"0 & gain vr, A belore any one else cangat a jook af ft. They justeread what suits themselves. and then biderit. But we ave not to be de ceived by a Wolf coming in sheep's clostir ing. ® Nf J | ww ¥ Fp 1 : Lk, } A TRUE REPUBLICAN. | Upper Paxton, July 80. Borer anv tn AmeEricaN Patrior. | $$ To speak his thousnis, Is evrry Freemen’sright.”’ r— BerLreronag, Aveust 18, 1817. —— rn e oe tn <n = nt pon erat In the True American’ofthe 31st ult the editor Mr. Stiles, has given his readers an amusing calculation of what he stppo- ses will be the votes in somie of the west ernand middle countics for governor at the next gencral election ; but, unfortu nately for him and his party, he has groun- ded his estimates on data the most fa Jacious and delusive of auy he oould pos sibl y have assumed—He tests all his visi- onary conceits on the elec tion for governor in 1814, when the federalists and oldschool men set up Isaac Wayne against gov. Sny- der. The result of that ¢lection shows thal the democrats over the state generally did not consider that there would be any don- ger of Wayne succeeding, and therefore a great many of them did net turn out to the election. But why did not this saprent cal culator refer to some election when the contest was serious, and each party rous- ed to try their strength ? Such as the elec tion in 1799, 1805 and 1808. In 1799 the federalists were m the zenith of their pow- cr and the contest was whether Fe ptanid retain it or not—They were much more confident of success thong than they have "any reason to bz now, yet they lost by up- wards of 5,000 votes,—In 1805 the strug- gle was to have a convention to alter the constitution, to obtain which a number ol the democrats considered it necessary to turn out governor M:Kean, who had set his face against it—A large body of the democrats opposed this measure, and being jnined by the federalists in a body, MKean carried by a majority of 4,766 The ma- - yority, however, would have been on the other side had it not been for Mr Heister’s trout letter charging the democrats with in- tending, if they carried, to make an equal distribution of property. In 1808 the dem- ~ocrats set up Mr. Snyder a ain—the feder- alists Mv. Ross, and the quids Mr. Spayd Then was the strength of the parties fairly tried, and never was an election more warily contested in Pennsylvania. The graaler part of the quids. either continued with the federalists, or returned to the dem: ecrats,” The whole number of votes then given was 111,564, of which Simon Snyder had €7,975, James Rosas 39,575, Jno. Spayd 4006, and 8 scattering—giving a majority to Siiyder over Ross of 28.400, and over both Ross and Spayd of 24,394—1n 1805 the whole number of votes for governor were 82 522, showing an increase of votes in three years of 29,042 over the state. In 1814 (Mr. Stiles” year) there were given for governor only 81,593 votes—-showing a dec. case in six years of 29,971. Yer the Census of that year show that there were of qualified voters in the state 163,780.—- So that one half of the voters had not vot- ed. This Mr. Stiles might have seen had he turned over to pages 1435-6 of the same Journal from which he quotes. Atthe conclusion of his profound re- searches, he is pleased 'o remark as follows: “ The editor of the American Patriot has been pleased in his wisdom, to say that Centre county will poll 1700 votes at the ensuing election.” He then refers his readers to the Journal of Senate of 1814, to show that Centre, Clearfield, & M‘Kcan united only polled 1169 votes—and he adds with an air of profound sagacity, « yet Centre alone this year, to please Muy, Petrikin, is to poll 531 more votes than Centre, Clearficld and M:Kecan did in 1814 « To what feurile schemes some men re- sort to bolster up their feeble cause’ Now sapient Mr. Stiles we will show you presently, who displays most wisdom, whose schemes are most peurile, and whose cause is most feeble on the 1st Friday of Nov. last the coun- ties ‘of Centre and Clearfield, united, only polled 721 votes, being 448 votes less than|] In 1814. Now we suppose Mr, Stiles would allow that according to his calcu- ; years. lation, when the votes had thus decreased Tm in Capt. Crain’s company of artillerists, in the fall of 18!4—was with him during the campaign (nearly fow months) and came home with him. 1 knew him to be a seber, prudent, judicious and unassuming young man; few of hi age so much so. in two years, there would be no votes at all in Centre and Clearfield next election, or very few. But we have more certain data ta fourd our’ opinion on; which we wil present Mr. Stiles, for the purpose of illummating his understanding en the subject, and justifying our statement, he will take the trouble to lunk at the Jour. nal of the Senate of 1808, page 81, he wil; 1797 votes; 1609 of which were for Sny- der; 177 for Ross; 10 for Spayd, and 1 scattering... This however. includes votes of Clearfield