tttt ottije tUlUtCti and Daily - By John Fenno, N°- 176.6.J FOR SALE, A House and U elegant Building Lots in German town. ON. Monday the 14th ioftant at 30' clock P. M. will be fold by public au£ion on the pr«mi fes. The firft House in the village of Germantown fit u a ted on the right hand fide of the Road leading from Philadelphia. Also i\ building lots adjoining the fame, each containing jo teet on front on the Germantown road, and extending 400 feet on depth. N. B. A plan of the above lots maybe f«en pre- Tiom to the day of Tale by applying to - " too rMAN at (Jo. Auctioneers May 7. ' Taken up on the sth initant, Two Strayed Horfcs, the one a black with a Speck in one of his eyes, the other a bright bay both of them long manes and tails, ft is fup pol'cd they were caught trespassing on some other place, as they had both of them long bulhes faf tened t» their talis, and were much spent with running when tliey were taken up. Whoever iias lojt them is desired t» eome and«prove pio pertv, pay charges and take them away. Enquire at No. 88 Spruce-street. may 7. dtf Forty Dollars Reward. RAN AWaY, on the of Arril, a Negro Man, named Gl fgrtv, perhaps he may pass hy the name of Ghfgaw Lec, or may change )ii9 name ; he is a -out thirty one ye;rs of age, near'y fir feet high, has a fear in the upper part of his un der lip, a small part being bitten out between the middle and the corner of his mouth (I believe on the right fid< ), his left hand has be n very fore, and was so at the tine he ran away, by being burnt some time pall : he is a Sout, strong fellow, and Jus been employed at a saw mill a few years: he went away in company with a negro woman of Mr. Joshua Lingoe, of this county. It is supposed they are gone into Delaware State. Any person that secures said Negfo Man in any gaol, that the . fubfciiber shall get him again, (hall receive the above reward. £SME BAYLY. ,Stats of Maryland, 7 Somcrfet County, april 10. J may 4 —4W ** no net. THREE Certificates of Si* Per Cent. Deferred Debt of the United Slates ot the fallowing Jefcriptlon, via —No. 10033, 10034, and 10035, for 5000 dollars each, dated Bth May, 1797, and ilan»ingon the books of theTreafury of the Uni ted States, in the name of Benjamin Waddington, <jf Lanover Houfe,near \bergavenney in England, iEfq. have been loa by the capture of the ship Uac ihus, from hence to London, in June lad.—This, therefore notifies those whom it may concern, that application will be made at the Treasury of the D« jiited States for a renewal of the fame. Waddington £s° Harwood. march iz §6w ' ~~ Ls/tivbh U Ttila DAT, ; 1 Jprom on hoard the (hip Alex nder, capt. Brown, from Jacquemel, at Wilcoeks' wharf, about I £O,OOO wt. of fine Green Coffee ! in hoglheads, barrels and bags For Sale—aoplj to : John Whitejides & So, WHO HAS ON HAND, Claret of the firft quality, in cases . april §6t Manchester Goods. Received by the te- J veral trunks, suitable for the prifent and ap proaching faafon, which will be fold very low for cash or on a fiiort credit, viz. 7-8 and 9-8 Printed Calicoes * Fancy Waiftcoating in Mars illes, &e. Cotton and silk and cojton Huficry, Pantaloons, &c. A variety of (Englilh) UmVcllas 1 Nankeens, cotton Hhkfj. Shoe binding, Set. N. B. A cafe of printed Muflmets, and a trunk of Pullicat Bangalore Handkerchiefs, entitled to ( drawback, aad very suitable for the Weft-Indies. \ Apply No. 35 South Wat«r and comer of Cbef- s nut street. 41110. 11—$iw r| NewTeaWarehouse. No. 39, South Front Street, OPPOSITE POST-OFFICE. THE Subscriber rcfpe&fully acquaintshcrfricads and the public, that {he has opened a Store for thefaleof all kinds of teas, imported in the late ® arrival? at Bollon and Philadelphia, (asunder) and '■ which file is determined to fell on rcafonable terms. ■ It will be herconftant endeavour to give fitisfaflion S to those who please to favor her with their cullotn. Country lien s will fijd it their advantage to deal wi, h her, as (he can at a moment's notice aflbrt ' them any quantity wanted,and will allowareafon ?J)le credit on approved notes. Imperial, Hyson, Young Hyson, Souchong, Hyson Skin, and Bohea—Alfo, Coffee and Loaf Sugar for sale. Sarah Eaton. April n s&th 6w N O T I G ,E. THE Partnrrfhip of the fubferibers, tradin™ tin der the firm of PAXSON O" RICHARD SON, was diffolv«d on the sixth of the third mofith last, by mutu 1 consent. All persons indebted thereto are earnestly requeftcd to make payment ; and those that have any demands against the fame, are desired to present