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Conversations: with, •a Know-Nothing.
Democrat.' You tell me that your party is
called the American party. - 'Why do you
give it give this name? - •
Know*-nothing. Because "foreign infiu
dnee has become 'the bane of our
,republic,"
and because we desire to "unite Americans
for the'purpose of ruling America."
Democrat. It' is a good narneLbut have
you ever reflected that you really proscribe
one million and :a half natjve=American 'Citi
zens beeatise they belong to -the Catholic
Church?. Authentic estimates show that
that number of American citizens are attach
ed to that religious persuasion..
Know-nothing. I had not thought of that.
Democrat. And you ever think that
you are just as determi'ned h you opposi
tion. to every American belonging to the dem
oaxatio party, and to every American
belong
ing to the chi whig party, who does not be
long to yotir'order?
Know-nothing. That is so. I had forgot
ten that.
Democrat.' And so you begin your exclu
sive Ar'nericanism; you begin to.''rule Ather
ica with Americans."; by virtually disfran
chisini, so far as' your order can do so, mil
lions of native4'orn citizens, voters and non
voters; because you will perceive that
. when
you establish a religious test you not only
proscribe an adult male, but yoti wink astig
ma upon his Wife - and his children at the
same time.
. .
Know-nothing. But the
is
of, "ruling
America with AmeriCans" is founded in the
holiest sentiment of patriotism, and it is be
cause old parties, particularly the democra
tic party, have gone so far in -flattering and
coaxing the foreigners, that we believe it full
time to organize a thorough American party.
Democrat. You refer to the democratic
party as most in the habit of flattering and
coaxing the foreig - ner . and the adopted citizen.
Will you tell me what party you belonged to
before you'became a know-nothing?
Know-nothing. I 'have all my life been a
democrat up to the moment when I became a
member of the American order.
Democrat. Now, will you tell me what
party that was which placed in nomination a
candidate fur the presidency only three years
ago, and which based one' of its chief appeals
to the votera" , ofthe United States upon the
allegation that the democracy were opposed
to the Catolic persuasion, and that their can•
didate was in favor not only of the adopted
citizen, but most liberally disposed towards
the Catholic Church .1
Know-nothing. That Was - the Whig party,
and you, of course, refer to General Scott; but
still you must admit that the democratic par
ty has been more consistent in appealing to
the adopted citizens than any other party,
• Democrat. I can •admit no such thina'.• I
frankly acknowledge that -the, principles of
the democratic party are well calculated to
attract theardent support of the adopted citi
zen, and to - arouse the sensibilities -of 'the
foreigner when he lands upon our shores,
and are so liberal and so comprehensive that
every man who has suffered from the oppres
sion of the. Old World, or who looks to the
elevation of the masses in the New, instinc
tively unites himself to that party.
Know-nothing.-•It matters not how it has
come about, we:amresolved to put an end to
that state .of things ; : which has made 'the
democratic party: moth than the whig' party,
and•more than any other party, a foreign par
ty more than an American party.
Democrat. Why is the democratic party a
foreign party? •• Can you point- me to a single
great measure originated (Ix ad v ocated by the
democracy which entitles it' to the appella
tion of beinga-foreign party?' Begin' at the
beginning. -Was ' the purchase of Louisiana
by deffersonanevidence that the democratic
party has been committed to foreign preju
dices? Did,, or / do; AMericane or foreigners
reap the' incalculable' advantages of that ac
quisition? ‘. lyon s iell me that the annexa
tion- ofteXae, or the acquisition of California,
is an.evidence that . the democratib party is a
foreign party? n Are the tariff of 1846. the
repeal of the bankrupt law,-the annihilation
of the. Bank ; of „the United- States, proofs o€
sucli.a. tendency? - These are among the mon
uments of democratic 'progress, and 'do you
find in any one of therri a•.pretext
alle
gation which you - • -
,
Know-nothing..l do not refer - to' measuies
so much as men. . .
Democrat. Let us come to men, then. Will
you -be so -good as to point out the adopted
citizens whom the democratic party has elec
ted to offige,..that par ty4which you say is con
stanfly. flattering and .coaxing the foreigners?
