; from the _history as detailed in the by ()thesis taken in connection with find ing of arsenic, I would say arsenic was the prominent cause of death. Cross examined. There is nothing,that would give us all these evidences • gastro enteritis might produce death ; I have seen no cause to think that death was produced,. by any other means; gastro enteritis produced by a disordered stomach, tends to recover ; I would not. consider a stom ach that would take' in such food in the Horning, liable to gash.° enteral., from that Muse ; I have, had slight cases of gastro enteritis ; it does not follow that, because it was such that it was poison ; there are not many cases of violent gas tro enteritis produced by indigestible food ; I can conceive it might be brought about by cold water on a ivarm stomach ; sausage, cream cake, Lt..c., -could not produce it iii my opinion ; the symptoms -alone would a I'OUNO, my suspicions; only antimony would produce such symptoms besides arikfnic. Mns. HOFFMAN, re-called. In the afternoon of Sunday, May 7, Mrs K iOlll ceme to our house ; left our place between 5 and 6 o'clock. On that afternoon she said she was well, and that She thought she would not take any more medicine; she thought she would be well enough without taking any more modieinn. Cross examined by 11r. Miller. She said she thought she would do her washidg nn Monday. Mns. ELIZA CIMP, sworn. - 'I wa, there before Mrs. Kiehl's death; I was standing beside her bed ; William Dotter was there too; this was a few hours befor• she died ; she asked me who was tending to her; I Mid her I was ; William Doner was standing at her head,• and she asked me who is this standing here ; I told 11cr it was her brother ; she said he is to be married ~, soon ; I told her he was married ' • then she said you marry him ; I told her I would ; she asked um again and I gave her the same reply . ; then Mi Kiehl was standing at her bed, and she . 'Aid " Oh ! John, chase out the cat or Cass," I don't , now which ; there, were no cats there. Dtt: IV. W. DALE, BWOr n. It is my Opillioll, from the ease read, that the cause of death was arsenical poison. Crum examined by Mr. {Hypothetical ease read to witness-1 Ir the post mortem appearances were presented to me Menu I would regal' it case of "arsenical poison ; if the symp toms were presented alone I would re gard it the same ; the'llnding of the ar senic would but confirm it; in poisoning by antimony I w euld expect to find g. a tier immediate Prustratiom greater relaxa tion of t h e system, grei.ter secretion of all the glands especially the urinary, the matter from the bowels more watery ; whilst in arsenic, in the case given here, the ei:ine was scanty, whilst you might have pain iu the throat and stomach from any poison or acrid sub stance takee•into the stomach it would not extend so far front the stomach to the chin or so intense in degree ; that, with the constriction of the throat, would always lead me to look for arsenic . ; 1 have had one ease ref arsenical poison, find have seen - ) - 1 a nriiiilier of cases of poi Son, not by arso n ; i have not seen fatal eases, thats avciueLy ciiteessiVe Closes; my opinion of . antimony is given. by my experience personally; antimony. and arsenic pro duce much similar symptoms ' the only difierenee is in intensity of degree and character ; the post mortem, if a per sou who would the Or any other disease than by arsenic, 9 days after I would expect to find more decoMposition—the arsenic having -a preserative• effect; have made post mortem exinin Mai i Otis, and when I find in'this case .a anima state of affairs from that found in other 'ease, I am load tp believe that arsenic was there. I have seen bodies in a bet ter state of preservation a hing,er time afterwards, where no arsenic was •-pres ent ; I have seen theni in a good state. in .-•••' other Ponisons of the - year, and on the' other hand Whore decomposition was • inore•rapid ;in this case the distinction is that the stomach was better preserved than the rest of the body, decomposition having commoner d about the neck,.and at that season of the year I would hake ex : Noted morn OfTernilVl3 gases; the symptoms described in the hypothotical case, In My opinion, taken as a whole,are -pecu liarly, absolutely, and -entirey confined to, arsenical poison ; 'I don't think that the 'salts of alkali would produce the symptoms in the hypothetical case with , mit others to distinguish 'Won ; I don't - think the alkali would proilitee the symptoms laid doWn in the hypothet ical case ; I have no experience In dile ride of barium ; iodine would not pro duce the symptoms ; corrosive sublimate would not produce the coinbination of symptoms, accordinglo my extiOrience ; I think coppiw would not liroduce those symphims; I don't know of any multi'. blo substances that would prodime these symptoms ; I 'don't know whether °solid° acid would produce these symp `. toms;, I know of nothing that Will pro: this combination Of symptoms 1,171 ex-,. °opt 10file j - have - known - Of nothing, else that would produce nein ; a num , bee of other substances were mentioned to the witness Who afilrmedthat they would not produce the same - combination 'of symptoms ; there,are certain symptom& Pt hid]. attend cases of Couto gastr nritis, -and from this case I WM- tho 4mptoms indicate arsenic. • )it. 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I have no 'professional experience of death from arsenic ; Miss Kline was a patient of mine; she died in my opin ion of enema`; I gave her arsenic; gave it to her in -.Fowler's solution ; I gave her ono (mike in m bottle ; don't know how much she took ;,I did not at tend Miss Kinn, When she died ; I gave her the Fowler's solution months before she died ; f saw her at my office after slttl took- this nrseniol 1 gave her this solution on the tirAt day of. February, 1870,; she died months after-a suppose about six mouths after; it was 30 days idler I gave her the solution that she came back ; I Ime no reason to believe she died_ !if arsenic;, in her last illness Dr. Leffiver attendc‘ thi'reason I know she died of enema I was giving her iron to produce blood ; I saw her the last time about three months before her death- Dn. J. S. BENDER, sworn. I am a practicing physician about 8 years ; [ have heard the hypothetical case, from all the sy.mptomsiri connection with the fact that arsenic was found in the stomach and liver, leads me to be lieve that the death was caused by ar senic. Gros.9 examined. I only art ve at the conclusion 'that death was ti.e result of arseuie, by tak ing all the symptoms to,gether. an. A. J. IlmnitAN, affirmed. I am a practicing physician, have heard the hypothetical case reed ; my opiuion is, from the case stated, that death was caused by arsenic. • Cross examined by Mr. Miller.. Leaving out the chemical analysis "I think I would say from the post morteni syrup - Colas — that —death came from arsenic ; the constriction in the; throat is a prominent reason ; the post mortem appearances of red streaks of 6 or 7 inches long are strong, evidences of arsenic ; would not know what they would be caused from except from arsenic ; I speak from my own ex erience, and books also ; I have never seen t lose re a reukTitrrmy - otherease --- , I never saw them in a case of arsenic ; have had two cases of arsenical poison ing ; 1 did not make the post mortem examination • most all the authors make the marked distinctions spoken of by me; the two cases of arsenical poison i had were' fidal ; they occurred in the early part of my 'pract*ree ; the symptoms, as 1 rememper, in the fast case wets great thirst—wanted to drink more water than site could, and would vomit. Josimi 11. nAVERSTICK, sworn. 1 am a druggist in Carlisle . ; when persuus come to our store for rat poison We generally sell arsenic. . . Crass examined. We always label the' package, and sinetalm Schmppe caso Diu Kaye kept register. MARY DONER, re-called. - At Kield's table my sister, Mrs. Kiehl, often cat sausage and pi 4, and it never made her Cross examined. I was at my !sister's six tithes after they moved to Shippensburg ; I went to my sister's the 15th of March and re turned the 9th of April ; my sister was taking medicine then fioni Dr. Zitzor ; I don't remember th• kind ; I never heard her saying much about pain in her heart ; sums days she did not •reel so weak and some days she did ; she often had a headache ; sumetithes ■he was weak at the heart. Miss ANN DUNEN re-culled for 6roBB examination,. I was with my sister when she came to sco Dr. Bixler ; after we left the office my sister took her . , finger and tasted the medicine, and she said it did not tante like the medicine Dr. Zitzer gave her, anti she was going back, and when shs k mint back tie said he would put 'some t hung in to make it taste butter; I don't know when she commenced taking that medicine. Mrts. IlorrmAN re-called for cross tX11,771- 1 don't know that Min. KielfCmajd vim] mhe was over on Sunday that she had headache, and was going home a little early ; I never told Mr. Myers so. , Commonwealth - closed. The defence was opened by James 11. Graham, jr., esq., as follows : GENTLEMIN or , Tl!e, Jta aT. - It It ft arntel.wfol and openhathm of l'rovl hae that alter tdald COllll, the dty thot alter the dark clouds alit storm follow the calm and vonvlitne.