the daily collegian editorial opinion Students are about to lose their vote on the Centre Area Transportation Authority board. They deserve it. When the Centre Regional Council of Gov ernments meets this month, it will consider a proposal that would eliminate the student seat on the CATA board. Instead, students would have two seats on an advisory board, along with representatives from the senior citizens, handicapped people and riders-at-large. The advisory board would have no poli cymaking power, but would suggest policy to the new CATA board, which would contain representatives from each of the municipali ties served by the bus service. Should students have their vote taken away? In principle, the answer should be an em phatic no. Students compose more than half of Centre Line's ridership, and many off-campus students depend on the buses td get them to and from classes. Also, both off- and on-campus students rely on CATA to get around to places like the Nittany Mall. But in reality, apathy has prevented students from being effectively , represented on the CATA board. Linda Roosa, the student representative last year, said last year that students never gave her suggestions or criticisms. Furthermore, the student CATA seat has been empty for months while the Undergrad uate Student Government tried to find students Britain used Catholic Church against IRA Last week, the IRA hunger strike went down like a sinking ship. For some time the relatives of hunger strikers had been throwing them life preservers by asking prison officials to provide intravenous feeding, and last week the Irish National Liberation Army announced that it was abandoning ship and would provide no -more strikers. Finally the IRA put its last six protesters in a life boat and bailed out too. In the wake of the disaster, the prinie ministers of, Biitain and Ireland were sitting high and dry like two rescued lovers, while Irish Republican spokesmen thrashed around in the water like deranged Ahabs looking for a great white whale to blame for the debacle. When they found their prey, it was none other than that treacherous spawn of Rome: the Catholic Church. • lan Paisley could not have written a better 'cript. Meg Thatcher and Garrett Fitz slip grace fully out of the picture, while the two most powerful institutions in Ireland, nationalism and Catholicism, prepare to do battle. It was not always this way. At one time, Catholic priests, trained in Europe because semi haries were illegal in Ireland, served as the nucleus of Irish nationalism. But after Father John Murphy laid down his breviary in 1798 and Dearly chased the English into the sea with an army of peasants, the British government decid ed it would be better to train Irish priests at home Diffuse the bomb By Vicki Markley-Sairs Graduate -Spanish • "Normally I'd spit in the face of anyone making the arguments you're making. But you two are very dear to me . . ." • So ran a conversation that my husband and I fiad with a good friend who'd just discovered we're pro-life. He's a compassionate person and a committed Marxist; we're Christians. forum We're obviously very different, and yet our love and respect for each other as human beings enabled us to sit in the diner for three hours and discuss a topic that can bring normally sedate people to blows. What is it about abortion that arouses such tension and hostility? Part of the reason must be that people on opposite sides of the issue tend to view each other as somewhat less than human. Many leftists, feminists, peace activists and anti nukers automatically link a pro-life position with reactionary right-wing politics, and their idea of a typical pro-lifer is someone who's suspiciously clean-cut, has actively campaigned for Reagan, has it in for the poor and the blacks and will only make love with pajamas on. ,- On the other side of the fence we have many 'Pro-lifers who are convinced that pro-choice peo ple are moral midgets, man-hating feminists and other assorted misfits who are hell-bent on per irerting the American way of life. • Fortunately, real people are more complex than the stereotype we insist on manufacturing for them. A good friend of mine is a pillar of the local pro-life movement. She also verges on being a total pacifist, is a fervent Catholic, won't touch meat, is anti-nuke and gets the National Review. What category can we squeeze her into? Another friend of mine is an original dumpster rat, an old-time eco-freak and all-around counter- opinions Apparently students don't want CATA vote No say to fill it. Vicki Sandoe left the seat after Spring Term 1980 and Roosa was not appointed to fill the seat until Winter Term. Roosa graduated last spring and the seat has remained vacant since then. USG President Bill Cluck said he has waited to fill the seat pending the CATA reorganization. In principle, students should have a vote. But in reality, no one deserves a vote who doesn't use it. Now is not the time to