Will.youplease point - me to the Catholic who
has been eleoted4o office - by the' democratic
party, to the Catholle':ot r trianiralized citizen
who hairlieien'elect r ed-gioivernor of a State,
member of Congressi s senator Br.c.,
Know-nothing: r confess your qiiestionis
new to me, any; now Thal. I think cifit, 'there
are very feasi either:c,atholiessir adopted citi
zens wyem the democratic party has elected.
to office. 74 • - •
Democrat.: And, now,' if-you:will go 'with
me and take up the muster-rolls which con-
No. 1.
lain the names of the gallant men who fought
in the first and second Wars for 'our indepen
dence, and also of those who fought in the
late,War with Mexico, and then fake up the
Blue Book, which records the• names of the
officers of the general government at Wash—
ington, and at the custom-houses, and post
offices, and other offices throughout the, coun
try, you win perceive that while foreigners
and adopted citizens have been found by
thousands in the ranks of the American army
whenever the honor. of the countrAkas been ,
involved, corriparative_ly very few are to bp
found on thoie listsmhich contain the names •
of the office-holders of the federal government;
and the same thing may -be said with equal
truth of the officers of the respective- State
governments.
. Know-nothing. But you are- certainly
wrong in reference to persons - ho:ding office
under the, present administration.' Gen. Zol
licoffer 'of Tennessee,, who is famous . as a
, matt of intelligence and honor, and who is
one of the 'leaders of the American party,
has made a, prodigious speech which has
gone. 'very far to convert many to our order.
In this 'speech, I find that he says "that seven
tenths of our army .officers. and soldiers are
said to be foreigners, a fourth of the sailors in
our navy, and 3,321 out of 4;303 •officers in
various departments'of the genera . l govern
ment in 1854." How is this- -
Democrat. As' to the nutnber of officers in
• the army and navy who are adopted citizens,
I suppose Gen. Zollicoffer himself knoWs that
all such are exceptions to a very general rule;
and, if he is the intelligent man you say he
is, I presume he will not consider it an evi
dence of doubtful patrotism that foreigners
are willing to fight and die for 'this country in
the ranks of the army and navy. A list of
the birthplaces, of persons employed in the
various, offices of the public services in
Washington and elsewhere presents the fol
lowing extraordinary contradiction of Gen.
Zollicoffer's other figures: Take the office
holders of the grades paid out of the revenues
of the United States, beginning with the Sec
retary of State and running -down to the
smallest post office in the country, including
every department of the general government,
and you will find that out of 4476'persons
employed in these offices but 469 were born
abroad. It may be' well for me to say to you
that this statement is based upon a report pre
pared from the official records at Washington
by the Hon. A. H. Stephens.
Know-nothing, I have got tired of the con
stant reference of the democratic papers to
foreigners fighting the battles of our country;
and of course you could not overlook it. Near
ly all our armies have been composed in a
great part of native-born citizens.
Democrat. Then you forget the fact pre
sented in the very last war in which we have
been engaged, that of Mexico. When. Gen.
Taylor lay with his army on :he American
side of the Rio Grande, where he fought the
first battle of Palo Alto and Besaca de la
Palma, his` troops were almost entirely com
posed of adopted citizens. You cannot for
get that at that time the native-American
party, the seed from which your present or
der has sprung, existed in Philadelphia; and
if you will turn to the files of the native-
American organ, the Philadelphia Daily Sun,
of that day, you will find varions predictions
that when these "Catholic foreigners" were
led into Mexico they would desert in a body
at the first sight of the Catholic cross held
up before their eyes by the Mexican priests.
The danger of enlisting foreigners in our
army was largely descanted upon, and the
government was bitterly blamed for allowinc ,
it to de done. . History tells the rest of the
story. From that day to the battle of Buena
Vista,_ on the one line, and to the capture of
the Halls of the Montezurrias on the other,
crowds of adopted citizens fought under the
AmeriCan flag against the Catholic govern
ment of Mexico, and rescued from that goy
ernment, as a flew theatre upon which Amer
ican institutions and the Protestant religion
should hereafter flourish, the fair and lovely
region of California.
