6—The Daily Collegian Monday, August 11,1980 Billy-Libya issue won't hurt Carter, delegate says Continued from Page 1 . It show§ some bad judgement on Jimmy’s part certainly. Depending upon how he handles it, it •can be seen as another ‘Well, look he did nothing wrong, let’s support the President,’ even if it is another incident of bad judgement. We don’t have the choice of the ideal president. We have the choice of Carter or Ronald Reagan. COLLEGIAN: Even among party leaders .however, the Billy problem has created a certain ;panic. How do you fe6l that will affect the con vention? O’CONNOR:I don’t think the Billy affair will affect much of anything. I was at the ’76 convention but the ’76 con vention was a big party and everybody tried to be on good behavior. It was an effort to put on a nice media show so we wouldn’t blow it; ‘Come .on, it’s about time we get the Republicans out so 'let’s be good boys and girls.’ The delegates are by and large a bunch of amateurs. The only reason I won had nothing to do with my eloquence or expertise or views on the issues or anything else. I was the first Carter delegate on the ballot. The only way I can account for my carrying places like Forest County and places I’ve never been to certainly has nothing to do with people voting for me. (That is) another reason why vliese arguments of ‘Let’s be pure and let the delegates use. their minds because after all '.hey re respected by the people to exercise judgment,’ are bull. COLLEGIAN: Do you feel that if the con vention decidesto adopt the rule (to close the convention) that it’s breaking democratic party tradition? O’CONNOR: I don’t think so.I think all this rule basically does is formalize what’s happened in the past. The people who ran in 1976 as Udall delegates to . : Hp§ iktMsM* V* CONDOMINIUM RESIDENCES V 10% Down • 9% % • 30 Yr. 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I think if anything it’s breaking tradition to say ‘Let’s let delegates who ran and were elected by the voters to vote for Ted Kennedy vote for whoever theywant.’ If I were, as I am, a voter in the 23rd District, and I saw that Carter won this district by 2 to 1, a big margin, and I saw that the four delegates from this district all voted for Ted Kennedy or Scoop Jackson or Joe Blow, I’d just want to know why I even took the time to vote in April. So all this purist talk about the open convention I think is really a bit on the silly side. Jim Eisenstein, a colleague of mine, said, ‘Next year we’ll be talking about having an open electoral college. Let’s not sign the electors to whom they are committed.’ The old days of being picked by delegates where you entered two primaries are over, which accounts for the fact that the nominees we’ve gotten Carter and Reagan are not aberrations of the system. 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So believing in democratice norms, with a small ‘d’, it’s very difficult to say one should ignore the election results and in essence ignore the wishes of the Democratic voters. COLLEGIAN: There has been a recent drive to recruit Edmund Muskie. How do you think that will affect the convention? O’CONNOR: They are trying. I keep getting these mailgrams from the Open Convention poeple and the Muskie people. They seem to have the same address. I don’t really know what to say. My suspicion is that in part it’s a matter of group dynamics. The Pennsylvania Carter delegation is going to meet Sunday (yesterday) afternoon. You’ll have Rep. K. Leroy Irvis (minority leader of the state House of Representatives) and A 1 Benedict (state auditor general) and there will be kind of an atmosphere created. . . .If you vote against retaining the rule you are a traitor, you may be thrown out a window. You’re just untrustworthy, you’re not a true Carter person, and you’re disloyal. You’d better come through. You also better not be partying Monday. You’d better show up to vote get there or else. With these people, even if some have been disillusioned along the way, one person who will not get the nomination is Ted Kennedy, becausel just think Ted turned out to be such a poor campaigner. If you thought the (Pa. delegation) Kennedy people would be liberals and the Carter people sort of Democratic moderates or conservatives, the caucuses cut across both parties the labor caucus, the women’s caucus. My point is, you have liberals on both sides. Kennedy did really well on the eastern side of the state, so you have the (support of) Philadelphia machine-types. . . but I think if you took just the Pennsylvania delegation they’d try to come up with a compromise candidate besides Kennedy. I have no intention of voting for Kennedy, although I will support a number of his platform positions. I think he’s a weak candidate. And one thing we cannot afford is to come out with a weak candidate. I think he’d be weaker than just about anyone, including Jimmy Carter. COLLEGIAN: What do you think about Kennedy’s push to get several planks onto the platform? O’CONNOR: I think it is fine, I support them. I think the platform is too conservative. I don’t support all of Kennedy’s planks. Right now wage and price control is not a good idea, other means of helping social justice would be more effective. COLLEGIAN: Which planks do you think should be included? O’CONNOR: The solar plank, which is a minority plank, is a good one. It is a sensible one, it is not extreme, it doesn’t say ‘Let’s phase out oil tomorrow,’ or anything else. COLLEGIAN: Did Carter fulfill your ex pectations of four years ago? ;-r -'! ‘ O’CONNOR: No, he certainly hasn’t. You can look at his acceptance speech in which he talks about how we are going to get tax reform . . . 