. 4 5 , ,r1Fte's, • . _ • I Oral Mit now Stopto inquire whether these gentle . • itnen were', or were ri , t,pydged to the coy* they, into the geicatiati'Whetli-i ,cie they, were 'the Joey:agar the cenatiteido'reali ty, an . .net Of it.forni_te Assrm%ly.;os 1 ion of the opin 7T , idoa, mid leo that they gi , Wsly erred in re- . ifu;iti ; ; to'plitee their names on the tistof rejeeteil'Appli '------ivents.-__Tleey'...wrre_eme_cormeniture-on-Coneinissiaittfto whom such queiftions are first place referred. 'IC'" Vila their duty to decide neythe. propriety of the appli leotioti and to ;refer the„elr:cisi . om to thefurther„.netion' • . • nal the House, by adding' their:names to .theroll M it embers - Whose - corrimissielis - had - becu examined and ' , rejected. ' • . They cannottonsi der commissions, in other respects ; :regular, ns Olen • and 'widowed, Merely leconse they Tynelied loom presbyteries that had - been nimonstitu • atonally putout of the pale of the church withoitt-Enta ' Con and without trial:, ... . • • • It is, therebre.the -pinion of the Court, that in this there was mpillpdsle violation of the rights of the pro - scribed ooniansmor,iers.' n•entlen .n;truslhe ,a...ond error , contotiued; and which red the scene of disorder which ensued, so _little . ere ;table to a - . • ' After 'the, moderator; 1)r. - Ellhott, bad taken' the the chair, and stated that !116 had e:ertnlti resolutions to Wier. The moleratrie -dticided that he was ont;of order; that the first business was the report of the clerke,,who you will recollect' • were the committee:ol7 commissions • • De. 'rattan , stated that hia motion- or resolution lind reference to the formation ol l the roll - AIi:ITH was his . • intent:ll:into make his nintioa and hoe the question. , taken. without debato. The 1f idcrater said die clerks ;were proeceding with their repOrt. Dr. Paulo re- ,” minded the Moderator that he had' the floor •befire the clerkiC The %loilerotor still' decided li • sits out of order,•wherenpon Dr, Patto.l restiectfolly appeal &mu- the- decision-2f- die oh air. = The ,7•,\leratord - • • decided that. the.appeal oimsneit Tif or lee, and stated as as reason fir the decision, ihßt„there 'was no shiieh the appeal "could be taken.. ar.: Of, th - e. opinion that the dee' sion °lithe 'Moderator sits correct, hr the reaatii given - hi: him. Iria a rule; of the Assembly that no persons shit he gOonlited to vote unless they are . enrolled, and ;,.unigl -- e - r ,thiiort . of - the Conimiitee Oil commisdons_it c annot.{ bejudicisilly known who are' members.of the ' (tense,' • 'acd as sneb,.pri vi I egcel tztolcepak iothe )I , o',Onlititi IF, however, there was a mai ority ~fi it, arising. from • ...;Illielibseoce of the Moderator or Vie ref isid of • the report the there w 1111) e no'elitfieoliy Orgeimizing ,the''A,ss-,n.ably. The .decision of; the ' iModorator was correct; if tic; reasqn ;assigned was the, I;•Mtreaina:'' . , • ._ •-••-After thi 'disposition - of - Dm Patti 1112.tioa, elerk3 made a ,report, 'oatittbi ; ,r, improperly,. a§ liii `been hitfort 'grated," the, homes of ;the.. commissioners' • from the excineled 'ipresbyterie . !, and the M•ideritor a;inottneed to-those Wlll had not presented thAr corn tid Sid:ins; that now was the time. to- tiresen t them, and ',themselves enrolled. ,Some tite,wittwsses `that the Moderatirinitimineed dint; if, there win minly - • .Warnes opl4,fed, 613 was the , time to present 1116/* - - .1 . 