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A TRUE REPUBLICAN.
| Upper Paxton, July 80.
Borer anv tn
AmeEricaN Patrior.
| $$ To speak his thousnis,
Is evrry Freemen’sright.”’
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BerLreronag, Aveust 18, 1817.
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tn <n = nt pon erat
In the True American’ofthe 31st ult
the editor Mr. Stiles, has given his readers
an amusing calculation of what he stppo-
ses will be the votes in somie of the west
ernand middle countics for governor at
the next gencral election ; but, unfortu
nately for him and his party, he has groun-
ded his estimates on data the most fa
Jacious and delusive of auy he oould pos
sibl y have assumed—He tests all his visi-
onary conceits on the elec tion for governor
in 1814, when the federalists and oldschool
men set up Isaac Wayne against gov. Sny-
der. The result of that ¢lection shows thal
the democrats over the state generally did
not consider that there would be any don-
ger of Wayne succeeding, and therefore a
great many of them did net turn out to the
election. But why did not this saprent cal
culator refer to some election when the
contest was serious, and each party rous-
ed to try their strength ? Such as the elec
tion in 1799, 1805 and 1808. In 1799 the
federalists were m the zenith of their pow-
cr and the contest was whether Fe ptanid
retain it or not—They were much more
confident of success thong than they have
"any reason to bz now, yet they lost by up-
wards of 5,000 votes,—In 1805 the strug-
gle was to have a convention to alter the
constitution, to obtain which a number ol
the democrats considered it necessary to
turn out governor M:Kean, who had set
his face against it—A large body of the
democrats opposed this measure, and being
jnined by the federalists in a body, MKean
carried by a majority of 4,766 The ma-
- yority, however, would have been on the
other side had it not been for Mr Heister’s
trout letter charging the democrats with in-
tending, if they carried, to make an equal
distribution of property. In 1808 the dem-
~ocrats set up Mr. Snyder a ain—the feder-
alists Mv. Ross, and the quids Mr. Spayd
Then was the strength of the parties fairly
tried, and never was an election more
warily contested in Pennsylvania. The
graaler part of the quids. either continued
with the federalists, or returned to the dem:
ecrats,” The whole number of votes then
given was 111,564, of which Simon Snyder
had €7,975, James Rosas 39,575, Jno. Spayd
4006, and 8 scattering—giving a majority
to Siiyder over Ross of 28.400, and over
both Ross and Spayd of 24,394—1n 1805
the whole number of votes for governor
were 82 522, showing an increase of votes
in three years of 29,042 over the state. In
1814 (Mr. Stiles” year) there were given
for governor only 81,593 votes—-showing a
dec. case in six years of 29,971. Yer the
Census of that year show that there were
of qualified voters in the state 163,780.—-
So that one half of the voters had not vot-
ed. This Mr. Stiles might have seen had
he turned over to pages 1435-6 of the same
Journal from which he quotes.
Atthe conclusion of his profound re-
searches, he is pleased 'o remark as follows:
“ The editor of the American Patriot
has been pleased in his wisdom, to say that
Centre county will poll 1700 votes at the
ensuing election.” He then refers his
readers to the Journal of Senate of 1814,
to show that Centre, Clearfield, & M‘Kcan
united only polled 1169 votes—and he adds
with an air of profound sagacity, « yet
Centre alone this year, to please Muy,
Petrikin, is to poll 531 more votes than
Centre, Clearficld and M:Kecan did in 1814
« To what feurile schemes some men re-
sort to bolster up their feeble cause’
Now sapient Mr. Stiles we will show you
presently, who displays most wisdom,
whose schemes are most peurile, and
whose cause is most feeble
on the 1st Friday of Nov. last the coun-
ties ‘of Centre and Clearfield, united, only
polled 721 votes, being 448 votes less than|]
In 1814. Now we suppose Mr, Stiles
would allow that according to his calcu-
; years.
lation, when the votes had thus decreased Tm in Capt. Crain’s company of
artillerists, in the fall of 18!4—was with
him during the campaign (nearly fow
months) and came home with him. 1
knew him to be a seber, prudent, judicious
and unassuming young man; few of hi
age so much so.
in two years, there would be no votes at
all in Centre and Clearfield next election,
or very few. But we have more certain
data ta fourd our’ opinion on; which we
wil present Mr. Stiles, for the purpose
of illummating his understanding en the
subject, and justifying our statement,
he will take the trouble to lunk at the Jour.
nal of the Senate of 1808, page 81, he wil;
1797 votes; 1609 of which were for Sny-
der; 177 for Ross; 10 for Spayd, and 1
scattering... This however. includes
votes of Clearfield county, which were in
1230 votes; of waich Spyder bad U27~—imanpers; of a brave, open-hearted und
Td ls
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oo»
Conti Yo tut
it ™ Laks ih, “
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WAL
never heard himbutier an oath tom
di Contre county Soyder bad a mujotity oi [Certain knowledge, during my acquaintine
£355 votes over Riss, arid in'bot. « otniics with hinx © On the contrary, hs deport
{432—aad uver Ross and 3oayc 1422. Infmeut was that of the gentleman inc :
i8U5 Cenire county polled Hor yoverngriticuar He is ‘a young man sof annabic.
