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REV. DAVID WKINNEY,
Pittsburgh, PA
Reply of the Presbytery of Allegheny City to
the published Remonstrance against ac
cepting the Resignation of the Rev William
h. Plumer, D. D., us Pastor of the Central
Church of Allegheny City.
The publication of the Remonstrance
presented to the Presbytery of Allegheny
City, on the 19th of September last, by
the Central Church of Allegheny City
against the aeceptiince of the resignation of
its pastor, Rev. Writ. S. Plumer,_D. D., is
the occasion for the issuing of this reply
in this public and formal manner, The
proper method fur that church to have pur
sued, according to Presbyterian law and
usage, if dissatisfied , with the course of this
Presbytery, would have been to have ap
pealed to the higher judicatories of the
Church. And if the Remonstrance had
•
only been circulated in this vicinity; where
most of the facts in this ease are so well
known, no mention of it would have been
necessary from P'resb'ytery. But since dila
document most probably will find its way
to distant parts of' the Church and the
country, where the people' tray not be fa
miliar with the history of the case, a proper
regard for our own reputation, and the in
teresta of truth and righteousness, seems to
detnaird this answer.
And that a elear'statethent of the whole
proceedings may' be made; a brief history
of the various' step's in the progress
of this remarkable' case may well be pre
sented,:before Meeting and refuting the
charges made against Presbytery by the
Remonstrants. This is the more necessary
because of the very defective and wonder
fully biassed presentation of facts and doc
uments in the paper which calls for this
rejoinder. ,
The difficulties in the Central Presbyte
rian church of Allegheny City were for
mally brought before this, Presbytery, for
the first time, at a meeting held on the
10th day of last June, by a' Memorial
sinned by members and pew-holders of that
church. Among theie were one of the
Elders, nearly all of the Trustees t and a
large proportion of those who had .been con
nected with that church from its first or
ganization. The Memorial set forth that
the church was greatly disturbed because of
the conduct of their pastor ,with respect to
the unhappy and threatenincs c' state of our
country. It was, declare by the memorial
ists that the pastor, had never expressed
any opposition to the rebellion or any. ;sym
pathy with our Government in the, efforts
made for its suppreesioll—that be" would
nut pray for the success of our arms, nor
render thanksgiving for victories. It Was
also set forth that tender,. respectful, 'and
repeated efforts had been made to induce the
pastor to cantina the public devotions of the
sanctuary in such a way that the people
could there, as well as elsewhere, pray for
their sona in the service of their country,
for the maintenance. and success of our
Government, and for the suppression of re
bellion ; but that all these efforts ,had been
in vain ; and that a lengthy correspon
dence between the pastor and ,the memori
alists gave unmistakable evidence that
these declarations were true. At this meet
- ing Dr. Plumer 'and•the memorialists were
fully heard ; the action ,of that part of the
congregation which still expressed satisfac
tion with the -pastor, was read.; Nand the,
whole case was considered at great length
by Presbytery. The only result then
reached was the appointment of ,a commit
tee to visit the congregation for the put , -
pose of settling the .trouble,s which had
arisen, if possible. This
• committee, after
two meetings with: the representatives of
the two parties into which the congrega
tion had become divided, presented' are
port to Presbytery on the Bth day of July,
embracing two alternative measures. 1.
That the Presbytery advise the pastor to
resign his charge, Or, 2 . That the
~ Pres;
by tery assent to the pecuniary arrangement
entered into conditionally by the parties, in
the event of separation. The first alterna
tive was rejected, the vote beiug six to six,
and the Moderator' giving the casting vote
g 'hist it. Some members declined to vote,
ad still more were absent. The becousl
alternative was then agreed to, but with
he explicit understanding by Presbytery,
that this had only reference to pecuniary
:matters, if in any event the congregation
should be divided. Presbytery took no
steps toward effecting• such a division, ner
toward organizing a new church. Now it
,was certainly competent fur Presbytery to
adopt either alternative, or to reject both
, and adopt some other measure. The, sole
;object of Presbytery was to - reunite the
church, or if it failed in iffiliOci see that
no injustice was done either 'party. Hew- '
ever, the' Congregation did 'divide, ancl dyer
- eighty communicants, along'irith some ten
pew-holders, not communicants, left, in
consequence of the original cause of dissat
isfaction net being removed
At the next• meeting of Presbytery, held
on the 2d - of September, it: was perfectly
evident that the action taken in July had
failed to fulfill the, reasonable expectations
which littUbeeii entertained. And to rdtn
,edy thitl; failure as'far a's - possible, then,.
three kind and, we think, judicious recom
imendationa were made...l.. That the pester
discontinue his ministry in that congrega
tion, sinqe it was; admitted by all that his
course with respeotto.eur country, in the
resent momentous state of affairs, was the
sole cause of. all the, difficulty. 2. The
member's ; who had separated from the
church were advised to return. 8. To
oth,parties it was recommended to restore
the funds ] to their original condition. The
ntire design and :aim of all this, was to
ender the church ,united and harmonious
as it, had formerly been; and , the highesi
onsideration was manifested toward all the,
arties.
That,the Presbytery had a rigbt,to act
hus, will net'be'denied by any Me familiar
with the prineitiles and practices ot Presby
. .
tertantstn.
U pon'teing informed of this 'prdCed vire
f Presbytery, Dr. Pludier 'at once ceased,
is pastoral labors and solicited a'special
eeti lig on, the 19th of September, although
adjourned meeting was to he behfon the
7th or October. At this special meeting
Dr. Plutner presented his resignation, and
urged its acceptance. with great earnestuesis.,,
The Rettionstranee against the acceptande
'of the rceSignation was presented,' and the'
commisMoneri! from the Central church
were beard' 'at length in its support.
ull deliberations "were given by the Pres
ytery, After this the resignation Was
naniniously accepted ; save the vote of the,
Elder from the, Centraftibtirch, whose namii •
was appended to the Remonstrance.' Dr.
Plumer then asked'aVediffielite of dismis
•sion, to connect witW Preebytery, of
Burlington, New•Altriejc*lire-thk he
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VOL. XI., NO. 6.
bad already made arrangements to leave for
the East that, evening. This request was
also granted.