- Know-nothing. You refer to the Protestant
religion . ; - There is: one thing in which you
democrats, without seeming to know• it, make
a great' mistake, and that is the custom of
underrating the Protestant sentiment, so deep
ly seated iu the American mind, hostility to
the aggressions of the Catholic Church, and
particularly to the temporal power exercised
by the Pope of Rome 'over the members of !
that church.
Democrat. I will shouldbe sorry to agree with
you; that the democracy underrate what you
call "this deep-seated sentiment," because I
think the., mariner in which 'we treat that
public sentiment shows, very high, confidence
in the•intelligenCe - of the American masses.
I admit, at the 'start ; that hostillity to the
Church of Rome has for hundreds of, years
been'the cause of frequent, excitements in
different Countries, but I believe that in all
the excesses which this feeling has g iven rise
to, nothing has been more discreditable to the
human character (considering our advanced
civilization). than the excitement which now
prevails throughout the republic on that sub
ject. The democratic party, as yisu are well
aware, rarely stops to count the cost when
once convinced that it is right. You - allege
that the Pope of Roine exercises almost un
limited sway - over the Catholic mind in this
coun try?
Know-no Thing. And I will, prove by re
'cent occurTences;:that the Pope of Rome does
exercise a vast•power over the Catholic mind'.
-1 give you ihevtollowing proof: •
. "The people Of Piedmont,. the other day,
feeling the oppressive,weight of the vast pro
perty • whiCh the Bishops of the Romish
Church had _collected together in that small
kingdom, • yassed a • law sequestrating: the
whole church property,•amounting to $B,OOO
000, and giving it into:the hands. of. the civil
authorities;and the King of Sardinia . approv
ed the law—•On the 22d- of January,: of the
present year, Pope; Pius the-Ninth- issued an
allocution, Which is precisely .the'same style
his predecessor• 'treated 'Magna 'Chiita; he
cancelled, abrogated, and annulled the law;
'arid We reprote? Says the Pope, 'and condemn,
not only all' the decrees already issued by that
government upon the rights and the authority
II
HUNTINGDON,= DECEMBER 12. 1855.
of the general of churches and the Holy See,
but likewise the objectionable law proposed,
and we declare all these acts to be entirely.
worthleSS'and '
Democrat. I perceive you have been read
ink Mr. Ullman's speech delivered at Troy,
New York, on the 23d of October-last.
Know-nothing: Well, if ' I will be
ob:iged to you for answering the fact which
he has'SO forcibly presenteu in proof of the
assertion _I have.made.
Democrat. I will answer it, and I think
satisfactorily. You, olcourSe, remember that
in Great Britain there is att institution known
as,"Chureh and State." , You know, also,
that the established church of that kingdom,
which is the Episcopal church - of our "own
own
country, is supported in part by revenues ex
tracted from the Catholics of Ireland, who are
compelled to pay tithes to their English op
pressors for the support of this Episcopal
Church—a church to which they , are not at
tached, but to which they are conscientiously
opposed; and thus they are 'compelled not
only to contribute to the maintenance of an
aristocracy ecclesiastical nobility who are at ;
tached to the established church, but at the
same time to support their own pastors.--
Would it , not be a most unjust thing to hold
the 'Episcopal church of the United States re
sponsible for the conduct of the high church
of Great Britain? and do - you not think that
Mr. Ullman and yourself have gone out the
way for the purpose of holding the Catholics
of the United States responsible for the act of
the Pape, (on a matter within the jurisdiction
of the Catholic Church, and riot affecting
political obligations,) supposing what you
have quoted to be correct in reference to the
King of Sardina? I might go on multiplying
instance§ to show that if this rule is carried
out the Protestant Church in the United
States would be constantly held 'responsible
for the injustice of those who call themselves
Protestants in the Old World._
Know-nothing. Why, Mr. Brownson, one
.of the leading oracles of the Catholic- Church,
has admitted this temporal power of the
Pope. •
Democrat. Now, you perceive you are di
rectly running into the same error from which
I have just rescued you. I might .as well
quote Dr. Pusey, and judge of Protestantism
from reading his celebrated tract number 90.