Ca Ne na i age : “
~~=0N1y 1 Laas fin vw C OHO 06 oo
3 ;
M Kean 203. Cleariicid poled 57 vores, friendly disposition, and was greatly ©s-
11 tor Suyicrand 16 for M<Kean ; leavingiteemed by every’ man in the Company.
amajority for Snyder in both counties of!He siept in the same tent with myseli, snd
849—[Incrcased numer of votes in both belonged to the same mess; L thereloré]
.
“a
° AM ral ahwiys Lutes Gein FAY
andi get dal, that the eluschoot digi a
made my and sowie others of us belicye in
ns county, hdl thoy would mike or
aeighvor, A Greug. covernor. Inc this
Ley iUossiy Geoiy id 0%. but we had ie..
vanced too Rr to recede, and 1am gf oq
we have sacrificed bo h principle and Hitters
est. The oldschool [saders have deprived
ing number of votes it was boastiully as-
scrted in the Reading Journal, some time
the 57th page of the same Journal, you
will see, that the whole number of votes
polled in that county for Governorin 1814
amounted only tor 4295-—precisely 705
votes less than the number calculated vo
this year for Mr. Heister.
rile schemes some men resort to bolster
up their feeble cause.” : “
morning, I find the following paragraphii—
“burg, fell in with a young man, who
“greatly annoyed every person
“ hearing with his swaggering and noise.
“swearing that Findlay did not care a d--n
« for all the Dutch votes ; he could get
« plenty of American votes, &c. Upon in.
At the last election for Electors, held|‘* quiry, the swaggerer was discovered t
“ be Firdlay’s son !”
neighbor in Harrisburg for
Ifjdid utter the words above laid to his
charge, nor any words of the kind. Ian:
also confident that ne person who know:
find that Centre county polled for governor him will ever belicve he did say so.
further, I am persuaded no gentleman, no:
other person of eredit, wiil come forward
thejin his proper person, and say that he wa
than in 18908, nine years ago, when it polled
459 more ii that year than nt did only three
years before 7 It is manitest 1Hat in ¥814
the democrats of Centie cousty, like ‘lie
had no anxiety about the fate of the electi-
on. There was nothing in jeopardy to
rouse their attention; they were confident
Snyder would be elected without any ¢ieat
ed at home. But ia 1805, 1808 and 18:7
the conflict is preciscly similar, and the
tarn cut will be. simidar also. Therefore
had eur cemputation been 2000 instead of
1700 votes in Centre, there would have been
nothipg extravagant or peurile nit 5 aid it
is very probabie that the number will not
ie much short of that if any. Bul observe
how those very sagacious wise men of the
¢ast chime ingtheir caleulations. Sen
time ago, Mr, Hamilton the editor of the
Lancaster Journal, published that he had
it from 'a gentleman of great respectabifity
and information, who lived mn Centre county
too, that Findlay would not have 300 votes
in the whole of that Democratic county—
next week, however, he stated that his in-
formant was (00 sanguine, for he bad i
trom another gentleman of respectability
and information in Centre couniy, that
Findlay might have from 400 to 450 votes
there, and that Heister would have about
1400, probably move; so that it appears
by the statements of these well informed
gentlemen, who it seems both lived in
the county, that there would be 185) vores
poll in Centre county next election.
Good Mr. Suies, will you be pleased in
your wisdom, to tell us now who resorts to
puerile schemes to bolster up their fee-
ble cause ;” You will see from the ahove
statement that we had no reason to make
our statement to please any person, and
that your asserting so was impudent and
ungenerous Will you permit it to be said,
that you make your rediculous statements
to please Leib and Dnanc ? :
The editor of the True Amovican has
taken great pains to prove, on authority of
the Journal of Senate of 1814, the falacy
of the calculations made in favor of Mr.
Findlay, by bis friends, in this and oth-
ther counties. It gs a bad rule that
wont work both ways,” says thc proverb.
What think ye, Mr Stiles, of the thump
since, Mr Heister would obtain in the
single county of Berks alone in October
next, viz 5000. Now by a reference to
“ To what pey-
nn
In the Independent Republican of this
“ A gentleman, at a tavern in Harris.
within
I am well acquainted with William Find
ay’s eldest son William. 1 lived his
nearly two
I marched with him as a voluntee:
I am certain he never
An
wel
whoie 108: leaving for Centre county 1689!
present’ and heard him say so. |
know he is neither a
very « peurile” to suppose that Centre
county may make 11 votes more this year
democrats in the other counties of the state,
exertion, and therctore many ol then stay-
scribe my real name. :
SAMUEL HARRIS.