( For months the de fendant, John IC ehl, Imo heron obscurod by the hoots of eosin. ton and dottln,`nnd for tat days Ins the storm of pr Judlee and andi has rage t about him Now 1• th r ft 11111 hi norm ttelntoud, geotletnen, to alapnl those dark and nozi , no vipers by tho broad, clear tit p 0 etratlng light of truth, slot ',talent to ton J , hrt Hi, 111 nod Lie solid. In their real nod netail Too caught h .to folk d to eh erre that with a few honor/1100 exeeptiohn, ell tit- witneesee for the Commonwealth IVOr. moldier I/onto - el 4-r their near r 0141.1 1, 4, Rlllllll me of C 11 1 ,11,11.111 10.P1111.1. There ix not "tithenx to all important fact, who le free . • A "ill thin blood. persoeutt-n Inxtnnd 01 it proitocu• ion lots livoo intititot•i Why, out •r. John Dotter tel you froni 1 lin wanton iittroil, that for right .ong }mini he has not been in the hounii of JOll 11 Kiehl, mil Mari gall thin Mite hat Mini mllat ag Ifint bitter of hatred. A lather not visit lilt daughter in nil thin time? the being near to him. lion Intend° and malignant toilet be lilt heart. ere 01 11 hap, y oppori unity to open the flood gin en of lilt wrath upon no liject of hit winnity Hit daughter in taken i.tuillonl) nick ,a 1111.100100 01 poi coning ngibilot by thew her rnedl inn ntolen, box taken, and now JOllll Kiehl In dimmed Ito must ilk, nothing but hi oil whl nlako the thirst Inr vengeance 1 1 011 now dm manner 01 W 11.100 0 ,011 un tire tumid, and )ou cnnnit bill hare 1.010111,1 their Yon mint he WOll Mall Oed of two thinga to con vict In thin ea. flint, ant mall Khali die Of poinon; mind Kiehl, the ilufinicht it hilly ailnoninter it knowing It to potion 1 Now, 1.1111 theory of the ttoomini woe all It, tint toe 010,100 1.11.11. 1111111004 K.lllll to th. , porplitrati. of -the n critne _wan ,hie love for nee, enthaiine Myers. That Int w mw min.., unexplained 1.11 Hi oxiiialm Mom hn of a nod ion war. .with ouch an on calm—Halo. ifmlre i f •r her,. 1 xo Intent. won 111. pll,lOll, that nil olintatilon o Ito gratilleation [mint .1, rim - aired, 001 the poinonint of nit ` •111, bY lilt 111h1 rex attach I• , w almost - null unnatural 1 'Mutt ratan wvle !ill, 1 , (111101 Ilin hail been tree Mann re. pr i encli, who had al . aye before in roe all tinimpuniih. ab e character tilionti hm onto on aliniiiiiined,lol it • • 0' re in Ito twinkling of an aye, i., In tho.ltleltest &gm I inproba bro. IV n y tint .• anew, n 'tarn atretoty tont you 111" the a earrones were open, slid Yen In the 1/0111re of tilt Wife, 4111 moil,, 110 .81 com plaint and exprennell 110 dlsplossure, that story time spoken nf, Woe to daylight, and nut In tr.e lark. Duce this snow it guilty lose! Sin sill/how to you, that Sirs IC,elti would hero nn other pees,on about her k 0,410 her work ; that she went herself to !dyer& and 'plead for Kato. 41 come to her !Into ; that oho 1.1 lit no ono hirelv to (10 her work; that on o n e 00,01•011 oho plead with to ire In her eye• for elate to gn with Jobtt' I i Fratikfinal ; and that It WWI .41. 'MN instance, that 1500 WAR at 1101 Lumen so often. A totryet the only tenth, adduced by nut VotitnronweallA, is tole, and they would'hase you bang Jblrtl tticb hi, loco.° 1111 •111010.1 natural afhottloo n d love for his full ;nautili. Then,ll she did din fr nit p•lson, did her husband stlininbtt r It. Ittwig It to be potion. pronecptinn have told you a story of a boy Peeing Kiehl miw none powdor, Ina cup, and !.1 a young Indy m.fting him .Ire [no dose to his wife, and then examining the cup to ono if thero were any dreg. left. The im• pro .ability or this story In attparont, nn the fare of It it he wore misting it polsonotte dose; for Kiehl I. found by the lo,ltt the kitchen, by the window; lite boy kno,thed at rho door ; now if guilt had boon In ble heart, what would havo been WI, conduct ! Why toe et, n was near, Otero woro buckotent hand, and thti 6,n1 c 4 p. sr mid hare loom oatited from him and quickly found a biding place but dec. he do this Olt 110 I when this ki;ott tetunde, ke bide the boy. come, Tito boy enters goes to Om window, anifsits down Co Clue.. to Kiehl that he site the p tenter In the cup. Iclultl tells turn the noitileatiot is for his wife, and doliberately son-It up. Thou carries it lip Matra:and in presence sit bliss Culp, herald l• to lite wife, who drains It down. Is this•the conduct of a poloonor an of title it 1111111101,1, and reflect bow ridiculous. Can you believe anything oleo, •Illen lie woe preparing the medicine the Doctor pre scribed? 1 Lure to p traded -before you na a strong of guilt, that thn'd.fnndnnt, when lily wife was takett elok; refuted ro g for a doctor. Not a wituent' awoara that Ito rofoxed, but they . toll .you It w' nuognnted to him that he altottld to no, and that he did not at once ao. Thin in easy of 'explanation 'nano wo tell you that her attending pity/del:to had i(lottl that Ilk tattoo Manna(' woo tornrahla, and. that. ho Thal lint he alarmed ; that Otero - was no tom of tomtit g off for ttnot her doctor, t lit pimply to fol. low‘ltle dtroeti , 11 In talking the medicine. Not:ldes thio,'wo will tiltorg4ltat ICielti was willing and WO to go fur a doctor, but that Ida wllO retueod. One witnent will tot.tify that oven when Mrs. Kiehl ma - suffortniragonizing - pain, eh , wetratitildlf nut hero a doctor, and oven then oho replied: "Ott no; title doctoring around cuing too mach " Tier ehnractorbatio trait of peouriouenesi thag showing itself aro lig In her tixtr. ein • tr agate; von will ho told , that '.Ktehl.lo cause ho told two or thret pentane that his with had -heart tincone. and that people wl h this die soddenly Title; too, fa attar:it when you know that her uto • Mem told the defendant that Iva wife toot :to affected, and that she might drat) off.akenty lime. Alt I eon. 'limo.. how lilt poriocutore hart, coot AVOuttd In the Vain Ondu.ore to fa ton upon tle.lr victim soma rot- OanCo ufgollt, mid. how periersoly thorthave diet 'turfed tho moat natural el:Tr:instance& • A witness toils you that John Kiehl asked her If the Dom la were going to push this lgattust him and have hin -echo ned, and this convornati. , n • took - place on Friday b-faro hie •wife was' °penal, and it will be arguLd that thin showed ho had II connclous, noes of guilt. Novi, me will traces knowledge of the busplaloris Of" the Donors to Kiehl bet re chic time And wo will show this not only by amide, but by their actions. Why, how did they treat him? You have heard how Mrs. Donor; the mother of Mrs. 'Kiehl, rudely rebuked him et hie wife's death-bed. - You riarriiilor the story of the witness who related how, wheitZlits Kiehl called "John, John,' and he Caine, and tho strong man was bowed down with 1 grief and,ndliction, ruid loaning ovier his dying wife he " Well dank, what can de." , he, already In the Meadow of do rth, threw her cold And icy arts around him, crying i.e her love lin 1.7 •hn,ffrilen how I would like to stay longer with you." ThOn• so Ling, in hitter sorrow, he het ?her to him, when brutally this mother bade him egome and tint " Lnwlt in her face now." 116 w ffeentiftvly Is horn illostrat•d n—nr..ther's lore and tenderness.. tta will hare 'in pro f, alan,thow John Donor, when for. the, first tints In right he went to Kl hit, hpu.e, and there, When his danghter articuler otortix, threatened to 'tvrilte John Kiehl, when in the condnenn.of hi. heart he offered to a tend to Don- r'n r-o. Contrast the brutal wed offensive condnot these people at t•,a doe tlobed of their daughter with that of Joh .1 Kith!, anti then say who is boar fitted tt c , nffnit erhno,_ Why,- you have hodrd.from.overy evictions who-rialto' irs. Kiehl dont. g I,r illness, how_c natant and unremitting John antis in his at. mirth - Cos Ito give her to drink, ho molnlerh-1 her pert parched 'fps, he reeved her le bed, imiLlio it was that only could fan. her.: Ity every action ho showed his deep attachment nod his deep distress In his Dr. Rand narrate. that ho found n Tory small quantity of arsenic in a small wooden Nut stf•mit ted to alit for examionam Too history of that box le this; Mrs. Donor stolo it irom. Al. hi's .np b ,ord, rho gave tt to her husband, who took It home a ...I placed it in an open and Unlocked cupboard .hare notion. were kept. Hero it yen' d ed for about ten days and dun, g this time six Done'. and Gerd k owe how many other. besides, Inv died it• The.. Mr Elodlor gets it; ho puts it leoseJc_in n drawer among sono inipers•, Then Maglaughlin keeps it a time, then Sadler gets it hxdtm, rind tinally Prof 'Rand. Consider,th.t title box woo for ton day ' s in the hands of John Kiehili,rnoei It allg mint enomiee, arid you will know what Importance to attach to the box. Maiden we will show you_ that the analysis mode by Prof. Rend le nnsatiefac tory and incoriclu•ive. All au homilies and expert ay that It is unsafe to rely on ono test alone, but that coroborati,e must be used, arid that the only obroliito Imhof of the presence of erroult" Is Its re itimion to the metallic state. Prof. Bond used only 11-lurch's tent., This test consists in the h Ming copper In the suspected gold with mutlatic until the copper is o.atod with a greyish film; then -hosting tho ..opperin a tont tube and, obt,dtili.g_ o tahouriti crystal+. There are oily. or ton other substoncoe.to aides arsenic that will glean deposit on copper, and about he same number that nil give eight sided cryetals. Ilene° the ono', ele mint Imo discard, d. I rant holiovn Prof. Rand would 11.ro mind, rod the btox,lllill he known'lte Not a court m , rjury in Christendom would ounrict In o.