as to judge of Catholicism from Brownson,
and you ought to remember that Mr. Brown
son has appeared in a late letter ; in which he
disavows the doctrine of the temporal sover
eignty of the Pope, and-corrects his former
asseveration. ,In support of my opinion,
however, I refer to the celebrated response
from the principal bishoprics of Europe and
from the council of Catholic bishops at Balti
more, and also to the opinion of Bishop Spaul
ding, of Kentucky, to show that such - a
thing
as allegiance to the Pope in temporal matters
is a practical absurdity.. The very last in
stance shows that these doctrines are not
abandoned. I now'quote from an address is
sued by the Catholic archbishop and bishops
of the province of St. Louis at the late provin
cial council held at Cincinnati :
"Unwillingly do we allude to the frivolous
and unworthy .pretexts which are alleged by
the enemies of the church in justification of
their hostility. You are held up to the suspi
cions and hatred of your fellow-citizens as
persons holding doctrines and recognizing
principles incompatible with yonr obligations
as citizens of this republic. We need not
tell you, brethren, that the church imposes
won you no obligations incompatible with
your allegiance to the government under
which you live, or that your religious princi
ples are the best guaran tee your country can
have that hereafter, as heretofore, you will
be found faithful to your duties as citizens,
while you are jealous of your obligations as
Christians. You know that all power is from
God; that society is constituted as a divine
basis; that every offence against the laws of
your country is an offence against God; and
that, consequently, you are to obey, only for
the purpose of avoiding the punishment
which the magistrate inflicts an the trans
gressor, but from the higher motive of con
science. Nor is this obligation weakened or
frustrated of its effect by the paramount obli
gation of observing the divine law. You
know that while rendering to Caesar what is
Cmsar's you must give to God what he ne
cessarily- demands. All who 'profess the
Christian religion acknowledge this princi
ple.. But while others are left to the sugges
tiecs of-their own individual conscience, or
to the direction of some purely human tribu
nal, to ascertain what conscience requires in
the•event of a real or apparent collision be:
tween their duties as citizens and as Chris
tians; you•'have an authority to guide you
'which the,promises of Christ show to be a
certain means avoiding mistake, and which,
even t'o' those who. do'.not recokrnise, its di
vine.character, must,. if calmly reviewed, be
regarded as safer than the dictates of 'the in
diviclual reason, and,more •worthy of confi
dence than apy other - tribunal on earth. '
• "It is only .by an entire 'Misrepresentation
of these principles, - arid, by confounding things
essentially different, dial the enemies of the
Church can represent her as hostile to the
well-being pf society, or her children, as un
worthy of the blessings of civil liberty.
,The
exploded calumny of, a divided allegiance,
which alone, it is said,. Catholics can, consis
tently with their principles, .give the govern
ment of their country, is: now . seriously re
newed, asif it had.not already been refuted
by every kind of argument, as'well as by-the
le'stintony of history and experience. We
are mortified to be obliged to refute a charge
which argues - extreme. ignorance or extreme
malice in those who prefer it. We - owe no
temporal allegiance to the Bishop of Rome. 7.-
We recognise in the - government undeewhich,
we live the power establihed by God fOr, The
tegulation of society;
and that con
cerns the civil order, always to be obey
ed; whenever its requirements' are not obvi
ously opposed to the laW" of God."
Know-nothing. You have made a -- long
- speech, which I will answer with a short ex- ,
tract from General Layfaette i who said, in a
letter written during 'the revolutionary war,
"If ever-the liberties of this country are de-
Eitroyed, it will be by the Roman Catholic
!
priests "
CI
Democrat. And I will answer that. quota
tion by telling you that you have been impo
sed upon; that it is a gross forgery; that Ja
red Sparks, the biographer beWashington,
has appeared in which he proves coneNsively
that General Layfayette used this . quotation
as an extract from another letter, and used i
it not to approve but to disapprove it; and if
it needed anything more to establish its falsi
ty, I might, add that General Lafayette was
himsor. a member, of the Catholic Church.—.
