Let America Decide How to achieve peace in Vietnam is one of the most debated issues today.. It is constantly'with us; seemingly an unresolvable question. From President Johnson comes the opinion that the cost in lives and money is wdrth the eventual peace which he has assulred the nation will come. From Lt. Gen. James Givin, who withdrew from the Massachusetts Democratic Advisory Council in protest over the Administration's war policy, comes the opinion that, domestic problems and other foreign entanglements deserve the energy now spent on Vietnam. Washington military advisers say escalate; sun dry citizen groups say de-escalate. Congress is a flock of birds as every member chooses between a 'hawk" or "dove" policy. The debating will go on and on and on. Most likely, so will the war. Therefore, taking a cue from the Administra tion's professed'aim to bring democracy to southeast Asia, The Collegian suggests the government start in its own back yard. How do the American people feel about the war? Does the majority of people still back a total U. S. committment? Washington could easily find out, simply by heeding Martin Luther King, for one, who advocates a referendum on Vietnam. He suggests the American people should decide, through a vote, whether the U. S. should stay in the war. The question need not be either one extreme or the other. In the range between complete withdrawal or bombing the country off the map, lie many other Successor to The Free Lance, est. 1887 011 r Batig Tolltritatt 62 Years of Editorial Freedom Published Tuesday thrown Saturday during the Fail, Winter and Spring Terms Terms and once weekly on Thursdays during June, July and August. The Daily Collegian Is a student•opereted newspaper. Second class postage paid at State College, Pa. 16801, Circulation, 12,300. Mall Subscription Price: SILSO a year Mailing! Address Ilex 467, State ColWe,- Pa. 14107 .gditorial and Business Office Basement of Sackett (North End) Phone 163.1.531 Business office hours: Monday throush Friday, 9:30 a.m. to 4 p.M. Member of The Associoted Press RICHARD WIESENHUTTER , 41 6/; 0 ., DICK WEISSMAN Editor Business Manager , Managing' Editor, Sue Diehl; City Editors, Leslie Kay and Jackie, Snyder; News Editors, Andrea Rattail and Mike Serrlll; Editorial Editor, Julie Moshlnsky; Editorial Columnist, Jay Shore; Photography Editor, Mike Urban; Sports Editor, Paul Levine; Assistant Sports Editor, Ron Kolb. Board Of Manigers: Local Advert i sing Manager,• Larry Bruch; ssistant Local Advertising Managers, Marcia Snyder and Edward :Fromkin; COCfedit, Managers, Judy - Soltis and Bill _Fowler; Assistant Credit- Manager, George Gelb; Classified Advertising--Manager, Patty Rissinger; National Advertising Managers, Mary Ann Reis and Linda Hasler; Circulation Manager, Ken Gottschall; Office and Personnel Manager, Karen Kress; Public Relations and Promotion Manager, Ronald Resnikeff. PAGE TWO The Daily Collegian accepts letters to the editor regarding, Collegian news coverage or editorial policy and campus or non.campils affairs. Letters must be typewritten, no more than two pages in length, and should be broUght to the office of The Daily Collegian In person so• that identification of the writer can be checked. If letters are received by melt, The Collegian will contact the signer tor verification. The Daily Collegian reserves vthe right to select which letters will be published and to letters for style and content. . JAZZ CLUB JAZZ 'CL:UB JAZZ :CLUB JAZZ CLUB SMOKEY Saturday, October 7th JAZZ CLUB JAZZ CLUB JAZZ CLUB JAZZ.CLUB j j I • El at in 7,, rgtatt announces FALL TERM EDITORIAL CANDIDATE SCHOOL t i 7 p.m. Thursday •m,124 Sackett • All undergraduate students• inter l ested in joining the paper's editorial staff are invited to come find out the who, what, when, where and why of working for The Collegian. No' previous experience in newspaper work is necessary. Students