And now the Presbytery supposed the
troubles ia the Central Presbyterian church
at an .ellii. .6.1 uoh time and attention had
been employed for the restoration of peace
and the removal of the offence. It was our
earnest hope that hereafter there would be
no cause for Presbyterial interference, ex
cept in the way of encouragement, and to
advance directly the Redeemer's kingdom.
But the publication of the Remonstrance
presented to Presbytery, and which right
fully belon4ed only to Presbytery, allows
no alternative, if we would vindicate' the
character of Presbytery.
In the Remonstrance, as published, com.•
plaint is made that Presbytery declined tot
place this Remonstrance on its permanent
Records. The. reasons for this action were
these;' and we feel assured they will meet
the approbation of all unprejudiced .and
right-thinking minds: The Remonstrance
was very lengthy, and to have, inserted it,
would have taken much room and occupied
Much time. But the Paper itself contained
hints, threw out suspicions, and made
charges calculated to do injustice And, in
jury to the repetation of this, Presbytery.
Heuee if' the .Paper had been entered, a
reply showing the incorrectness- rir state
ments therein contained,iand the inconelii-
Sivenees of reasonings, there given, must
also have been inserted. So that Presby
tery was willing to submit to the hearing
of that Paper and then place it . on file with
other 'Papers of Presbytery; rather than do
any 'thing which could by possibility injire
Christian breihren who bad placed their
signatures to that Paper without a 'fall
knowledge of all the facts, in all their
i bearings. Surely .we Cannot be 'blamed for
i this generosity and fOrbearance.
I !We have already given a history of the
proceedings which endedin the dissolution
of the . pastoral relation between the Rev.
Vim. S Plumer, D.D., and the Central
Presbyterian church, and the renionstrants
I have published various documents relating
to this case., It is concerning the. infer
ences drawn from these and the false issue
attempted .to be raised, the Presbytery
would farther speak. To set these in a
proper light, before the Church and the
world, it, is necessary to consider them in
the order in which they appear in that pa
per, which compels us to 'repli in this pub
lic manner, however reluctant we may be
to do' s n, and however gladly we,Would pass
it over, if the clernalids of truth and right
eoueness would'PerMit.
L This Presbytery is charged with treat
ing the majoritrof 'the - lb:embers of the
Central' Presbyterian Aural in a preju
diced and ; harsh ' manner. We do notihesi
tate to say that this eharge has
. not the
least felindation. The Presbytery could
havebed no_ motive for doing so. The
prosperity and well-being of the Church in
question could only inure to the prosperity
and greWth of the Presbytery. 'But, on the
contrary, every facility was afforded that
church, or the majority of that church, for
pregenting its ease with the utmost fullness
and clearness.; "Time was given) confer-
ante was . allowed ; afid — the Most pii,t
beating was endured: " And.;l4, tesWerthy tlell of
notice ' that not a single sPeCifioatien is
made in support,of the general assertion ;
',and we veuture' to say aim not one well
fou.nded specification of the kind alluded
to can be brought feriard.
2. It is asserted that documents suited
to present the Central' church and 'its pas
tor in a true light , have not , been 'entered
upon the Recorcia of the resbytery or
given to the publi H c. To this we reply that
, • eo paper whatsbever, for* which P. place was
"asked on our,Recirds, was refused, except
this lone - RemonStrance which was declintd
for the good and substantial reasons al
ready' given. Nor has this Preiihytety pub
lished anything concerning thiecherch, or
its late pastor, with the intention of Placing
I either in a false position. These are faits
to. which we'fearleisly appeal. '
3,., It is declared that contracts involv i ng,
oousiderable sums of niOney, and puma s ,
vent. Church relations, are
. not regarded by,
the ;Presbytery,its sacred. This charge is
wholly gratuitous, Unkind, and uncharita
ble. The Preshytery, paid have had ,no
other object than the higheet, good and the
greatest usefulness, Of, the entire Central
church, .including both the wajerity, and
the minority.. And when it ,bec,ame ap
parent to Presbytery that the pecuaiary ar
rangement ,assented to in :July was , not
working well for either 'Party, or for the
entire Presbyterian Church, because of the
failure of pr..Plumer to unet.the iinit,OX'*-
pectations,, of the Presbytery, it was tier
'tainly competent, for the Presbytery to re
trace its steps. The resolution recom
mending the minority to
,return to the
church, and to restore the Money received
from the majority,l Was Merely advisory,
and to take effect only upon the agreement
or both parties. 'ln this wag, ''injury
would be done "neither party; and the
ebnieh wofild be agaie united. In this we
cannot' pessibly 'eme any' ground of`- corn:-
plaint, unless it was "the determined' pur
pose of the majority to keep out the minor
ity at all, hazards, and thiiii permanently
rend'the ehurch. • - -
4. It r is said that the effeet'af the
recommending the Presbytery, reeemending the minerity .
to retain to the Centrel, church'and restore
the money received, was to deprive the
majority of the'benefit of the money paid
to the Minority,`and talea,d te a distrust of
the' permanency, of the Central church.
'The reason , given for this . conalusion is,
ci m
that noney has been yet offereds But
it iS tube borne in Mind that the , recom
neerlation of PresbYtery was given On the .
M 'Of Septeinber, and thia RemoOstrince .
Was presented on the 19th of the same
month. And 'ins the iffeentime thete: had
been much excitenient, , arid but little op..
portnnity for calm reflectionpendiiig the
decision of Presbytery as inthe resignation
of Dr. Plainer. Timemiist, be allowed, and
patience exercised, 'in( cases involving so
many and such tender interests.