—poisoning mmee, - mf too organs exatnined woe • hawkodwround amour the p. Jammers blitorend one, inks in the manner the box bus been handled. The quautim y found on analysis in extremely 'Mail. for -drio---r-yellilir-arddfww-Oudd_wo know rim t thouraidith ern grain of anionic Will 0,0 tlf.y din tr. ct clystale. The quantity here is tilmoßt. Inliai shoal, and y. n can't convict on this, nor ueo It to a link. The braiik ink powder story killed Itself In its Incept on, No such monstrosity could live. tie c •free woman litunetbateiy v wilt, and bare a bitter Cristo In her mouth for two d iya tbereafter, when a cat that into broad soaked in the smite rotten, 1.1550 amoral lively , ns ever, and enjoys Its evening Tiny undbtorbed. Thin story W. and We I Innen. Litton,' in itn do ant. I k powders are horrid° 8 f while bbo,oinatc of posssh hs p0i..., tin logwood In Its anti& to, and of these two the p..,w• tiers aro ma,le. . Did re Kiehl die of poison at all? We may judge of this l.y three elements, viz: trio ny ptot., pogt, m rloni appearonces, Enid ebeinle .1 analyels tV.. will soma) you Imo the Rya, tin. are not peculiar to erectile:it poison mg, nor is there any. tot g In th • post no,:. tom t • indicate Ile prurience This th Colornetiw,Ailth mnat a trill!. The eyinp lotus loot Hind WO Will show may belong to many I rites poisons, anti nine netural din an n. 'rile Yost inorteM will he shown to be (Allay in thA en come, In omit ing to examine minutely, and in actuallyslighting the , rg . wit eh her attending physician alleged were disertsed. With nut one brilliant exception, ell the roper v rot the Common wealth brim their opinion of arsenical poisoning the Uniting of n tr. laic by the • hemieni non yew on . romorr this, prim, end their etrii. lure falls We prep.,. to sh ov you how them gentlemen ham Leon holding on LE very lin•table forme:Mon for the presence of arsenic in her body, if an; any, found, sill Ito run 11, explained whin wo prove to your satisfaction, an we wul, that for Montlin previous to her deatli`, rho had been under a coureo of arsenical treatment, n d that ap to a vho•t time be •re her she lied received from her pliyolCian eitcloen gra'ha of arsenic. But.we iwep . t.a op here, we wit g • further and demon 'trate hint the qua,- wive analysis of I rot. Rand Is unreliable. and him method a strange v whiten Ir in Ire .siu ram I Lid &Ai n by the beet nu her nod most sir Iled "expert.. We will call labors you, potter.. who hare made chemistry their study And profession, whom expert once has boon large and varied, and wh• nc repoia. lion, are es ablieheil fly ench ne tlieeh, it will ho liable dear to yon ilin 'it is Itlgr•l_v improbable whether 'rob Rand obt•lned rine.half a grate of aleent.' in the •mire b-dy. finerulatry in iii' most oxnct bolermo, when JILL , a opeuitlonn and details of alialy.lX aro carefully .attended to by eldlled hands, but unit or sing! , cv the slightest detail, and the maim manly/Us in worthlens. Gentiom•e, to yon the tutu of John Riehl ban been committed. CO alder well whet you hoer toned nut what we all offer. Bear In mind h., pre•lons ,no I eh rooter; hi- nffection for bin wife the feet that he and Katharine Ui on tiro c med., and that Mrs. Kiel] wit- the cense of h•r f einent vlsIt•; the enolinatioi nof tie ioincloct before and during him wife'm alclinenn, him natuiel rind ineore•it manner; the utic••rtalnly no to the litvintit,of am, air f end:lrani wan found at nil ; the explannileo of Inn preeenee ; lintio.tanee t•i ',nett/Wiled to the bon, Laiiviu-a of its being eel long In bin er d. mlen h indn, nod becnone or the ntiquhr gentility ef armenic alleged to have been ranid; the Inntifil• it'll,: Of the testa used; the faulty poet ru,rtom M. towel - tall; chemical ennly.is Theo don t for get how bitter a..d oaten, flog have been his ens mien; how artfully they wooal hnee you construe hn MOH untoral, actions Into ovida•c•n of guilt; kee,lng hnao things all before you, I fent ante in xttylnu, that you wilt render such n verdict tent 1,0 go linos of con CitalCP. no - ruin r• prole will terhm 3011 when order prieon wads eltsll .1 eon yonr eyes but Mate ,d, a heppv consclousnese of n duty performed In dellyerlog en Innotent end persecute I ma. from the hand- of hi. enoruire. DR. W. W. NEYIN,, called by defence. I did not have any experience such as reported in the evidence of Miss Mary Isioalrer, made by Mrs. Kiehl, "No, John you nuthe me take a powder on Monday evening." I was, I think near enough to hear, if any pinch was made ; I remember Mr. Sadler turd Maglaughlin oalling at my office on Monday after the post ,mortem examination was made; I re member the fact of her having takerf the powder, but not that she said John made her take iv ; I took notes of the case and do not remember that I told you I heard Mr— Kiehl make the remark ; there is rnothing of it in my notes ; it may have occurred ; I have no recollection of it. WALTMCK, re-called by defence. What brought pie here first was: I met Snydei in.the Sheriff's office ; came between I and 3 o'clock ; left the Sheriff's office and was gone about half an hour ; 'was introduced to Snyder by my father; understood him to say lie was Mr. Kiehl's brother ; acknowledad assent; don't remember what conversation passed between us' , ...tban ; 1 walked out around corner of j.iifThlitc.,,Snyder fol lowed me; we were talking there about Mr. Kiehl; our conversation turned 'on spiritual matters ; said you shunt(' know more about Kiehl than do, be cause I have not been acquainted with him long, he in your brother; he said he is not exactly my brother, but my step brother ; vie still talked on alniut Mr. Kiehl; Mr. Snyder said he had been' a very wild young man in 'his time, but that he had reformed mid was doing bettor, and that he desired tulalk to Mr. Kiehl, relative to the salvation of his solil; he said Kiehl was a bad man, that ho would steal; lie and he would 'cleat ; ho said ho had a bad character where he Came from; after standing there mime time•we separated ; Mr. Snyder got on the horse he Came to town on and..my father and I going together ; on the way hoine,ho repeated his , worde chant lying, etealing and ,cheating to me; he told me the first' time at thee jail and' next on the way home. • •• • ()roan exarnin,e4. I don't remember the confortiation any further than , I have already de tailed ; I did not nay that Kiehl-able the bridle. , - jAME,II FOREMAN, MO;r/S. . Mrt Snyder came to the jail and told me he wan Kiehl's brother, before I.loft him into the jail ; he rectified it in a minute by saying he was his stop-brother ;., this was before Mr: Kiehl -came , to jail ; ho came in tuidltalcod toe whether John Kiehl had caine, lio.,aai t he heard ho was arrested, and ho Wan analens to see 'him ; I told him ho hati not' come yet; and if he was there lie might not get to •see'llini, that it was not proper that any ono should see him; mid particularly. on. Sunday ; ho said be had not Seen him for'someltinte ;'he said then ho' was his brother, and ho would like *cry 'much to see' im t,,010' him then, ,when he would come ha could get - to - see him ; believe that, was about all, 41 &flit - "iii. -- forr - fsreetited. John Kiehl spoke to roe about the bri dlo before ho took it. . _- B. K. 'cloopYmn, re-raile d . - After T brought- Mr. • Kiehl into'. the . prison I *ad in the taco' and Sheriff Foreman introduced Snyder to mo nettle stop-brothor:of Mr: Kiehl; Mr. Snyder made no objecitionslif . the introduction. JAmns .K. Fonameri, re•ealled. • " . I heard ~Frederick Montsor's . 'teitk CARLISLE,' , P:ENN'A.,' THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7,187 L inouy ;. the day Stormier wa's in jail lie was-under the influence 'of liquor. ' ES A htunt — BRTILLY, If worn, Lremember lkientzt.r being in, jail ; ile was pretty well intoxicated,that day; shut the door whore I was,bdoautie I did not want to talk to he talked pretty Ipud ; ho was 'talking to some girls there ; ' I don't thinkte knew.much about what ho was talking ; I saw him talking to ,Kiehl in the coil luid been in "jail about two months for separation from my wife; Snyder' told'our that he was Kiehl's brother. ,FRANIC. lloovan, Nissen. • • - I • was working at tho lime kiln; ;Jelin noffman was there f I was down in tile lime kiln with. Kiehl; I asked • Kiehl whether ho• Was married, he said ho was not; we were joking together I then askednoffman, and ho said ho wasmin, then we talked, and I asked Kiehl how many children ho had, andhe said none; then I said,..Tohn-/ thought you. was not married, thou he said yes I am married; -then ho said yes, I am married, 'hut I have no children ; he did not say iu that conversation he was married but, had no woman. ' • .Cross ezanuned. • In a joking way lie told me he was not martinet ; I have not been instructed what to say. - Mans Hocu, sworn, was prespnt when Miss 'Hoffman was on the stand, and I saw the motions her mother 'Made to '1161., and Lam not able to tell exactly ,what the motions in dicated. 