Thornburgh talks
about student aid,
TMI and PennDOT
Editor's Note: On Friday, Daily Collegian staff
members interviewed Gov. Dick Thornburgh
about issues of University and statewide concern.
The following is the first part of that interview,
which focuses on various state issues. It has been
edited for length and clarity. The second part of
the interview, focusing on University and general
education issues, will appear in tomorrow's
Collegian.
COLLEGIAN: Concerning the auto emissions
bill, do you see any solution to the failure to reach
a compromise?
THORNBURGH: We simply must resolve this.
We've got 40,000 jobs in Pennsylvania, working
men and women, that we stand to lose at a time
when we have a very high unemployment rate,
yet ihis impasse in the legislature continues.
There is obviously some very petty, vindictive
politics being played and its stalled the resolution
of this problem.
It's ironic to me that the very time that we have
succeeded in taking a discredited PennDOT (Pa.
Department of Transportation) and turning it
into what is referred to as one of the finest public
works agencies in the nation and an operation
that has gone from dead last to first in drawing on
federal highway funds, that we now stand on a
threshold of losing an entire construction year in
our major metropolitan cities simply due to
petty, partisan politics. Unfortunately,. I don't
have a vote in the General Assembly, but it
simply must be resolved..
COLLEGIAN: When DeWitt Smith resigned
two days after being confirmed by the state
Senate as the secretary of the Department of
Environmental Resources, he was quoted as
saying he "would not reign while someone else
rules," implying that DER is being manipulated
by the governor's office. What were the reasons
for the recent shake-up in DER and how involved
should your office be in DER's operations?
THORNBURGH: We set the policy for the
Department of Environmental Resources let
there be no mistake about that. No chief
executive of any governmental unit, or business,
or university or labor union can allow
subordinates to set.policy direction. The so-called
"shake:up at DER involved the replacemeht of
two people, one of whom was a deputy secretary
and the other a press secretary.
The change was made to incorporate what we
felt was better management techniques and new
faces to try to upgrade their capability in that
area.
There was nothing sinister about it. These are
changes that were made in most of the
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Shultz trip marks judgment by Reagan administration
By R. GREGORY NOKES
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON The trip by Secretary
of State George P. Shultz to the Middle East
reflects a judgment by the Reagan
administration that agreement on a troop
withdrawal from Lebanon is the key to
progress on an overall Middle East peace.
The administration had been reluctant to
tie the two issues so closely together
because it might encourage Israel to stand
pat in Lebanon, knowing it could block
overall Middle East talks that could
threaten its control of the occupied West
Validity of Hitler's
diary
By MARK S. SMITH
Associated Press Writer
LONDON The publication of
diary excerpts purportedly
written by Adolf Hitler has set off
a debate among historians who
insist the papers are authentic and
experts and former Hitler aides
who believe they are one of
history's most elaborate frauds.
The Sunday Times of London
published selections from the 60
diaries in which the Nazi dictator
speaks with contempt of his
propaganda chief Joseph
Goebbels, of SS commander
Heinrich Himmler and of other
Third Reich figures and suggests
that Europe's Jews "should be
sent to sea and the boats sunk."
Hitler's attempt to exterminate
the .Jews led to the death of 6
million in Nazi concentration
camps during World War 11.
The West German magazine
Stern, which originally acquired
the diaries along with hundreds of
other documents and unpublished
book manuscripts purportedly by
Hitler, is to publish excerpts
today,
is questioned
Two of Hitler's personal aides
were quoted yesterday as saying
the bound notebooks said to
have been found in a plane wreck
by a German army officer and
hidden in his hayloft for 35 years
are fakes, according to the
Hamburg weekly Bild Am
Sonntag.
• "The discovery of Hitler's
alleged diaries is one of the many
fairy-tale lies that we have known
sincel,the war," said Hitler's
Luftwaffe adjutant Nicolas von
Below, according to Bild Am
Sonntag. "We often sai until three
or four at night and Hitler would
then go to bed. He had no more
time to write."
Another aide quoted by the
paper, Richard Schulze-Kossens,
asked, "When could Hitler have
written these 60 diaries?"
The Sunday Times said the
diaries had been authenticated by
a team of scientists and
handwriting experts including
Max Frey-Zuler, head of the
Zurich police scientific branch,
' and American graphologist
Ordway Milton of the University Of
South Carolina.
the
daily
Bank and Gaza Strip.
But Arab leaders, such as Egyptian
President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's
King Hussein, have made clear to the
administration that Reagan's Middle East
peace initiative is nowyirtually dead
without a prior agreement on a withdrawal
of Israeli troops from Lebanon.
