PAGE FOUR Editorial Opinion NS A Conference ! Results "'jj i the success of the regional conference of the Na tiorpl Student Association is an indication of the interest Othpr members have ir? this organization, we have serious doubts regarding our own student government’s joining. : The regional conference, held last weekend with the aims of education as altheme, drew, only 30 students from the member schools of NSA-in West Virginia and Pennsyl vania. This ftumber was less than half of those delegates . originally expected to attend. 1 i This year USG has been participating in NS A on a trial membership basis* with the vote on permanent mem hereliip slated for late this academic year. questioning the value of joining the organiza tion, on the basis of interest shown, we also question the value of the topics discussed at the conference. ' One seminar group dealt with student-faculty-admin istration relations anti the contribution of student govern ment to university development? A second seminar con sidered both curriculum development and the benefits Students should derive from courses. _ -■ Theie are worthy topics for discussion—but also ones which are discussed more extensively on a local basis such •slat a meeting of students at the USG Encampment. It seems more reasonable to expect that NSA delegates would discu33 what NSA could do as a group to promo ti*lhe aims of. education on a national basis utilizing the interests of member schools. "" , The delegates did not offer any concrete action after their discussions. While definite proposals are not always desiraHe, it seems reasonable to expect that this group wculd have been able to draw together their discussions into a helpful plan of action if they believe strongly and agree enough to reach conclusions,in the first place. ; i* would be fallacious to assume that one could decide the basis for membershipin a large group such as NSA on the culcome of one meeting. It seems logical, however, that (lie U£G delegates should question the value of the organization after, viewing past meeting. We urge the USG representatives to take the initiative to question the benefits of NSA before committing them-, selves to permanent membership. This newspaper intends to engage in the sdme probing before endorsing or'disap proving permanent participation in the association, 'i A Student-Operated Newspaper 58 Years of Editorial Freedom Saili} (Enllpntan A Successor to The Free Lance, est. I**7 P*bll>h*4 Turodey through' Saturday momlni during thi Unlrerilty ymr. Thr .if u. ,1 . 0d 5. nt .7“ P * r *«' h Friedman: Aml.Unt Credit Mar. Horry Rauch; Promotion Mar. Horry Cioooificd Ad Mpr. Catherine Roomer; Circulation M*r. Phil Gooot; Aooielant Circulation Mar. Do-rid Spirt; .tVronnnol ond Office Mar. Lynn Morphy. • Pcreono with romplotnta about The Dully odll'rtal policy at new, roerraae may roire them In the lelirre to tho oditor column or preacat them In pereon or In wrltin*. loAhe editor All complalate pill be Ineeallfited and onorto made to remedy altuatinna where Chit newapaper b at fault Tho Dally Colleclan. however, upbolda the rfpht to maintain ttr- Independence and t« oaerrtae 1U own (odrraent o«- to what It thinko b la tho beat intrreol of tho IlnWmltr *» • vhole HOU) OOESite DAO FEEL ABOUT THIS? U AssMNife AH 2$E MOTHERS GET TH&R Kl£>s OFF TO SCHOOL, THEV GATHER AT OUR HOUSE TO, PtAV POX UlTti MV MOTHER HE SAVS. WrfV CAN T WOMEN STAVINTHE;BOu)LINSALLEVS' COHERE TKEV' BELONG?" i dont think he APPROVES. THE DAILY COLLEGIAN. UNIVERSITY PARK, PENNSYLVANIA HERBERT WITMER Business Manager i'j Letters to the ' Letters' Called Useful Tool; Students Encouraged to Write TO THE EDITOR: This is not to be a “common’’attack ;.upon stu dent apathy; nor is.lt intended to be in defense of it. This letter, however, is intended, more'orless, to.be a challenge"to many'people, primarily students, who are cdn-j cemed and sensitive to pro'blems -at .this large university ,and to those who have, the ability and clarity to bring these ideas and feelings into the open through the media of writing. After following the letters to the editor- -Tor quite a .time, I have begun to realize just what a tool these letters cdn ultimately be in defense of student opinions, and attitudes.-I only regret that 1 I-have not participated in.writing to the Collegian, thereby taking advantage of tips tbol. As other students, I have found myself with many feelings of dissatisfac tion from.time to time at Penh State.’ Many of these feelings have: been'; j geared toward University policies ,in general—many of which have been identified in previous letters to the Collegian. Unfort unatply, termination of many of my. feelings Has not come only by reading these letters. Reading a number of. them., in fact, has often left me more biller and more ditalisfied. More than once I have sat down i to write. to the school paper’to expound about my feel ings; however, in all of these instances,my attempts have either ended in the--form of a completed letter irvf the waste basket, or as uncompleted ones eventually dying similarly. I have really;felt unjust to myself for not writing, and this-Is’why . I am finally writing this letter. - At this point you many be ques tioning what my purpose in writing .really is. The answer lies in my belief that there are many people on this campus who have ideas ! which should be brought into light so that those who read Class Board Cites Purposes r Need .TO THE EDITOHs We, the Fresh- spirit Intangible,'yes. But, when man Class Advisory Board, firm- each program, each plan, each believe thit .her, 1, . need end £^^,, lh “S a purpose lor class advisory concrete and important boards. Looking forward, we base 1 In order for the advisory boards p this belief on future plans being to achieve their goals, they will proposed and discussed by non- have "to overcome many barriers, legislative bodies. However, “a thousand miles We support our belief with the begins with a single step." Step fact that the members of these - by step, we are moving ahead, boards were selected on their —Tns Freshman Class capacities to contribute to, work Advisory Board for, and serve (heir respective classes. Their year of service has just begun, but the ideas and concrete plans springing from these creative minds are represen -tative of their desire and ability to serve ' Living within a large universi ty, each studncneeds a certain degree of Idepigtcationl Specific interest an out let for a part of'this. But, when the student graduales-drom Penn State, he graduates froni the Class of '66 (for example). He has been living, learning, and sharing ex periences with his class for ap proximately four years. This is the group with which he is most likely to identify himself. The advisory boards do not claim to be 100 per cent perfect, but they are striving towards a feeling of class unity, and class Camp*ts Beat Tsk! Tsk! the Collegian only gave 12 inches of space to a report of the USG meeting last night! And on Wednesday it was 12 and .on Tuesday it‘was 15! Why- that hardly seems ample to tell the story.' Perhaps Collegian, should let those Congressmen write the interpretative columns : they're pestering .- the editors - about—or maybe they should "educate’’ their reporters and educators on what hind of interpretation USG measures need. Maybe, they ought to ask the USG Congress next. week what' their, .interpretation of ‘‘interpre tation" is! this paper may know them, un derstand them, or even question them. Many of theca people, of whom I am speaking, hare the capabil ities and creative instincts to per form the operations of writing ef fectively, but many a&o not take advantage of these gifts. One may ask these questions: "What good is writing a single letter?" or "Does it pay to write a letter' at all?" This, unfortunately, is some thing that cannot be answered im mediately. or possibly never. When we look at a forest, do we ask ourselves, "What good is one tree?” No, we do not, for we know that one tree alone is in significant. But, we do not real-' ize, on the other 1 hand, that in terms of the entire forest the on 4 tree is important. Therefore, ih stead we can ask ourselves, “What would the forest be without the totality of many-individual trees?” This is primarily my argument'. For . instance/this letter which I am. now writing is -entirely in significant in itself. However, one never knows what its ultimate effects might or could be if de fended or rejected by other inter ested writers. As stated in the beginning, this letter bas not been intended to be an attack upon student apathy. I believe apathy Is a phenomenon which has always existed on cam puses and always will in one form or another. This is something T can realise and accept as being natural without jbolding a grudge. However, this letter has been a challenge to those who can write, and who are concerned about dif ferent things which may be of interest to others. I think these people should write. Some do write already; many of whom write well. However, I do believe that too much talent lies -'dormant, at this .