3 told Mrs': Hoffman she would get intda terabit) scrape by tie.. DAVID WALTRICk t releatled. Simon Snyder told me ho was Tiehl's step-brother the Sunday ho came to the jail. .Court adjourned until 9 o'clock a. m. Thursday, Nov. 23. Thursday Court met at 9 o'clock. HENRY WALTRICE, re-eallod. Mr-Snyder iaid to me twice .at_the jail that he was Kiehl's brother, once in the jail and once outside. • FRANK Hoovnn, re-edlled. - I hail a conversation with John Hoff man on the tivolfth day of April, he said to me, John 'Kiehl is going to raise a fuss about t,lit which wan talked at the lime kiln, then he tokbme to stick to him and notbot-K-Iblil-get-abetad-of_him ; I told_ him I would tell the truth all the tithe; ho said that Kiehl sa id he was going to find it outright; I then said Kiehl will, hardly make a fuse shout - that, for you know how he said it; I didn't think Kiehl would take a false oath ; Jolla - Hoffman thou mentioned a man that did take a falite oath and said be could take one too. Cross examined. , . John Iloover is mr.father, and lives Miles of Kiehl's father; I have never been in house; I am living now with Joe Myms...;, I don't ...know how_it was, Hoffm.ln Pik told me Kiehl was going to make a fuss about the talk at the limo kiln. WILSON WALTRICK. SIO/rl6. I know Hoffman, he and I talked to gether, and I said I.think John Kiehl would let OA!) and he, (Hoffman.) said before ho (Kiehl) would get 'clear lie would take a false oath. Cross examined by Unnimonwalth. I am not related to Myern, and I was at Smith's barn when we talked. Mr. Smith was there but I dhnit think ho heard the conversation. It was about a mile from Hoffman's. I think maybe lam a relative of Myers. Uncle David is married to a Myers—Barbitra Myers. I know cousin Dave. , I came to court on Monday, week. Stopped •at Mr. Shearer's hotline. Hid no whisky that day,. Didn't offer John Ilbffman any. Didn't drink any that day. Thin con versation- was after the August Cturt. Don't know,witat month. I. was hired at Hosea Myers.- •I didn't tell anybody Mr. Bitilth heard conversation with Hoffman. Didn't tell any one I was making a good thing of it at this:conrt as I- remember. In chi/. _ •-• I havn't been paid anything yet.' i .got $l.Ol to go home - --car fare. LEVI Savnitn, sworn. I had a conversath , n with Simon Sny der. Ile came to my house on-Sunday— after-be came home from Carlisle. He said Mr. Kiehl was brought to Carlyle in in evening. He told me helves in and aw him, that ho -had a cunt/creation with Kiehl, and he told him that ho had bought poison, I dint certain whether he said for rate or mice. He said ho ques tioned him hard, and, ho said that ho said ho had bought poison for his wife. He said ,ho could prove this if these other men wouldn't gn back on him; and he told me that Myers was along with him. I told him he should he quiet about this, and let the men who were along with him make it known. Then litistaLted to church. On Monday morn ing I went past where he worked. He came dut and told the not to say any, thing further about it. He said' the sheriff "as there. Crate examined. I am related to Kiehl ; heir' my cousin; so is Simon Snyder. JACOB FAIR, affirnbeld. Simon Snyder came to' my haus() on Sabbath, day; I asked him if he had, been to See Kiehl; I .asked him if it was true that Kiehl had told hint so and so; ho said he asked Kielil what he was do leg hero ; Kiehl answered that tboy.put him there for poisoning his wife; that ho then asked, did you poison her? that Kiehl said I 'bought rat poison ; that then ho said no sir, John, you bought poison to poison your wife, didn't you ? and John Kiehl said yea ; I asked if there was anybody present when he told him that ; he said there was ; T asked him who ; be .said Waltriek and the slibritt WILLI/at ADAMS, 'Sworn . . I livo in Went; Pennsborough town- Ship; Mr. Snytler lived on my farm Ist of April, 1869 ; .Tohn Kiehl • maul living on my farm in April, 1868 ; Mr. Snytlet'n faintly and Eiehl nem not, on good term ; 1 frequently hoard such rontarks an "there comes the thief and liar" from Snyder's children. Croan'examinell. • Kiehl didn't Mani ,orn ; Simon Snyder did not ; I think ny sort has been riding tho county to find rcstiinony for iiichl ; my son in reading Itw with Air. Now sham t 1 never detector! Sirrioe Flny.lor stealing coyn. • „ In Mint John Kiehi's character as n worthy, well behaved citizen was as good as any man's in the county. • • Ureic, examined. • • _ I have lived 12 or 13 miles from Mield's the last year Rod ri-half ; I have heard rumors an to hie eli,racter in the neh.th boyhood in which he lives, since his ar rest; I heard first minim. 8 or 4 days after his arrest; I have heard rumors, of his intimacy with Kate ; heard this after his arrest. r • Dn. D. CORN 9fAtc, oifirsited, • • I was doing business as 'druggist in Cerbrle ; commenced three years ago last August; I left. Carlisle on 20th May last ; I never phi the defend:int any poison. ••, Cross examined. • • ' I was practicing medicine at the Homo time ancLwas,frequontly absent from my store ; my eon and a young man by the name of Corbot adonded the atom in my alumna°. • In. chief. ) My eon is in Pittiburg ; can't possible be hero ; kimt a boOlc in whidt entries wore made of all poison Bold-; dont know that Kiehl ever was in mystore ; hlosars. Maglaughlin and, Sadler onmutp mystoro to coo whether wo had Sold him poison ; 'they loolced 'over register.' I..ACCUI COttnrifT;:SUlOrn. — . ,• •-• wad with ,Dr.,,Cornman from ;tenth Pugust, 1848; nntil2o May; 1871 ; I novor Sold defendant poison ;" Mr. Maglauglilin got Met& gti-into' the jail I told Mr. Maglaudhlin inT the jail. that I. had never. gold, My,. Kiel! Arty . poieoP. \ • , Grrooommin,ed,, • •,. . While ,•1* was' from store Dr. ion"Johrt,,nee there; he is 17 or is plus old. • • : • • 'in John .Coinman vent into jail with me; he told Mr. Maglimekiln he didn't eell Kiehl :any poison. JonaFLEMING, • I reside in Shippeosburg ;. I am a drug gist ; first went into store m December, 1864 ;; I have been there - eier since ;'.I never sold dcfondent.poison ; don't know that any was sold-in our store to him.' E. CoRNMAIP, 'suers. I am It 'druggist; doing business in Carlisle ; have been engaged in the busi ness for 5 years. Never Sold poison to defendant. Cross examined. Dr. Worthington is also, in tho store. ; Thonias Wilsmr somotimes nttdnils for a short time. J. B. IlnvcnsTtcrc, retailed. I - am a - druggist - in Carlisle ; hay° never sold imy poison to John Kiehl, the defendant. • Cro,AB qatoftted. . _ . . . : f I liavo, kept a rittlitotloir the last_ 2' or 3 years I have" sold poison to a great many persons in tile last six r months ; think I could toll six months after whom I sold poisdn to ; I have a boy tending' my store by the name of Charles'Fran ciscus there is something about Kiehl by which I could distinguish him ; I generally look. pretty closely at the per son to whom I sell poison ;. I novor sell , poison to any person I don't know. W. F. HORN, reealled. I am' a druggist in .Carlisle ; do not iecognizo the defendant as a purchaser at my store ; keep a register ; his name is not upon it. arose examined. Would to Kay , ho was in my store and I not recognize him ;look very closely at every Rerson *iio comes to . buy poison ; can recognize a man by his forehead and upper part of his face. DR. CHARLES WORTHINGTON, sworn. I am a druggist in Carlible. Have been for between four or five years. Never sold any poison to- John Kiehl.- Keep a register. Never say: , his name upon it. JOHN SIPS, Moon/. Jam in Mr. S. A. Haverstick's. Been there, last two years. Never sold ally poison to John Kiehl. Orms examined: Never kept a register in our store be- OYU Is 11a . as no ( own, a jail to see him. tie may bm , p been there for poison and I not ..iernber hiM. May have gotton it and may not. Don't remember having seen him in my life. CHARLES FRANCISCUS, swarm. lam in Mr. J.