their accounts for settlement Ip either of thefubferibers. Isaac Paxjon, Nathaniel Richard/on. Philadelphia, 4th mo. 3d, 1798. ISAAC~PAXSON, a Continues to carry 011 the bulinefs at the usual ,place, No. 10, South Third street, where.he has g t on hand a large afTortment of Ironmongery, Sad- t <ilery, Cutlery Jind Brass Wares, which he wi'lA.ll wholsfaleor retail, on low terms, for calh or ths lifual credit. He expe&s to receive by the fir'l , veOels from London, Bristol, Liverpool and Hull, . a a large addition to his present afTortment; and ' ''■ will execute with pumftnality and care iny orders ua from he former customers, and his friends in gen- w ' eral. liw^w ' ' A Country Seat. TO BE LET for the summer season or by the year, the greattr part rf a large House, in ~ a high, healthy (itoation, above the eight mile (tone, on the Gfrmantown road (occupied only by Tl ft newly married couple)—with ftablingand con renience for keeping a carriage. For further par titulars, enquire ot Caspar W. Haines, in Ger mantown, or the fubferiber, on the premises. HEZEKIAH huntsman. may 1. ftawjw I a PHILADELPHIA: TUESDAY EVENING, MAT 8, 1798. Military Colours. j4t C. GULLAGER's Portrait and Ornamental Painting Rooms, No. so, South Fourth, next to Chefnut street, „ oppolite the Friends' Mooting. T)AINTING on silks for Military and other or )ts A namental purposes (in a manner pec«4»r to an himfelt) durable, net to be ii jured by the weather, a which for elegance of design, truth an I beauty of colouriw, reatnrfs and exccation, has not been equalled by George Rojjjr and Co. FLAGS and DRUMS Furniftied with all poflible dilpatqh, on themoft rcafonable terms. Ornamental Painting, Signs, Fire Buck a ets, Cornices, &c. &c. executed in (tile (net that superb stile of modern elegance petnliar to G- R ) but in a workman like manner, peculiar to an ar- H tift mailer of hi? prolefiion. Mr. Gullager, from a number of year's expe rienct in Europe and this country, flatters himfelf that profcflional talents, punctuality, and reafon er able demands, will meet the entire approbation of those gentlemen who wi 1 please to c II at hirPaint ing Rooms. §6w may 5. Military Colours, PAINTED ON SII,K— by 0 George Rutter & Co. [; Portrait and Ornamental Painters, TN a flile whioh will. ndo re be hardftiips of the X weather without injury, and whu:h for ne?.tnefs e and exadlitude of colouring cannot befurpaifed in n this city. FLAGS and DRUMS it Furnished with dispatch, ©n th« moll moderate d terms. * Portraits, Ornamental Paintings, Signs, J fire buckets, &c. accomplilhed in that fupcb llilc of modern elegance, which, Mr. Rb ttr pledges e himfell from 20 years experience iu this city will e meet the entire approbation of his friends anJ the public. In the .Military Ljne, A variety of fptcimcn's riVay lie fcen at their Painting Room, Norris'sCoiirt, back of the Naw Library. 1 may 3 f!6w r • Robert Field, MINIATURE PAINTER, , Ha< removed t>> No. ro6, Walnut street, be , tween fourth and Filth streets. ■ ' mav 1. dtw ; NOVICE. A S Wednesday the ninth instant is appointed ■F\ by the Prslident of the United States, as a day of Solemn Humiliation, Fading and P rj y? r > Notice is hereby given, that the Bank of Penrifylvai»ia will be (hut on 1 hat day, and , that all payments which then become due at , Bank, rna't be made on the day preceeding; the Board of Direilnrs will meet'on Tuesday the eighth instant, for the purpose of Discount ing and Notes offered for lifcount must there- 1 fore be sent in, the Vondaj*' preceeding. Bji order of the Beard JON. SMITH, Cajhier. ] "13V 3- dtß 1 A Premium of 100 Dollars \ WILL be paid by the Bat)k of Pennfylva- ] nia, for such Flan of a Banking accompanied with feitions and as may j Kr Sy tne mi , e3lor«. The building is ; ] not intended to exceed 60 feet front, or 100 feet i in depth, and to be so planned a« to admit of its ! ( being made fire proof. It is requeued that the I plans may* be fen* to the Cashier of the Bank, pre vious to the fixft of Jupenext. a rril 19 tuthsti Je | In the Brig Benjamin Fran klin, from t Bourdeaux, « \ AND FOR SALB BY THE SUBSCRIBER , f Claret in caiks White wine in half calks Sweet oil of afuperior quality in boses a,nd balkets j Lunelle "n Santerne ( . Macarty, and ( WlE " In Cafet " ' Medoc J Thomas Murgatroyd, , No. 11, WalndtStreet. <> c WHO HAS ON HAND, . Bourdeaux Brandy in pipes } Intitled Irish market 7 ( to Medoc, and Sau'erne j m< * mca c 8 ,5 drawback 1 Sherry wide in pipesan J quarter calks Rota q Pimento in bags , 0 fwo trunks of Umbrellas, and n About 4000 bulhels 1 iverpool Salt. n "'"•■ ft _ tnw&ftr b ox beef: * ; 100 Barrels of Beef of bell quality, put b 50 half Barrels J tip with care for long voyages, n ico Barrels of" Conneiflicut 1 ork. n so Barrels of Conneilifcut Tongues. , d WINES. 