PAGE TEN Grandstand Views This Business OfColiegeFootball A few years ago, it was an honor to be named to an All-American football team, but now it seems to be more of a bother than anything else, At least that's the impression conveyed by a Sunday Times article by Howard Tuckner, one of the top sports writers in the business. Tuckner questioned the members of the Look All-American team about their views on football and the answers he received should make a few athletic directors and coaches blush. For example, Duke end Tee Moorman is such a realist that Faulkner finishes a poor second. "College football is a business," Moorman told Tuckner. "After you find out the cold facts, the fun wears off." Mark Manders, an lowa guard, was the mouthpiece for the married players. Manders felt that a football player does a job for the school he represents and for this he should be compensated. The Hawkeye star said that married players were not treated fairly and should get better expense accounts. He explained that right now he only receives $B7 a month for room and board—the same amount given to a single player. The All-Americans, such as Manders and• Moorman, are brought to New York at the expense of Look and they receive room, board, $4O in expense money and a wrist watch for the three-day trip. "nut some of the players apparently feel that as All-Ameri cans they should receive a bit more than wrist watches and $40," Tuckner wrote. Tuckner spoke to a Look representative who told him that some of the players were in New York to get everything they pos sibly could at the magazine's 'expense. "They've been taken care of in college and they expect to be taken care of now. It's not their fault. It's the system," the repre sentative told Tuckner. These are just a few examples. The Times has more if you care to read them. If you're a football fan you should, because the article serve's as an inside look at the heroes and the "system" we deify on autumn weekends. While the Look. All-Americans were being wined and dined around New York, the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference (ECAC) was winding up its 24th annual convention in the same city. The most important issue before the convention was a pro posal to ban red-shirting. Red shining is the practice of holding a player out of compe tition for a year (usually his sophomore year) so he will have an extra year of athletic eligibility. While he is being "held out." the player actually practices with the varsity arid picks up experience. The debate on red shirting lasted quite a while but in the end the ECAC proposal—to limit eligibility to four consecutive years rather than five—was beaten, 51-27. We're happy to repOrt that Penn State, represented by Athletic Director Ernest B. McCoy, voted for the new proposal even though it was soundly defeated. The reason the new ruling didn't pass was that too many mem bers obviously felt that the proposal would impose extra hardships on colleges that didn't red shirt but had solid reasons for maintain ing a five-year plan. _ In addition fo Penn State, Pitt and Syracuse also voted for the new proposal. Once and awhile it's refreshing to see the big schools taking steps in the right direction to make the "system" a little better. College of Pacific Plans To De-emphasize Football STOCKTON, Calif. (fl 3) Col lege of the Pacific, long one of, the West's leading athletic inde-I peodents, yesterday announced al plan to sharply curtail football. I Unlike Marquette, which an nounced it was dropping football, the move at COP was aimed at i eliminating intersectional compe tition and reducing athletic schol-1 arships and the coaching staff. ATTENDING LIBERTY BOWL IN PHILADELPHIA? On Saturday, December 17, 1960 Special Hotel Room Rates at Philadelphia's Largest Hotel Room For One Person $B.OO Room For Two Persons $12.00 AB Rooms with Bath - Radio - TV The BENJAMIN FRANKLIN HOTEL CHESTNUT AT 9th, PHILADELPHIA 5, PA. By Sandy Padwe Collegian Sports Editor Cflil NBA President Fines Loscutoff for Misconduct NEW YORK Rl President Maurice Podloff of the National Basketball Association fined John loscutoff of the Boston Celtics Is3oo for "gross misconduct" in a game at St. Louis Nov. 29. The fine, one of the largest or dered by Podloff, followed a ref eree's report of a gesture made by Loscutoff. THE DAILY COLLEGIAN, STATE COLLEGE. PENNSYLVANIA Boa rd 84-78 Penn State