5.'" CoMplaint , "is ' made Weaned of the
bearing of these proceedings on Iliehorinred
and beloved' pastor. .Presbytery Mak no
hasty aetion." The' unfortimate' course of
ithe pastor had been borne with for 'seven
teen months. Surely during the iriornen,
tons events of that period, time inough'Was
given'hinti to definelis position with regard
to a great and righteous cense, costing so
mueli'treasure and blood, and on ficeounvof
whiefirthere was so ranch misery arid suffer
ing in all the land. 'iii addition to this,'
his.entire CougiegittirlitlWilihed to give the
most favorable eonstiactiOn'PoSsible tb all
his' Words and' acts. Bdt, their expecte : ,
dela aie digiffitiiiteiliiinititileges'ilV,
10' Cti
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in public, from the lips of their pastor, for
the success of the National cause, nor
thanksgiving for victories. He never calls
secession,' rebellion. He terms it a
" schism," and " revolution," but not rebel
lion. The result is, the withdrawal of
ninety communicants and pew-holders from
a new congregation, and the imperilling of
the whole enterprise. Every opportunity
is given the pastor to set himself right;
but instead of attempting to do this, his
letters addressed to the minority, and which
were read to Presbytery by himself, con
demned by implication, and' almost by di
rect assertion, the course taken by the great
body of the loyal ministers in the North,
and declared that he could not and would
mot pray for the success of our arms, or
render thanksgiving for victory, as will
presently be shown. Meanwhile the Theo
logical Seminary in which the pastor was
a Professor, was suffering; the Central
church of Allegheny was suffering ; the
Presbytery was suffering; the whole Pres
byteian Church was suffering, in public
estimation, because of the course of this
distinguished pastor and Professor. For
if Di. Plumer was right, the entire Pres
byterian Church of the North was wrong;
the whole loyal people of the nation were
wrong,and the Government of thii'coun
try, was' not worth the care, or thought of
Cliiistitin ministers and Christian Men.
6. It is declared that the couraliol,,Pres
bytery has been' dapted to fejure the good
name of the Central church. We cannot'
understand- how this can be. =Disloyalty
was never charged by Presbytery, or in
Presbytery, against that church; it was,
not even intimated. On the contrary; the
loyalty of that people was freely admitted
and highly commended. •It is no discredit
to a regitnent to , have a colonel: removed
whose loyalty is not above suspicion, and
`who has made himself on this account un
accePtable to a large part of his command,
though the other part may be strongly at
tached to him 'on personal grounds.
7. It is said that notwithstanding the
serious loss occasioned by the departure of
;the minority, the church was still nu.meri-,
tally strong and cordially united. Withoat
controverting the' assertion as to this
strength and this unky, it is proper for us
to say, thakneither of them arose from the
cause assigned. , And it; is very doubtful
whether either of' them could have been
long continued, had' the late pastoral rela
tion remained. Numerical strength and
cordial unity -among,those remaining in the
Central •church, dul l not arise because of
approval of Dr. Plumes course. :..This.
fact, has been. - carefully and skillfully kept
out of view. To establish this it is ueces
sary to go back a'little. In the beginning
of thntroubles in the Central church, the
minority: expressly, disavowed, any and
every intention of affecting the , pastoral
relation between Dr. Plumer and the Cen
tral church. But from the first to the Nat;
in all his communications to them,
he
charged them' with seeking to remove him
from the pastorate. And at' the'meetings
of the congregation, , held last 'Spring,
when the minorit`yproposed a series of res-`
olutionS, affirming 'the loyalty of the Oen
traV 'chum* anti -declaring a CenVietien
that in:' 1,1i6i 'devotions' of the Sanetharf,
God shotild be thanked for victories won,
and his' blessing sought upon 'our armies,
Dr. Plumer declared and insisted that to
pass such.resolutions was to censure • him,
and to compel him to cease being pastor of
the church. This was' the issue 'always
raised and held up by Dr. Plumer= and hiS
immediate friends, to the people of the
Central church. The issue was not a true
one, and consequently any apparent strength
or unity resulting from• such an issue, must
be very deceptive. Nor, does this Prtsby
tery belie,ve. that the majority in the Cen
tral church that still,adhered to Dr. Plum 7,
er, knew his sentiments, on the subject in,
dispute, as fully, as they were made known
to the minority and the: Presbytery. We
cannot believe any: large ; portion of that
majority would approve sentiments such as,
these, which occur in one of his letters to
the minority, and Whieli / were read by hina
self in Preshitery
To the minority' he says`: "If you 'are
under 'mistake, in believing that
battles, VictOries, Will end our present po-'
litical troubles. If lam under a mistake,
it is in thinking , that no number of bat-
Wes however bloody, no' number of victories
however great. will bring's peace." "How
`can I pray or give thanks to God for victo
ries which 1' believe will •do good neither to.
the North nor to the .South, the East nor.
the. West, but will fill. the land with woe.
I can thank God for all real blessings such
as peace, rain from heaven, &e., but not for
battles, which can. do no good, but only
harm to all concerned." ' NOT are we•wil
ling to admit • that that 'people gave their,
approbation to such a piece of sophistry
as this, which" has many Parallels in this
correspondence. Dr. planer says :
cannot, pray or give tha4.s for any battle
in which one, of my neighbors, or a gen- 1
Mettler' 'Married to one of my nieces has
probably" Shot "`or killed another." These
quotations, might be multiplied, but encingh
have been given ~to shovi the temper and
tenor of the whole.
8. It is denied that the recommendation
for. Dr. ,Plumer to ceapehis pastoral labors,
would, if complied -with, restore unity, and,,
peace to the Central,
,church. To this it,
may be said, that those in the midst of• ex-.
'citement, and whose,,,personal feelings have
been strongly enlisted, are not the best,
judges of what will restore peace. And,
Presbytery
,was under imperative obliga
tions to do what seemed most likely to con
duce to this result. ; In our Form of Grov
'ernment,,S,loth chapter, Sec. 8, it is enu
merated as among the duties ,of Presby
tery, "to visit particular churches for the
purpose of inquiring into •. their 'state, and
redressing'the evils that : may have arisen,
in them, And „in general to ,order, what-,
ever pertairia to the Spiritual Welfare of t- e,
churches under their care." It is
,plain;
then ' that Presbytery acted'attiotly
the limits of its authority; and liould have
been culpable, if in the,distracted state of
the Central church ithad„Rot acted accord
ing to ifs' best judgment in the case.