county, which were in 1230 votes; of waich Spyder bad U27~—imanpers; of a brave, open-hearted und Td ls Cb A oo» Conti Yo tut it ™ Laks ih, “ ey WAL never heard himbutier an oath tom di Contre county Soyder bad a mujotity oi [Certain knowledge, during my acquaintine £355 votes over Riss, arid in'bot. « otniics with hinx © On the contrary, hs deport {432—aad uver Ross and 3oayc 1422. Infmeut was that of the gentleman inc : i8U5 Cenire county polled Hor yoverngriticuar He is ‘a young man sof annabic. Ca Ne na i age : “ ~~=0N1y 1 Laas fin vw C OHO 06 oo 3 ; M Kean 203. Cleariicid poled 57 vores, friendly disposition, and was greatly ©s- 11 tor Suyicrand 16 for M<Kean ; leavingiteemed by every’ man in the Company. amajority for Snyder in both counties of!He siept in the same tent with myseli, snd 849—[Incrcased numer of votes in both belonged to the same mess; L thereloré] . “a ° AM ral ahwiys Lutes Gein FAY andi get dal, that the eluschoot digi a made my and sowie others of us belicye in ns county, hdl thoy would mike or aeighvor, A Greug. covernor. Inc this Ley iUossiy Geoiy id 0%. but we had ie.. vanced too Rr to recede, and 1am gf oq we have sacrificed bo h principle and Hitters est. The oldschool [saders have deprived ing number of votes it was boastiully as- scrted in the Reading Journal, some time the 57th page of the same Journal, you will see, that the whole number of votes polled in that county for Governorin 1814 amounted only tor 4295-—precisely 705 votes less than the number calculated vo this year for Mr. Heister. rile schemes some men resort to bolster up their feeble cause.” : “ morning, I find the following paragraphii— “burg, fell in with a young man, who “greatly annoyed every person “ hearing with his swaggering and noise. “swearing that Findlay did not care a d--n « for all the Dutch votes ; he could get « plenty of American votes, &c. Upon in. At the last election for Electors, held|‘* quiry, the swaggerer was discovered t “ be Firdlay’s son !” neighbor in Harrisburg for Ifjdid utter the words above laid to his charge, nor any words of the kind. Ian: also confident that ne person who know: find that Centre county polled for governor him will ever belicve he did say so. further, I am persuaded no gentleman, no: other person of eredit, wiil come forward thejin his proper person, and say that he wa than in 18908, nine years ago, when it polled 459 more ii that year than nt did only three years before 7 It is manitest 1Hat in ¥814 the democrats of Centie cousty, like ‘lie had no anxiety about the fate of the electi- on. There was nothing in jeopardy to rouse their attention; they were confident Snyder would be elected without any ¢ieat ed at home. But ia 1805, 1808 and 18:7 the conflict is preciscly similar, and the tarn cut will be. simidar also. Therefore had eur cemputation been 2000 instead of 1700 votes in Centre, there would have been nothipg extravagant or peurile nit 5 aid it is very probabie that the number will not ie much short of that if any. Bul observe how those very sagacious wise men of the ¢ast chime ingtheir caleulations. Sen time ago, Mr, Hamilton the editor of the Lancaster Journal, published that he had it from 'a gentleman of great respectabifity and information, who lived mn Centre county too, that Findlay would not have 300 votes in the whole of that Democratic county— next week, however, he stated that his in- formant was (00 sanguine, for he bad i trom another gentleman of respectability and information in Centre couniy, that Findlay might have from 400 to 450 votes there, and that Heister would have about 1400, probably move; so that it appears by the statements of these well informed gentlemen, who it seems both lived in the county, that there would be 185) vores poll in Centre county next election. Good Mr. Suies, will you be pleased in your wisdom, to tell us now who resorts to puerile schemes to bolster up their fee- ble cause ;” You will see from the ahove statement that we had no reason to make our statement to please any person, and that your asserting so was impudent and ungenerous Will you permit it to be said, that you make your rediculous statements to please Leib and Dnanc ? : The editor of the True Amovican has taken great pains to prove, on authority of the Journal of Senate of 1814, the falacy of the calculations made in favor of Mr. Findlay, by bis friends, in this and oth- ther counties. It gs a bad rule that wont work both ways,” says thc proverb. What think ye, Mr Stiles, of the thump since, Mr Heister would obtain in the single county of Berks alone in October next, viz 5000. Now by a reference to “ To what pey- nn In the Independent Republican of this “ A gentleman, at a tavern in Harris. within I am well acquainted with William Find ay’s eldest son William. 