35 Pipes qf Madeira Wine. [ l jo Pipes of Port. 30 half Calks of Sherry. 30 Calks of Lisbon. Cafes of French Claret, of excellent 3 ' quality. 800 Bane's of Scraped FLOUR, ® lOC Barrels of Condemned, and *q Bp*es of best Durham Mustard. foa SALE LV John Skyria m FOR SALE, p Two three story Brick HOuses f e ' With convenient stores, wharf, &c. fituateon bi Water ftredt, between Mulberry an J SafTafras di Streets, containing in front on Water street sis- m ftet, and containing that breadth eall- pr \yard ninety-five feet, then widening to the ga south thirteen feet fix inches. These houses lei have the convenience of a put)l';c alfty adj.iin- "l^l ing an the north fide, and area very defirablefit- wi uatinn for a a merchant, flour f»£lor, or others nit who may have occasion for florage of goods, inl This property will be fold oh very reasonable terms for cash. For further information apply thi to the printer. 0 f a P ! S mAwtf «ic For Sale, ~ ~ rbesargoofthebrigAmericanfromLaguira, bu CONSISTING OF Ca'accas Cocoa. *ri Henry Philip, °w No. ill, Ssuth Fcutfh Street. the a P nl s -5 <5 h,r CONGRESS. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. HS, WIINISDJI, *P*JL ij. C » [ ' f Concluded from yef/enlat's Gazette-1 «*- Mr. Harper callod for tTie order of the to day on the bill for establishing an executive J er > department, to be denominated The Depart ' ° ment of the Navy. The house accordingly went as into a committee of the whole on this bill, and rose without making any amendment in the bill; but upon the queltion in the houfa ioft of its palling to a third reading, Mr. Gallatin said, he had not proposed k_ any amendment to this bill in the committee hat the whole, because what,ht? had to fey up t j on it, would go against the principle ot the ar _ bill. He did not think it necertary to eftab iifh a Navy Department. He did not suppose pe- our army and navy were at present so large as "elf to require two separate departments. If the >n- business was so much increased as the persons of at present employed could not do it, they □t- might be increased. Nor did he believe with some gentlemen that such an institution would - produce economy. On the contrary, lie al ways found that the increase of offises, was theincreafe of '.xpence. Some time ago, it was said that great economy would arise from appointing a Purveyor of Supplies ; but he had seen, from the time of this establishment, be a great and confiant increase of expence in ess everything which relates to fup,plies Not in feeing the necessity of it, therefore, he should vote again ft it, except good reason should be given for it; for he believed, the moment a te department of this kind was eftabliHied, the head of it would wi/h to make it of as great importance as possible by endea'/qurs to ex ' tend the object of his fuperintendance. He called for the yeas and nays upon the question, which were agreed to be taken.- " Mr. J. Williams did not feeldifpofed to vote for this bill. It appeared to l>ipi that the Secretary of War,with officers under hint, would be fufficient for the marfa'gemViit of ir our naval concerns also. It was some time w after the constitution was framed, beforp the War Department was established' Whenever _ an office was established, something was al ways found for it to do. Soon after the War De partment was established, we had an Indian war, and after that Indian war ceafed,another establishment was made under the name of the Accountant's Office. If the business was in creased, new clerks might be employed, but - he (hould be againlt any new department. If we were engaged in hostilities, and our naval d power, of course increased, such an eftablilh is ment might be necelfary ; but at present he d did not think it necefTary.nor did he think our k revenue equal to the support of a navy which d (hould require such an efl.abliftiment to take it care of it. Ifthisoffice was to superintend ; the construCtion of veifels, performs acquainted y with this business, might be employed under the Secretary as War. The present expence of the War Department was 18,150 dollars a year, and though there would not be much to do in this new office, he supposed the » pence would nut 'fco much lets, and