)AGE FOUR PUbifithtd 1 needs, through Saturday 'mornings during I the linlverelty year. the I Doily Collegially's a student ' metaled neweuelser. Itntered as second-clots wallet July 6, tnt at thu State College, Pa. Post Miro wider DIEHL McKALIP. Editor STAFF THIS ISSUE: Night Editor, Phyllis Propert; Copy Editors, Al Klimcke, Dottie Bennett; Assistants, Ruth Barnard, Jane Casselberry, Gail Gilman, Ron Leik, Harry Davis. Ad Staff: Esther DonovAn, Bose Ann Gonzales. How Would ODK Affect the University? (This is the last of two editorials about Omicron Delta Kappa, men's leadership honor society.) Actually, a local chapter of ODK would mean one more men's-honorary on campus. Further significance can best be described about two or three years after the chapter is founded. But until ODK comes on campus— if it does—several major points must ye xi sldered. 1. What effect would it have on present honor societies? 2. Does the University need a seventh men's honor group, and would ODK meet this need? 3. What is motivating its organisers and will motives affect the value of the organization? It seems doubtful that establishment of ODK here would conflict with or reduce the value of present honor societies. Overlapping is not necessarily a disadvantage. While students often have said we have too many "recognition" groups now, recognition in itself is not detrimental. It is only when group members misuse it that it loses its values. Thus, any loss of value due to a quantity of such groups would reflect on members attitudes, rather than establishment of the groups. Likewise, conflict between ODK and the pres ent senior honor group, Lion's Paw, would be a result of members' attitudes only. Both groups assumedly claim the same nature of goals— service and good for the University and recog nition of leaders—and because Lion's Paw mem bership admittedly does not exhause the sup ply of student leaders on campus, there is little apparent reason why the two groups could not function as contemporaries. Whether or not there is an actual need for ODK—or any other additional men's honor society—on campus is not answered so readily. Those organizing it apparently feel there is. If a great many students are going unrecog nized for jobs well done (and since recognition groups are a part of our campus life here) then most likely more groups are needed. It's also FMA: Win, Lose or Draw? (This is the last of two editorials explain ing the workings of FMA.) The Fraternity Marketing Association is look ing toward an expansion of its buying program. Its eventual goal is to offer not only more goods for sale but services as well. Such a program is working successfully at Ohio State, where FMA does a business of over $1.5 million a year. Not only does FMA offer food and furniture for sale:but services such as plumbing and painting at reasonable discounts. No one will argue that such an expansion at the University would be beneficial. But such a program will succeed only if fraternities are willing to participate in the program. At present FMA at the University has only 26 &ember fraternities. And again, we wonder why. Here are some of the reasons advanced by fraternities for not joining FMA: We're waiting to see how FMA works out." FMA can only be successful if fraternities participate. This "wait and see" attitude can do nothing but hinder it. The more fraternities that participate, the more buying power FMA will have. And the more business carries: on through FMA, the larger the discounts dealers will be able to give. By ordering in larger quantities, dealers can save money on deliveries and will be more willing to pass on savings to fraternities. Also, the more fraternities that participate, the larger FMA's operating budget will be. This will allow FMA to expand its program both in terms of the number of items it can offer for Revisions Committee 'Secrecy': Ridiculous The closed door policy of the All-University constitutional revisions committee has gone far enough. The committee, or those members re sponsible for maintaining the policy, are going overboard in keeping progress reports from the student body. The group has been meeting since the end of November. When it closed its doors to general "audiences" and the press, it promised progress reports to both All-University Cabinet and the Daily Collegian. One progress report was issued —.immediately before the end of the fall semes ter. Committee chairman, John Speer, indi cated this week that a second report would be coming Thursday. The report was not given. The general student body has been pro hibited from committee meetings for effici ency's sake—to facilitate discussion and avoid extended haggling over differences. Such de sires