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'What is distressing about the Republican platform is that there is a kind of between-the-iines (wish) to get back to the good o/e days with women in the kitchen and big cars to drive around, it's the good oie days for the upper and upper-middle class, it's not the good old days for blacks and for Workers. Carter was not very good on Iran, he made mistakes there. Embracing the Shah nine months before the guy was going to fa 11... He was given extremely bad advice from our in telligence agencies. The low point of the entire four years was a statement he made at a press conference. They were discussing the cutting back of money for abortions for poor women and he was asked, “Isn’t this a basic area for medical funding and if so isn’t it unfair to cut it? ’ ’ Carter said, ‘Life is unfair.’ Well I think as president of the United States one should try to be fair. COLLEGIAN: When Carter campaigned in ’76 he ran a very anti-Washington campaign. Do you think he has fulfilled that promise or worked with Washington? O’CONNOR: Now that’s the outsider cam paign, the ‘l’m going bring Washington bureaucrats to their knees,’ the ‘We’re going to have a daily flogging of a bureaucrat’ campaign; that’s scapegoatism. (Ronald Reagan) talks about the govern ment God, I can’t believe we haven’t revolted if they are doing these things he talks about Washington like it is a foreign country. Like somebody in Bulgaria is running us and telling us what to do. That’s garbage! Washington inefficiencies are just a matter of different policy choices. Some people think that spending money to enforce the voting rights act to guarantee that anybody has a right to vote regardless of sex, race, etc. that that is wasted money. For the little amount of money here, it is being well spent because the right to vote in a democracy is a precious right. COLLEGIAN: Agreed, but a lot of Democratic leaders in Congress have argued that Jimmy Carter is not a good leader. What do you think about his leadership? O’CONNOR: I think that right now we have a lot of structural reforms coming out of Congress that make it much harder for anyone to run Congress. The reforms have given every first day senator the chairmanship of a subcommittee and it.has been,said .the,problem-that Jimmy Carter faces is that there are 100 Jimmy Carters in the Senate. If he wants to go and make a deal with the Senate leadership, fine. But the Senate leadership cannot produce. AUDIO WANTED OWN ROOM in house, WEEKLY TAPE SPECIAL. Sony, FOUND: SET of GMC keys 9:15a.m. at efficiency apartment or female Maxell, Scotch, Memorex, Ampex, f re e phone in Willard. Claim at i Jimmy Carter.’ In the House you can do that a little more easily, and Carter’s problems have not been with the House. He’s gotten along quite well with (Speaker Tip) O’Neill. COLLEGIAN: Several Supreme Court positions are expected to open up in the next four years. Do you think Jimmy Carter would appoint ? people who you would like to see on the Court? O’CONNOR: Oh, absolutely yeah. I think the appointments he has made to the district courts have been incredibly qualified. Really strong people. He has gone to a quasi-merit system, instead of the old system of appointing political hacks. COLLEGIAN: Do you think he would liberals or more conservative judges? . O’CONNOR: The people he has appointed have been fairly liberal. What is so scary about the Republican plat form is the part where there should only be one kind of judge you shouldn’t look for sound legal minds but you first off find out their'*' personal views on several issues. That is something I would hate to see happen. COLLEGIAN: What do you think the goals of the next presidency are? O’CONNOR: To help America adapt well to changing from a cowboy expansionist mentality to learning how to live well with justice and < humanity. The world requires a little bit more maturity than it used to. What is distressing about the Republican platform is that there is a kind of between-the lines (wish) to get back to the good old days with women in the kitchen and big cars to drive around. It’s the good ole days for the upper and'* upper-middle class, it’s not a good ole days for blacks and for workers. There is a quasi-religious element; it is to strengthen the family. And the family means one kind of family; there is a sad misunderstanding that most Americans families are not like that. Let’s talk intelligently about how we can strengthen the American family. The way to do it is not through watching “Father Knows Best” reruns it might be nice if that was the way to do it but it is not. \ We need a president as the great educator, the moral leader who can help us toward a greater maturity by understanding that internationally we are a great power, that we will be a great power and that we should be a great power. But that means.that.wehave some sensitivity.,, COLLEGIAN: Is Jimmy Carter president? O’CONNOR: Maybe. I know who wouldn’t be Ronald Reagan. FOUND —Robert O'Connor WANTED TO RENT LAPIESANP 6ENTLE/WEN, WE HAVE ARRIVEP AT OUR PECTINATION... 1 m P m sssass Kee . (I ■ / - yf&'ttae'tTaintßpd "K every Monday Night ‘KSO-k’SO -%#§S!# f JOCKEYS _ #4tfARREN O. FITTINGf fei spins Ail KINDS OF SOUNDS -sS THE TBMM STATION p JUNCTION OF COLLEGE AVE. $ GARNER £>T. OPEN DAILY &RM.-2A.M. FRIDAY opEKj AT 3:00 RK Ifil t< b <£) i 960 United Feature Syndicate, Inc. &UNK! Penn State Day AT IDLEWILD PARK August 17, noon to 9 PM Students! Faculty! Alumni! 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