185.1817.
Bellefonte, Aug.
: 8
The following is a copy of a letter from an
oldschool gentleman of respectability and
W. H. of Laocaster, which somc how
or other lost its way on the route.
Friend Billy==1 find irom your Journal
that « g gentleman of respectability and in-
tormation from Centre county, of which
he is an inhabitant,” bas stated to you that
s within the last few weeks there has been
a most astonishing change in tavor ol gen.
Hester,” and that «it is not ex pected that
Findlay will bave three hundred votes in
the whole of that democratic county.”
. Verily, fuend William, sho d this hap
{pen, it would be «@ most astonishing
change ! 1 | Butit seems that afier vecei-
ving this statement from this gentleman of
respectability and information. you conver.
sed with another gentleman gf respecta-
whose word you «rely with the utmost
confidence.” He states that the first gen
tleman of respectability and information
was ¢ too sanguine in his statement, as it is
probable that, according to this last genile.
man’s statement, Findlay will obtain trom
400 to 450—and that « on the side of Hels
ter it is expected there will be about 1400,
perhaps more.” To publish these things
for the amusement and encouragement of
our friends in your county, is all very well.
Sorrow will come soon enough: but you
know thatl am pretty well acquainted with
county, and I assure you that whatever
changes have taken place among them, are
ver very numerous,
The tederalists have played the mischief
with us here. We were willing to take
their aid but the wisest of us wished them
to be silent, so that the people might not
know that the contest lay between the {ed-
cralists and democrats: but they could not
resyrain their zeal. They would bawl and
bluster and banter the democrats to bet on
the issue of the clection, and eur silly old
school men took them to their mectings
and consultations. These things have
completely unmasked us, so that I am ver
ily. psmsuaded, that the statements of your
well intormed gentlemen wilt be much
more correct il you invert them, aud pul
Findlay for Heister and Heister for Find.
iv. 1 mention this to you as a friend,
justto put you on your guard, lest that by
such RESPECTABLE statements you should
be entrappel in the way and manacr you
was in 1808. You remember, I dare say.
that inthe spring of that year, such was
your confidence in the respectabic state-
ments of your gentlemen correspondents,
that you bet forty doliars (1 thinkit was)
that Ress would have a greater majority
in Lancaster county than Suyder would
nave in Centre. = The result was, you lost
your money hollow : for Sayder had a ma:
jority in Centre county of 1432 votes, while
Ross, in Lancaster county, bad a majority
ot only 491: Suyder’s majority in Centre
county being nearly thrée to one of Roes’s
im Lancaster. And indeed, sir, Iam afraid
that the next election will eventuate some-
what similar. [ therclore caution you, sir,
not to throw away your money on betting
this year, as you did in 1808, notwithstand.
ing the statements of your very respecta
ble and well informed correspondents, in
whom you have the fullest confidence : for
be assurred you have no hetier round of
confidence now than you had then, and io
tell you the truth, bot quite so much 3 for
Ross was then much more respected in
Centre county, and I suspect, in Lancaster
too, than Heister is now, and betw cen opy-
sclves (though I do not wish this to be men-
ioned to any other person) much more de-
serving of respect.
You may rely on it, friend Rilly, that the
democrats of Centre county are an obstinate
ind stiff-necked race. “We have been do-
10g; our best to move them, but they wii
1ot be moved ; to shake them, but they
will not be shaken. . They cannot be warp-
:d like you and I. You know you wa
mee a very zealous democrat, until you
SWAT TErEr NOT e30Car
es :
found that 1t wae your mte; ost
winnerrvitted abuse, I do not hesitate tosub-: other counties distributing
intormation in Centre county, to his {iiend
the dispositions of the people of Centre!
i
yrhe was then a tourh Findlay man.
to wheel ad
counties from 1805 10 1808 (tiuee years thad certainly a good opportunity of beinglus of Gregu, and, 1 Lear very ;
1512—Increased maj rity abou 513—In-{well acquainted with him. | . jdeinocgts will deprive 1s ofuiimiste rh Bk | by
jereased majorny in Cernire alone in these 3) I also know Mr. Findlay's secofld son, tow Yad hcigel's son.ip (at "wx
years, 431. Increased number of votes)Samucl. 'T know him to be a quict, Was- Pal aif usa bit aud ge a F »