• B. Haverstiek's store. Never sold tile defendant any poison. Crtias cramOkiliOn. That is Mr. Ilaverstielt's•register of persons who buy poison from him. A lartte number persons come thorn to buy poistitia. --Think could remember every person who bought I'roM the the last a months. Sometimes mark it down ono day after sold. ROBERT EOE, sworn. I am sometimealiildr. JdielPh haver stick's store; nevor'sold any poison. DR J. J. ZITZILR, BiToria I have practiced medicine about 25 years ; now practice in Carlisle ; have done so for 14 years ; I knew Mrs. Sarah Kiehl ; know her about ID years ;.1 was physician to her father's family before she was mariied ; In the latter part of January, 071, Mrs. Kiehl came to my office alone ; she told me she wan_ ailing a lortiptimo, that 'she had tried . a good many thingsand'they didn't do her any godd ; she told me what was tlio matter with her; rshe complained of painful menstruation ; vomited•about the time ; felt bad; weak; couldn't eat; said menstru ation was insufficient bl ides that she complained of palpitation ef, heart •, I then requested her to remove iffieOlothes to gi v'e me a chance to First,'l examined thb heart, .ffitunt an In sufficiency in the tri-cuspid valve;' I then examined the lower part of the abdomen, in reference to the pain she ornidained or ; the liver, glands and generally all the other organs, and made an examina tion in region of the ovary tube ;, found an enlargement. of :Thor or five inches in length and two' inches thick ; it appeared to be uneven and sensitive, from which I thought all • symptoms wore caused by obstruction in that falloptaffilffilie. It would be difficult to .say whether it was cancerous or ovarian dropsy. I took the test of the symp toms in the digest, and it didn't alto gether satisfy inc whether it was can cerons. Then I prescribed a slight ammoniacal- medicine that has a tend ency to stimulate .the organs. I mean the sexual organs besides. I gars her a preparation of a narcotic, to be given at the time when she got the . symptoms, during menstruation, and directed it as soon as the Limo would be over, either to come back or send word. She came back with Mr. Kiehl. I think in be-, .ginning of. February. Then 1 - made a close examination in reference to that enlargement, of fallopian tube. Than found it very sensitive, and symptmns of inflanmiation during periods. It strikes me her periods wore in latter part of every month. Then I prescribed, directed by my diagnosis, that it was necessary to try to give that collection p. chance tOdisappear, by using something that would have a tendency to open the fallopian tube, onto absorb it. ' For that I tnado a preparation, one grain arnenicum, aud two drachms sugar of milk.. Made 24 powders, and dire&ted them to be taken' ono three times a day. Beside that I gave her a poWder ,com posed of columba; unripe oranges, and sabiina. That she used, and as I VMS Nut istled front those symp toms, that it agreed with her. const it tition ; I made her some pills, and for the deficiency in her heart I gave her I grain of arsenic, 3 grain of alkalies of hellebore, and the extract of beef gall. This was in pills. After she used it about a Heel: the ferratrine, in the pills disagreed with her, and I stopped it oft. I then prescribed a mixture, and after he 'third time or her menarnation - own- ing on she caine back again. Thenl gave 1 °untie Firkleas solutiOn, a preparation or arsenic-4 grains to ounce—and more. of the same bittern. She wan I.Wtaleo 6. .drops times a •day until about 4or Is days before the period, and then she was to increase the doso until the symp toms of changes would come on. •Then she should stop, awl if it should "be as painful as before then she wan to drop , that and ta tho poWders, and after the periods were over she should cornmence it- again. After the medicine was all she ,was to come back or lot mo know. If those spoils would come on she was to send 'down. Title ' was 'the third Hine.. This WO about the middle of 'March. During that brine the• powders and bit ters got all, and 'Mr.,litohl came down for 8011113 more. •Ho iismo about a week after the middle of Much: Then she wrotoV me, and Kishl canto down for fear -I might not get the lettor. [Lettai• of Mrs. Kiehl to. Dr. Dialer produced and road.,d - DR. .1. J. Z,Viiiß March 28, 1871 Doctor,--I intuit let you. know how/ I am.. I think. I ain not, May' baiter tow tlitiii Lwas. ,It hurts me, on iny\it :iti,t' , sii. My drops aro all. .Do y 9.4 Ilk you eitmhelpnie? ' Munn Maim. , . I go ' I his letter after Mr. Kiehl was here Mr. Kiehl was there .frequently bef o. • About the Brune 'day or prob ably the next I received anther,. letter which I conld , not fled. . These droph were sent by mail: She told mei in the , 'letter that she was Melt in her stomneh, pain in her aide, ,was vomiting, auctsiok fever,. burning in the bowels, palpitation - in the heart.- pe.felt-so :bad-01, could- not sleep. Ithinic a day or, two after; / I wards, of xt'`day, 'Mrs. ' Kiehl Came Carlyle th inorriihg 'mil told, mei about., her being o restless .' - .-Lgavo:ber a. few powders,, 'omit, ,narcotio afterwards by' the weer .. Ito canto back for medicine, and L aye him 'Medicine ,thea .again: I gave him - hitters with savin. (dare direct' tis for six- drops throe atria per tpay,..that wont ; on until thil middle of April. Be came back with Mrs. Keibl, and thea I prescribed' for her ; gave' her from that compound, oranges and mag nesia ; this would' last her till came' back again from California; all she would need to do was to, take according to, direatiens ; the vial was 2i and- 5 cninees' . ;.my directions to her were about that time, she 'should increase it 1 drop daily until some unfavorable synaptoths of .iromiting, and then if, si . 113 felt un pleasant to take 12 di'ops altogether ' • told Mr: Kiehl that she has causes which would lead to death if not arrested, oithatLfrom the disease .of' the heart, or from ovarian tumor ; ho told 'me that , he would pay me very_vv'ell if I would cure her; l told him that I would do all , I could for her ; Kiehl was at my office' very often ; waked there ; came in the morning generally before I was up ; Manifested great concern- for her' wel fare ; Mrs. Kiehl was under my arseni cal treatment from 15 -to 20 days in . February; and- in March the same, and so in Anti! ; from-the time these symp toms commenced until they stopped. she could -not/change ; that was ,the trouble; I administered , this amnia. after the period of menstruation. tit Lott;er of oaran L. Kiehl to Dr. J. J. Zltzer, April 14, submitted and read ; she told me she followed my directions in 'taking the Medicine a as she generally got very sick she used the preparation'' of powdered solution ; I gave her opium and then hydrate of chlorine ; I her, her she should net take around at every place. but should takd from me, • and _to rise the powders they would relieve her 'froth these spells; I gave her the ar senical pills once and was obliged to quit them ;, then gave her same pills, took the ferratrine from them ; a man and his family were the first cases of arsenical. poisoning I had • they looked like cases oracule arsenical poisoning cruised by apple-butter crocks. M. Line's family were- tile - first J. attended, and cured them;yia - nd—the—rest- except—one. -Mrs.- Line was sick for months and then, re covered. The rest did not suffer quite as long as Mrs. Lino. There 'are three stages. First, taking poison produces pain,. rash. on face, cramp and vomiting. The patients in these cases did not roach the second stage. Clonit adjourned until 2i• p. m. - Court met at m. Dn Zrrznn, re-called. Iu the cases I attended thorn was cramp, contraction of the muscles, vomit ing, a rash ; these patients got over their sickness I had at the same timev other cases front same cause ; in the Line case I timid the arsenic ; the Dunlap family was the last case I attended ; I lipid one case a man.by name of Jacob Mountz ; about 3 years ago; he had an affection of sciatic nerve ; it was a very trouble hi3Mo ease ; everything we tried failed ; ho could not' rest and we had-to- give him double doses of morphia, and then gave him pills, of arsenic and extract aconite and foi-ratinci; we commonewl with one pillcontaining thrp9-twontioEh'B of a graittiper, day and increased it up to 1 grain per day.; lie got sell ; I gave, him 21 powders which contained about 1 grain : they were partly used and then we changed the pills ;' about 8 or 10 pills were used 01 the 24 ; then gave him pills with - ferratine out. We gave her 24 pills containing one grain in all: I gave Mrs, Kield erne ounce of Fowler's solu tion; giving her ti drops three times a day ; this was in March ; after this was used I gave her 21 ounces Fowler's solu tion with two drachms of Hoffman's anodyne tokeep it from fermenting ; gave her same directions for second bottle ; she was to incleaselrom six drops thiee times a day a drop eabh day as long as she felt no inconvenience at her stomach; not to exceed ton or twelve drops eaoh time; Kiehl came for medicine about half a dozon times alone. ' Cross examined. The first time Mrs: Kiehl came to ape me was latter part of January. She came alone. The second time shoMame about second week in February, with Mr. Kiehl. The next, time was, I think in about one . week after. Kept- no account of it. The fourth time, was the latter part of February, or to of March. The last time I saw her'was on ApN, 18. Mr. and Mrs. Kiehl both camd,tooether. If it is not paid, I keep a my...ord .- of medicine 'T give , ," :f paid Ido not. I do not keep a book in -which I keep an account of all medicine I furnish my patients. I have mentioned ail the medicine I gave Mrs. Kiehl. They did not pay for the .medicine they got on eighteenth of April. I have that marked down. I marked all they got from mu that day. I say I have not charged in my book a powder given to Mr. Kiehl, and not Fowler's solution. I have that book with me. (Book produced.) This is only memorandum for myself. That is only record. What is written in book only expresses time, the natere of disease. Did not put, do , n medicine. I have a book in which I 'put, dotin name, medicine and disease. I did not put down the medicine I gave him that day. br. Grove was, with me - a long time. Can't tell what day in March they crime to my office. I told Mrs. Kiehl it was poison, and as soon as it began to pro duce unpleasant effects site should stop. Told her if she, had iketisation of sickness in stomach, she should stop it. Alm was to take it for 15 or 20 days..