are quite logical: they are also a typical rationalization for any group which just doesn't want to be bothered, or put on the spot, by out side opinions and advice. To date, the committee reportedly has, made few major changes in the constitution—•most have been concerned with reordering. The first major change coming up will be in the court system, which part is under consideration now. The ea:ninittee has invited to its sessions those stud:•nt officers immediately concerned with the matter under consideration. Xtre natig Collegian Sate eeeee to THE FREE LANCE. sit ISS? .01:W. WILLIAM DEVERS. Business Manager THE DAILY COLLEGIAN STATE COLLEGE. PENNSYLVANIA evident that most of the men's hat societies are not fulfilling a maximum of service projects. And since few can deny the value of such pro jects as intense orientation programs, student faculty discussion groups, and leadership train ing programs, it seems ODK would have an open and unchallenged field. Whether or not the local chapter could or would meet these needs would depend, ulti mately, on the membership. Many students have objected to the seholastiC requiiements of the organization, saying that by demanding an average abo;.7e a 1.6, the group would be ex cluding some of the campus' best leaders. In considering .his point, students will have to decide if they think an activities leader should also have a better-than-average scholas tic record. • Another rather significant objection that has been voiced against ODK affiliation has been the fear that Mr: Sinclair, who is one of the organizers, is using it as a means to oppose Lion's Paw. In the past, he has been outspoken against the group, making various charges against it on the floor of All-University Cabinet, But regardless of Mr. Sinclair's possible mo tives, it is doubtful if ODK's national secretary, members of the administration, and the =- some students who have helped organize the potential chapter have apl but respectable rea sans for their support. It is also doubtful if one student, whoever he might be, could create policies not endorsed by a group's national leaders or the administration. We hope those supporting ODK affiliation and those still M. doubt about the wisdom of such action, will divorce as much prejudice as possible from their minds when they consider the matter, and try to view it from the stand point of whether the University needs ODK. Should the need be truly found, then we hope further that the formulation of the chapter will qualify in every respect as a leadership honor society sale and physical facilities. FMA is already thinking of maintaining full-time office facili ties, which would facilitate its buying program. Quality isn't so hot." The fraternities themselves are the check on quality of FMA goods. FMA members have a choice of dealers from which to buy. If the quality of goods supplied by one dealer is not satisfactory, the fraternity may always switch. "Who is behind FMA?" • The answer is simple—the member fraterni ties themselves. Each member has a voice in making FMA policy The general membership elects a Board of Trustees composed of 12 mem bers: five alumni members, five student mem bers, and two members at large. FMA is ad ministered by this group. "We can do as well as FMA on prices and discounts." In some cases, on individual items, this may be true. But as a whole,. FMA prices are less than individual prices. And if fraternities would combine to increase buying power, discounts and savings would be higher than they are now. Another consideration is this: At the present time, some fraternities may be able to equal FMA prices because they have a "deal" with a vendor. They have a cook or caterer who has con nections. For the present, this is fine, but cooks and caterers change, while FMA is a permanent thing. To sum up: The success of FMA depends on the willingness of fraternities to participate. —Don Shoemaker To this point, the committee has used logical procedure. What it IS doing is commendable. But what it is refusing to do is ridiculous. For instance, committee members are not sworn to secrecy, nor are students "invited" to the meetings. A Collegian reporter is allowed to attend the meetings and "know" what is being done. Then what is the committee afraid of? Ob viously, it is dreading mass reaction to its pro ceedings and mass opinion that might follow published reports. The committee seems to ignore the fact that mass opinion put each member in a position to do this revising. Committee work admittedly would be accomplished faster with a minimum of student comment; but then. elections, too, would be speedier if candidates didn't have to wait for votes. Gazette ... UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL Herbert Aboff, Edwin Biederman, Earl Cairns, Joan Can an, Marvin Daley, George Mahone, Burton Federman, Ger ald Fried, Robert Galloway, Seymour Goldstein, Barbara Brubawiez. Eugene Hanlon, Andrew Hibler, Robert Kaytea, Virginia Leary, Maurine Leonard, Jacqueline Mulcey, Rus sell Myers, Rob-rt Novak, Charles Palmer, Richard Parry, Ray Patterson. John Ryan, James Shambach. George Sons, William Strausser, David Williams, Larry Young. Editorials represent the viewpoint of the writers, not minimally the policy of the paper. Unsigned editorials ere by the editor. ..a of Mirth 3. 