I3ut why should you appeal to such prejudices
,
these. and such means as.these, when you
know that in many of the States • your. ,order
has, solemnly repudiated all responsibility for
the doctrines you., have been deliberately ad
voCating ,
Know-nothing. I do not conceive myself
bound by the action of the councils of those
States.
berdocrat. Then- you belong to a , party
which.differs in one of its essential princi
ples, which professes in one part of the
country to be liberal and tolerant to the Cath
olics,:and in another undertakes to persecute
and proscribe them after the fashion of the
olden times.
Know-nothing. I assert that, notwithstan
ding the declaration of the councils you have
alluded to, the practice of the American or
der is - that of unexceptionable hostility to the
principles of the Catholic Church-
Democrat. True; and what a confession
you have made to me in this ! You assert
that the profession, the pledge, the solemn
declaration of your own brothers. your own
friends, your own confederates, is a falsehood
and a cheat. You assert that their proclama
tion of liberality to the Catholic is a fraud.—
Now, I will say that none of the old parties
have ever yet been thus' publicly convicted
of tampering with the feelings and the sup
posed credulity of the American people.
Know-nothing. Well, if we needed author
ity and precedents for this, we could find it :
in the acts of the Jesuits, who, with all their
seeming sanctity and avoidance of , politics,
are constantly taking part in party struggles,
and managing nominations and conventions.
Democrat. And you believe this too !
Now, let me put a series of questions to you,
which f intend as home questions.. Who arc
the leading abolitionists of the United States?
Who are the • men that keep alive the
dissentious between the North and the
South Who are the men that rail upon
the people of the slave • States Who are
the' men that preach discord from the pul
pit? • Who are the men that make politics
paramount to religion, and who lead in the"
division of Christian churches ? To what
denominations did the three thousand preach
ers who protested against the passage of the
Nebraska bill belong? Who are . the men
that have drawn temperance into politics,?—
Who are the men who seek to elevate the
black to a social level with the whites An
swer me fairly. Can you lay your hand up
on a single Catholic who has appeared in
any of these politico-religious demonstra
tions 2
Know-nothing. I admit :that r am unable
to name any Catholic who has done so.
Democrat. And yet you have just now
made a, sweeping charge upon the Jesuits,
which you are manifestly- unable to sustain,
and not only to sustain, but You are compel
led to admit that almost the same charge you
make against them is true of others.
Know-nothing. I perceive that your oppo
sition to the . American order is rapidly ten
ding to opposition to thei.Protestant Church
and, vice versa, to a championship of the
Catholic creed.
•Democrat. You perceive no such thing.—
You perceive only•that all proscription, such
as that in which you are engaged, is certain
to.end in the elevation and increased power
of the very people you proscribe. Let me ap
peal to you as a man of generous sensibilities:
you are passing along the street, and if you
see a dog beset by half a dozen curs of low
degree, do you not feel impelled to rush in
and protect him from his enemies or, you
see a dozen-ruffians falling foul of an unpro
tected man; do you not kindle against these
violators of manly courage, and take the side
of the weak?. Such is the history of all reli
gious persecutions; and I am no more a Cath
olic, or the friend of his creed,' because I de
fend him against blind and infatuated perse
cution, than was the eloquent divine, Chal
mers—that star and guide of the Protestant
Church—when he threw the 'weight of his
great intellect. against religious intolerance
in Great Britain, and resisted' tWawscf dis
qualification heaped upon theWatholies::--
The truth is you.are•making Catholics much
more rapidly than the priests themselves,-for
while you are denouncing the- power of the
Church and.deolaring your rdetermination to
put it.down, and rallying others to disfran
chise,all_who belong to it; and in all this ma
king no exception; striking down the purest
citizens, even depriving poor female school
teachera of.tbeir livelihood .because of their .
attachment to this church—while all -this:is
passing before our .eyes; , hundreds and • thou
sands whahaveLheretotore bean opposed to
the Catholic Church, and who have belieVed
all that ; their own pastors have told them in
regard to it, find themselves changing if not
in favor of the doctrines of the Church' 'of
Rome . , at least in favor of those who belofig to
it, and who, in many cases, are their intimate
friends and neighbors.