bcfides Congress would be importuned from session to session to increase our naval force. Mr. W. said he was desirous of making every defence - for our country, yet he wished to keep down our expences as much as pollible ; tfxjrcum -1 fiances ciflcd for gohrg igniter into the bufi- 1 s | ness of the navy, he fliould not object to it. 1 Mr. Sewai.l said, when the house was 1 »confideriug any subject relative to the encreafe' 1 e ' of the navy, complaints were made of the 1 enormous expences, aild of the little refpon- 1 Ability which attends the business, and when ; it has been said that the greatness of the ex pence might have aril'en from a want of knowledge in the persons who had the care of ; the business, it was said that defect to ; be remedied. This department is intended to do that, and by the expence of a few hun- I ! dreds of dollars, he had no doubt thousands I would be saved. When talking about vefrels, » it was complained that too great an expense 1 was incurred on this objed ; now it is laid < there is no object for ths proposed officer to 1 attend to ; but the gentleman from New- I V oik (Mr. Williams) was afraid tf thisoffice c was eltabliflied, it would he the means of 111- a ♦creasing the navy. This certainly could nut t be done contrary to the will of Congress. ( He thought there were obvious realotis for I . the ellablifhment of this deparrment. It was t well known that an officer might be well ac- f quainted with the bulinefs of the array, with- v out knowing any thing about a navy, and a, v man employed at the head of such f ment, ought to have some knowledge of the t bulinefs committed to his care. M°r. S. said. • however well the present Secretary of War h might be acquainted with army concerns, he t] believed he was not conversant with naval C matters. In consequence of this, he had a h number of agents employed under him. In- <r deed the War Department had so much -bu.fi- ci ness on its hands, as not to be able to pay a C fufficient attention to our naval ertabliffiment. al He therefore believed it jvas necelfary to make b this new establishment, elpecially as the Naval 11; Department was likely to be considerably al augmented. w Mr. S. Smith believed, after all the ftru"-- hi gles which had been made 011 ih:s subject, °it b would at length be foynd necelfary for the ar United States seriously to turn their attention ni to the establishment of an efficint naval force, <r ( and the sooner gentlemen could bring their in minds to this, the better it would be for the ti< general good. If this proposition had been in brought forward at the commencement of the ce session, he should have thought itunnecelTary ; nc but from the increase which had been made cli during this session, bethought the establish- Si ment proper. 950,000 dollars had been ap- 011 propriated tor providing 12 vessels.a numberof ty gallies were alio contemplated,a (hip of war or [I (chooner, it appears has been-built on the be -lakes, and some gallies on the rivers. These, ch with the frigates and cutters,form aneftablifh- on ment which will require a naval man to htuer- th intend it. An expenditure ot twomillions of de K !lC f "PP Q ' cd '» would be authorized be this session ; and a man knowing fomethin<* (he of naval architecture, will be abLe to save ; more in the course of this year to the United fed States, than will pay ten years of the expences to ot this office. A merchant going into the acc building of veCTels, without a knowledge of ant the business, will find the truth of this fait. int. n.e great expenditure attending the building Th of the frigates, he supposed, had been chiefly owing to the want of such an establishment as b.ll the present. The jentleman from New-York jwh had ftatei the expence of the War Depart. pui ment at 18,250' dollars ; but one half of that expence was incurred in the office of the Ac ;S. countant of the War Department, and as there would be no need of a new Accountant, the expence could (lot be doubled. The. duties of the War Department arejgr'eatly increased, and might be farther i)icr«£fed do he ring the present session ; and an g)CM>f»imire ive of the kind proposed nYimm Mvv the thawing «- away of thousands of dollai j. -v' '* T*' :nt Mr. M acon said the favour ill, of this bill were derived fro-.ri.