1373. —Peggy McClain —Peggy McClain le Man on Campus Who Came First? Greeks Debate It By DON SHOEMAKER Phi Gamma Delta is generally thought of as being the first national fraternity to be established at the University. But two other national groups are known to have existed on campus prior to the Phi Gamma Delta chapter. However, Phi Gamma Delta has been the fraternity with the longest continuous existence at the University. Phi Gamma Delta was estab-. lished on campus Jan. '7, 1888. In 1938, when it celebrated its 50th anniversary, an article, titled "First Fraternity at Penn State" appeared in the May issue of the Alumni sews. The article named Phi Gamma Delta as the first na tional fraternity at the University. McDonnell Challenges - On June 22 of the same year, Henry B. McDonnell, oldest male graduate of the University, wrote a letter to the editor of the Alum,ni News, challenging this claim. In this letter he named Q.T.V., a Latin letter group, as the first national fraternity. A local chap ter was established at the Uni versity in 1884. McDonnell was a charter member of the local chap ter of the fraternity was estab lished at Amherst College in 1869. At the time the local chapter was established there were six chap ters. Greeks Banned '±ll 'BB What the letters Q.T.V. stood for is not known. The group was known as a Latin letter society because Greek letter fraternities were banned at the University until 1888. Actually the first national frat ernity on campus was Delta Tau Delta, established in 1872. Be cause of the ban on fraternities, the chapter only lasted a year. It was re-established in 1912. O.T.V. Goes National In 1891, according to McDon nell, the membership of Q.T.V. "transferred bodily to the Psi chapter of Phi Kappa Sigma." Actually, the change was not en masse. A few of the members transferred to Beta Theta Pi, which was established at the Uni versity October, 1888. McDonnell cited the slow growth of Q.T.V. as the reason for the change. He said the members felt this might be partly due to the fact that the University was not a Greek letter group. . . . So Its First In a later letter, McDonnell said that Phi Kappa Sigma should be called the first fraternity. o'lf Phi Kappa Sigma forfeited its right of priority by changing from Q.T.V. to Phi Kappa Sigma, then . . . Penn State College should change its seal, as what was established in 1855 was the Farmer's High School." At the close of his last letter, McDonnell said: "It seems to me SATURDAY. I=EBRUARY'.I.2; .1965 By Bibler that the only debatable question is, if. the Psi 'chapter of Phi Kappa Sigma, because it was first char tered as Q.T.V., is entitled to claim precedence on that account. The Penn State College was first the Farmers' High School, and claims that date as its origin." As ytt the question has not been answered, but Phi Gamma Delta is still listed by the Uni versity as the first fraternity. Sones Reports On Success Of Orientation Vernon Sones, general chairman of the 1955 Orientiition program, has reported that the reception and orientation of the 400 new students on campus this semester was successful. Counseling sessions by 40 hat society men and women on Feb. 2 and 3 commenced the spring program. New men students met with counselors and discussed studying, curriculums, registra tion, the University, and other items designed to aid in adjust ment. Skits were presented to new women students in addition to the counseling by hat society women. A New Student Mixer on Feb. 4 concluded the program, Over 300 students attended the mixer which was initiated this semester. A similar but larger program for the fall is now being planned, Sones said. Camera Club to Meet The Camera Club will make plans for the organization of a permanent Camera Club on cam pus at a meeting at 7:30 p.m. Tues day in 241 Rec The group also will discuss the dark room facilities to be located in Hetzel Union Building. This Weekend On WDFM 91.1 MIGACYCLEEI 795 Shin an 7:30 Spode Roundup 7:35 Phil Wltift 5:15 -- BBC Featuree The Rhodes Scholar 8:45 Jolt for Two 9:30 HI PI Open House aaa -- shimiliabi he al D.