THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10, 1968 The Hot Tip: Noll It All By JUDY RIFE Collegian City Editor Twenty-four hciurs later, there I was. standing next to the hot tip himself! But I managed to maintain my cool and' not say "Hi there, Hot Tip!" I said instead, "Hello, Dr. Noll." It was Charlie Hosler, who had tipped me off about his colleague the day before. "Do you know Dean Noll?" the head of the Col lege of Earth and Mineral Sciences had asked me on the phone. "College of Sci ence?" (Resigning I thought, we scoop Public Informa tion! No, Hosler would go through proper channels with news like that . . . and besides, if it were true, like Roose and Heller, it would have been common knowl edge, or at least a nasty rumor, all over town). "Well, he's 60 headlines: Dean Has Birthday!) ". . reclassified l-A." Clarence I. Noll. dean of the College of Science, age 60, reclassified 1-A. A hot tip! Dr. Noll was taking the news calmly. "I'm a 60-year old grandfather!" And besides, the notice was not from his draft board nor was it his Selective Service number. "The head of the biology department (Joseph G. O'Mara) has this all figured out," he said. "He says you always receive something from your draft board after your 15th birthday and I was just 15 this year." Which prompted my alert photographer to speak up: "Leap year." And I nodded and said, 'When is your birthday?" Every interview is marked by at least one brilliant question. Without prompting. Dr. Noll proceeded to answer the questions I had mentally prepared. think I know what happened. Students come to us asking if we'll inform their draft boards of what they are doing here in hopes of ob taining deferments. Some secretary probably saw my name at the bottom of one of these letters and sent a notice to me by mistake. Somebody Doesn't Know 9t is not my Selective Service number and it's not my draft board. The serious part of it is that there is some body who has that number and doesn't know he's I-A. "I'm going to write them a letter explaining the error and ask that the right person not be held to the date of the notice," And there it was: the hot tip, tracked down by the unrelenting, truth-seeking journalist. But the proverbial nose for news was already twitching. Another hot tip was in the making: "they" will meet you half-way. If you want to talk to "them," "they" will talk to you. ' Dr. Noll and I expressed a mutual interest in Latin America and mutual concern over the upcoming Presi dential elections. We discussed the IDA mess in the spring and University involvement with government and industry research and the political nature of the next generation. Mutual Enjoyment We exchanged titles of good books we've read lately and discovered a mutual enjoyment of Wilder's "The Bridge of San Luis Rey." (Another hot tip: he suggests having a heart attack to catch up on all those things you'l,e been meaning to read!) Then the conversation drifted to student activism, student-faculty relations, and how liberal arts students have this thing about Bi Sci and science courses in general.' I apologized for keeping him from his dinner, but then Dr. Noll gave me the hottest tip of all: "That's all right, I'm not just being paid to be interested in students, I am." First in Music - Stereo 91 - WDFNI Radio Penn State BRAND X DISCOUNT 307 Benner Pike One lot of Old Edition & Used Text Books ...X1.50 each One lot Paper Backs . : 1 / 2 off 0 20% off on Shot Gun Shells 10% off on Rifle Shells • Also Visit Our Store at 358 E. College Ave. for Your Student Needs MISS RIFE . ." (Won•, page one . and he's just been I DON'T 1141 YOU'RE A • NOCKEtI PEA AT ALL.. PROVETO ME THAT YORE A REAL ROCKEK PLA'(ER.. *-N2t, b•ge, YOU'RE A REAL HOCKS/ PLAYER! Paper Requests Faculty Writers Universit, faculty are in vitee to submit articles to Col legian's "Faculty Forum." Columns of opinion from all members of the faculty are welcome. The articles should be type written and triple-spaced and should not exceed 75 lines in length. Interested f acult y should bring their articles to Collegian office, 20 Sackett Building. Collegian Letter Policy The Pally Collegian wel comes comments on news coverage, editorial policy and campus or non-campus af fairs. Letters must be type written, double spaced, signed by no more than two persons and •no longer than 30 lines. Students' letters should in clude name, term and major of the writer. They should be brought to the ,C •llegian of fice, 13 Sackett, in person so proper identification of the writer can be made, although names will be withheld by request. If letters are re ceived by mail, Collegian will contact the signer for verifi cation. The Collegian reserves the right to fairly select, edit and condense all letters. LACHMAN WYNN for USG Town Congressmen THE DAILY COLLEGIAN, UNIVERSITY PARK, PENNSYLVANIA Sound Off? Put It By ROBERT J. GRAHAM Assistant Professor of English THEODORA. R. GRAHAM Instructor in English Ironically, The Daily Collegian editorial. "Facul ty Apathy." (Oct. 5) will probably reach a small number of the faculty unless the adamant few who subscribe to the Collegian or those, like us. who ask students to leave a copy after class pass it to their colleagues. We have suggested to Collegian editors, to faculty senators, to student leaders that the University should foot the bill for copies sent to professors re questing th e m arid that the Col legian or, if neces sary, another pub