-a want tff -know in ledge of naval affairs in the War DcpftHment. rfe He thought that might be supplied Without the establishment of a new department ; but ed he believed the building of the frigates had ;ee lnoftly been carried on under the direction of , p- the captains who were tp hjjve the coiftmand he of them. More clerks had been added to the | b- War Department, in consideration of the bull- I >fe ness which the navy had occaiioned. He be- i as lie ved the more officers were appointed, the' he more money would be expended, ns Mr. Otis said, the gentleman from New- ' ey York-had oppoled this billon different ground th from the gentleman from Pennsylvania. He : Id did pot make any reply to the gentluman from i il- Pennsylvania, because he expected oppolition as from him and some others, to every measure it which had the defence of the country for ni their object; and as the session was drawing he to a close; he thought it belt to have as little it, debate as possible, and that the foeiner the in question was taken, th o better; but when he ot heard a gentleman life in oppolition to it,uip ld on whole support he calculated, he was ap je prehenlive 1 eft it might have an effeit upon a other persons on whose support healfo relied, lie The gentleman from New-York seemed to i at apprehend foms new and heavy expence Was to be incurred, and that some greater caution le was now necelfary than heretofore. What 11, saving, then, does he mgan to make by op posing the eltabiiffiiiient of this office ! Since to lie iuppofes the fame clerks v ill be ftiffijient, it it will only be the salary of the chief officer, 11, which Mr. O. Cippofed would be 3,500 dol ot larS ; a greater saving than which would be le made by such a parson in every, ship built or le purchased. Taking the expence of our naval :r establishment at one million dollars a year, it /»■ wouM only be an expence of one third per cent, which every one mult allow was a mere ;n trifle to have the money of the public well ;r expended. The Cervices of the War and le Naval Departments were, he said, perfectly 1- diltincf. The duties of the War Department it became every day more arduous, and, what- If ever gentlemen may think, they inuft become tl more so. This opposition coming from a friend, he could not suppose it arose from a e bad motive, but merely trom a narrow con ir ception of what is conceived to be the agri h cultural interefl. Agriculture and commerce, e said Mr. O. are twin filters, and cannot, live d separate from each other ; they mull live to d gefherj or expire Stthe fame moment. It was r the duty of gentlemen representing agricul e turifts thus to speak to their conditions. It a was an axiom realized by every politician in h the world. The fa£t was, that every thing t- upon the Naval Department was so s much saved, in which the agricultural part of 0 the country partake very largely. Mr. O. said, it was necelfary even for the e fake of appearances,, to establish aft office of 1 n this kind. We ought not only to prepare - meaftrrrs of definite tiy Tea and land, bin in 1 doing this, we ou"ht to do it in conformity, 1 to the opinion of the European wdrld. He 1 s thought 5,000 dollars a year would be well e expended in purchasing the good opinion of ' 2 the European Nations in this refpect,and par- I t; cirla'rly of t ranee. 1 1 hough our Ihite was I 1 at ptefenr that ot n:i infant, it would in time - become that of an Hercules. f f Even if the present (torm (hould blow over, v t and our Naval power fhotjld not be wanted, a > and the tneory of the' gentleman from New- t I \ ork Ihould ovtrconie his theory, the elta - I blilhirvent of this office could at any time be j ( 1 fuppiclied, and the money expended in it n , would be more than saved, by the additional : information and care einploye,d in our Naval n t concerps, as it was a thing impolTible for one ) aian to undertake the bufinefsiif the Warand e ■ Navy Departments. As well might a Mer- I : chant be set to do the business of a l.awyer ; ti a Law-yer that of a Phylician ; a Carpenter 0 : that of a Bricklayer, or a Bricklayer that ofa i Carpenter. He hoped, therefore, as he had heretofore had the pi ;afure Of voting with h ■ 'he gentleman from New-York, he Ihould al- il so have it on this occasion, whillt gentlemen n who believe that no danger threatens us, and ft , who are disinclined to take measures of de- tl fence, may call the yeas and nays, and find g 1 themselves in a minority as qfual. " b Mr. T. Claibqrk-e never remembered to a' have heard such language as had fallen from it the gentleman lalt up. He laments, said Mr. ti C. that a gentleman who usually voted with d< him (hould dare to think for himfclf. Are to gentlemen's