basketball coach John Egli isn't alibing, he's stating pure fact when he tells you that the Lions lost to Wake Forest Saturday by just a few inches. The final score at Charlotte, N.C., was 84-78 and Len Chap pell's inches made the difference. The 6-8 Chappell, still recover ing from a knee operation, gath ered in 13 rebounds, just enough to help the Deacons control the game. "Wake Forest definitely won the game with superior board strength," Egli said. "They had 38 rebounds to our 25." Nevertheless, State, a 69-46 loser to Duke Friday night, treat ed the fans in the Charlotte Coli seum to an exciting show. Down four, 42-38, at the half, the Lions opened up at the out set of the final period and scored five quick points to take a 43-42 lead over the favored Deacons. As the crowd caught its breath, Chappell broke through for a spinning right, hander, to give Wake Forest the lead, 44-43. Two more quick buckets by little Alley Hart and 6-6 Billy Hull gave the Deacs a five-point lead and the Lions had a tough time trying to get even again. They finally did tie it at 73 with 3:10 left. Then Billy Packer, Wake est's high scoring guard, nected and Norman Snead, quarterbacks the Deacon Kennedy May Attend Orange Bowl Game PALM BEACH, Fla. (IF) Football fart John F. Kennedy is considering going to the Orange Bowl gridiron game in Miami on Jan. 2. The president-elect will be spending the New Year's holiday here with his family and the pos sibility of going to the game was announced yesterday by his press secretary Pierre Salinger. Navy meets Missouri in the Orange Bowl game and Kennedy already has invited Navy half back Joe Bellino and five team mates to visit him at his George town home in Washington, D.C. Wednesday. COLLEGIAN CLASSIFIEDS BUY. SELL, TRADE. TELL Strength. Gives Deacons Victory Over Nittanies For con- who grid Men who face wind and weather Skin protection, that is. Old Spice refreshes and stimulates, guards against the loss of vital skin moisture. Feels great, too. Brisk, bracing, with that tangy Old Spice scent, It does seem to attract female admirers, but what red-blooded man needs protection against girls? 1.00 plusses * * * LEN CHAPPELL ** * * team, followed suit to put Wake Forest in the lead for good. The loss dropped Penn State's record to 2-3, and all the losses have been to Atlantic Coast Con ference teams. The Lions lost their opener to Maryland, 64-47 and then lost to Duke. In between they notched wins over Purdue and Lehigh, Hart, the Wake Forest .co captain. was high for the Deacs Saturday with 29 points. Packer, who comes from Bethle hem, Pa., had 20 while Hull had 14 and Chappell 12. - . . Mark DuMars had a brilliant night for the Lions, scoring 23 points. His sensational floorwork and choose the protection of ... AFTER SHAVE TUESDAY. DECEMBER 13. 1960 shooting brought plenty of ap plause from the North Carolina fans who are fine judges of bas ketball talent. Right behind DuMars were State's two soph stars John Mitchell and Earl Hoffman. Mitchell had 17 points while Hoffman scored 16. Gene Harris had 14 for the Lions who played the whole game with just five men. Duke edged West Virginia, 66- 64, in Saturday's second game. Doug Kistler and John Frye led the Blue Devil scoring with 15 and 14 points apiece while Rod Thorn had 16 for the Mounties. Wake Forest (84) Penn State (18) Fir F Tp Fg F Tp Packer 9 2- 220 Dulfars 10 3- 423 Hart 13 3- 4 29 Harris 6 2. 2 14 Chappell 3 6-10 12 Trueblood 2 4- 0 8 Snead .3 1- 1 7 Mitchell 8 1- 1 17 McCoy 0 0- 0 0 Hoffman 7 2- 216 Woodard 1 0- 0 2 Hull 6 2- 9 14 Totals 36 14-20 84 Totals 83 12-16 78 Officials: Mills, Pelle Doke DM West Virgin/s (64) Fir F Tp Fr F TO 'Kistler 6 3- 3 15 Ritchie 1 2- 2 4 ,Heyman 6 1- 311 Thorn 7 2- 316 Youngkin 5 3. 5 13 Miller 0 2- 2 2 Hurt 2 1- 9 10 Poseh 2 4- 4 ft Frye 4 6-16 14 Shuck 3 3- 6 2 Mullin 1 1- 2 3 Patrons 6 1- 2 11 McCormick 4 2- 3 10 V isnic 1 0- 0 2 Dußois 1 0- 0 2 Totals 23 20-28 36 Totals Officials: ?Albalick, Eckman Basketball Scores College Purdue 83, Detroit 64 Indiana 66. Missouri 55 Rollins 63, Western Carolina 60 Bowling Green 68, Dusquesne 66 (OT) Florida State 74, Clemson 67 Otterbein 66. Ohio Wesleyan 65 Louisiana State 62, Texas 60 Duke 101, South Carolina 79 Louisville. 74, Georgia Tech 65 lowa 89, Creighton 11 Elon 17, Guilford 63 St. Vincent PO, St. Franck (Pa.) 66 St. Bonaventure 55, Xavier 75 cf&t . mt LOTION SHULTO P 4 14 16-21 64