berate students for their apathy; however, this is a good example of what happens to power when it isn't used. A student representative of any type who receives little input, and who only serves for short, erratic terms, cannot be effective. Rep resentation is a privilege that cannot be taken for granted. Provided that the CATA board is responsive to the transit authority advisory committee, students will still have an avenue to present their problems and suggestions to CATA if they choose to. In principle, students should have a position on the CATA board, where they can affect policies with a vote. In reality, it just doesn't work that way. The Daily Collegian's editorial opinion is determined by its Board of Opinion, with the editor-in-chief holding final responsibility. where they could keep an eye on them. Shortly afterwoods, the British built the semi nary at Maynooth, and the Irish clergy became more complacent and less revolutionary. For almost two hundred years the church and the nationalists remained at odds and kept the coun try devided for the British. Then Bobby Sands changed everything. With the death of Sands, Ireland had its first popular martyr since the Lord Mayor of Cork, Terence McSwiney, starved himself to death sixty years ago. The status of the IRA soared; the hunger strikers became folk heroes, the govern ment collapsed, and two IRA prisoners surprised everyone by getting elected to the Irish parlia ment. A wave of popular sentiment was threatening to engulf the entire-country and unite it behind the hunger strikers. If the Catholic clergy were culture peacenik, and guess what? He doesn't think abortion is cool Yet stereotypes usually contain a little kernel of truth. Not all pro-lifers are pro-bomb, but Many are. Not all pro-choicers actively advocate abor tion as a good solution to a problem pregnancy, but many do. Pro-lifers often question how peace people can oppose all forms of violence, and yet allow suction curettes and salt poisoning to be used on the unborn. Pro-choicers, on the other hand, wonder why so many pro-lifers seem more concerned about the lives of the unborn than about those of us who are already out here in the cold cruel world, i.e., how can people be pro-life and yet support an administration that pours In this case it's best to heed reality. A-S l cer44. cce rlorAo- caught in the swelling tide of nationalism, the British would be faced with a situation similar to the one confronting the Russians in Poland. The British needed a wedge to drive between, the hunger strikers and the clergy, and they found it in the families of the hunger strikers. From the beginning, Margaret Thatcher's hard line policy ruled out any attempt to prevent the men from starving themselves to death. But prison officials told the relatives of the dying men that they would save the life of an unconscious hunger striker only if his family requested them to do so. This way when an inmate went into a coma, his decision to die slipped through his hands and fell into his mother's lap. At first the families resisted this unnatural pressure, but as time went on more and more relatives succumbed and asked the officials to take their sons off the strike involuntarily. Commenting on this in Belfast, a Republican spokesman, Richard McAuley, claimed that the British never could have broken the strike without the help of the Catholic clergy. McAuley said that after an unsuccessful at tempt to soften the Biitish authorities in July, the Catholic hierarchy was faced with a choice of either denouncing the British publicly or breaking the strike, and they choose the easier of the two. He claimed that pressure was then put on the families by clergymen such as Bishop Daly of but don't abort babies billions into the war machine while cutting back on health care for pregnant women and infants? There seems to be some inconsistency on both sides, but the fact remains that both groups are made up of human beings who are, in their diverse ways, trying to protect human life. They have something in common, in spite of the incred ibly hostile rhetoric that often flies back and forth between them. They even have something to learn from each other, if they will only drop the stereo types long enough to see the human face of their opponents. In a sense, this dehumanization df the "enemy" is symptomatic of the same disease that has brought us to the point where one-half of our national budget goes toward paying for war and one-third of all pregnancies end in abortion. Dehumanization is in part a result of the cheap ening of the value of all life. All societies have deenied some forms of life more or less valuable than others. When one form of expendable life also happens to be human, it's easier to dispose of it if you blind yourself to its humanity. This is what happened in Vietnam when we heard about "body counts" instead of dead men, women and children. This is what is happening now when we hear