• 9. Presbytery is charged with acting to
ward Dr. PluineritiSubh.eviray " as greitt
ly endangers the prinbiples of personal and
religious freedom. -InAupPert of this, seV
eral allegaticins - are ifl'ade. Presbytery is:
blamed for taking action in reCommending-
Dr. Plurnit to cease from. his pastoral 'la..'
hors, when neither 'Dr. Plumer', nor ittiy
inember of this Session" Was present. ' Now
the truth is, Presbytery met on thht day,
and On another day'hat 'Was proposed'
it Dr. Phinter's'spebial , reqiiesti'and to snit!
':.'hifhiNnitin&P'lAt
must be said, longer delay was impossible.
At the previous meeting, after the resolu
tion to dissolve the pastoral relation had
been, negatived, Dr. Plumer, to the grief of
his brethren, had refused to give his vote
in favor of Christian loyalty to the gov
ernment and the use of appropriate means
for suppressing the rebellion. „In a Card
published shortly afterward, he failed to
satisfy, the Church or the country of his
loyalty. In that Card he could denomi
nate " secession " only by the term revolu
tion. The Central Presbyteria i n, published
at Richmond, Va., had 'in an editorial col
limn declared that Dr. Hunter #ad within
twelve months assured a leadin minister of.
the South, of his sympathy witt the South, _
The reputation of the Presbytep and pf the
entire Presbyterian Church, in this quer-
ter, was in jeopardy. In vie:ii . Of all this,
certainly the least we could';, and aie
very mildest - thing we could do, was to re-
commend. Dr. Plumer 'to ce e 'frail his.,
'pastoral labors until his ka 1 hair,Vben
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cleared of this reproach. . -.. ,
Again, it is asserted that P 13 y 'eitid;f,
no grounds for supposing Dr, hither had
any sympathy with the rebellion, iiid that,
the Presbytery acted upon insire inference.
What has, just been stated goes far to in
validate this charge. But there are still
more direct evuiences,, agaimst its truth.,,
'a.) A large and, intelligent part of his'
congregation,' • attaelied to him by strong l
ties, and most anxious to bel i eve him loyal
' to the Government and to appidire:his:
course, after a year of putietii, hearmg,
were unable to discover whether 'he was _in
sympathy with the Government or the're
hellion ; and they left his ministry ; On that
account, though they wouldOberwtse haie .
considered it a high privilege to remaip.
(2.) 'ln letters to that portiini of 4i4 con
gregation, he at last
,declare t a,f,th at he wouid,
not and coutd not pray for4thp success of
our arms. (3.) His cond4t AeforePres
bytery was highly equivlial. 'lO'r, after
reading the above mentioned; letters; his,
exposition of bis duty as4,minister of
the Gospel at the present, time, When Pres
bytery. passed resolutions:,:affiyming'the
right of, i the people, to ask i their pastor to
pray for the success of our armies': and
to render thanksgiving for' victories, and
declaring the' duty • of thwMinister' to - do
so, 1)r. Plumer rose in his place and said
that he .voted for these,;lieselutiens ex
ammo. Yet, at, the very next mecting, i tield
only a few weeks later he declined to vote
for reselhtions of Siniflar
; And here we may reinarlr, that the rolv•
, sons- assigned. by the retnoristratits, why, Dr.
Plumer did not vote for these last resolu-
tkms, are by no means creditable to,him
They say'that after 'Mi. - VOW- Or the 'fiat]
named resolutions, "iminediately his eau
dor and uprightness weretf. assailed ;" and
that 44 he then, informed l:ds friends that,
until the public - temper change he
should'declind voting ori,'ani-Suolyleatter
in thesi, keeping silence!! Now, one of
"two things is certain : lst.. if Dr.,
Plumer refused to do his duty lest he
should be charged with duplicity, he ex
hibited a want of Christian - Candor and
manliness - trib'ectimingollis ehareoter;
and ~ standing.., / , A fildlat; ift-after =Voting
in favor of the first resolutions his position
before the Church and the public was still
doubtful, with respect LO• our .OVernment
there is an 'acknowledgment : Of how fatally
confidence in Di. Pliiiner'sloialty had been'
shaken in the mind. of the-Church and the
country. In view of this, was it : not . high
time fur something definite, on the part of
those to whom he was responsible?
In the Remonstranee, Presbytery is most
unjustly charged with 'bringing , forward
the last resolutions to entrap Dr. Plumer.
The very` reverse' ' is true. Tor, ' when
Presbytery, by it majority of one vete, had
determined not to'diisi3Olve 'the pastoral' re
lation, Dr: Platiieritaid he had just` written
his resignation, but since he' had 'now beeir
sustained ~by Pr,esbytery, he would not pre
sent it. To ,save from being; placed'
in a false positlonby Dr..anter and ,his
Pl .
friends, the Presbytery
; then passed the
resolutions referred to. ,
The Presbytery must, express its Aston
.
ishment to find the Remonstrants.eenclud
ing their Paper by placing Dr. ; Plumer in
the same category, with those ministers
'and elders who, in the General Assembly, of ;
1861, voted against what , are , commonly
termed the " Spring Resolutions'', on, the
state of the country. Not a single one of
'those opposed to thescieresoliiiithas, living
in loyal. States, deniedthe•fight, and.Auty
of praying ,for our Government, for the,
,success Of our arms, and for the i res*ation
of our Union. But. on ilia Contrary, so far'
as is'known 'to this Preshyteryv every one
of these brethren livingin loyal= States hail
done so. Most certainly, neglect or failure,
in these, respects have never been publicly
charged on any one of them.