018119n5l 'Tkre one- shle-saythat.this_wqsadistilletlif4. iiimition from, the Moderator' liimself;•that; , iieW.:wos the time to preannt tin...F. commissions of . , the 'coil - mils , sloners from, the exeinded ptreshiytci ins. ,-The Miler say it included ;those Only who had not presented their eamidesicnis to the clerks. That the only course to be -ptirs !Oil to' those. who had preOftted their calm - Mit... ._._..duns and had their claim to be enroll e;li,rethsell,.iyam ha velliel.r.case_t;etlered-to.tric-.-c?anindtee on elec.: tiotisi.OuVkaiiie: report only would it conic, properly' JAPird •:1146reirthefifetrany he; and tills or course Yob-Wilt tirge Dr. Mosoa,on member whose-seat acts tweet - AC:gad, atial - vho'hatl-likli reported by the • - .eats VV:lliTtlnv4iatra - metaberi. ranvettlhai , the- Ina (Tale 6'6 excjiulted.,sy nods • , beithledttithe .koo,' ; He had the ernamissions in lii i Land, tti!Vlat'ihe,.timq•ar. the mitlini, statcd that c;:mi lin`tl been I'6o4 * (ll)y:the clerks.'• Tile Illodertitor iiptpdd'fraiii i,Whit'presbYterits rinse coimxistioorrs . ---'—camC.:4 , -Dr. , -Atal6n-..priediAlry , .calit 0 Cr , qmtllC of Data; reeiieVa,..Geletiss_e,, and- die , Western.-Ite,l l :se'rrt!:' JOltidefltt.Or - ..: declared 1)e. • Masiit out of ha!was. Opt of orkir at the :time:H -.l' Irlie,'_witnesSeadiffer as . •t:c..tlie,preciSe expression,. lint J vinititiOvehiedthe'reason_assigned, they. all that tile Moderoter decl area Dr.,,iil.ixoei,aut_of_. order.' that whli'grentresnoct to the • chailt,:he4iiist appeal The appeal ..oediaseconded. The Moderator refused to put the op . 'li6ad';.tleclaring the ageiii, to he out of - Order. ltr 'eithge - of tge- cau se s .unnecessary-tiodecjde_ whether the angina o ~m ion was or was not cot of or ---'der.' I shall put tlkiirliarkar the case on the refusal of thelNlOderator topmthe . questlan 'on the 'Vie question' Whetlier an appeal may not be out Oreler;diut hid whether thisappeal was ant of order, If the nuleratarhad put the question on the appal, ~ he Hoe- - rid In . decided that the ' , it' Ss noiaibte the ease wool It. of o) • . originatmotion was tenor orn,.. thOtightthitt tlietnatter._ivas properly La . ..Ewa:l;le to the conunittee of 'eleOtinittithat it washps•ivilerit (Ines ilotiiior Old Assembly •might by possibility have takep . • at' different vior off thequestion. And whatever they ----TAttight-haVethotightquiLdeuided,_vmuld have been clusiye. IviirefuSing the Auestion, the I .Moderay,te bit all the Wiwer-Of-thel louse-over this. question.- - No reason was given by the .Moderator., • It, rested •simply upon hit 7u.itl. In the opinion of the COurt,it . rasa derelietion.df data=a usnrpation of authority, • • 'which called for the: censure of the. (louse. Ile could oat then allege, as he had dime on VorMer occasion, . that there was no Ileuse - to which the appeal Could be , taken:, At that me, you wi I lre4ollect, that the clerks, hint • Made - their report, and it. was then - aseerWitted sithat members hada right to voth. - ' I lad the, qtiestiOn on the appeal been allowed, it eoidd raz6ertOrtholiettrin-nintAitin-liad,beeir :nide for the firmointwio. clotheeimmiitem.onl,slec ,_. Lions. Mit is„•it is doubtful whether the ;notion was • madAefore •Or after the - .Mali onTina de by Dr, Mom_ And here, let me remark, 4 hat'l look upon the re futul of-the clerks •to put the names of the 'commis ---sixonertt-on:the-r-3114""d• this Malialti-d-the likrilt r lr • , to put the question, on an appeal to the house,al most litifortu'nate. . If the' exeitement did not then commence, yet it, with the uproar Mal confusion width ensued, from • thiktiine greatly increased. After the refusal of the Moderator to allow tui appeal:: the Rev.. Milts. P. 