1 lived his nearly two I marched with him as a voluntee: I am certain he never An wel whoie 108: leaving for Centre county 1689! present’ and heard him say so. | know he is neither a very « peurile” to suppose that Centre county may make 11 votes more this year democrats in the other counties of the state, exertion, and therctore many ol then stay- scribe my real name. : SAMUEL HARRIS. 185.1817. Bellefonte, Aug. : 8 The following is a copy of a letter from an oldschool gentleman of respectability and W. H. of Laocaster, which somc how or other lost its way on the route. Friend Billy==1 find irom your Journal that « g gentleman of respectability and in- tormation from Centre county, of which he is an inhabitant,” bas stated to you that s within the last few weeks there has been a most astonishing change in tavor ol gen. Hester,” and that «it is not ex pected that Findlay will bave three hundred votes in the whole of that democratic county.” . Verily, fuend William, sho d this hap {pen, it would be «@ most astonishing change ! 1 | Butit seems that afier vecei- ving this statement from this gentleman of respectability and information. you conver. sed with another gentleman gf respecta- whose word you «rely with the utmost confidence.” He states that the first gen tleman of respectability and information was ¢ too sanguine in his statement, as it is probable that, according to this last genile. man’s statement, Findlay will obtain trom 400 to 450—and that « on the side of Hels ter it is expected there will be about 1400, perhaps more.” To publish these things for the amusement and encouragement of our friends in your county, is all very well. Sorrow will come soon enough: but you know thatl am pretty well acquainted with county, and I assure you that whatever changes have taken place among them, are ver very numerous, The tederalists have played the mischief with us here. We were willing to take their aid but the wisest of us wished them to be silent, so that the people might not know that the contest lay between the {ed- cralists and democrats: but they could not resyrain their zeal. They would bawl and bluster and banter the democrats to bet on the issue of the clection, and eur silly old school men took them to their mectings and consultations. These things have completely unmasked us, so that I am ver ily. psmsuaded, that the statements of your well intormed gentlemen wilt be much more correct il you invert them, aud pul Findlay for Heister and Heister for Find. iv. 1 mention this to you as a friend, justto put you on your guard, lest that by such RESPECTABLE statements you should be entrappel in the way and manacr you was in 1808. You remember, I dare say. that inthe spring of that year, such was your confidence in the respectabic state- ments of your gentlemen correspondents, that you bet forty doliars (1 thinkit was) that Ress would have a greater majority in Lancaster county than Suyder would nave in Centre. = The result was, you lost your money hollow : for Sayder had a ma: jority in Centre county of 1432 votes, while Ross, in Lancaster county, bad a majority ot only 491: Suyder’s majority in Centre county being nearly thrée to one of Roes’s im Lancaster. And indeed, sir, Iam afraid that the next election will eventuate some- what similar. [ therclore caution you, sir, not to throw away your money on betting this year, as you did in 1808, notwithstand. ing the statements of your very respecta ble and well informed correspondents, in whom you have the fullest confidence : for be assurred you have no hetier round of confidence now than you had then, and io tell you the truth, bot quite so much 3 for Ross was then much more respected in Centre county, and I suspect, in Lancaster too, than Heister is now, and betw cen opy- sclves (though I do not wish this to be men- ioned to any other person) much more de- serving of respect. You may rely on it, friend Rilly, that the democrats of Centre county are an obstinate ind stiff-necked race. “We have been do- 10g; our best to move them, but they wii 1ot be moved ; to shake them, but they will not be shaken. . They cannot be warp- :d like you and I. You know you wa mee a very zealous democrat, until you SWAT TErEr NOT e30Car es : found that 1t wae your mte; ost winnerrvitted abuse, I do not hesitate tosub-: other counties distributing intormation in Centre county, to his {iiend the dispositions of the people of Centre! i yrhe was then a tourh Findlay man. to wheel ad counties from 1805 10 1808 (tiuee years thad certainly a good opportunity of beinglus of Gregu, and, 1 Lear very ; 1512—Increased maj rity abou 513—In-{well acquainted with him. | . jdeinocgts will deprive 1s ofuiimiste rh Bk | by jereased majorny in Cernire alone in these 3) I also know Mr. Findlay's secofld son, tow Yad hcigel's son.ip (at "wx years, 431. Increased number of votes)Samucl. 