The PresbYtery 'would moreover' state;
that when the entire proceediegs this
case had been reviewed by the Synod, and
after most of the members,;of Synod had
•read the Remonstrance, they were unani
mously approyed,'the 'committee of SYnhd
'remarking. that " ihe'PreihYtery'hdd
the best that could ; have &Serf clone under{
the circumstances." And such fwe are Con:
vineed will be thecenclusion ,of everyres
sonable mind„ after a
,full consideration of
all the NO; allthe proceedings;and all
the cireurtistanCes Of the case;
Those brethren Who prePitedThe Retried
stranee Were devoteillyattatheittOtheir late,
pastor, and the thought of parting with
him was painful. They itisensibly,,per
mitted themselves to be persuaded that he
had been 'Wronged., and their 'jaded:in/an'
,becabie, inipereeptiblyth themstilvek Warp
ed; and they:Were , prevented -from seeing
many things yas. they . :, will .viey Vim here
atter. Pot Opp and for the whole Cen
tral church; this PresbyterY Cherishes - Abe'
warmest affection'; "as it al wayd When
; they ,stiffer,ive suffer fivhenithey are hon.,
ored, , we are,honoredf.i For:that church we
'will - ever watch, and, pm as ' 9ippe who must
give:ace'oni#. l '`,`,Beheld how goci — cltind hew
pleasant it is fOrtrethreuto iliielftogethei
Adopted in; Presialkeryi3OctOber -, 13th, 1
Anne Domini 1,862 G,r
AAIWN Wii.LIAMS, Moderator,
William Anr,oll,, Stateot Plerk.
'
ReligiOn the Cimp,
MAmp "WakiiLEY, near
Sharpsburg, hid Oat: 11,18620.-
-
M. Etorrott have .beou a sub - soriber
to your exedillOnt`piper fOr , 'number of
years,'at d *al WaYs Fre - oeived , Rnd<readlit withl
pletu§iirei Butz = I vhave toion 'deitiiiod 'of
aviivitilgei sinner
,urro eitthe9lQUVJ to
' msbyt ian Bannei
OBER 25, 1862.
army, except when a copy comes sent by
kind friends at home, and they can not do
us a greater favor each week, for so small
an outlay, than to send us newspapers,
especially those of a religious nature.
Soldiers will read in camp what they would
not have read at home, hence the import
ance of having the' right kind of reading
matter. •
Our regiment, the 155th P.. V., has
been in service nearly two months, aid
we have as yet had but , one sermon
preached in camp; it was by Rev. Wal
lace, of the United PreshYterian Church,
While on a visit to the regiment. There
have been some twenty.applicants for the
"chaplaincy; but as yet, there has been no,
selection by the authorities, owing, I be
lieve, to the want of proper accommoda
tions of tents, &e: The proper material is
here for aj good chaplain to make himself
:useful. Impeakinow , more particularly of
'Co. K., the company to which I belong.
r The.offieera and men are all from Armstrong
004;4,,
fi rought the'hosOm of the
We 'cadet out; with the.intek'tion;6 "having
a moral, religious:company ; . anal: 1 am glad,
to say thg, by the grace of God, we have
as yet, been: able to maintain that character.
We have 'company ; ' warship and
evening, Vier- roll call; at which neatly all
desire to be present. All our 'commis
;
sioned ;officers, with several of ,the non
;
commissicried„end 'quite a number of the
privates take their turn in < leading the
exerciSei.. We alio have prayer-meeting
twice a week, when we 'possiblYean,' and
as a natural result we have 'not the profan
ity -gambling; &c.,:in Our company which
generally accompanies camp, life. _Friends
at home, we do not, forget you in our
prayers; will you not itinember us at a.
throne'of gime° ?
Wei have,' considering length of time'
SiDee , we left Camp. Curtin, (six. weeks,) been.
pretty well trained to the hardships of a
,
soldier's life.. We' have been under cover
three'nights;art&-the rest of that tame have
taken'the weather ' es it' came i'
, an'thio have
Marched as much as twenty-eight.tailes in
a day, with our gttns and all our. accoutre-
Meats ;. yet the boys are ail in good
and'ready to go Whereve'r duty calls. Not
withstanding our hard 'marches and expo
sure, we have as yet very few deaths,
in the 'regiinent
had diseases' consequent 'on a change' of
living, of watre'r, and or 'elimate;: but the
general.healthis improving.
Our , poienel; ) E. Allen, of
he"
eity;
is exeelient Ace; doing all he' can for'
the - health and 'comfort' of the men'; and
the'lresUlt is, the men all - love him; and , de
sire. to -please:hi .
Rut ,I fear have„sitenAyintruded too
much
"on your time and space, and." will
close My 'Unworthy communication.
.YoUrs,'&c.; • - D. T.
.EUEMPEAPI COIittESPONDENCE.
Garibaldi and Ainpica—Hif Wounds—English,
Sympatitp—The Princess and the
Pope—Roman Committee— Tke Non Possti
unzus " —Arehhiehop 4 , Hughes, the Priests, and,
Litierty . l—'Cotion Supply Aisoelation; arid triclia
Black Prospects—Visit to Lancashire—Self--Sae=
rificl—„froposed Substitute for..Cotton—The Dia
coverer—ffmniirw qq, fliblie.7.Reit'ettlirrAgaipTf To
ryism—A.Rottilretilio‘licßeiileie‘iiiid-Liberty—
. Ragged School forl%piielThe American News
—Parente Woes—Last nZury Worthies- 7 -Afore
Abotit Pleteheri-His Zetter-:-(fur But f y—Perse•-
cution 'Evetr ;.
LONPOIS 7 ,;I &pt. 25, 1862..
GARIBALDI in. response to e letter front,
,
the American Consul at Vienna, aVOWS his
desire and Piirpese, if spared and restored,
to eMploy his sword in defence - or the Fed
eral-Governinent and the North, , whieh; he
believes,. are ", fighting,tbr. universal• fiber-,
ty.",. will be.several months before his
wound is healed. Ms aucle was shattered
at .Aspronihnie. `that the
ball had lodged, hiit this was not the case.