Know-nothing. Will'you let me ask you
why it is that so many of tbe democratic pa
pers and leaders have conceived it to be their
dtity to find fault with Protestant clergymen
simply 'because such clergymen have exerci
sed the -right , of • opinion?: loan recollect,
when -I was a democrat; how kindly wecher
jelled all ministers of the 'Gospel who were
kno - wn , to agree with us in • political, senti
.
ment. • •
.Democrat. It" 'have never known an in- -
stance in which dernocratie paper has cen- .
sured.a clergyman, unless where that clergy- .
man has deemed it consistent with. his obli
gations to' the Divine example to interfere
publicly and offensively in politics • and if
this is wrong, you should blame all 'those
truly Christian pastors who are constantly re
buking their own brethren for intermeddling
Ji
in abolitionism and know-nothingism. To
.
what denomination do you belong?
Know-nothing. I am a member of the
Methodist Church, have seen enough of
Catholic influence to have made up my mind
that the American order is the- only way to
put it down; and, therefore, while I have de
plored. many of the expressions of Methodist
clergymen, still I can forgive triuch. of their
feelings when. I know how the laity them
selves think on this exciting subject. -
Democrat. I understarid you, when you
speak of the know-nothing order, as being a
member of that order in fail communion?
•" Know-nothing. 'Yes, and I am not asham
ed to : say so.
Democrat. Well, then, I take the ground
that you, as a member of the Methodist
Church, in attaching yourself to such an order
as the know-nothing order, directly violate
the discipline of the church as well as some
of the main articles of faith. I prove this by
citing the following passage in the discipline
of the Methodist Church, of which you are
an active arid prothinent member
' "As we confess that vain and rash swear
ing is fotbidden Christian men by our Lord
Jesus Christ, - and by James, His apostle, so
we judge that the Christian religion loth
not prohibit, but that a man may swear when
the magistrate requireth in a cause of faith
and charity, so it be done according to the
prophet's teaching, in justice, judgment, and
truth."
This "article of faith" is avowedly based
upon what is said by our Saviour in Mat
thew, v. 34 :
."But I say unto you, swear not at all;
neither by Heaven for it-is God's throne; nor
by the earth, for it is His footstool ; neither
by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the 'Great
King. But let your communication be yea,
yea ; nay, nay; for whatsoever is more than
these cometh
And'on the injunction in the General Epts
tle of James, v. 12 :
"But z above all things, my brethren, swear
not, neither by Heaven, neither by the earth,
neither by any other oath ; but let your yea
be yea, and your nay be nay, lest ye fall into
condemnation." •
You will see that the• disciplhie of .you
church, though it does not go so far as the
practise of the Quakers, must be considered
as prohibiting you from taken all such extra-
Indical oaths'as you have taken as a member
of therknew-flothing order. Now answer me
frankly ; had yol this article of your faith in
your mind When you entered the lodge and
before and.upon the Holy Evangelists took
the terrible oath that you would obey the de=
crees of the order,"on penalty of being de
nounced as a,wilful .traitor to your God and
your country?"
Know-nothing.. You have presented a
new view in the contrast between my religi
ous and my.political obligations—one upon
which I shall deeply reflect.
Democrat. But lam not quite through
with you as a member of. the Methodist
Church. The brightest ornament of your de
nomination in his day and generation, ..the
celebrated Dr. Adam Clark, in his commen
taries uses the following admonition to all
Methodists : "He that useth any • oath i'mcept
that which he is solemnly called by the mag
istrate to make, so.far.from being a Christian,
;toes not deserve the reputation of decency
t, e.s ouL ..............
or common sense."
Know-nothing. At any rate., if lam wrong
in_ my hostility to the Catholics, and in my
union with the American order in order to
gratify that sentiment, lam no more wrong
than the illustrious John Wesley, the foun
der and father of Methodism.