about the "products of concep tion" when what we're actually talking about is an eight-week-old being with eyes, ears, nose, mouth, fingers, toes, a heart that beats, a brain that functions, and a body that can feel pain. This is what is happening when an expert on nuclear war such as Herman Kahn can say the following without flinching: "Embryonic deaths are of limited significapce. These are conceptions which would have been successful had it not been for radiation that damaged the germ cell. . . . There will probably be 100 million of these in future generations (after a limited nuclear war). On the whole, the human race is so fecund that a small reduction in fecundity should not be a serious matter even to individuals." In a society where 100 million deaths can be considered to be of "limited significance," it's no surprise that people have become adept at ignor- cbl.lo,lb BOVA BE /6' !Sag CENTS„t atar BerTER Minus„ H U RRY CAN. 18ji ' gm 4444 BUT, I No t moumr _ ii,„ Derry and Father Denis Faul, the Long Kesh prison chaplain who three times tried to persuade the father of Irish MP Kieran Doherty to inter vene on behalf of his son. In order to emphasize the enormous power which the Irish clergy has, McAuley pointed out that when Mother Theresa of Calcutta tried to open a convent in Belfast, an Irish bishop had it closed because he objected to having a foreign order of nuns in his diocese. No doubt the clergy will soon come up with a few rounds of rhetorical shrapnel of its own to fire at the Republicans, and the fight will go on. Both sides have their virtues: the Republicans are addressing legitimate social grievances, and priests must not council distraught mothers in the same manner as they do freedom fighters who are hell-bent on martyrdom. On the other hand, driving a Nobel Peace Prize winner out of Belfast is like driving a blood donor from a hemophilia ward, and by blaming its „ defeat on the clergy, the IRA is diverting atten tion from the real villain: the British government, which once again exposed its moral bankruptcy by adopting the ruthless tactics of a kidnapper and holding the lives of children hostage before their mothers rather than summoning up the moral fortitude to seek a solution on its own. Sean de Hora is a graduate student in history ing the humanity of their opponents and are willing to settle for shallow stereotypes. However, a fairly recent and very happy phe nomenon in the abortion controversy does offer some hope for those who are sick of the name calling and hysteria that have plagued the whole discussion. Individuals from both camps are starting to speak up and break down the old barriers. Closet pro-lifers are emerging on the left, and closet peaceniks are coming out in the pro-life movement. The Progressive ran a pro-life article by Mary Meehan in September 1980. The editors expected a flood of cancelled subscriptions, but what they got instead was a mountain of mail split 50-50 on the issue. A longtime peace activist named Juli Loesch, who came-to oppose abortion through , her work in the anti-nuclear movement, is working to bring people together - from both ends of the political spectrum on the issues of abortion and nuclear arms. Teaching about the effects of Plutonium 239 and X-ray and gamma radiation on the unborn led her to the inevitable question, "How can it be - wrong 'corporate crime' for little babies to be hurt accidentally or collaterally, if it's OK to poison them or tear them to pieces deliberately?" So in 1979 she gathered together a small band of like-minded oddballs who christened themselves Pro-lifers for Survival (P.S:), and began working .to promote dialogue between the peace and pro life movements. P.S. does not, as a group, work to change laws, but focuses instead on trying to change people's minds. I met Juli Loesch at the March 28 demonstra tion in Harrisburg, and since then some friends and I have started a local P.S. chapter. I was a little scared at first ("Oh, no, everybody's going to think I'm a fascist! ") but actually we're found a great deal of positive response to what we're saying. This forum is an invitation to discussion, and a good place for the dialogue to start might be Juli's talk tomorrow night in the HUB main lounge. Everybody's welcome right, left, cen ter and politically schizophrenic! Vlig? (495/ SORRY, Novi ITS ia„ 441 OOPSI WRONG AGAINII( 141144 =reader =opinion Channel energy In response to the article in Tuesday's issue of The Daily Collegian concerning the dissolving of the Volunteer Service Center, I'd like to share some thoughts and channel the students' positive energy in a positive direction. This fall, many students who are interested in helping others returned to discover that the VSC no longer existed. Even though the Center has been dissolved, for whatever reason, it is still possible to funnel your positive energy through a "service to others" organization. Alpha Phi Omega, a coed national