An 'English surgeon has ,been' dispatched
to the prison on the bay of S,)ezzia, where
Garibaldi lies and. reports, very favorably
There,,has been great enthusiasm magi
- rested itt; this country for t Garibaldi,and .
deep / sympathy for his ,s,uffering,s. $lO-
seriptions flew in toward the surgical fund,'
and ad vantage has been taken Of the situ
for.holding immense, meetings—as
at Neweastle-on,Tyne—lbr 'denouncing the
Emperor: of the French,: and liatazzi, the
Italian Premier, heeause of their crooked
. policy,and the ,continued. preach occupa-,
tion o f 'Koine Victor ,EMinanuel i s seemid.
daughter, is about ~to, be married to the
young King. Portngal, and .(np doubt'
advised thereto,) wrote, to. the Pope, re
minding hitn that: ite had been, her god . -
fithr, and ileref6re imploring his bles-
Sing, The yofte sent the . Princess ,some ; '
splendid jewellry as a present, and' now to
embarrass him, the Roman Liberals are
preparing, another Splendid present tor the .
Princess. Vietor Emmanuel understands
very"clearly the
." difference between the
Pope's temporal and spiritual poWer. The
Pope, however, still, cries" non possumus,,"
and so it will be, t„expeet, old fab
ric ion3efine day. c onies down Suddenly'a nd
overwhelms Antonelli and : all his '
oar p cl o i n nal-
,1 it,
:thaelond-tipekin Ainerican patriot, Areh
ibishoprfinglie,s, (whom you have chastised)
doesnOt love Fe eral tam . any farther, than
he . thinks: it safe and favorable for the
" ., ic,hurch," and it toluorraw there, were a-
Itbstile governme nt set up at, Vhshington;
he would ke es re'ady(te,worshiplthe rising ;
.Bun,a& were the the priests in Paris, who /
successively bowed down and said rmasses
before
~I lentbenes.t,.. 'O'rlean,s, and `.bl:apileon
iis mo n arc'h's E
s; Excellent .4,epublipa q s;
so, ere ihesegentry—when i it t snits them.,
Did ;they net plant and bless "trees of lib
erty' in the:RevelUtion:dayi.oif 1848 and
did see those nascent, "trees soon ,after
' :their priestly baptism ?
THE t;OI` , TON "S,UPPLY ASSOCIATION of
Manchester, have,been holding a meeting
this week,. from , :which. ,appears .that in
eonsequence of ithe:opriosition; or 'neglect of
Sir Charles Wood; and the Indian Comical,
verylittleeotton can expected , this year
'from ,Indiac. and , that insteacLoti one .tnilhon
"bales from gigrters being,receivable—
is Was , asserted and 'expeeted—there :will
,not alargernlinber than 'three hundred
thou-Sand. fr h t h •nf-the 'Manchester
people is' , naturally... kindled against , Sir
Charles, onegentleman amid" loud cheers,"
saying , that he ought to be impeached and
disniissed -from. lame. `-The:: Timei defends
in its cool and impudent way, the-Secre
tary and his Conncil menus Mr. tLaing;the
'late Finance Miniater of India' ' and also
-the :deceased ' Lord Carining, 4hose plan
land proposals in reference to landngrants
to native , proprietors , were: , thwarted. and
set liside-under the :pretence that ; tho, lands
must first be Eittra o eyad.z - t t--
WHOLE NO. 526.
I have been this week in Liverpool and
Manchester. The import of vast amounts
of grain, and the labor demanded for land
ing, storing, &c., has greatly relieved the
Working men there, who last year were
well nigh at thl starvation point. But in
Manchester there is ever increasing dis
tress, and especially-is this the case at
Stockport, Preston, Blackburn, Staley
bridge, and other towns of Lancashire.
It made my heart sa i d as' the train stopped
at Stockport to see -a few chimneys only,
out-of a host, emitting the smoke which
redicated the manufactures that gave bread'
to tens of thousands. The slmernakin.s.
trade also is in a depressed state, from - the
same cause. Shoes' and Clothe's' , generally
are not 'bought' by the people, for' lack of
means. On the contrary, Such articles
have, with little :pieces of furniture, fami
ly books, &c., gone to the pawn shop long
ago:.
• DePots are being 'opened for collecting
half-worn 'clothes for men, women, girls,
,and' children=-in prospect of the Winter's
••
ceill4-774,p4 sewing classe.s yor vris and wo
vfor?tartilLg urr*V7:l.F: 0:43;0' ex—
iensively operating. isetan 'Ain) igi l ei!;'
living in midst of the distress, are`Made`
the'almonerki of the` honnty of Christians'
at a distance, and are actin' in a liable
spirit of telr4am:ifiee. It remind's one of
. the famine days of Ireland, Wheti Episco
pal and Presbyterian clergyM . en and their
families, devote tlienrielVes to the' relief of
the miserable and periShino: and where
the only 'exceptions were the Rotnish
prieita, who (with some honorable eicep
tion's,) exacted their ".dies," and paid
fbeinselveS - out of government relief funds.
But: the calanlitY that ' - fall#ll 'on Eng,-
htnd, is only partial; and' it is'not yet
likely to be an actual famine, with 'that
awfully dastinctive fever which Invariably
'tracks its fdotsteps.
Tag. PROPOSED SUBSTITUTE 0013, COTTON
is exciting much attention. It is being
tested, at Manchester, and, the, results, will
ere long be made known. The difficulty
seems •to be, that a ,sufficient quantity of
the weed cannot be,precured, or depended
On as a continuous supply. Mr. .Harden,;
the discoverer, has been offered large sums
of money by,individuals, who proposed 4o
work the material by priv.ate.,undertaking.
Many tnanufacturers also gave him gener
ousefferS'of money to assist hilt work-`
in. • .
g I.G himself. But he refused, because'
Bix . monthe ' delay mtpt •elapse. in.order to'
secure ,patents„and in, the meantime pov
e,rty and
~s uffering might reign supreme.
With respect. to an immediate Supply of
the material, he suggests ; that the manta
ployed'operatives and their children Might',
at once b& transported th different: points
along
,the coasts of tb l e, United Xingdm,n.
;and be housed in temporary, huts,'to, find
reiriunerative emPlOyment:during the stn
' ectleeting, the plant:" TO'seeitra
future supplyVhe proposes ha cultivation in
the estuaries of rivers,. the lowlands of
Lincolnshireand Norfolk,and the low s sandy,
!shores • ally intind England, .Seet;and, and
Areladd; shonhi `preteeted by an act of
,parliaMent.' 'One of the facilitiei to be'
expected from it Is,- that, like common
'grass; after being, cut, it - will grow,• up'
again, and yield two, crops,in the year.