'T know him to be a quict, Was- Pal aif usa bit aud ge a F » 159. M:«Kean county made no returns injsuming, modest boy, incapable of ute NETEREONMGE IRONED ORIG, 1 Htc ha 3 i. hose years. ithe words or sentunents above sited, oripromised too much. The very same office | In 1800'the numbter of taxa! Ted ni EEMe any thing like them. he the has promised, L understand, w mope than i was 1,341 5 Iu 1807 it was 158. Jucrease| Believing the above statement in the In-! half a dozen of us; of course shogld be ¢- iy in seven years 577. Now may we be per-ldependent Republican to be false, and not’ veit succed, some of us must be disappoin. : 4 mitted to ask Mr. Stiles if it sppears solbeing ashamed to defend the innucent {rom ted, It secins he has visited a number of a : ‘the offices in ithe same way ; bat I doubt VEY much the hardened democrats wil set all his ploceea dings aside. Phe misery is, my ASH : fiend, that in iis county, and Iam wiormed, in the adjoining counties; the Duich are our mest deermned opposers. They ALG mostly soll democrats— there is no twistg them. There are a good many of thei who came from Berks county, and, in gen + eryl, these are Uwe most viciously Opposed to Heister. YWhen we try to bring them over by ennmerating bis many virtues ang greatgaalifications, they sneer at us, ang reply that they know him better than we tdo — To be plain with you, my friend, they ‘know hh too well 4 n | 1begin to wish from my very soi! that thad stuck with the democrats, and so does 1c most of us who have tuened lately. We could pave gone back when the old- ischool rornes ay Pith elphia destroye four Liopes, and i iy ‘ thy casing off Mr. Greggs but they assur. ed us that Hetmer wonld surely succeed. That all tire Germans would vote for him, bility and information also, no doubt, on an thai so would the federvalists to a man, jd hat the senator from Berks, who is a fed. 1eralist, had, ia tig“ name of all the’ rest, pledged the whol body, As to the Dutch, we hase lost all confidence in thems fort is said, aud Tam afeaid with too mnch truth, that many oi is own neighbns are Wpns- ed to him - That it is becoming very doubtful whether he wiil have a majority in his cwn county 5 and that it is pretty Cet tain the aeighboring counties will give lrge majorities against him, It is also ath med that many of Lis own near relati- ons, in his own and the adjoining countics, are zealously oppased to nm. The demo- icrats hore say, that old Gabriel Heister, jh his whole family connection, sure de- very much against Heister, Indeed fy, Cided.y in favor of Fhiitay. This surly friends, though very vociferous, were ne f2U8% SIL; and there was a son-in-law of John Ticister in Bellefonte some weeks ago As to tiie fi deralists—I im afraid that they ave driving mote democrats from us than we will cata by them. | find there are many federansis over the msuivains, and in the norirern parts of the soute, who are bitter agav tus. The Luzerne federal papers handing Heister very ronghly.——So is Scuil’s federal paper in Pittsburg, and some others also 1p other places. We hear that James Rass, and all his fiends, are decid- ediy opprscd to un, They can never fore give Leib and Dune lor the rancorous a- buse which they poured out against the weds, and Ross, si [oimer occasions. Indeed, sir, Leib and Duare are very much hated by the democrats—detested by many of the federalists, and respected, at this time, by none. Aud to be plain with you Billy, lor friends ought to speak to cach otzt with sincerity, your advocating the cause of Heister is doing more hurt than good. There is also one Stiles in Philadeiphia, who they say is an English tory, that is doing Lim no great kindness by bis ardent zeal. There is asso one Gotz in Reading, Wyeth of Harrisburg, and a federal editor in York, Carlisle & Greens burg, and several others of the sume kind, whose silence would be of more usc than their scrvices, The democrats say, if Heisler was not known hy those geutry ta be of their party, would they display so much fervor to have him clected 7 This is a culling question, Last year, I expected Billy Dickson, of your town, would have fallen in with the oldschool.—1 conceited that he was leaning alittle thae way; hut { find that the old fel- tow’s mind is so petrified with those repub- hcan bakbits and which he learned in his younger days, that there stile hopes of his ever swerving from them. Do you thirk lie might not be bought 2 If he were as quick sighted to bis inte est as vou and seme more of us, he might, The qu:ds and leds, some ten or cleven years ago, tricd to gain hime by ter- OT ‘Choy fued apd imprisoned him, but (hat trade him Worse. 1 then rejoiced at Lis firmness ; but 1 wisii now that he was a fittle mare flexible 1 . friend Billy, that Hetster bad appropriated the overplus 21364, which by the seduction of Leib and Biddle hie sn oolish'y threw 4way upowthe iaxables of Berks and Seheylkill conntics, and jor wiichl vive hing ro tharks— I ¢ay I wish he had anplicd them to the ipuichasing of some few ww: of the domed AR demo -ratic prejudicess
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