# .Told her until she had sickness at her stomach dt would be safe to take it as '1 drafted. I got two letters tin Close suocessio from her in the latter part of March.‘ He came down that time' to see if I got letter. I sent him a proscription by mail. Ho was doWn before I sont it, and was down right after to inquire about taking it. 1 think he took some 'pills 'along. One time in March, Mrs: Ktehicame alone. On 18th April, Mrs. Kiehl was along with iviM. I left for CalifMnia on 22d or 24th April. I didn't tell. n y body I - gave Mrs. Kiehl dyspepsia ills. I don't:keep any account of what I say, da office. 1 havn't ally forMula for dyspepsia pills. On 18th April, Fowler's solution was all gone. hut II little bit. She ' brought the bottle along. phe Yiad no regular time for menstrua tion"; don't remember that last time she told melt was about Her period. I thought the last tinie she was down there was no change for the better, ex capt her digestive organs wore a little stronger. I thought the medicine was doing her good. solar as her digestive organs' were. concerned.' The cases of arsenical poisoning I was called to at tend wore from glazing on applobuttor crocks. It strikes me that the _crock was half empty. Mr. Line's family had been sick an hour or an hour and 'a. ball when I got there. ..Saw them in the first. stage. Can't say what the result would have been had it reached second stage. Taylor on poisons is authority. I .take Orfila sooner than any one. else. Can't Say whether Orilla is 'hiring or not. Counsel for Commonwealth read ing from Taylor . on Poisoning by Ar senic," asks witness wliother in eases which lie attended the symptoMs de scribed were present. Witness answers, .ns„far as they go - they - are the symptoms in_ oases of arsenical poison. I agree with OPIIIa. 1 Ho speaks of ,prussic acid. I Pitid particular attention to the pre scription' I gave Mrs. Kiehl. I would have bem i ad to hive soon her got over her tro uble. Can't remember what medicine 1 gave Mrs. Fitzpatrick same day. - In chief. • I oily got 8 letters hem Mrs. Kiehl.; have only two of them; she' didn't writo tome in &Wary... ' •.• DR. O. B. RUBY; moot. • • Tho drliggistii in, Shipponsburg are J. C. Altiok; Jiiileph Rankin and myself ; I know John Kiehl ; I never him, poison ; I attend to my store altogether Myself. ; . JOB, traraiw,Or.73. 'I am druggist in Shipponsburg ; I attend to the store. myself p .1. - never sold Kiehl any poison. CATRAILINI% MYARI, ate,orn. I live in Southampton township, be tweon and from where John Kiehl lived ;' wo moved •thereln 1850 ; Kiehl's _moved there a year before she 'died ; Mrs. Kiehl and I were cousins ; my father's family and Kiehl's were on very good forme ; we Visited each other a groat deal ; myfithevand Mrs. Kiehl's mother were sister and brother ; I (but went to Kiehl's last Fall, between corn_ cutting time and husking ; I was a few days over•three week- at Miller's ; wont from there toltiebllu; I luta at • Kiehl's about 8 weeks the first time ; Mrs.' Diehl asked mo first to come ; she asked me before I. went to Miller's ; Mrs. Kiehl had very sore hands first time, and I went there, and that is why I went ; she had totter on her hands ; corth plaining nio,re or loss all the titan I was there; she complained of her la, tit and a pain in her head ; didn't comp'ain of anything else at that time; it was some. tithe after that she complained of a pain 'in the side ; she said I should lay my hand on her heart and I did so, and it fluttered very.. much ;,- I _told her She ought to - go to a • duct* ; this would make her very sick sometimes ; she did go to Dr. Noviirin Shipponsburg ; she took his medicine, and she said it did not help her,- that ishewas• coming to Dr. Zitzor in Carlisle ; she said the doctor told her she had palpitation of the heart very bad ; she amid doctor told her if she didn't take 'care of herself ho could not cure her; she should not. exorcise 'too muck, and not work too much ; she brought some pbwders with her ,• 'this was' after the holidays; t h is was after I had been at Miller's; had boon home' a week or so; :I went back again after she had got the medicine from Zitzer's ; • she sent' for • me, she was not able to do her work The medicine she took made her sick. John Kiehl cams for me. I don't know who he asked for first. Nly sister Jane wad' home. 'When I went over. she, raid she was very sick and had sent ILm, me to see if I would not do .her work Uir , her. Site was not' doint,;7anyillitig when E went there ; she corriplained of,,a pain in her heart and in hullo:id.; she had to vomit very mueLas ne4 as I can tell ; I was only there that .time ; a feW days' after that Mrs. Kiehl did the work herself ; it was not long until.l wont -back again for a couple of days, as 8110 was not able to eio her work ; 1 was back and for rward—a--iimber—uftimes-havheti—John- - came overlie said eithorJane or come, ho spoke to Jane first about going and she said she would not go, then ho said one of us must come as his wife was very sick ; this time- II was there ; 1 Was only there one night; I found her lay ing on the floor ; she was vomiting and complained of pain in her' heart ; I did not then go back for several weeks, in the meantime she came down to the Dr. WllOO she came back she told me she used the medidine about a week before wont there to do anything, and she was not any better, for the medicine made her very sick every time she took of it ; she complained of her heart and of her head, and the medicine made her throw up very much ; I thibk she got drops front Zitzor this time ; `I was there 2 days and one night this time. Thin was after - she came back from Zitzer's tho second time that I kuow of. She got very sick and vomited very much. I did not think she s °old live until Morning. She got better and the next, evening I went home, and she done her ,own work. I was not there then for a couple of -weeks after. John came over for me. She was ba lug, and could notliniih it. I found her sitting on the stair stop, not able to do any thing: She had got so far as kneading up the dough. This was on Saturday. 1 wanted to go 110010 emßunday evening, but there was a very deep snow, and the road was not broken. I went home on Monday morning, after &nog the morn ing work for Mrs. 'Kiehl. She wanted me to stay for this- purpose. 1 recut home and was not bask for over a couple of weeks, and thou Mr. Kiehl's sister came for me this time. I stayed 4or 5 weeks, can't say exactly. I then wont back a week or 10 days before she bath this last spell, as near as 1 can mind. I was, there 2 days. The medi, tine Made her very sick. I asked her if elm thought it was the medicine, and she said she thought it was. During that winter, from the holidays until last sickness; I presume I was at about one-half of the time, as Mrs. Kiehl had so much sickness, and she would always send for me, as she said I knew hors to do her work. I think she told me she would take froth 6 to 12 drops, and she told me she was not particular about ' dropping it ; I told her that when the medicine made her sick she ought to ho particular, as it was strong medicine ; she told mo several times that "what she took at once sho need not take at twice"; I Often saw _her pouring it out in the cup, she said the Dr. told bee to take from 6 to 12 drops and that in water; I used to see her put the water,; in the cup and then pour the mi diethe in on the water ; when she first got the medicine she would drop it in the cup ; she kept it in die cupboard in thehitchen; it was a box of powders and two bottles with d nips ; 'she most always took her medicine ; almost every time she took the Medicine it mode her throw up; she would mostly walk to the water bucket to take her medicine ; I know of her be ing exit aordinarly rick a couple of times that I thought she would not live from 'the effects of the medicine ; the last time member of seeing her pour medicine in the cup was not long before her death ,• 1 guess a week or 10 days, as near as can remember ; the bottle was.thon about full ; her spells of sickness were about 3 or 4 weeks apart; she complained - of her heart ; thessl spells came on about the time of her month) ericas and she would always complain to in that it was a pain huller heart-and in her' ead, and' the medicine ; these-were the two times I spoke of ber'being so. ill L thought she would not live; the last time i was with her was on Tuesday evening ; besides vomiting she purged a good bit still'; the bottle was about a 4,„ounco bottle. Cross examfned'byjErr'llaglattglqin. The first Limiwent to John Kiehl's was in the Fall'can't tell month, it was 'about corn . .cating• time ; I was there about 8 weeks that time ; Mrs. Kiehl was away for a couple of days seeing her friondis, John took her down ; she- wont on Thursday and same back on 