A POLITICAL SCHISM ~tbe Roman
Catholic .body--,speciallY in., Engla-nd : -.--,-bd,
gins to manifestitself. Latterly, you know, r
the politicarroa has been to - vote foi To
ries instead of Liberals;" se• as to 'baiter] on
the crisis so •ardently , ..lodged for, .when
Lord Derby and.D'lsraeli. shall be in mffice
- again. Thus several .Nory N. P.'s have.
gone into - Parliament 'by the votes of lin
- manista, to the riot): by 'Roman Catholic
priests. - They cannot forgife Lord Pali
merston for refusing aecharter to the Re
man Catholic-University ,Dublin, and
for his consistent,s deterreinea, ancl-Pc'w
erful pintesla 'against' '.' the Preiceli
enpatiou of Roine. But "whem do they
trusS and lean on ? the , most Slip
pery, .of • ,English: 'Benjamin:l
D'lsraeli, who palters with„,t,hem,„in !
.doutile . sense , and' holds out i , ; shalowy,hopes
as sur e ly deceitful 'as the moCking mirage
of the r deSert'sands. '
this 'while the''ltonianists iforget
thattpersisteraly and fiereelynthe Tdrie's re
sisted :their. civil emancipation, and that the
hated, ; Whigs : ,were , for a. generation self-,
excluded from office ; because they klyvay's.
adheied to that, as an' essential condition
taking Service under the'Crown.'' What,"'
says a journal,..„°Are ,NVO to 'predicate•s.of:
-their ;penetration'? -.Where is their grati-,
tude.?" •
• There is, I repeat, a reaction against the
new 'Poliay; so strenuously recon3dended
from' the 'altars, and' by pastoral le,tters:
It is:pleasant to !see ',Roman Catholic ; lay
men .daring to ;: brave their., clergy. And
this is, done boldly and. manfully, in the
new quarterly, the Holm and Poreigi Re-
In more than one article the Roman
t Catholios are reminded that they owe much
.to the-Liberals , and nothing .to the Tories.:
A.nd, i history is.•appealed to, to shovr that
forfeiture of principle brings its punish
ment," and that in politics, ecclesiastical
management mars success. There "'is "an
•artieleito this effect written byralytAinp. l , and
iwealthyßoman CatholingentlettiamrSir John
p., and • ,signed. by, his, initials.
vg as recominencle#, , some
,y?ars. ago,. to
the Catholics of Cailoi, in Ireland, as a
suitable 'Apresen'ttitiire.` 'Wad he i SiontlY
:opposes Lir.-WiseMan, to4he 4 great , ehtigrin
and disgust of the latter.
•"
" ' Sct Gpsiis
_AGG ED 00Ti •x -
lateirbedn opened IW*NOttingllitl; 006 , of
the liWestern districts ofs the Metropolis:
SOmp, years, ago,.:, gave ye*r. , readers
sketches pf, the, gypsy tribes - in ,E's'sex
With'some of whom had come into 'per-
SOnal 'contact The' i City MiSSioriq'
,thatAnarter had done muchloriand atnong
'them - ; and. these efforts.,-ate being , Would
AMERIMAN‘ t had , 6 . been 'eagerly .
looked for,..fbr: some days., past, andf-then
the tidings. came , of, the disastrous retreat
from Virginia, of the
i terrible slaughter,
and of the sufferings ofthe helpidis
`Woulided kiting' on the battl'i-leTd;'the•'taen:'
sation was profound. The gigantic pronor. ,
tions of this strife, the fearful;desolation of
families, and the waste .of a nation's re
sources,all are present,:to our minds.
.But
how - little can we realize. the atiful "state ''of
things as: brSuglit &fine' 1;6 Many al fathdr's
and - motheeslieart Last:week;`. il3 Shrop
shire, a eltistian lady,pukinto my hanrks:
letter from.dier , brother sn. English
grant and,farnier,r r ho settled
,years age in .
Ohio.was very taii w ehing---the anxiety
and pp ehe'nston, it4aPiitfaire the
ing4tith34siimAj son who wenifitigitenhe
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PROPRIETOR AND ,PIIIILIAHAR.
war, while they trembled and wept as they
stood watching his departing figure, never,
perhaps, to see him again.
Tnr, WORTHIES of the last century,
within the pale of the Church of England—
in it but not of it—were forcibly suggested
to my mind by my recent visit to Madeley,
and to the grave of. Fletcher—as described
in my last communication. „Since then, at
Wene, in Yorkshire, I have been the gueit
of the grandson and granddaughter ‘Olthe
Rev_ Mr. Simpson,. Vicar of Huddersfield,
the author of the well-known " Plea for
Revealed Religion," and a man •who did
a great work for Go.a ,and .for, his genera
tion. My friends haveri.preserve i d : ikmoug
their most precious relies and memor ials of
the past,' a' hollectinn - of letters, addressed
to SiMpiOn' hy Fletcher' of Madeley, Rob/
insori -of •Leieester, and 'the eccentric and
'=excellent d;obal Berridge-
In the letters of the first and last of
these three—written in round hand, and
en that - 411'4k, brown PaPer 'Aich fdre
fathenstii4ed.l—cine Sees S'ery plainly what a
great fight of afflictionithese tholyimen ,en- , .
dured and with-witat o heroic-courage-they
'brirv?4 p very - peftl; rather thank, suffer i staull o
"to' itiehlh.'" Pfdah l eVin
* Si mpsett; of the. da:te rof Aticitzst 4th; 4775 i
" I have. aometirhes preached in:licensed
places, but . have never been met:imp-ad for
it. Ferhapts it is,beeause my superiers in
the - C;ureh think me not worth their no
tice, - and: 'despair of me - with
their unevangelical regularity. I. would
observe, .Ist, that the carious: .of. men can
not overthrow the canons. of. God ; preach
the word bqinstant xn scason, on 4 , out of
season. The ` time ,ecirneth 4 when the true
worshippers shall Worsh:ipL-parfietilarly, or'
exclusively of other places—neither , on,
Gerizzint nor on. Mount Zion;. but they
shall worship every, where spirit and
in truth.
