Pay, Subsistence and Cloathing. 1792, 270,374 1793. 7*8.875 Difference Total fared dob. 624,607 This was the annual £aving he proposed. In hit calculation, he remarked, he ntg le&ed the bounty held out to the 1600 men yet to be enlitled. A* he was count ing by tens and hundred* of thousands, this furn he did not think worth attending to. He concluded, that the decision of this question would speak the sense of the house in regard to the exilting fylltm, and whether there was in the government a fcriousdefirc to obtain permanent peace, to defend the frontier effc&ually, and to provide, without refoiting to new taxes or loans, for the regular and speedy re dutlion of the public debt.—An objedl which seems to be highly desired by the Secretary of the Trealuty, and all other disinterested citizens thioughout the union. Mi . Hartley declared himfelf againfl: the object of the motion. He was of o pinion that at this time, when a treaty of peace was depending, it would be highly \ dangerous to adopt any step for reducing our military eftabli(hment. The president he said, appeared to him to have acted with the greatest economy in organizing the forces he was empowered to raise. He stated the difficulty of raiting troops in this country, and again infilled on the impolicy of djlranding those enlisted at this critiqdl period. A refpeftalsle force kept up, might produce peace by fpiing, and in that cafe no ope would regret the expence of the equipment. The part of the country from which the gentleman who made the motion came, it was true, was not exposed to the incur sions of the Indians but this was, by no means the cafe in other paits of the Unit ed States. He then adverted to Mr. Steel's argu ments to prove" regular troops were unequal to a cdriteft with Indians. There was no instance in which, he answered, a body of regular troops had beer, beaten by an equal number of Indians. The ar my in the campaign of 1791 was undisci plined j the only regiment properly dis ciplined at the time of Geheral St. Clair's defeat was not in the'engagement ; this instance therefore of the Indians' success ihould net, he conceived, be brought in to view as a proof of the inefficacy of re gular troops in such a war. It was evi dent that the troops on the frontiers this season had afforded very effectual protec tion to the fiontiers of Pennsylvania and Virginia. He dwelt on the impropriety of em ploying the militia on this service; the dis tress that the loss of a considerable body of heads of families in a diftrift would occailon was too serious an evil to think light of. Men enliftiug as regulars, on the other hand, were chiefly adventurers and tingle men, the loss of whom would be much less felt. Mr. Parker rose in favor of the motion. He adverted to the effects produced by an encreafe of the (landing forces of this country; it immediately occasioned a pro portional inereafe of the armies of our ealous neighbours to the North and South'. He mentioned a paper that was some time since read in the House, a mes sage or talk from Lord Dorchester to the Indians; —in it they were told that Prince Edward, a son of their friend the great King, had arrived with a chosen band of warriors to protest them. The Indians, Jie said, had a higher idea of the military protedlion of the Biitifh, and would pre fer it to ours. The Bi itifh were better acquainted with the effect of military pa rade on the Indians, and better able with their veteian ttoops to take advantage of those feelings. Every effort of outs to enhance our military reputation, by an encreafe of forces, would be followed by a finylar Jlep in the Biitifh colony ; and we ftiould, in the end, only make war on our finances. Theßritifh, he dated, were better able to afford to make a perpetual {hew of military : it was more confident with the fpitit of their political indituti ons, 'A similar system was not well a dapted to the sentiments of the people here, where citizen-soldiers were ready to turn out for something substantial only. Before this last war with the Indians, depredations had no doubt been made by them on our territory, and by our people on theirs, but nothing serious had occur red till the war was begun. He approved of garrisoning those pods that could afford (helter to the inhabit ants of the frontiers in c-ife of attack ; but did not think regular troops adequate to any other talk in an Indian war. He infilled on the opinion, that the militia alone were equal to undertake an offenfive war against the Indians. 