159. M:«Kean county made no returns injsuming, modest boy, incapable of ute NETEREONMGE IRONED ORIG, 1 Htc ha 3 i.
hose years. ithe words or sentunents above sited, oripromised too much. The very same office |
In 1800'the numbter of taxa! Ted ni EEMe any thing like them. he the has promised, L understand, w mope than i
was 1,341 5 Iu 1807 it was 158. Jucrease| Believing the above statement in the In-! half a dozen of us; of course shogld be ¢- iy
in seven years 577. Now may we be per-ldependent Republican to be false, and not’ veit succed, some of us must be disappoin. : 4
mitted to ask Mr. Stiles if it sppears solbeing ashamed to defend the innucent {rom ted, It secins he has visited a number of a
: ‘the offices in
ithe same way ; bat I doubt VEY much the
hardened democrats wil set all his ploceea
dings aside. Phe misery is, my
ASH : fiend,
that in iis county, and Iam wiormed, in
the adjoining counties; the Duich are our
mest deermned opposers. They ALG
mostly soll democrats— there is no twistg
them. There are a good many of thei
who came from Berks county, and, in gen +
eryl, these are Uwe most viciously Opposed
to Heister. YWhen we try to bring them
over by ennmerating bis many virtues ang
greatgaalifications, they sneer at us, ang
reply that they know him better than we
tdo — To be plain with you, my friend, they
‘know hh too well 4 n
| 1begin to wish from my very soi! that
thad stuck with the democrats, and so does
1c most of us who have tuened lately.
We could pave gone back when the old-
ischool rornes ay Pith elphia destroye
four Liopes, and i iy ‘
thy casing off Mr. Greggs but they assur.
ed us that Hetmer wonld surely succeed.
That all tire Germans would vote for him,
bility and information also, no doubt, on an thai so would the federvalists to a man,
jd hat the senator from Berks, who is a fed.
1eralist, had, ia tig“ name of all the’ rest,
pledged the whol body, As to the Dutch,
we hase lost all confidence in thems fort
is said, aud Tam afeaid with too mnch truth,
that many oi is own neighbns are Wpns-
ed to him - That it is becoming very
doubtful whether he wiil have a majority
in his cwn county 5 and that it is pretty Cet
tain the aeighboring counties will give
lrge majorities against him, It is also
ath med that many of Lis own near relati-
ons, in his own and the adjoining countics,
are zealously oppased to nm. The demo-
icrats hore say, that old Gabriel Heister,
jh his whole family connection, sure de-
very much against Heister, Indeed fy, Cided.y in favor of Fhiitay. This surly
friends, though very vociferous, were ne f2U8% SIL; and there was a son-in-law of
John Ticister in Bellefonte some weeks ago
As
to tiie fi deralists—I im afraid that they ave
driving mote democrats from us than we
will cata by them. | find there are many
federansis over the msuivains, and in the
norirern parts of the soute, who are bitter
agav tus. The Luzerne federal papers
handing Heister very ronghly.——So is
Scuil’s federal paper in Pittsburg, and some
others also 1p other places. We hear that
James Rass, and all his fiends, are decid-
ediy opprscd to un, They can never fore
give Leib and Dune lor the rancorous a-
buse which they poured out against the
weds, and Ross, si [oimer occasions.
Indeed, sir, Leib and Duare are very
much hated by the democrats—detested
by many of the federalists, and respected,
at this time, by none. Aud to be plain with
you Billy, lor friends ought to speak to
cach otzt with sincerity, your advocating
the cause of Heister is doing more hurt
than good. There is also one Stiles in
Philadeiphia, who they say is an English
tory, that is doing Lim no great kindness
by bis ardent zeal. There is asso one Gotz
in Reading, Wyeth of Harrisburg, and a
federal editor in York, Carlisle & Greens
burg, and several others of the sume kind,
whose silence would be of more usc than
their scrvices, The democrats say, if
Heisler was not known hy those geutry ta
be of their party, would they display so
much fervor to have him clected 7 This
is a culling question,
Last year, I expected Billy Dickson, of
your town, would have fallen in with the
oldschool.—1 conceited that he was leaning
alittle thae way; hut { find that the old fel-
tow’s mind is so petrified with those repub-
hcan bakbits and
which he learned in his younger days, that
there stile hopes of his ever swerving
from them. Do you thirk lie might not be
bought 2 If he were as quick sighted to
bis inte est as vou and seme more of us, he
might, The qu:ds and leds, some ten or
cleven years ago, tricd to gain hime by ter-
OT ‘Choy fued apd imprisoned him, but
(hat trade him Worse. 1 then rejoiced at
Lis firmness ; but 1 wisii now that he was a
fittle mare flexible 1 . friend Billy,
that Hetster bad appropriated the overplus
21364, which by the seduction of Leib and
Biddle hie sn oolish'y threw 4way upowthe
iaxables of Berks and Seheylkill conntics,
and jor wiichl vive hing ro tharks—
I ¢ay I wish he had anplicd them to the
ipuichasing of some few ww: of the domed
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demo -ratic prejudicess