Democrat. But you' would not surely quote
John Wesley's opinion in Support of your ac
lion now, because if you should do so, you
would also be compelled to support his opini
ons in favor of Church and State, and his
opinions on civil government; and f know
you do not support them. The politioaldoe
trines anvocated by him have been exploded
upon these shores, and you should recollect
That when he spoke of the Catholics he spoke
under very different circumstances from
those which now exist. Your church aught
to be the last church .to unite against the
foreigner or against the Catholic.
Know-nothing. Why so ?-
Democrat. Why, simply because the his
tory of your church is a warning against in
tolerance and persecution. Methodist preach
ers• were treated with contempt, stoned, and
thrown into prisons—and by whom ? Not
by catholics , , but by Protestants; and you
must not forget that the first Methodist soci
ety organized in this country .was composed ;
'Of Irish emigrants. Philip Embury, who or- I
ganized this society, was an Irish emigrant,'
and the pioneers of Methodism in Maryland
were all Irish emigrants.
Nnow-nothing. - You Certainly have presen
ted •some . data ich I have 'never yet heard
; of, but there is one point, I presurne,' upon
which both . you ,and I,- will agree—and Abat
is, ttie importance, of se 'limiting the facilities
to citizenship presented by our laws to' 'fore- 1
icrners as to check the undue influence which
they, now- wield in our-elections.. 1
Democrat. How do you propose to check
this int:Wet - ice?: :• ..'- • • .
Know-nothing. By a ; thorough amendment
of the naturalization laws. •
Democrat: Do you think a national party
necessary to effect such a modification? •••- •
•KnoW-pothing. Certainly. .I 'do, because
Congress has power over the• whole subject.
Democrat. You do not, then,' believe • •that
the respective States, have the sole right to
define what is citizenship-within their bor
ders 1 ,
KnoW-nothing. I only. look to the fact that
the five years term of "naturalization was fix
ed in a law' of Congress.
DemoCrat. But you overlook the other fact,
that in a number of the. States foreigners are
allowed to vote after they have been in the
country a much less period, and also that our
leading statesmen have• come to . the conclu
sion that the whole subject is within State
jurisdiction.
Know-nothing. It matters little to me how
the object is aceomplished, whether by na
tional or State legislation.
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Democrat. Bnt if by the latter, it-' super
sedes a national organization entirely,' so far
asqhe amendment of , the naturalizationAaWs
is concerned,'and that 'is about all that le•left
of your creed. I will, however, ans wer-your
question frankly, and say that the attempt to
limit the term of naturalization would •only
be fetter upon future emigration, and would
operate to the disadvantage of •th 3 best -inter
ests of the country: I. am, therefore,unlies
itatingly opposed to such modification:
Know-nothing. I wish you to understand
me that I am not opposed to emigration, nor
do I.understand the Ameriean party 'as be
ing opposed to it.
Democrat. But this seems to me to, be a
new • piece of inconsistency. You #ay you
are in favor of emigration and yet are for
throwing obstacles in the way of emigration.
• Knot.v•-notlaiug,. I hope you will not say to
me that the amendment of the 'naturalization
laws will have any effect to rednce emigra
tion.
Democrat. I say so most unequivocally. I
not only allege that it will do so,-but that it
has done'so ; that the mere menace of amen
ding the naturalization' laws, of shortening
the term of probation, added to the scandalous
mummeries and violence on the part of the
know-nothing ordor, have excited distrust On
the part of the people, and exultation on the
part of the'monarchs of Europe. Some of the
leading newspapers in Germany have liberal
ly discussed the know- nothing movement iu
the United States, and have admonished the
German people against trusting themselvei
in this country. •
Know-nothing. Well, it must come sooner
or lifter, for it cannot be denied that thou
sands 'and tens of thousands of those who land
upon our shores, even after they have been
naturalized, are incapable of appreciating our,
institutions and of becomeing in heart citizens
upon whom the glorious right of suffrage is
conferred.