opinions and language thus to be w circumscribed f [Mr. O. explained]. Mr. ai C. continued, the gentleman was willing that 'h all questions Ihould now be taken withput de- ta bate. Does this mean, said he, that there art el majority of members in this house who mud p. always be in the right, ahd a minority al ways in the wrong ? If this be the cafe, they fa had better dismiss tlie minority, and do the he biifinafs themselves. Were not gentlemen ga any longer to exvrefs their difference of opi- th nion > Would this be the way to keep the ■» government together, or to prelerve hanno&y ofl in the country ? If" this were to be the fitua- an tionot things, he should regret it with tears w < in his eyes. He had himlelt no mathematical wi certainty that any opinion»ot his was right ; nor did he think the gentleman from MaSa- thi chuletts ought to expect men to bow to his. wl Such an airumption led to mTchief of a feri- to 011s kind. What I to fay we have a majori- Tf r : t, and , ,tlerefore w e will have no debate. 011 [ he Speaker said no such expression had jei been made use of : if it had he (houfd have mc checked it.] Had it not been for a'll exWi®. be] on of this kiliS, he (hould not have riftfn on rop this question. He wifiied to Jiear every -"Aa deliver his opinion freely. Mr. C. did not' wit believe the bill to be a proper one, and he Ihould therefore vote againlt it. tua Mr. M Dowe ll said, he ihould be oppo- to 1 (ed to the bill, if he had no other objection are to it than that it went to countenance the idea, and according- to the gentleman from Maryland ? and VfaUachu lefts, that this country mi\(t go nvo into the establishment ol a large Naval Power, the Ihe great (aving to be derived from this of- of sice, he underflood to be from savings in the wh< building of velTels, but as the twelve velTels had which were lately voted, are proposed to be yea purrhafed ready b'v.lt, he supposed this rea- and tha* foil did not apply atfirfiftut. If these w;.? Ac- no Intention, therefore (which he milted 1 as there was not) of carrying our Naval Kft-i ---ant, blifhment toany conliderable extent, heCould Ihe fee iso occalion for the creation of this offictr. at|y For if tin's Secretaryof the Navy was appohl* du- ted, lie would alfoie obliged to rely upon o tiire thers, in a gtcal degree, for information! »;ing But the gentleman from Matfilclui/etti (Mr. Otis) fays the eftablidunrnt of this lle 'our partment will operate as a defence to the "*■ country, by favourably imprelling the minds ent. of Foreign coun ries with our force, and he ' lout lamented the loss of the vote of one of h:s but friends, and reflected Upon ail tliofe who dif had frred from him in opinion as being unfrieiid yof ly to himfelf and the country. He could not and discover how the palling of this bill would the 1 defend the country. Ifloundor dey*amati.i nil-. on, could alarm France or subdue her ahiiiesj be- i the gentleman might have some fliare of cre the dit tor his ( rvices; but he fupppft'd »ther I means would be necelfary, if an attack was e\v- , made. But hew could that gentleman think uml | of charging others in the manner he had He done? Js there a man, said he, who votes rom | in opposition to him, who is actuated by t-he tion ; motives with which he has charged them ? aire No man reajl-y believes it. Hut btcaufe mem tor, l>ers do not chuffi to go all lengths with 'ir)g ' him to involve the country in a war which ttle may go the deltruCtion of the liberties of it, the they are thus calumniated. They are willii-.g? ihe to go all rcafonable lengths ; and if there up- were any attack made upon this country ,he ap- j believed they would be much more ready' to pon j meet the enemy than that gentleman, fil ed. i deed, many of (hole members whom h? abu to fed, had been the means of raifint' the Conlti- Was tntion and Government under which lie has .ion the liberty to legislate. Such reflections hat could have noeffect upon those ag.vult whom op- they were made, where their Characters were nee known : they weir meant to produce effect :ih, I*l other parts. He :e"r, calumny had heretofore paired, without again 10l- introducing it. It would not lelferi the cre be dit of thehoufe, if no was heard of it tor in future. val Mr Harper said, the nnval defence , it which this house thought necessary for tfie , per service of the country having been voted, he eve could not agree with tliofe gentlemen who /"ell consider this as a quellion of defence. He ind thought it a queltion of economy, and