458,501 Mr. Fitzfimons firft spoke of the im portance of the question. It strikes at a total alteration of the fyllera adopted to preserve peace and protest our frontier citizens. He was not of opinion that those citizens on the frontiers were Ibtef to protest the country. The light which, would be thrown on the fubjeft il> the couife of the debate, he expe&ed, would determine the point. He hoped the question would be amply di(cuffed ; but in the mean time he was sorry, he said, to fee an attempt made to influence the opinions of metnbers by llatements and Calculations, which he imagined were by no means accurate. He mentioned an instance in which they had been placed in such a point of view as might make an improper impreflion. The gentleman dated that the war had cod the Union upwards of 3,545,000 dollars. Mr. Steele said in explanation, that he had afterted, that sum had already been appropriated or was called for. Mr. Fitzfimens said the money appro priated was not all expended, and that asked for was dill in the power of the House to grant or not. He could not positively fay, at firft view of the gentle man's calculations, whether they were all equally erroneous; but this instance, he conceived, was not much in favor of his accuracy. Circumstances might very well account for a difference in the expence of an army ; troops near Fort Wafhingtpp could not be provided at the fame rate as in more populous parts of the dates.— The depending treaty of peace, he de clared, raised a great objc&ion in his mind to the objedt of the motion. If on consideration, however, it should appear that the frontiers could be better defended without regulars, and a valuable saving made, he should be in favor of the mo tion. He reminded the gentleman, that when he quoted the amount of the saving he proposed, he had forgot to take into view the expence of the five Kentucky expeditions. • Mr. Steele said he had mentioned that these might each cost 30,000 dollars. Mr. White expressed his dislike to re gular {landing fotces, and that he wiflied more use had been made of the militia a gainil the Indians; yet he was averse to a reduction, unless a more effe&ual plan of defence was offered as a substitute to that now in use. It was moved to refer the motion to a committee of the whole. Mr. Steele expressed his wi(h to fee th< obje£t of the motion difcniTed in commit tee. He £aid something on the accuracy of his statements, which had been quef-- tioned, and again mentioned the source from which they were drawn. Mr. Williamfon, as a proof of the ef ficacy of militia in opposition to the In dians, cited the instance of Major Adair's refinance to a body greatly superior in numbers. Mr. Smith, S. C. declared himfelJCa gainft the objefl of the resolution. The President, he said, had the power to dis band any part of the army, when thei: service was no longer wanted ; and his confidence in the President (a feeling which, from the unanimous.vote of te-e ---le&ion, he had recently recewed, feetned to be very prevalent) led him to feel well fatisfied that they would not be kept in service unnecessarily one moment. Mr. Dayton next rose. He said he was in favor of referring the motion to a committee of the whole House. He should not, he declared, have risen, if he had not heard from the two members from North-Carolina, the ftrangeftj per version of argument, and the mod ertra ordinary kind of rcafoning he ever re membered to have heard. The member who spoke tirlt, from North-Carolina, de cried every idea of energy and efficiency in regular disciplined troops, considering them not only inefficient, but contempti ble, when employed agamft Indians, and to confirm his aflertion had instanced the expedition and defeat under General St. Clair, when it was well known that there were not in fafi two companies of regular disciplined infantry in the army of that General. The other member had as ex 252 travag-antly'commended tne mck- u . , ; and extolled them for, heir effi ciency and success in Indian warfare, o which Major Adair, in a late ren <= ount " with afuperior body of savages, had, he said, furnirtied an evidence. In answer to this, Mr. D. was com pelled to remark, what he fliould olhtr wile never have done, that the affair al luded to, made on his mind a very dif ferent impression, and led to a conclusion diredlly contrary to that which the gen tleman had drawn fiom it—rhe major, had unquestionably been surprized, and as i unquestionably been beaten, and fuffered the capture of alniolt all his horses and other property in his camp; but what he conceived to bellill woi fe, it appeared that at the commence nient of the acftion, about half of his men deserted him,and secured them selves within the gairifon. Thisin ftance of the prowess of irregulars fele»ftcd by the N.C. member lofup port his arguments would, Mr.Day ton believed, be found upon enqui ry to be an unfortunate one. As he was