lication become a bona fide student faculty newspaper with all that title implies. Faculty Forum is no substi tute for what is needed at Penn State, If discussion is to be continuous among students and faculty, then we suggest realistic and serious exchanges Theodora R. Graham can best occur in writing. Free-wheeling personal confrontations with or without microphones, sometimes heroine interesting, intense encounters; but it has been our experience that too much talk and oral counter-- explanation under such conditions abort good intentions. In certain dramatic instances such direct ex change may encourage understanding and fruitful ac tion. We recommend. however, that these desired results not be left to chance. There's something solid about print. Let's keep the microphone but seek a larger con text. What is personally frustrating about your editorial is the paradox at its base. How to cut the Gordian knot? 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Student-Faculty Dialogue Once there was an indefinite and self-defining un group, non-committee called Student-Faculty Dialogue. Back in '65-66. Not to be Confused with any other organization, place, or arrangement which sub sequently borrowed the name. That was after Ad Hoc. Jim Kaplan Co. Soap boxes, a rare micro phone, one guitar, a few best minds of a PSU genera tion and other decent ones. Not many placards. One or two rallies where most people dressed square because anything else alienated those above. A self-conscious, spontaneous sit-in in Old Main at which the Alma Mater was sung with no little embarrassment ("let no act of ours..."). All about student-rights (that was before "power": change is the essence and a rose becomes something else when someone else perceives a dif ference). Mostly off-campus independence; choice; in loco parentis. A few resigned and retired; some probably got ulcers hoping it would go away. A Bookstore, ORL, et. al. Repeated patterns. It was also ( for those who realized students were doing what they wanted to do, anyway, and were primarily sick of the hypocrisy) a bookstore. Ordnance Research Laboratory, mindless Spring Weeks, a few large do-nothing classes, some ugly new buildings, the worst aspects of Greek-ism (about which IFC chairmen prove to be perceptive), 205 Black students in the midst of a 23.000 enrollment (about which John Warner was perceptive), pass-tail for real, the AAUP at PSU, resident learning centers, an independent study school, portable do-it-yourself free university classes with libraries and a student-faculty Senate with legal awareness. At that moment in time the Faculty Senate was not chaired by an elected member. Where are we? Take your own inventory. It wasn't an easy road to that Senate for those involved in and behind the scene: but what does it mean: For many Ancient History is a bore. It is N-O-W. Besides. if the students in the Senate seem inarticulate, what does it mean? Cases in point. The student-faculty dialogue was rational, signifi cant, and good despite the slurs, the newsletters a few professors sent back with red-ink condemnations, a couple of ignorant telephone calls from those who didn't choose to use print to make relevant remarks. About 25 faculty members were regulars, contribut ing money and time and it took plenty of both to publish one newsletter. in Print Others consistently showed up at dialogues in the HUB, coming and going when they could. Up to 400 faculty members and. students appeared at the three S-FD Forums held in the Forum. Fact , liv like Dr. Young, Dear. Heller, Dr. Rabinowitz, Dr. Rosemary Schraer and others along Nl,ll acuii trators, student leaders (the serious kind), editors discussed in open forum (does anyone remember?) "What Is a University?" We had plenty of free speech. Begin again? Where is a Bruce Macomber? There was a box or two of S•FD paper, brown ink. addressograph plates for all faculty members and student organizations, a few dollars in the downtown bank account and a lot of experience with bureau cratic redtape. Anyone want to hear how difficult it was to get some college deans and some department heads to permit distribution in faculty mailboxes and how some effcrts failed? No Student Editor S-FD folded because there was no student editor (the editorship was a joint faculty-student set-up with an open advisory board) who wanted to take Bruce's place even though the time-consuming machinery was well-oiled. And this was no slippery, undercover, low-quality bottom of anyone's bird .cage. No red - eyed radical spurning howl with four-let ter words to affront Aunt Edna and the legislature: nor neg ativistic anarchistic down - with State and - Happy Valley movement. We were telling it like it is before anyone coined the phrase— and with taste and as much literary style as contributors Robert J. Graham could summon or editors could induce en short notice. Some will always believe that evaluation and critioism cannot persist with concern and love; but nobody's got an edge on love because he chooses only praise or silence. Elm trees, a man's achievements. the past are potentially comprehensible to anyone over 1211. When the newsletter was satirical, one didn'l choose the stance because it was most friendly; one chose it to shake the apathy, to drag written (Continued on page si.r) ~,' , ~,:, , . ' • . « • ' r • • • " ItVik; ' „ ' , \7\ • EZZEI Between Bellefonte and State College PAGE THREE SIZES 8 TO 18 ~x ..