111011. day,; John .came back on Thursday evening; I think this was the only tune she was 'away during these 8 weeks, her hands-wore so sore ; after leaving Mayed home two weeks; I went home -just before the holidays; - she was taking medicine from Zitzor after 1 went back ; the drops were. strung,' I tasted them, , they were bitter, very bitter; ehe sas taking powders also ; the Medicine would make ben 'sick • I *as back, and forth at Kiehl's a number of times when Mrs. Kiehl took the+, going home when she got well ; when she would oat any thing it would make her throw up ; when she ' would vomit' • it was a green color and kind of purplish ; she said the medicine WllB,llO unpleasant to take sho did not like to take it; I don't know hoW long it , was 1 A went there before Mary Donor came • it might . have boon ,a week, and might: have 'been more; I don't know of any other,liottles of medi chid tteing in the cupboard, other titan the 4 ounce bottle anti the- box of pow-. dors ; there wore some tineture bottl there also, such tie usually _kept about a house ; the last time she was dome when she Caine home she'told ins that sho told the 'doctor: that the medicine was very. unpleasant ~to• take, and - he had put something in to make it morei.plensant to take. • Dn. RO.BT. E. ROGI:118, worm I live in the city of Philadelphia ; I occupy; the Chair of 'chemistry, In the modicardepartm,ent of tjfe university of Pennsylvania c the symptoms of arsenical poleon ara.iixceedingly variable,- some times irritating; sometimes , effecting the `neryoussystem ; sometimes of a narcotic eheraotei ;•when they an irritating, they effect -. especially what is .ealled . the mucus membrane, or " the lining mom= inane of the Stomach and hotels . ; whoa affecting the nervous system, they seem to.attack' or destroy, what is called tb , power of enervation, not then producing .especially - the irritation • of the mucous membrane ; the symptoms are of a nar cotic kind, 'when the system is over whelini3d by a powerful narcotic, such as _ 'opium ; from this it is evident that the symptoms must "lie extremely variable ; 'sometimes wo have • weakness, faint, nese, nausea and sickness, but .not 'always all of these. At times the symptoms of arsenical poisoning, art v.sniting, purging, extaeme retching and straining, sometimes with ;mil sometimes without streaks of blood in the vomited rearter, but hot always all of these; sonretitni an extreme burning of, the, stomach and gullet up- .to the "mouth, and constriction of the - throat ; =out-, ponied by extreme unsatisfying and un quenchable thirst ; at times, however, this burning is absent, this constriction of the throat, this burning of the gullet,: . excessive pain in the stomach is ex perienced, sometimes it is absent; some times violent cramps in the calf of the legs; this isnot - al ways present ; extreme , sensibility and sometimes a want 'of. , sensibility and of sensation exists ; some times the patient feels chilled, cold, al ternated with heat ; this is not invariable and constant ; the patient is sometimes extremely relaxed, the skin cold and clammy ; restlessness is present ; the eyes express suffering ; the brain is ef fected in its powers, delirium and stupor, and death may close the symptoms, but several of these may be omitted and re placed by °there showing' that many organs and structures of the body• aro susceptible of the impresSion of this irri tant poison ; these symptoms aro not exclusively duo to arsenic; post mortem examination and chemical analysis would he useless, sine° all that would be needed would be merely to remember thattlioso symptoms alwaks bolting to arsenic and when you found there you would be tare arsenic was present. Q.—Are not those symptoms you haVr duseribed suffleieutlylike thosewhich gen erally attend inflammation of the stomach and hotels as to prevent us from distin guishing between the natural disease and the effects of - irritant poison? A.— They are Q.—Are the symptoms of arsenic con -sidered-as-an-irrit,.4 }winon ilxed - a - m invariable? A.—Tboy are not. The symptoms of none of the irritant, poisons aro fixed turd invariable. It is among tile bei.t established truths in medical science that age, sex, consti tutional peculiarities, the state of health at.the thee when taken, as well as the quantity in which the substances may be given,. influence materially if not to a large degree the effect which the sub stance may produce, and consequently the symptoms that may attend. The symptoms of gastro enteritis aro not ab solutely fixed and invariable, but more so than the symptoms of irritant poisons. Tney, however, are, many of them, en tirely like-the symptoms of the irritant poisons.'Among - the symptoms of gastro enteritis are those which attend inflam mation of the stomach and bowels, often roxtendang from tho lower extremity of, the bowels up to the cavity of the mouth with similar pains at times, similar burnings of the gullet, and similar thirst. Some of the substances that will pro duce these symptoms are tartar emetic,. corrosive sublimate, saltpetre, caustic alkalies, oxidic acid, white hollaboro and cantharides. Court adjourned. FRIDAY MORNING DR. R. E. Roastie, Ch4ef. It would bo impoaniblo to any what won the cause of death as detailed by the two ex amining physicians who made the post !nor tem examination. _lt is possible to deter mine from a post mortem e.xausination the character of the disease which has - caused death. If it Wer'o not tor that, very few post ruortems would be performed, since it is a v,ry distasteful procedure. There was nothing peculiar to irritant potions detailed by the 1104 mortein examiners. Cross examined. But to he fair towards the postmortem oxaminers, I desire to say that their report of the condition of the bowels which they . cut open would indicate some abnormal Condition, but from what cause one could scarcely tell. A medico-legal aut..psy should he conducted exhaustively in my opinion. The examination in this ciao would not regard so exhaustive. If I urt• derstood the report correctly, the gullet was not opened and examined, the heart was not opened and examined, the kidneys were not opened and examined for the possible evidence of Bright's disease. , The stomach was not opened and the condition of its in- terior examined. How far the ovaries were examined I will not pretend to say, since I understood Dr. Kieffer to say that they were in a healthy condition. They should have been opened. I presume they ai•e: I would desire - to make a statement lia I think is proper at this moment : ihu stomach was not oponed ; it is very often not opened in autopsies becauso it is deired to preserve the contents of the stomach for the chemical examination, and therefore it would not reflect' upon Dr. Kieffor profes.lionally for having omitted lo open it, hut only destroys the complete ness. or the po,o moment exttunnation. The pots found on the hotly were Only the miliar spots preceding a state of decompo citiun or incipient decomposition. These spots are net evidence of disease specially. 'Loo tumors or gangrenous swelliiig under the ear were doubtlin.s the result of decom position, and . worn not tire evidence or marks of any disease. s Tumors might have existed during life. From my experience and reading these spots or tunters were no evidence of irrrtant poison. It is not pos sible to determine the condition. of the mucous coat Of the stomach by examining. the exterior coat. The spots 'on the body mid swelling under the car occur quite frequently - in bodies in ordinary disease. The stomach consists of 3 different laymi : a tough coat, then rt muscular layerNite).: on the inside the mucous tnembrane.N'bo. those outer layers, the tough and mit& s Mr, are not transparent, and, the farrMir) might oilmen expect to telliii's'neightfOE what kind of grain a .sack contained by looking at the outside. 'From the report of the chemist—goy friend, Dr. Itand— where ho informed us that it Was ao offen sive that lie could not with comfort bear the'smell, I should say - that it was in such a sotto of decomposition that it would be inconsistent with the idea of the antiseptic or preservative . power of arsenic. The word gangrene is used with considerable confusion. Many persons speak of a thing being gangrene. referring to it us n sort of greenish rottenness. The true meaning of the term as used. in surgerpis the slough ing off of that which is diseased front thoi which is healthy—in other words'mortifi cation. W hen it has separated'entirely from the diving part, and becomes, itself dead, it then undergoes ordinary putrefac tion or rotting. Q.—ln making 'a post mortem ,examination for medico-legal , purposes, where peculiar sympb•ms have been observed to have been treated by the, attending physician, what organs should be especially examined 7 , A.