need not be journalism or English majors. I _ EDITORIAL OPINION SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 1967 LETTER POLICY dance to the soul sounds of general sales Mon. thru Friday we cannot hold seats for members after Tuesday' . . . get them now! remember what Smokey says . . possibilities. A halt to the bombing while still main taining troops? A smaller troop committment? There are many considerations.: And, the American public which is giving its sons, its money and its•name to the fighting should have a voice. Counterarguments to the referendum proposal stress the public's,lack of knowledge about military strategy, and the large numbers of people who wouldn't bother to vote anyway. - Of course, the public does not have the strategi cal knowledge the Pentagon has, but we're fighting an offensive war. Our shores are not being bombard ed. There is safety in stopping to think. It won't deter the war effort, as some fear. The observation that a large segment of the population does not vote should therefore void any election. The argument does not hold. People - that care will vote. And, they're the ones that make the rules in any democracy. As the war goes on, the U. S. is using its re sources, its reputation, and most importantly, its youth as fuel. A concrete effort to do something is far _overdue. Discussion is getting too stale. War or peace. War to get peace? It's important to President Johnson. But let America decide. Waking Up To Vietnam TO THE EDITOR: In reply to J. Robert Shore, I would say: "if you can't take a joke, it's time to open your eyes." When we fail to see North Vietnam's peace proposals for what they are, a joke, then we must possess very little of that stuff which causes us to differ from our paleolithic predecessors. You speak of "America's men' of letters and other thinkers." I hope you do not include yourself among this majority. In what is called a '"meaningful" effort, the U.S. \halts its air strikes. In what is called a "meaningful" effort, „the North Vietnamese agree to peace talks. While these talks are in progress a village chief and his family are taught the Viet Cong method of dealing with those civic leaders who oppose their "war of liberation.' While these "meaningful" talks are in progress, the North Viet namese use the lull in 'bombing to move - huge quantities of men and material from centers. such as Hanoi • and Haiphony to areas in ;the South. They use this lull in bombing to set up anti-aircraft batteries and SAM sites around target areas. The peace talks come to an abrupt halt. The North Vietnamese say that terrorism ,and the "fight for free- - -' dom" will continue until the U.S. withdraws from Viet nam. Having no intention 'of leaving South Vietnam to be overrun by the North, the United States says it will continue to remain in Vietnam, and the talks are officially ended, The U.S. again commences its bombing of the North. :: It is soon realized how "meaningful" these talks have been.. The U.S.. aircraft returning over the target sites are met by a barrage of anti-aircraft fire and SAM's. Truly the peace talks have been "meaningful" the death tolls of South Vietnamese and U.S. troops soar due to the influx of troops and war material from the North. Truly the peace talks were "meaningful"—more American sol diers are dying than before because some "thinker" or "man of letters" desires peace at any price. I am an American, and as a "thinker", do ;not desire such a peace. I know of far too many young Americans like myself who need the support of their fellow Ameri cans. I know of too many Americans in Vietnam who cannot afford the mistake made by those who blindly seek peace at any cost! • THE MIRACLES Rec Hall, 7:30 P.M. Letters To Carter C. Thompson '69 BERRY'S WORLD "ls that plain, old, 'bad taste,' or genuine 'Mod'?" The Editor Class Gift Concern TO THE EDITOR: Once again The Class of 1968 (speci