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Editorial Opinion
HUB Lounge for TIM?
Cabinet's Right to Decide
The Town Independent Men Council will ask All-
University Cabinet tonight for a TIM Lounge in an
expanded lletzel Union Building.
The iequest will he taken to Cabinet by Association
of Independent Men President Edward Frymoyer.
We feel Cabinet should do everything in its power to
obtain a lounge in the HUB for the town independent men
for four reasons.
Fir:t, no one can deny that the town independent men
should have a meeting place of their own, some social tie
with the University that is not refused fraternity men or
men who live in residence halls.
Second, the' HUB is the ideal place for such a town
independent men's center. Here are located most of the
campus' recreational facilities—Lion's Den, ballroom,
game room and card room. Not only that, and this is im
portant, many of the town men eat lunch and dinner in
the Terrace Room and a lounge nearby would then cer
tainly be used a great deal.
Il is almost out of the question to consider building a
TIM headquarters in town because of the prohibitive
expense. Granted, it has been said that if the town men
cared enough they could raise the money for such a
project. But how can we expect this one-third, of the stu
dent body to care enough when they have nothing to hold
them together, neither the brothership of a fraternity
house nor the friendship of a residence hall?
The strongest male groups on campus are the fra
ternities; next, the residence halls groups. We feel it is
logical to conclude that interest and strength are pro
portionate to residence bonds.
While it is not the only factor, certainly the bonds of
friendship and the feeling of belonging are a necessity
for strength.
And a TIM lounge in one of the residence halls—North
Halls has been a suggestion . —is impractical, since few
town men would ever venture out to the fringes of the
campus,
Third, there is no reason to stubbornly hold that the
HUB is unavailable because it is a general student build
irig. Both the Camera Club and the Model Railroad Club
have rooms in the HUB, and many organizations—Student
Government Association, AIM, Leonides, Traffic Court
and others—have offices in the HUB.
Fourth, it is certainly within Cabinet's power as the
representative group of all students to decide how the
student union will be used. If Cabinet feels TIM should
have a lounge, and it feels the HUB is the ideal place for
it, then Cabinet has the right and should have the courage
to decide that TIM should have its lounge included In the
expansion recommendations.
It was Cabinet that asked for the HUB some years ago,
and it should be Cabinet now that leads the fight for a
center for the 4000 town independent men.
Where's the Class of '6l?
In class elections yesterday, 36.6 per cent of the
freshmen ('62) voted. A total of 16.9 per cent of the
sophomores ('6l) voted.
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Letters
Reader Backs
TIM Lounge
TO THE EDITOR: I was quite
impressed by the amount of in
formation The Daily Collegian
contained Saturday about Uni
versity expansion. One article,
"Students Can Help Develop
ment," brought out the fact that
students should better fend for
themselves, bear changes and
novelties in methods of teaching,
but should not ask for items of
convenience.
I feel that there should be con
veniences for students since they
are the largest and most import-
ant group on campus. If students
cannot ask for better conditions,
who is going to take their part?
Secondly, I believe that now is
the time for students to present
their ideas. If they don't do so
now, it will be too late when
the University has completed its
program.
I know of one group that has
realized this—the Town Inde
pendent Men Council.
It certainly is an injustice to
TlM—one-third of the student
body—not to have a place to
congregate when the other two
thirds does.
This action would not set a
new precedent because groups
smaller than TIM have a room
of their own in the HUB. This
lounge would not exclude any
one except on few occasions
Gazette
Air Force Gies Club, 3 p.m., HUB As-
xembly
All•C'nirersity Cabinet, 6 :30 p.m., 203
HUB
Alpha Phi Alpha. 8:30 p.m., 218 HUB
American 'nat. of Chem. Eag., 7 p.m.,
10 Oarnond
American Rocket, Society, 7 p.m., 106
Mech. F.ng.