—lt is con• sidered . proper to examine thoso or guns - which are• suspected to be .the seat of the .disease. I feel it but due to, my professional brethren, that, the failaro to examine the organs which:should bo exiimined,'do not effect their profession: , al studding. I have been called upon,. grdatly against my feelings, and Akio ..rny interests; til have .only 'comer inlihtlaience to tho authority of the court, after learning from my friond Dr,' Reese, who had'ob wined information from an eminenttlaiv yet. that I was.bound to obey, both from law and duty, 'lt is especially painful be: mum I am 'called uritsit 'to comment upon t ho chemical analysis imirfarmed by a broth er chemist and-brother physician, 'a per eohal . friend and one who ..Occupies as high ft . posftlCin its myself, in a sister medi cal school. I therefore desire to say that whaterier cothrnents make have nothing. whatever. to do with .•Dre Rand's ability, skill and professional standing. , A medico legal, arialyaisahould be eihauative; scifar - as to run the important changes through which that' metal caw be passed in the dem .onstrotion of Its presence, und in the por- =9EI =EEO TERMS-42.00 "a Year in 'edesoce. $2.60 if not veld within the year. formanco of 'thosq processes, which prove absolutelyand without a. doubt, that the substance is arsenic and nothing else. - "t think Dr. Rand's analysis' waS not thus - exhaustive:• • We consider it necessary in proving in so grave a case involving life, , beyond . thepossibility of, error or doubt, tliat.the arsenic and only arsenic is; the sub stance. Dr. Rand failed, by ",.tionfining himself to the Bettina tests, and obtaining , ho.octoliedral, or .8 sided crystals. IsToth mg short of obtaining the , metallic spot of arsenic, the mottillie mirror of arsenic add ' :he stibscqiieut treatment of the spot and ' the, mirror, by the eharacteredic Jest for, arsenic, is regarded sallcient in ~delta. case. The Mar:lt's apparatus. in it, linen lied • appllcatiotiOlie reduntbm test, and coo liquid tents, after having obtained the nght-sided crystals, should have been used. am convinded that 'Dr. Rand was himself satisfied that what he had "done proved the presence of neiehicr; but it would not-sitisfy , the demands of analytical chemistry. 'An experienced farmer . may !Oak over nits grain field ; and - say fit' once that it is an im , perfect field', he feels it by his own familiar. contact ; but a strangiit to farming Would not so feel it. That farmer would:carry over' the field stop by step; and show, -. hitu; mingled with the .wheat, cockle, rye and eheatoand when he had shown tiro all tlectoTtts foreign to the wheat, that "Ma'. victual would, then, like the farmer, knOw it was not a good field of wheat. The tests Tor arsenic tire Reinsch!ti test, Mafsh's test; . and its modificatious ; the reduction test (the reduction and production of a mirror in a tube--,teget. the metal is the object by this test,) and the produring of the sulph ide of arsenic, and the liquid test, including the . octoliedral ot - eight-sided crystals. . Theso•rnay be refined upon, the, successive steps gone over and over again, so as to add confirmation ,to the previous results. That "used by Dr. Rand was not legiti mately Marsh's test. -- This test depends upon the fact- that when either Metallic arsenic or any of the compounds is brought in contact with water, pure metallic zinc„ and oil-ef vitriol a gas is -formed-,---Tliat— gas contains the arsenic along' with the hydrogen—Soother gas which was con tained in the water, Billed amputated hydrogen gas. Now 'that gas ie made to issue through a , 111111 "Ones tube drawn to it fine opening, which has been connected by a cork to a gl iss and as it escapes . .s et-tire to. If ~on— l ct ah tiers el hydrogon will burn tip and turn to water, end the arsenie that was there will burn up and turn to the white arsenie,or ratsbane. But if now you hold a wh.th elitist- saucer, making the flatne strike ‘in the saucer ; the cold saucer will so cool down the eirsenit: ns to prevent its burning, and to make it deposit as a • bright metallic 'mirror on the saucer. This should ba subsequently so treated as ip,exclude antimony and other metals. Q dation by Mr' Grahain. Were the proe . esses used by Dr. Rand for estimating the quantity of arsenic those generally adopted by chemists? A.—They are not. I understood Dr. Rand to state that he had treated the stomach first with hydrochloric acid ior some days in a cov ered vessel, and afterwards with hydro chloric acid and .chlorate of potassa, and after digesting for a time. with heat until rill the organio'inaterial had been:broken up and the chlorine expelled, he transmit ted through the liquid for several days sulphureted hydrogen gas with a view to. throw down or precipitate any arsenio and other metals that would fall He gathered this precipitate and treated it with weak ammoniit. which wag intended to dissolve the sulphide of.arsenic and leave any other metals undissolved. He then evaporated ,this solution of sulphide of arsenic, dim"- - solved.ikammonia to dryness, in a pre w,elkhod glass beaker. Ho then weighed this-dried product, and estimated. the whole of it as sulphide of arsenic. He should have secured the purity of that sul phide of arsenic - before - weighing. The process, as far as it was carried by him, would give a result that might have con tained organic matter, besides the sulphide of arsimio. Therefore, it should hiive either been treated with nitric acid, first and nitrate or carbonate of soda ; or by means of nitrate of soda directly by calci nation. This process ,destroys all organic matter, and leaves the arsenic in a condi tion ready to be precipitated as pure sill, plikle of arsenic, and thus to be weighed and estimated. According to the process of Dr." Rand, there would have been a pre cipitate obtained hadthere been no arsenic present. This precipitate would _have been sufficiently of the color of sul phide of arsenic as to render it unsafe for the chemist to have pro nounced it arsenic ' • it might have been organic matter ; the longer the gab would be passed thr , mgh the liquid, the more organic matter would have been precipitated ; a larger or smaller amount of organic matter must have boon pre cipitated by the process deed ; if arsenic had boon present, half, three-fourths any amount proportionately of organic Matter might have, bean present ; there is no limit. Q. Assuming that arsenic waspresent, was there anything in'Dr. Rand's analy sis tO indicate the quantity present? • L. No, you could not determine the- absolute quantity since steps were not taken to remove organic matter. Q. Will a very minute quantityof sonic in using Reirich's, test • make a do posit on a considerable surface of copper P A. A very minute qoaut)ty of arsenlo - will cover a vary considerable surface of copper relative to the quantity of arsenic, just as a small quantity of lime will' cover a considerable surface of wall; a. small quantity thus deposited upon cop., per, will,. When heated in a test tube, yield (paw a number of crystals; the estimate of quantity indidated by Tay lor, -is from one-three. thoushandth to one-two thousandth of a grain of am nia which would give considerable mun tier of crystals; the sulphuretod hydro gen ought to have been tested, as it might have carried arsenic over, because the metallic iron ancl,sulphur which are 448 . yd in making what is called eulphuret oßnon from which sulphureted hydrogen 'a, to be prepared, sometimes contain ariionio•• therefore when' snlphureted hydrogen comes from this sulphuret of iron which may contain arsenic, by taking the hydrogen from the. water, • may itself contain arsonio. ,Q. Dr. Rand stated that his kuourna to quantity of arsonio in liver, -was obtained by coating copper foil by . the suspected fluid ; is it - possible in this way to guess the amount of arsenic, in liver? A. It is not ;It is not possible to toll thickness of deposit on copper, any more than to toll thickness of white wash or paint on wall ; spots feund in filter by Dr. Rand might have , been fat and alhnmen ; arsenic is either paised from stomach in vomiting, by purging, or is absorbed into the systemvor it may be all three. By absorption ; I mean whoa. a substance introduced into-the etomaoh is either in dissolved state already, or dissolved there, and then taken up by .absorbents of stomach, and conveyed • into the bitiodvesselei that is absorption proper; it is 'carried 'to the Various organs and structures.' of , the" body and may he lodged in them ; arsenic is by no means the only metal. absorbed ; anti mony taken as tartaremetio, quicksilver, copper, lead, silver, in fact, it would be* difficult to say what metal isn't taken Q, Is arsenic rOtainedie stomach for any length of time? . . - .I should' say it le.retained in. -systolic under some circumstances , fork hours, Iforaetimea for days, .and, Seme times for weeks. Q; If arsenic be taken" medicinally ie . it apt to remain in' the , system for a longer time than if talnfia in one or. two ,poierinous A. It would remain longer irr-the system for the teasels ' that" it has • time when taken medicinally to penetrate and spread out through the „entire system,. . while in violent,, poisonous doses, it may . be thrown off entirely and not a trace re. main ;' the quantity found after' death is uot'always the barrio even , if the dose be tho same ; it does not always require the, same dose of arstmicao poison, but varies , tenirrititten ON MOND Pike% E
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