'oreso and said, thatize.bad presented.his coin- ilquier . mikMeri to ks; which-they,had-refuscd-to,re•L • ceiVe.,.. The Moderator asked ,from what-prCsbytery lie came. He- said from the prerbytery of Geneva. • The_lV.lnderator*sked if it was within the haws to of Synod of Goot.vo. .(Te sai4 It was. TheiNlode7 ratter then ,replied, toe not kiipzo yo% The .pre cite trening and imp"rt of these Words bait been the . ',object Or COMMtlilt. !twill be for yen to give them . sash kveight you thtfik thorn, entitled to, ju another part Of this cense. ~ • , . r .• . . - here, ltlt . me: remork, that the' Witness had net ri..;ht, (whatever ininstice• he, may, have snfr.: , red.) eitllo to speak or cote on any enestion before the .Iritre.'. ile ita.l not ,been, reported as a -member. by the_olOrlts ; and..ibe,rnlca,of the, Genersi lAssembly ratptiredi.,that lirfore, tv..member speak • or- vote, he 'tuna' he enrolled: •,,•,, ,• , ,• . To this, time the: witness(' s staatildl v agree :In their 'statement.. There NOP; hut little nois., and but ''',r;vory-,-perit , tlLPSAV-Itint-evorriterson. l „. -' . jt will be your. solemn • .r;sliectfitllv,,lint ::fiernly r : decide upon . the conduct the,Medemfor... , :,• r‘j ` cer 'attic honse in rta.,organization ?,or was he car- ' rying out the. uneonatitationat and void . proceeding , of the General Assembly of 037, which out.otlfroni. flip'. body of One, RreshyMrian; ehttreh 4 . ;synods, IS preshyterieSs(l9miniaters;-and•iwar':6o,ooo presets; without_eitation'and without trial ?• . •I Tad the..ndation!6)7.you, - becanselt la the ' opinton oftheCourt i that the General Assembly has a .riglit 1.4 depose' theityittoderator, uty.ri sufficient 0RC1pe...% -;4., • neceisaryt .for, the protection or the houlie',,otherwiii.the'lVioderator,lastead of being the'... would he the mitst.er,of.the hOuse:, !There is ' stOthing,httbeOnstitlitlionrif thiichuroftOuttieattio.ts , orimpairs r.i6t„ i,i; ..„, ;, 0.: ,Tti applies to ttll,l4lnderaters, whether' ModeratOra : fo lii:jviegreratorape orga_oizatiom . ..'Thef rgi l ß?°. lieriPPs.i,leto_,Attetitionable in the-latter,.than., _ _ _ ; _ 1 " the:Pin/sr. , • , , Nor idP thrit Ater: are ,e4trainelt- in ~tt,leir. , ilytinajn, ; a:Moderator_ n. kvyear,,tlo-Tnat: teprelsept: ..Thatrulnatwlip.s'onyp ordinnry 'iben ititoifirator tint:. in uttenihnici• When ti,......totteratoiquiit,yea . 1- , , ''' ' - s "" elr -O E - tt .T 'l -r itO i tklel:"4l.4"Pilb.t.;'r;iirt7l:l4,4eiracelnito..trageti:e...4 tettO t: ' ti re . l . l• 12 . t a tis v h ;in s its: o c r a f e agt s ;3oll6 yon mint ; dei , • .:,,,, •..,,,, • ad. t ie c rogi ., rome thystearreasonitn iliscfnirge' cour duee, in, WhOle rellol ' .Ti ya!,,111,,, F iy,t0, , . , ;', 14 ' „ 11- , - • , „, ,„E t h e e tk eN idne Mir then .of,proof •' , 4`6 orthe o co„, It does not ,P1),,,r3'.._tc!'i1! .. " ~,Pa - ' for ., t h,i, b owie . ~bl, tutkointistvik f ill COurt' mid mde;,,. fiquiP,,ra- • - tt 't They mutt satisfy yik -........' -- The I'lliil" { „ i *a ._ anntanee t s d ,m e n el l ec ilt t ‘ io g Z of undt'fs Mod, that l. it,t tf4 ic l4,4,.l l ;:s i ß r. t? ' , 1 9 1,3 - ve • oia• t h, i Kg th_ts t i te w . n , dnitl ,. .te h r e ea l i i : t o e t ri t t e io n a s. or the nei , ,rs64o _ olpoyty ---'-- -- anolkeeln. I.lil4lot} otierator,Plat -.