. „
'
" The contrary canons afe, ;Teirish, and)
subversive of the liberty Wherewith Christ
has made! us free; lea; contrary; to: the
rig,ht of l 9hurchmen,l,whieh must,:atteast,,
include the, privileges of Dissenters.
" 2. ' Before tlae Bishops shackled ' me
with canons, he Charged 'me to seek 'for
Christ's.' -lost sheep that' 'are dispersed '
abroad, and for his • children- soho are in
the midst ,of this wicked world!. These
• sheep I will try, to , Father
,wherever I meet
have a general canon, ' to do good
noto' all Men; '&67' to 'prench the Gospel'
to enery creature''" willing to heavit. , A ins
tiner,ofthe Peace once would, prosecute me
'llll4r.the conyenticle Act;,but, when it.
-
came. to the worst, he dorsi not Some
or,my parishioners went and complained to
the -Biishop' about
( week-preaching 'and `prdler-trieetings);
I wrote•toithe Re g istrar, that I hoped hia
Lordship, who had ,given m , ; the Above
mentioned charge at ordination, would not
be .against mS - following it-that tiAmght
it hard 'that' tipplers should have twenty or
thirty tippling-honsesi.the Dissenters-three
or four , meeting-houses, and, the ,Papists
ene,:io•my parish, undisturbed, and that I
~shonid be ,disturbed becatiSe I would not
have 'GOdzi Word Confined to on ehouse.
th r esp edt to -the, caul:lasi r said, it
would be , absurd to ..put:,thern in force
against preaching-clergymen, when they
were set aside as to, non:catechizieg, tip-
.gaming, carding,(card-playing,)
clergyinen : that I did' not desire his Lord
shill :to. patronize mein a special manner,
'in the , use t ef,,reY , Civistian liberty ; but
I hoped he would cuts:NI:TB at it.
Whether they, received my letter or not, I
do not: know; but they'never attempted. to
.molese me. ' .'•
" As< I was preaching, on the head of:
Preaching, in licensed places ; or in Dissent,
' ov
placesith the late Mr. t Whitfield,-be
~t old me - that when a minister ;at the 'Church
of 'England ;first (in such places)'did !tad
the prayet, there - Wes no law awainst him, -
and iliat,toe =Maack clergy very. frequently
do so in America.'.'
self doing the very thinas, ecclesiastically
irregular, which Fletcher had done, and
..the latter etiniYarl.Fdlim,,p(t only - by his
awn example, but hke , boiltkel—con
cludinc. his letter in .the!ge words : ' Qnly be'
modestly and steadily hold, .for .Goa . and
your enemies will be -More afraid.ef you,
than jou' iinhern'i or;' if God 'will Wider
,y,ou With-the badge , of , persecutioni;he will
eninfort sand :bless you_ the_ niorek.for
May , the , God. of all ,grace an.j. power be
with you, more .and ;more! Ask it, dear,
flair, your 1111WOrthY tiottier: and servant'
qici Christ, - ' - Er,urcitra."
Men like' this, an d dike'Beiridge, (a moit
quaint and admirabledetter from whom I
must reserve till next.week,),were noble,' -
courageous, .and indeed !' modestly and„
steadily bold,dfor Giid." 'All honor to their
memories I They fought' a good fight, and
they-have long - since' won and 'worn the
amaranthine crown, awarded by the pierced
hand of, their Captain and Xing, v,vho him
.
self „" endured, the cross, and, despised; the
shame !" Alas! what dwarfs are we, egun
'Tared with , those , giantsiof j the past-,---spe.:
(daily to„this courage, in, braving all_risks=,
rather than :sacrifice ,principle nr let pass
h . ," a goldenwortnnitypf usefulness. ;Hour 'do we leel afraid, and ,ashamed even 'to
sPeak , -at'timee.Weur
about 'his,or her, ,soul, or, to
diarge, sbercie hen' the' )!)ffettiter..,t(l Thou tart n
the' meal" - of,all power-and might,
infase..Anto: thy a pciblic,,,servants of the
"Spirit notoffearbutof power, : and of love,'
''land
,of sonn_d. ,them 10. 1
thyself ; And ,the, ,Confessors of, the
.ddePftime •
Persecution, , in petty ways, still shows
f-=-sometimes from:Abe.. malignity and
Jealousy ofdlectorscandlVicani - SOm‘tima i'
'from- the' fidelity: 'of 'a. godly e Episiopal
''Clergyman,'' to , God• and-his nwn 'Conscience
rebuking vice,'whether in highs
.low,.among his parishioners.,: knowiand
love, as. ail dear friend; a'. • elergym an depho
now mimsteringar onaon with; great'
use- ,
'fulness,: who ..some.Lten years , 'age was= Int
liumbent oftkparish 'in klheshire—withitiia
, :feW miles:of „th spot vhdre.LthisTletter is
.•„pen nedi hutt)fidia.:
reeted .;` , :›Teproofk)iatid olenionstrances!.
against godlessorderry-nutkingi. Tdocurrinks •
Bnco a yearnin , his. [parish. 'dome. , ofC.the:'.
Squires' *tire -offended; 41,ndA feWmalksd
out of , the chniehos hempoke: rathit result'
iwaskthat,..hettxshuagethhisispbere of :labor
with another , clergyrban lessicourageou.
hut notltill;•in a farewell iserrnon, ,he. ten
appeale4, to; and soleintily. 'Warne&
th esp. Whik ad rejected histitesti r jnimY.,illt:
ffis antawfullthink wheiu mertictivilbmo4
en
,,;c}ure 43ound-doctrine;Pi indi when they4teei
readytotsayowith thetwicked , Ktn thee'
'faithfulisprophi3t tanda preacher; dt i ghat%
shims ,for 4taxprppiregititliondti4ng: otitiellnxt
'ova