service fraternity; Gam ma Sigma Sigma, national service sorority; and Circle K are the three main service organiza tions on campus. Our projects include many activities previous ly sponsored by the VSC. These activities not only involve service to the campus, but also to State College and neighboring communities. Whether it be sponsoring the Bloodmobile on campus every term, or visiting the residents of Centre Crest and other nursing homes, or even helping out other campus organizations we're involtred and there is no room for apathy. Our goal is service to others and to pick up where the VSC left off. Presently, Alpha Phi Omega and Gamma Sigma Sigma are located in 211 HUB, but at the beginning of Winter Term the three service organizations will be moving to a new office in 206 HUB. By sharing the office we feel that we may better coordinate our services and more effectively help others So for those of you who appreciated the activ ities of the VSC, it still exists but in a different form of organizations. Anyone is welcome to join us and use your excess energy productively remember, you can only make someone happy. Barbaia Gawronski, 10th-speech communica tion President, Alph'a Phi Omega national service fraternity Oct. 7 On giving There has been a lot of talk about donations. I don't donate, as a matter of belief, and so I do not avoid people, but say no. The reason is that in most cases the cause does not convince me. I believe that this country is the last to need donations for any cause and the money collected from these donations insignificant. Why don't people collect for the poor people in other parts of the world, where they really need support and where even a small amount can help a lot, or do these people believe, to hell with the world and its poor? Name withheld by request Oct. 9 zCollegiail Monday Oct. 12, 1981—Page 2 C:)1981 Collegian Inc. Paula Froke Debby Vinokur Editor Business Manager COMPLAINTS: News and editorial 'complaints should be presented to the editor. Business and advertising complaints should be presented to the business man ager. If the complaint is not satisfactorily resolved, grievances may be filed with the Accuracy and Fair Play Committee of Collegian Inc. Information on filing grievances is available from Gerry Lynn Hamilton, executive secretary, Collegian Inc. GSA task force still 'hoped for' Continued from Page 1. "I thought it came across that we were going to work with GSA to get a task force formed, and that it is only a 'hoped for' thing." Gross said GSA is working on the taxation problem and is "making recom mendations to the appropriate places and the administration." , "When we have something more con crete and definite, we'd love for it to be reported," Gross, said. "Everything is so tenuous we don't think it's proper at this time to report it. "GSA may feel it may compromise our . position it may be a violation of trust if we report through the Collegian things which are really in the proposal stages with the administration." Gross also said that it was incorrectly reported in last week's article that the annual GSA tax handbook would be is sued this month. The handbook, which provides grad uate students with tax advice, will be issued in January, he said. It is now in rough draft form, he said. However, Gross said there is an infor mational note in the GSA newsletter this month concerning the tax situation. vrom.%•,,,w,vspii7 ; fp? , 41W ( 'efinv f h.. N i t Pbsik4gi . 41. P ; 2IC -I .o' 01;0 e r /.4.:0;.31....,,t. w itit 04 1 1'4". 1 h. ( • * z71441/11.P.P, I , ift , ;i....b . egii , 4,.&,4V. ,,,,g i eArp. , 7 V ;•414 1 103 rell:l;Nik i : /4, ‘.4.1) . Y04 0 . : ';`% ' , ,v04/14Nyvi ..4 ; ~ep*, .. ., ~,,.p.../...„1.7.6, 4 4, ; - , 4640. , :g 2 fi. ,,, ,0 4 .* ,,,,pPz . i.e , , ,,b4: , , , .... 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StV e 5 • ew atevioS, t a vaciatio WOW gyOed pasO 0 , 14e laraous at the&yes 11 • • •,* • ......,Robzigso , ,cmg.k: 10.g.f.EN.M 4 Z4e4 : 210 .„,„ps'ilgalh' 4 4*o4o4 l lo 6 A. 0 : 0 ...a.,.A014.0044154444.9490tA004`. 1 0til ~,,,,1.5,01.4%**.z46120850*/s4,o'iliik.s.igi'llg..47l4ol//44040.40.47`0.14.0F.0PAPP.M.84 Commoner objects to Reagan's policy Continued from Page 1. "I think Watt is a kind of political joke. He's a cartoon. (By the way, Commoner said he reads "Doones bury" about once a Week.) You think of somebody who does everything wrong and he manages to do it. He's a good example of Reagan's subver sive policy." Mainstream American political thought is having disastrous effects on our country, Commoner said. Even liberalism which is a lot closer than conservatism to Com moner's ideology has completely failed, he said. As he puts it, liber alism "gets to the root, but of the wrong plant. "We present solutions that make sense, instead of cosmetic nonsense. What we propose is a radical, work able alternative to both the conser vative and the liberal approach." The problem, he said, is getting people