‘11 ,- .,. 1 , .;-,;-thet7.l"l4,32imtriW.4•l4--i d 'cier4s 33'11$ Zile' IT/300:1C timi r it :iv" ! h o „ se and ildrourning' to the. First ?r' li `4l o f iligym IS " ° " % l tri°l*- P re t l tOfdm mo el% orft. .. - , riti .. t. to in , ganiztog the ',• ' - entla i, 8 , storx , , 4„, , , ~:, p pli.uF, ‘ 1 „ „ do , 0 ... 1 ,,,r 0 p,g . e, ll. , l Avrn ' Prs p osbyterho churchi, But granting that the Motion_ --1 " - --• ',„„T'li'M i ‘ finv th Ogi certall * l 'P a l''''`gi' . onion of It Prorcmcksio P a i•t„ r ileppi and 'Told. ,4 4:br 4837 4 - f e 1 e a r ()lesermid wait io order, Mat Dm, Ramo, and ' " ; ,44i.r:pT'41tA.Crn,to181;4:111.'ih,ne ~ °,,let c to l f 9 i n t se'leib i tr", ' , . .t "t hp'74(ttlie.r,,,,, , 7l 7 h , l i le i ,d e r sti k, dn t lig t e4 te m e h m e h r si , ,y f i:Po ll liq ie tirtg.l k ,t i h n i . 4, P i. p 7 r 4 t t gl l l l,l i i ,l e t, , ,, ,, , fi ra w ir th z, , ...ti, tn lie, g I n i n a i tl e i t ta .r j G o'r o i l tT eru or l ' A vo s t s e e s m , that . l''' *lt'l Om .' , - -%4 , ' '.'-' ' '''''' '4 : '' "'At l i: ii - 'o;llUt eata I.'.'lle (x l icm , law , lurft ti , uell titilllo,ntlatlY2 aa" , ttiliktOjed-ngt,intend ATier, pado-orgiTiznticla'- :?' ',After 14 'irr Sri fir ei ' tul A ' _ talc .,,.. ea _"l i t ieat ' L PII ,- ~ -i-oomo.liktelft°2-1-1-1- - 7 , '' ; ''''--. ....:-- .the respontient_say that such - was thP preci pitation - ~enit,,:hl o, ,'o- -, (1 , ,,ae,h1 . 4 . 7a6 t „.r„,°,,, -' 4 1 7„- r e 7 ,-*,.."., ??7 - ,7°. 1 !, 1 , , That tiiiiiTtLp— , , .i,,‘1,„.),:d.ppt0.,c,q,.e...tic,,, e nd hastel'Orthese proceedings, their •extraordizuiry., ;.4 '. Itr .::Y rtie l 's , Zo'` - d --elifi-o-iiis-iiami aro se., -4 a ,... 4110 21".7' "",„,,T e l V l ,"„...ti l i ; 'tip. o 4 l , l ; l3 Pr cir ." l , 7„t i i i i" th ' e end novel charneter l , the noise tumult o f f hand t r o n i f i ti o s t i? n ng be .•,...11 , , , ,. •,,..- li, a ,,,, o 6 r i min . ..ii n , i t w i t h- re , int. ty ,, ,, it , 4 , 1.T •• • „„ l, _ , . Th a o . f, eon , iht,t•the.y, and the•ot,,er me kirs of the 11 6 , iri .e ir r k etd n i o a:. o t n .e i n- e M int e pe , r 7-f t -i i, - - n 0 . -- t. d i 8 tit 'a 9try i 0nri0e ., 14 .1. 3 -: r alro w rn , n n n t a e x Tuli t t e l e i n e t n ont 7 r o 7 l :. ti i lwi i ii .n 111 v mj i to c i, ,t ei l n a t i r l a r t r ' tvortopitiOf 'hearing amtvoting, if they had wished ' . deifeewhat AU did' my, hut in'subrittmce • l t' . (is p to do ' ao, anir that therefore this is nn ,attempt 0 '9 1. 1; 't' . • . 6 t0 14 nt'"kl:i)rs tile;Char flee ; i m 0' muting 4.,1te cettio- O'''l,ltiO4 ithieh is nuAandWoid. 3 . gi i i i i., ~ '' .- ''',. ~.-• ~, , . 4 ''' , ' '_:_,..,,,' , ' ~,,", '. OO u ,i, k ,g,th e _ pale) wagon 0 ,10 1 •ili t „I nv ,' i , ioi if individual „rne•-mb,e,,,or a , . , 'Tiiatio_the co.63mitislimeris °l. ' 4b( i' G l. a ... era ir vi t s - tioti lt' an - *unwind pitice,and tm s ipi try43(4 o iisr o, r,' ,4) ' d . oli k s , * ll7carta . ily,; of 1888, from a large. , number 11, pres,_____„yter.ed,iin-oi - arsi t e li e t!im of haunt "1, i l l u „.! 1. ,,.... Plisatitiofie %rOi l ly by tricks