Reagan decided Friday to send Shultz to
the region to make a final push for an accord
for Israel to withdraw its 25,000 troops from
Lebanon, after which he will try to get a
withdrawal of Syrian and Palestine
Liberation Organization forces.
Shultz left by airplane yesterday evening
olle • ian
from Andrews Air Force Base for Cairo. He
also will visit Lebanon and Israel, and may
engage in shuttle-type diplomacy, if
necessary, to get the final agreement. He
might also visit Syria.
Shultz, who has not visited the Middle
East during his nine months as secretary of
state, was said by aides to doubt whether the
ingredients for success were there, and that
Anything goes
Amused onlookers at tho Phi Psi 500 Saturday watch as different creations parade by them. Some participants used more
imagination than others In their costumes. Please see story Page 5.
analysis
Union leader
arrested by
govt.
Polish
By BRYAN BRUMLEY
Associated Press Writer
WARSAW, Poland The
Communist government
yesterday announced the arrest of
a key underground Solidarity
strategist, the latest in a series of
detentions apparently aimed at
undercutting the union's call for
May Day protests.
Jozef Pinior, one of five fugitive
Solidarity leaders who met with
former union chief Lech Walesa on
April 9-11, was taken into police
custody in his home town of
Wroclaw, according to a dispatch
by the official Polish news agency
PAP.
The report did not specify when
Pinior was arrested. The
announcement was made one day
before Walesa was to return to his
job as an electrician at the Lenin
Shipyard in Gdansk, where he
helped lead the August 1980 strikes
that created Solidarity.
The 39-year-old labor leader
said the decision to give his job
back was intended in part to help
authorities keep track of him and
thereby curtail his contacts with
the underground.
However, Walesa's readmission
to the shipyard also puts him in
direct contact with the 17,000 yard
workers who are his most avid
followers and who have been much
involved in labor unrest for more
than a decade.
Walesa, who reports to the
shipyard for a medical
examination this morning, said, "I
feel great. And I feel I owe the
working people a huge debt for
their patience and support."
Asked to comment on Pinior's
detention, Walesa said,
"Accidents happen in this kind of
his trip would therefore raise expectations
that might not be met.
But last Monday's terrorist bombing at
the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, which left 17
Americans among the dead, led the
administration to conclude it had to
demonstrate its commitment to seeing a
satisfactory outcome in Lebanon and a
broader overall peace that addresses the
needs of Palestinians in Israeli-occupied
territories.
The White House is gambling, however,
that sending Shultz will bring concessions
from Israel's Prime Minister Menachem
Begin and key Arab leaders that they
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work. But 100 others will rise up to
replace Pinior."
About 6,000 Solidarity
supporters gathered last night at
St. Stanislaw Kostka's church in
northern Warsaw for a Mass.
Similar pro-Solidarity services
have been held on the last Sunday
of nearly every month since the
declaration of martial law on Dec.
13, 1981.
Little is known about Pinior,
who was treasurer of the
Solidarity chapter in Lower Silesia
before the martial law crackdown.
A few days before the military
crackdown, Pinior withdrew 80
million zlotys ($940,000 at official
exchange rates) from the union's
coffers and is believed to have
spent the money in the
underground campaign to restore
Solidarity, once the only union in
thoPli.gt bl9c, I'm of Communist
Party control:
Solidarity was suspended with
the . martial law declaration and
outlawed last October.
Walesa, interrogated three
times after his clandestine
meeting with the Solidarity
underground, said police
questioned him about Pinior and
the money, but that he refused to
answer.
weren't persuaded to make by lower-level
officials.
In an interview published in Sunday
editions of The Washington Post, Shultz was
quoted as saying Arab leaders may now be
regretting Hussein's refusal to negotiate
with Israel along the lines proposed by
Reagan last September.
"It does seem to me that there's a certain
shock that has taken hold, as I read the
cables from the various Arab capitals, in
which people are saying to themselves: 'Are
we really going to pass this up? Maybe we
can't afford to do that.
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Photo by Karon Solat
The detention •of
Jozef Pinior is the
latest in a series of
detentions
apparently aimed at
undercutting the
union's call for May
Day protests.
inside
• One of the reasons for the
last year's statewide decrease of
reported serious crimes is that
the most likely offenders are
getting older
• Throwing water balloons and
riding tricycles aren't typical
activities for college students,
but anything goes this week in
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weather
Mostly cloudy and cool today
with a chance of showers, high
of 49. Clearing and cold tonight,
low of 37. Mostly sunny and
pleasant tomorrow, high near 65.
—by Craig Wagner
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