Democrat. Your beau ideal of a citizen
and a voter is that a man should be native
born. Well, we have had some exhibitions
of the fitness of such Americans as you are
anxious should rule America within the last
few weeks; not to speak of Louisville or of
Cincinnati, let us refer to what has just taken
place in New Orleans and in Maryland.—
Here we find the men you set up as patterns
of intelligence and of decency illustrating
their devotion to American institutions by
going armed to the ballet-boxes, by driving
off those whe are opposed to them ill politics,
by knocking down like beasts the adopted
citizens, by overthrowing the ballot-boxes,
creating the officers of election, and by open
ly threatening to deluge the streets with
blood, rather than allow those to vote, Whose
rights are guarantied by bur constitution and
our laws. These are the men whom you
hold up to me as eminently competent—nay,
as the men who should alone be permitted to
vote.
Know-nothing. But you must not condemn
the whole American-order because of the vio
lence of a few of its hotheaded members.
Democrat. Alas! I am not now referring to
the exemptions, but to the rule. 1 am not
referring to rare, but to common occurrences.
There is not a city or a town in the Union in
which - your order boasts any - considerable
number of men in which more or less of,vio
lence and fraud are riot ressored to. In some
places you secure all the officers of the elec
tion, and compel them to disregard their own
solemn oaths to act according to the laws of
the State in which they serve, and to obey'
only the mandates of your secret order; in
others you pack juries, so.as to rescue the
guilty from punishment; and in more than
one instance yon have been known by sheer
force of numbers to intimidate - the judges up
on the bench. It is this example; 1 repeat,
that you hold up before the American - youth
and before the people of the Old World as a .
sublime specimen of pare Americanism..
will conclude this picture of know-northing'
misrule in the United States by giving - yoii a
description of a far-distant country, away-Off
on the eastern shores of Asia, in which know
nothing doctrines have been practically illus
trated for seven hundred years. The Louis
ville
Courier - says:
"No foreign foot may .tread, that soil, no
foreign eye profane 'its sights. Foreigner ,
and devil are synonymous terms irt - the 4an- '
guage spoken in that - happy realm. There
are no emigrants, there-- 7 -no naturalization.
laws, no foreign vote 7 -the one great funda
mental principal of gpvernment is, that none
but Japanese shall rule' Japan. They hale
the Pope, they .mob, the missionary, they
trample under foot the cross, they. keep our
a foreign ship, whether it comes in famine.or
distress. When the stranger begs for - bread .
they. give him a stone—sometimes a - doien or
two at once. No foreigner votes there:— -
There is,no Bible there, .no Catholic Orphan
Asylums, no Catholic Sisters of Charity, no
honesty, no integrity 'in the' judiciaiy; no
Safety. for the stranger..; no': respect :for. God
no ships,arrive'there-laden with 'foreign me- , '-
chanics i • and ho.ships depart;' their :living
freight.replaced 7ar. t ricuitaiai product:ii •nu..
horde of unedudated.Germans and Irish come
between the wind'and Japanese nobility,'ancl
the CenseqUence is that mines of - coal 'and
iron lie worthless in the ground. ll
• Haw do_yon like the picture?
Know-nothing.- It is: , an ingeniouSt
ment,. I. admit ; but stiil you must indulge me
in the honest belief. that I am for Americans
:ruling, AMerica. •„ : . •
, ,
•- Democrat. The• sentiment of Americans
ruling America suits me exactly. I have
ways been in favor of that ; but T will thank
you to tell me what' kind of you
mean shall rule ' Do you mean such
an Arnericati as Santa Anria, 'who began • his
career by driving all the foreigneis out of his -
eduatry, Americans and Spaniards, bYlaking - .
by the hand the negroes of MeXicoi and en
ded it by proclaiming "himself Emperor? or ,
do you mean Soulongue now, 'called Faeatin
the First, who began - his career'by itr7ving"'
all the foreigners out of the '
instituting a monarchy, in whiCh the.riegrnes
controlled everything, and finally: Made him' -
Emperor?-Are t hese theArherican s that ycia•
would have rule America ? Or, to come
down to our own time, will you have such