fically, its class officers) is advancing fantastic and worth while ideas but to whom? As yet, nothing definite has even been vaguely hinted as to what the '6B'ers will pre sent the University as a class gift, Homecoming is but a few weeks away: yet, the PSU seniors have, done R il l! to foster school and class spirit for this classic autumn spectacle. It is hoped that the President of the Senior; Class doesn't follow in his prede cessor's footsteps, i.e., hide away for a full. year in his room while drawing 4 salary for "his efforts." Some spirited action is drastically needed before June gradua tion arrives. In three years the Class of '6B has yet to contribute one major item of importance to its Alma Mater. Is it already too LATE? Back To Semester? TO THE EDITORI Since the beginning of the term various rumors have circulated concerning a major change in University policy. Unconfirmed reports have_ it that next year, Penn State will return to the semester system. By now we have heard such a large number of these reports that we feel justified in inquiring into their validity. If, in fact, the rumors are true, then why has no public statement been 'released to the student body? Can the University, again, attempt to disregard student opinion in bringing about such a significant change in University policy? We, therefore, challenge the U.S.G. or The ,Daily Collegian to investigate these rumors and 'report their findings to the student body. , Editor's Note: During the summer, the Collegian learned that the University was considering a return to the se mester system. The University' has not said When it will make the possible changeover from trimester to semester, but when the decision - is made, the Collegian will break the news. *tAil I.risto VI 'IV ,',:-• . ..g.' . . ..-.,',f. .; , t ',.. -.., ..:.,. • C) 1967 by NEA, Inc. Bill Himmelsbach Jr. '6B Linton, Wildrick '69 Tom Weimer '6B Rip Bourne '7O ;' WDFM Schedule TODAY 6-9 a.m.—Popular music with DaLire Handler, news on the hour 9-1 p.m.—Joe Berwanger with - Top Forty. news on the hour 1-2 p.m.—Up Beat 2-5 p.m.—The Opera 5-7 p.m.—Open House 7-8 p.m.—Jazz Notes 8-12 midnight—Gary Schwartz with Top Forty, news cn the hour 12 midnight-4 am—John Schut rick with Top Forty, news on .he hour TOMORROW 8-11 a.m.—Popular music with Ken Plesser, news on the hour 11 to 3 p.m.—Popular Music with Sam McGi e, news on the hour 3 k? 5:45 p.m.—Popular music with • Ron Rietz 5:45 to 7 p.m.—The Chapel THIS WEEKEND ON CAMPUS TODAY - 2141HU8 Pennsylvania Ball-t, 8:30 p.m,. Student Films, 6 p.m:, HUB Ree, Hall assembly hall Student Films, 7 p.m., Hetzel 1 * * * Union Building assembly hall MONDAY ' f: :, :: Aloh4 Phi Omega, 6:30 p.M., e: TOMORROW . .."15-216 HUB Associatiori of Women Students, Bridge Club, 6:30 p.m., HUB 8 p.m., 215-216 HUB -main lounge ' Art Department Reception, 8 Gamma Sigma Sigma, 6:30 p.m., HUB main lounge '-:' p.m., 214 HUB Folklore Society, 7 p.m., 214 Judo l Club, 7 p.m., 217. HUB HUB . Junior Class, 8 p.m., 203 HUB Homecoming Chairmen com , mittee, 7:30 p.m., 218 HUB Military Ball committee; 7:30 Po.nn State Thespians, 2 p.m., p.rii., 218 HUB 214 HUB - Student Religious r•ibera4, 8:30 p1.•,,,,,,, : ft, P•nt ' ,,, -.-1 '1 2,+n . , , il. "4 PT"' raMMEEr-30 MINE Coto NAVE BEEN BETTER, BUT IT CoULP NAVE BEEN WORSE. se, Service, (delay broadcaa) 7:00-10:00 pan.—The Third Programme 10-10:05—WDFM News . 10:05-12 midnight—The Third Progiamme (continuedl 12-12:05 a.m.—WDFM News MONDAY 4-4:05 , p.m.—VIDFM News 4:05-6 p.m.—Music of the Mas ters 6-6:05 p.m.,WDFM " ws 6:05-7 p.m.--LAfter Six (popular, easy-listeningY , 7-7:15 p.m.—Dateline News (comprehensive campus, na- tional and international news, sports, and weather) 7:15-7:30 p.m,—After Sint (con tinued) 7:45-8 'p.m.—'-News :cane 8-10 p.m.—J az z Panorama (with Bill Fox' 10-10:05 p.m.—WDFM ?ews 10:05-12 midnight—SyMphonic Notebook 12-12:05 a.m.—WDFM News \ t