upon the floor, Mr. Dayton observed, that he could not refrain from taking some further notice of the laboured speech which the house had just heard from the | mover of the proposition under con. (ideration. He should, he said, be short, for no member could be sup posed to Le prepared to answer a speech which certainly no one could have expe<3ed to have heard within thele walls ; but as he thought it probable such another one would never again be uttered there, he could not omit a remark or two upon it. It was admirably calcu lated, and would seem to have been designed, to prejudice the people of the United States against the whole adminiflration of the government. It would donbtlefs be recollected that but a few days ago, this very gentleman was ftrenuoully contend ing for propriety, decorum and de cency in debate, which he complain ed was not observed by gentlemen who were opposed to the report of the committee on the failure of the western expedition ; liotwithlland ing this, not content with levelling the mult unbounded censure againlt the head of the war department, he had lavished the molt virulent abule upon the President of the United States particularly, and upon a large majority of both lioilfes of Congrels. The member had produced a va riety of arithmetical Itaiements and calculations, the accuracy and truth of which not only had been questi oned, but denied by other members who had replied to him. One thing Mr. Dayton said he could not avoid remarking, which was that that gentleman had presented as unac countablc and mysterious, the en creafed appropriations for the war department for 91, 92, and 93, as if it was in any wife ft range, that 2eoo men should require more ordnance, hof'pital and quarter-master's stores than 1000, or that jooo men should require more than them both. Yet from flatements of that nature, the gentleman affected to believe, and boldly declared that there mult be the grofl'eft abuses in the adminis tration. If the annual encreafe of our expences for protetJling the frontiers, deserved the censure that had been To liberally bestowed, it ought to fall diretftly oil the legis lature who, Mr. Dayton said, had directed it by their Jaws, and not upon the executive who were mere ly the instrument to carry those laws into effetft. So much for the speech, but with refpeifl to the mo tion which called for a very differ ent answer, and more mature consi deration, he should onJy add, that however he might favor a reduction of our military establishment, if the queilion stood upon its own merits alone, unconnected with some re cent circumstances, he should think it his duty to oppose the nteafureat the present, as it might tend I6ein barrafs the executive in their ptir fuits and profpecfts of pacification, and because he well knew it to be the teniper of the i ndians, and indeed of every other people,to rife in their de mands in the fame proportion that their treating enemy quieted their fears & leflened their danger. If our establish ment was determined to be leflened, It would be known to the savages before the treaty, —in confequeuc of which, h« did not doubt, they would become more extravagant and insolent in their terms r and that of course what was now recom mended as an (Economical saving to the public, would eventually prove to be pio fufion in the extreme. Mr. Wadl'worth expreflld himfelf in a few words againll the resolution. Mr. Ames did justice to the gentle man's industry in the colleiiion of mate rials in support of his motion. An oppor tunity, he hoped would be given, to go over the giound he had f<> ably traversed* He fa id something of the neceflity of (lability in the measures of every govern ment ; on the importance of the question which the fate of the resolution was to de cide, and hoped it would meet an ample difcuflion. The motion for referring the refutation to a committee of the whole was agreed to, and Wednesday was appointed to take it up. Adjourned. 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Philadelphia, November 20, 2792. THE Stockholders of the Bank of the United States are hereby informed, that according to the ilatute of incorporation, a general elf&joa for twenty-five Dirett<»rs will be held at the Bank ef the United States, in the city of Philadelphia, on Mouday the seventh day of January next, at ten o'cock in the forenoon. And ptirfuan to the clevtnth fc&ron of the Bye-Laws,the Stockholders of the fa id Bank are hereby'notificd to assemble in general meeting at the lame place;on Tuesday the eighthday 01 January uexi, at five o'clock in the evening. By order of the President and Directors, JOHN KF.AN, Gaftiier. To the Public. 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