to realize this. Commoner and his , running mate, LaDonna Har Sy:7C/Prgg. 7 l ris, received only .27 percent of the nationwide vote in the 1980 presi dential election. In contrast, many candidates run ning for local offices fared much better, and the party now ha's seve ral people in office, including the mayor of Burlington, Vt. Locally, Douglas Mason, 1980 U.S. Congressional candidate for the 23rd district, received over 5 percent of the votes received by winner Wil liam F. Clinger, R-central Pa., giv ing the party official ballot status in Centre County. The party must, establish itself on the grass roots level first, Common er said. The only reason he ran for president in 1980 was to publicize the party, and if he runs in 1984, it would be to publicize the party. And why does he want to publicize the party? Why is this so important to Barry Commoner? Chalk it up to radicalism. . P1 7: 11 1,1 1 1,q'„, 1 4,',3 int 04; J, AS,4 ; 7 ', 04 -2Clhl •-'44 4 0,40,1 g4, 7 4,440/4,9, 4,14/4001404 / 46 ,0 1 7 00440 4 1 4' i t OUVs 00, ' 1116.4 4 0,1,1 ,46004 14 / 4 1 40 , Wit 0 ' 4400 4 •9/4 11 44 0 14k3 V 10140,41 fet liAllgYWVflo'O6r 4knfoaWeVcig A 104 . V4 . 7 4'24. 1 ?..94 4'41 The Undergraduate Student Government is accepting Applications for the following staffs and dept. heads: * Minority Affairs director & staff * Political Affairs director & staff * USG Appeals Board * CATA Board Student Representative Seat * Business Dept. Board of Directors Chairman Pick Up An Application in 203 HUB &Get Involved in Your Student Government Today. The only way it will work is if you get involved. * Now that mid-terms are over there's no good reason why you can't! Deadline: • Mon., Oct. 7 l9th 1981. R-268 Commission to set priorities Women's group will. serve as umbrella organization Continued from Page 1. "We will let people know of outstanding contributions women are making at University Park and all over the University," McCormick said. "I expect we will be hearing from a lot of the women and we will be reaching out to them." . Commission member Kathryn Johnson, co-chairwoman of the Undergraduate Student Government department of wom en's services, said the commission will provide a sense of organization between the different women's groups at the University. "The commission will serve as an umbrella over all the other women's groups on campus and groups that deal with women's concerns," she said. "We could have access to these groups and serve as an informational board for them; we could give students access to different information and programs." McCormick said the commission has had one meeting so far and is beginning to set priorities and decide what some of the issues are. Commission member Wendy Oakes, president of the Panhel lenic Council, said it is important that both men and women students contact the commission about information and ideas. "The commission will provide a place for students to come, and we can find out their concerns and we can try and come up with viable , answers," she said, Several commission members said the University' is behind in women's services compared to other schools and that the commission may help bring those services up to date. A women's center could provide a central area to distribute and collect information and ideas from women at the Universi ty, Johnson said. ' The Daily Collegian Monday, Oct. 12, 1981-3 A concern for the job opportunities for both a husband and wife at the University was expressed by commission member Carol A. Cartwright, professor of education and acting asso ciate dean of the Commonwealth Educational System. "The University often loses people because the spouse of an employee is not able to find a job," she said. "Because we are seeing more and more two-career families we need to be more sensitive and creative to this situation." Members of the University Commission for Women are: . Maureen A. Carr, professor and director of the school music; Patricia Farrell, associate professor of the department of parks and recreation; June Gamble, president of the Faculty Women's Club; and Barbara Kautz, research associate and technical editor of the computation center. Also, Nancy Lyday, vice president of the Graduate Student Association; McCormick; Melanie Miller, president of the Society of Women Engineers; Kathryn M. Moore, associate professor and research associate of the Center for the Study of Higher Education; and Rosanel Oswald, director of the Univer-: sity House. Also, Audrey Rodgers, associate professor of English and coordinator of the women's studies program; Louise Sandmeya er, assistant director for career counseling and planning;. Jacqueline L. Schoch, director of the Dußois campus; Rosei mary Schraer, associate provost and professor of biochemis try; Joan Thomson, assistant professor and coordinator of staff development, Agricultural Extension Service; and Nancy. Tisthler, professor of English and humanities at the Capitol campus.