in this t!y view, he fliould reply to some observations ent, which had been made upon it. at- He believed our Naval defence would be me much more efficacioully and fyeedily pto.vid a ed by means of the proposed eltablifhment, i a than if tne bill was rejected. So far, indeed* >n- it is question of defence, but only collateral ;ri- ly so. The point of view in which this bill ce, Ihould be conlidered, is (imply this, will it ive not effect with more speed and economy the to- marine defence now exiting, as well as that vas contemplated? He himfelf had no doubt as til- tp the fact. Indeed, he would ask the gen- It tleman from N. Carolina, whether, if he in were about to erect a Distillery on his place, ng de would employ his overseer to do it, who, f° ihough l»« might underltajid the business of of his farm very-well, knew noth:->gor building He cerainly would not ; and if this would he be bad policy in an individual, it would be of equally so in a natiori. Besides thr expence ire would be so trifling as enly to amount (as ,n had been fhtedj toone third per cent, though ;ty traders were in the habit of paying 5 ~c r cent. ?Ie to have their business done, ill But it was said, .that if an office of this kind Of was eltabliflied, it would soon create btlfinefs. r- Kutthe billinefS is already Created. We have' as laid he, marine of fifteen fliiirs of nC r '"ii r \ ' le ' <new > was comparatively a final! force, but in the eftablilhmerit of which ■r, we lhall yet expend two million* of dollars, d, and t.ie support oi which will amount at leafi w 7 O * SO0 > 000 dollars annually. When the i vv ar Department was firit eltabliflied, th-ob* >e of its care was not, he believed, ofeciual it magnitude. 1 at These two departments, Mr. H. said, had al no connexion with each other. No nation was ie without two such departments, and our own ,d j experience had (hewn the want of a Nai.,- r- Department. Therefore economy, the pruc ; tjee of individuals, the common pradlce of ~r orht r nations, and our own experience concur a i n fnpport of this bill. £ i i Mr 'i K j Y 1 LL , IA , MS w « re ady to acknow h ledge he did not believe it 'could ever be the 1- interelloi this country to go into die ertablifli- I, went of a large naval power, and therefore hi d Ihould not be in ravour of the present bill on that ground. Nor did he think there wasanv d gpodreafon tordividuig the miliiarv and naval business except there was more than could be „ attended to by the present efhblilhment R„t " n it was said the bnhnefs was of a different na ■. ture, and therefore it ought to be in feparatt h departments, as one man cannot be fujinofed e to uaderlfand both concerns. That objection e would apply toanj- of the other departments ' ru le of dividing btifinef^- t lliall be adopted, we (hull get men of inferior ~ p| C y n°,! w^ n Hie government was t eltabliflied, it was thought that a War De l partment would be equal to the military and . naval concerns of this country. But it was i laid a navy was not then thought of - it w ., - I"*wever doubtless thought of when'th- sri , gates were ordered to be built, and it was not then gone into. It was however said that • much money had been loft, for want of an ' °ft c ° r r 't this kind. This was mere assertion and it was by no means clear that the business ; would be done better with fueh an officer than [ without hinu But it was said it was necessary to go into this measure for the fake of appearances To whom are these appearances to be made > Not to our own people, but to European nations Ihe gentlemkn from Massachusetts fays we ought to adopt their opinion upon this sub J - V r eWC(l U , P ° ! ' c >' of the molt fatal of any other to tnis counirv He believed that the less we had to do w-th Eh politics, and their mode of adminff i -tVatlen, the better. The only object i„ view ' • witJuhat Hdtjfe ought to be the intcreft of riii.r own country. What, said he, is the si tuation of those countries which Juve -onein to the eflablifhment of large navies > Tfiev are involved in debt which they neves can and nevpr will pay. 1 ' ' Mr. W. said, \i lien he conlidered that al mod everyday some new conltriiCTioli w „ e j" ther given to tlte conftit.ition, or some modi of admmiftermg the government altered • when they were told, that though such a thine had been understood so a ltd so for two or three years, it would bear a different conduction" and now, when he saw they were about [VclumM XIIE
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