Bridge Club. 6 .30 p.m., HUB Gallery
Christian Science Organization, 7 p.m.,
212 Chapel
Dancing Clans, 6:10 p.m., HUB Ballroom
Education Student Council Coffee Hour,
4-5 p.m., HUB Dining Room C
Election% 9 0.m.-11 p.ni., HUB Cardroom
Gamma Theta Upeiion. "Geography of
Japan," 7 p.m.. 208 Willard
Mlle!. Lecture: "Introduction of Jude
ism." 7 p.m., Hillel Foundation: Lec
ture series: "What Ale the Ultimate
Goals of Religion: From Aquinas to
Maritain I"' Hillel Foundation
Marketing Club, 7:30 p.m., Theta Chi
Fraternity
Newman Club, 7 p m., 213 HUB: freer.
nay and sorority committee, 6:45 p.m.,
212 HUB
News and Views, 9:13 p.m , 14 Home He
NUB Board. 9 a.m., 218 HUB
Sigma Gamma Epsilon, 7 p.m., 208 Wit-
lard
Student Major Club, 11 a.m., HUB As-
qembly
11C.A. Dormitory Councal, 6:15 p.m., 211
HUB: -Freohman Council, 6:30 p.m.,
21:t HUB
WRA Bridge Club, 7 p.m., White Hall
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when TIM sponsors an activity
and even then the group exclud:
ed would be very small.
Many Town Independent Men
have no facilities to entertain
their parents or dates.
Perhaps you have seen or
heard the slogan "Who are the
forgotten 4000?" They are sure
ly the Town Independent Men.
But they needn't be. All they
have to do is attend the Cab
inet meeting tonight to voice
their opinion. Don't give up the
fight for your lounge. Back your
TIM Council.
—Stafford 'Joe' Friday Jr.
Member of TIM Council
!Letter cut
Support Is Asked
For TIM Lounge
TO THE EDITOR: When Cabi
net was recently considering
r e c o m mendations for features
to be included in the Hetzel pro
gram it was presented with the
wishes of over 4000 Town Inde
pendent Men for a TIM Lounge.
So what happened? The Cabi
net, led by our beloved All-Uni
versity executives, proceded to
vote down the measure, our All-
U President breaking an 11-11
tie the wrong way!
For the 12 "nays," I have a
few words; First of all, do you
realize the immense potential
value of this lounge? It would
finally give us forgotten 4000 a
place we could call our own, a
place where • we could meet,
where we could take our dates
after a weekend show, serve re
freshments, dance, or just relax
and feel at home.
Why, then, won't Cabinet at
least give us a chance by recom
mending this lounge to the
Board of Trustees, and letting
the board make the final deci
sion? I do hope these 12 Cabinet
members will probe their minds
before tonight's meeting, and
that this meeting will demon-
Weekly Crossword Puzzle
ACROSS
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pottery.
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jurors: 3 words.
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overs.
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middle name.
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et al.
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THURSDAY. NOVEMBER 20, 1958
strate reason's superiority over
prejudice and weak, insignifi
cant objections. And you, fellow
Town Indie—if the leaden eye
lid is now opened arid the brow
raised, why don't you show up
at 6 . 30 p.m. Thursday at 203
HUB and make sure you won't
remain forgotten!
—Harold Sandstrom, '6O
member of TIM Council
o Letter cut
Students Decry
Political Parties
TO THE EDITOR: Penn State's
politicians have done it again,
contriving to produce one of the
emptiest and unrealizable set of
platforms we have seen, surely
an obvious reflection of the pres
ent state of student politics.
We believe that the voice of
the present political parties on
campus is entirely superfluous
to that of other student groups,
such as the student councils. Of
course it would be both wrong
and impossible to forbid any
type of political activity on cam
pus as a remedial measure—it is
feasible, however, for the ad
ministration to deny any use of
the University's facilities for
political purposes, perhaps forc
ing the parties to hold their
clique meetings on some frater
nity's front lawn.
Is the present method of se
lecting student representatives
fair, and more important, does it
ensure conscientious office-hold
ers, capable, by virtue of their
ideas an d position, of doing
something useful for humanity?
We think not.
It is our opinion that under
the present system, it does not
make one whit of difference
which party gets elected—can
there be a difference when there
is nothing to start with?
—Michael Dutko '6O
—Jerry Eckmah '6O
—Fred Shaffer '6O
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44 Native of Muscat. 23 Bottoms of shoes.
45 Evening party. 24 Pickled musk.
48 Skilled horse. melon.
shoe throws. 25 City in New
51 Y. I. P. in any York.
embassy: 2 words. 26 Procreated.
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wood. etc.
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name,
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longer haa
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animal.
writers: 2 words.
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river.