-University. And I think it should be brought into the open through written ex pression, Maryland Student Thanks Penn State TO THE EDITOR: I received a clipping of Miss Ann Palmer's column from the Nov. 10 issue, of The Daily Collegian and would like to recount my impressions on visiting your cam pus., I found that the students were very friendly and went out of their way to make us feel welcome, I came with the Univer sity of Maryland Newman Club and I’m sure my felloty students' who came with the group agree with me. I didn't attend any of those “wild’* fraternity parties, but’they sounded lilte they were a lot of fun. . Sunday morning I was given a tour of thte campus • by one of your sophomore boys, ■ and it is beautiful. Thank you, Penn State, for a wonderful weekend. I won’t 'soon forget your Old Main or your warm hospitality, —Ronnia Thayer University of Maryland WDFM Schedule WEDNESDAY. NOV. 11 5:00 Dinner 'Bata i 4:15 Weatherseope srith Joel Myers • 4:20 Virtuoso: Arturo Rubenitein 7:M Artiste Series Prericw: Sanceeta ■ Madras (Muwle* from India) Sr9o Pleasures of Music: Dr. Rarer ' . commenting and plajrtn* artists of the past: Caruso, Bruno, Wal tes, etc. ' - ' • K>f CaSnpus it ReHrion (University Christian Association) 9:15 Mostly Music: Jaxs motif M.*W Symphonic Notebook: BerUott Symphony Fantastiqne *' - Bach; Brandenburg Concerto No 5 —Prof Wayn* is:oo Nw- —Edward Mandel, '63 WEDNESDAY. NOVEMBERS!, 1962 Editor Froth Support Given in Letter / To President DEAR DR. WALKER: As former editors 1 of Froth, we were sad dened to learn that our. venerable (for Penn State) former publica tion has been shut down. We hope the decision of tKe Committee on Student Organizations is not ir revocable. Since we can. only imagine the circumstances which led to such a drastic jdecision, we offer no criticism. However, in defense ol Froth as an institution, we would like to tell you what the maga zine hasj meant to us. On a ‘campus as large as Stale had become even then. Froth functioned as one oMhe few out lets for personal dissent. This dis sent was harmless and healthy in an atmosphere which too often was willing' to sacrifice personal eccentricity to the pressures o( 'conformity. Froth often missed its mark as a literary effort, but the staff never lacked' enthusi asm. j The freedom, which, other cam pus publications lacked, waa sometimes abused, but never ma liciously! We attacked with’ a naive fervor certain social prob lems other, publications were con tent to ignore. Froth was a de licious iuicury '-we-'—will never know again. Froth jwas also an introduction to our present careers. One of us holds his present position because of the work he did for the maga zine. The c other was given nis first job! on a newspaper on the basis of ihis Froth writings. And there a*e many other Froth graduates -holding important ’ po sitions on newspapers, in publish ing houses and with magazines. Froth- was the kind of practical experience that will never be Available in’'the artificial climate of the journalism laboratory or the creative writing class. But most important, Froth was a labor of love. Not just our labor, but the ! works of the countless student writers, artists and edi tors of the past fifty-three years. To let qll of that disappear be cause of'.a momentary indiscre tion wouldj be a sad thing.- —Marshall O.’ Donley, '54 —Bryon Fielding, '56 (The Daily Collegian received a carbon copy of this letterito Pres ident Walker. We print, it here with Walker’s r- Junior Charges 'M isinterpretation' TO THE EDITOR: In reply to the “refutation” of Edward letter on dress by^,Bonnie. Benka and Janet Blank: Here we have an apparent example of h problem existing on our campus. It seems that-many poeple are either unable to comprehend what they read, or too quick to express unfounded opinions which lack knowledge of the facts. The most obvious fallacy con tained .in these girls’ understand ing of Silver'*., .letter is that they either did not take the time' to read it, or they have no idea what they read. It is extremely obvious that Silver intended his letter to be a satire. Even if he interpreted by these young wom en, they had ohly to read the headline “Sraior Satirizes; Dining Hall Dress" in order to ascertain his.meaning. - I suggest that these scholarly and virtuous women, who would not slenderise the poor peasants of the Bible, look'up the meaning of satire, in Webster’s dictionary. In case they do not have one, I am sure, that our library does. I believe that even a- greater fallacy exists than this jSuperficial misunderstanding. I ’feel that herein we have jin example of the blind virtue and false morality which, caused Froth-to be-banned from our campus. ' - —Julian Rappaport, '64