2—The Daily Collegian Graduating an uncertain Continued from Page 1 majors business, engineering and computer science. Another reason is because Univer sity graduates often prove to be as sets to the company that hires them, he said. "We don't have a visibility problem employers know we exist," Bucher said. "The problem is they don't have the money to come up here." James Slick,• University assistant director of career information sys tems, agreed: "(Companies) have colleges in their own district, but, they still come up here to recruit. We're hot as bad off as other places." The number of offers companies are making is down as well, Slick said. The decline is caused in part because employers know students are receiving less offers and are therefore more likely to accept an offer. If during a normal year a Company might have extended five offers to get one employee, this year the ratio is more like 2-to-1 or some times even 1-to-4 because students are aware of job market, he said. "Students are accepting offers ear lier in the year and not shopping around," Slick said. However, all the news is not bad. "Even in instances where we're seeing decreases in placement rates, in general, we're seeing increases in salaries," Slick said. Starting salaries are a better long term indicator of the job market while placement rates are short-term indicators, he said. Not all the salary news is positive. The survey by Michigan State's placement office reported that al though starting salaries will increase this year by an average of 2.8 Monday, April 18, 1983 percent the increase will be the smallest in the past 10 years. And althvgh the number of re cruiters and offers coming through Penn State's Career Development and Placement Center has de creased, the number of students looking for jobs through the center has increased, Bucher said. In Fall Term alone, 4,863 students_ registered for interviews compared to about 3,900 in 1981. As .a result of the tight job market, many students are submitting re quests for almost every company that is interviewing students in their ma jor, Bucher said. About 55,000 interview requests were submitted Fall Term compared to 56,000 for a full year in 1977. During Fall Term 1981, students submitted about 42,600 interview request forms; in Fall Term 1980, about 37,000 forms were submitted. "This fall, you turned in five re •quests to get one interview," he said. Employers are upset at this exces sive volume because if overwhelms their recruiting system. Asa result, this may make the use of arbitrary cutoffs, such as grade point averages, and may work against the students who are flooding the system. "Volume is going to kill you. It is a self-defeating strategy to turn in more and more interview requests," he said. Instead of submitting massive quantities of interview request forms, Bucher suggested students submit class job faces market forms for companies they are inter ested in and research the compa nies more extensively. "Do your homework. Research the company. It'll really pay off later," Bucher said. The problem of too many students wanting interviews is not unique to the University either. At some colleges where no pre screening is done by the company, students have camped outside place ment centers overnight to sign up for interviews. Other schools have started bidding systems where stu dents are given a certain number of points per term with which to bid for interviews, according to The Wall Street .Journal. Other schools have reported that some companies are coming to cam pus to maintain a presence on cam pus, with no intention of extending any offers, the Journal also reported. However, Bucher said this has not happened at Penn State because some companies have, had poor re sults when they tried this in the past. The companies lose credibility with students and spend money for noth ing. If a company simply wants to keep its name on campus, it can do it for a lot less money by sending speak ers to various club meetings. However, he said, "A number are saying, 'We're hiring fewer.' " According to the College Place ment Council, the job market de clined in almost every field this year with the exceptions of math and sci ence graduates. The council is pro jecting a 5 percent decline in 1983 overall. The number of openings for engi neers will decline by 12 percent this year, and the number of jobs for E-Z OFF WEIGHT CONTROL T.M. DIET AIDS BY MAIL Now you can order by mail, in the privacy of your own home. No Worries No Problems Our diet aids-capsules and tablets-contain the strongest appetite suppressant without a prescription. 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Among the Michigan State study findings were the following forecasts: • Physics: "Steep decline in op portunities." _ . • Personnel administration: "Big slide in work,opportunities." • Corhmunications: "Modest cut back in hirings." • Hotel and restaurant manage ment: "Small drop of 7 percent in jobs." • Social sciences: "Decline of less than 10 percent." • Education: "About one-tenth fewer jobs." .... , : , ;; ;: } , n , ::.:—.4..... .pf5..:,..:.;i:,iy,:::,1,Ef f ,. , %. : :: • :. * , •:' , ::: , :-4. , :iik, ' , .:: :i 40.:.:1,i,.:. : !:9* . r:... ;7...% ; , ::”..% ..)::.:Nz,.........: I s f '1 4 : "V . . 101 , , - ; .., i..L , ,,,.... '':':''' til l .„.., ~... ( titd,CAR -2 - '..'*--1 ,3 .r.:::%,i,..,.. ~ ,,i,:t> . ,„..4% ,...,..,,,,,, c 1.,..,,,,,,,,,,,n ;, .., i:i*:•:l:;':'.*:%Zsi:4ssl? ~.f:,.... ~.k....'i:Afie:Ziri.o::W.:, . t:OKigr:re; :l i::.,..o :: s i , i:i*:iffe , : : :::::;"P . .....:Ii:*:r.X*.i.::40:i;,:%%.°3;:'0,:,.., : : : : : :4 ;?::::::K.::::::::, : : : :ZSA ::: .. 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By shaving .13 seconds off of the fraternity division's winning time, Elliot's Boys,performed the most 1/3 mile laps around Old Main ,in the shortest time. In the two other divisions,a group representing the Women's Soccer Team ran 24 laps to cop first place in the independent women's division and Phi Mu sorority took first place in the sorority division with an equal amount of laps. The independent team clocked in the faster time, beat ing Phi Mu by .4 seconds. Event Chairman Andy Nachamie estimates that through canning and the entrance fees from the 67 partici pating teams, about $5,300 was raised for' the fraternity's scholarship pro gram for University handicapped stu dents. Nachamie said the event went smoothly and the marathon was a "very fun and competitive event." He said not many runners complained about the cold, adding that at least the weather was an improvement on the rain, sleet and snow endured last year. :;U- , Toddler's Denim Overall 11.97 Ladies' Denim Skirt 14.47 Girls' Shorts 5.97 Joe Cringle (9th-mechanical engineering) hands off to Marshall Carpenter (9th•petroleum and natural gas enginee the Delta Chi Marathon this weekend. After a ceremony last night to award trophies and medallions to first, second, and third place winners, Chi Omega sorority team member Melissa Wiedemann said: "Mentally, I felt really good, but physically ugh." She said the encouragement of her friends kept her going. Monica Seelaus said her team ran Saturday at 1:30 a.m. "All the drunkards were out cheering for us," she said. Marathon winners are as follows: I+ , s going all night '• Fraternity Division: (1) Mike Hanlon, Walt Kleemeier, Bill Klee meier and Pete Dooley of Sigma Pi; (2) Acacia fraternity; (3) Tau Kappa Epsilon fraternity. • Sorority Division: (1) Marcy McCormick, Jenny Reed, Tammy Klase and Karen Ann Dallas of Phi Mu; (2) Chi Omega; (3) Kappa Kap pa Gamma sorority. • Men's Independent Division: (1) Dave Long, Dan Green, Joe Racama- ,1 11 , 1 r t ir o • , ' U S PVI I 14 ? sik • ArTliN M4i Collegian Monday, April 18, 1983-3 The Dail to, and Bruce Kowalczyk of "Elliot's Boys"; (2) K.P. Gang members Se kulich, Parmelee, Nichter and Cham; berlin; (3) McGoogap, Murach, Reiss and Knott of Short Circuit. • Women's Independent Division: (1) Bonnie Fuhrman, Nancy Get chell, Monica Seelaus and Barb Hen ry of the women's soccer team; (2) Speicher, Powlen, Boggs and Klingl er; (3) Scarcia, Reimer, Sweet and Bauer.