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PENN STATE COLLEGIAN
Pub Wiled semi-weekly during the College year, except
on hrieday s, by student. of The Pennsylvania State College,
n the interest of the C.liege, the students, faculty, akin ni,
snd friends
"% hanging Moe This N.SI e
News Editor Thin ',see
Entered as second class matter July 5 1924, at
the postoffice at State College, Pa, under the act
of March 3, 1571
Friday, April 28, 1930
DEBATE MONOPOLY
PROM APPROXIMATELY 6,000 students ev
ery year Penn State's debating teams—men and
women—receive about $3,000, all because the Col ;
lege insists on maintaining the 25-cent debating
fee per student per seniestel
Two yeals ago the students voted against this
policy in no uncettain manner But the Colleze
refused to lecognile this expiession of student
opinion and has continued to levy the fee semes
ter alto semester, veal after yea!
That debating is a um thwhile activity which
helps to build up the piestige of the College 1.,
not the ,question Nor is the 25-cent fee in it
self burdensome But why, 'the Collegian
should_ every student be foiced to pay 25 cent;
every semester, 517 cents every year, to keep up
a debating team when other activities, just as
worthwhile and pei haps even :note appealing to
the student body than debating, sic not given a
single penny, I ,
Why, for instance, is not a portion of that 25
cents given to the support of the Glee Club and
the other musical activities—activities as wmth
while as debating, activ.tie, just us "piestige
building" as debating, activities which in many
cases are more appealing than debating, activitie,
which have brought to the College pirAl intei
collegiate honors°
Under the new constitution, the Intel class Fi
nance Boaid, in conjunction with the All-College
Cabinet, will have the power to split this fee if
it so desires Its action will, of course, be sub
ject to the approval of the College administie
tion, arid those who stead to lose will fight it
tvith every trick of the trade—as they have dart
to date
However, if the student leaders who will
emerge from the elections next week will have the
courage to fight for their convictions, if they will
have the ability to present facts and figures, the
Collegian feels there is little doubt that the peo
ple who shell out the dough will have the tight
to say where that dough shall go
It's about time somebody smashed this unfair
control of the debating teams over student money
JOINING THE ISSUE
THE COLLEGIAN has failed to grasp a coin
plete pictui e of the entire situation, has distcated
facts and otherwise unfairly entiored the School
of7.,Liberal Ails Evei'y membei of the faculty,
for instance, has a voice in the determination of
School policy, although often this is not exercised
Piomotions are made_ on the ba4is ordemonsfrat
ed ability, iesearch rs iccognired, the School is
not a cesspool for flunking students, the admin.
istiation welcomes faculty and student opinion,
and thee is no discimunation in granting of
pi oniotions
Such today is the opinion of the administration
f l f the School of Liberal Ai ts Such, however, is
not the opinion of many faculty men, and there
by-hangs a sad tale of disagreement which must
be ironed out before the School can hope to con
tinuirits impiovement
That faculty men who have the chance to e•-
f preSS_opinion on matters 'pertinent to them do
not do so is the tragedy of the whole affair Why
they foil to do so is questionable, Init one reason
might be that without a definite system of pm
motion some of them fear then positions may be
jeopardized The administration calls this fool
ish,- yet -foolish things have a way of persisting
for :ye - its and years
It-seems that the best starting-point for the
adminiitiation would he the establishment of a
definite system of promotion, a system which
would be based upon demonstrated ability In
teaching, research, and also intelligence, a system
whieh would provide foi increases in saltily in
cn,itinction with mci eaves in lank, and a sys
tem which would not hesitate to weed out faculty
members who have demonstrated their inability
and incompetency
The administration sincerely believes it is do
ing its best The Collegian Just as sincerely be
lieviejt can do better In fact, both parties agree
there is definite room for improvement
There is no reason, then, why all interested
parties—administration, 'faculty and students—
should not join hands and stiles for this im
provement
BURY THE AXE, BOYS
EVERYTHING IS PAIR, they say, in love and
politica. So maybe these is some basis for the
presentliattle now raging between the Independ
ent and Campus groups as to which one should
take credit foi the establishment of the new stu
dent government
However, just to clarify the' issue for the witeis,
the Collegian would like to point out thal
,I—The movement to ieorgamze student govern
ment was started neither by an Independent
or a Campus man, but by a non-partisan. '(Sec
We Collegian for December 6 )•
2—The movement, once started, was supported
whole-heartedly by both Independent and
Campus representatives as can he seen by tl.e
unanimous vote by which Student Board and
Student Council twice passed the neiv con
stitution
On the - basis of these facts, then, the Collegian
feels that students who hope to - advance the wel
laieof the student body should realize that cre
dit for setting up the new government cannot be
Claimed by any one ,particular party to the ex
cluSiiin of the other, and that contmuatioh of this
battle between the parties will lead only to inter
necine warfare, sabotage and the premature death
Of the new constitution.
CAMPUSEER
George El Sehless '3O
Herbert Ninon .44
Advice, Given But Not Asked For
Everytnne Campy dies, he leaves behind a
colyum filled with either a last blast, as Swaim
did, of a ~ entimental Jabbeldash This Campy is
going to tiy to combine the two fat perfect sym
phony—os something
Before I Leave
In foul years of this place I've found that a
few faculty and administiation members can he
human—without limeting then prestige A went
bunch anyway you' look at them. Russ Clark,
because he's the kind of a guy you would want to
go fishing with Bill Schmelzle, because he Knows
what lie is talltmg about Piofllet, because
when he speaks you know it's authoritative and,
because 11,_ isn't afraid to voice an opinion Hal
Dickson, because lie knows what Penn State needs
(murals) and is putting up a tight foi it Bill
Jeffrey and Leo Haack, the ultimate sportsmen
Finally, for being good conversationalists the fol
lowing, Hum Fishbinn, Flughie Williams, Mock
McCaity, and Bob Galbiaith—any subject, any
time, any place
A Last Stab
The scene of our short play is laid in the Coi
legion news loom Time- about 3 .110 Monday
morning Characters, Maniac, his seem etai y and
Ti oanol/itch ,
Maniac Snoaaaawwww, tweeeeeeeeeee (mean ,
snore)
Semetaty Pm God's sake, boss, tell me the
test of that damn Winme Watson tale so I can
go home,
Ti °saw/itch What's the results on the Colle
gian's 659th poll on Rote, does anybody falon it
yet 9
Maniac (waking up with a star t) "Is this a
dagger I see before my eves.—” Snaaaaawwwwn,_
tweeeeeeeee
Sem etaiy How in the devil did Rocky get that
'Best Messed Man award' Even though' his Ma
chine couldn't get hun class inesident they paid
him back with a new suit—should we use that"
Maniat "The quality of meicy is not stiained
—snaaasaw"l
Troanovitch (Loolong up from his copy)
You should have heard Dean Stoddart give ore
Veil the other day I'm 'going to write anotldcr
editorial on the Liberal Arts school and tell the
people what, Doc Wueller thinks of it
Maniac So Winnie went up to the kappa home
and—i
Sec' etnry How do you spell likg?, in caps?
Tioanovach Leave Winnie out of that "chaff , "
Sem etal y Talking about the kappas, T hem
Winnie Bischoff and Bob Altman aie now Seen
together Wake up boss,
Maniac Just because she couldn't see the poli
s~bilit es nie' r
Tioanconteh Leave Winnie out!
Mamas Don't get excited'
Tioanovitch Who's gettin' exelted 9
Maniac As I was saying,--oh yes put in that
Stinky Sam Flanagan stinks—why, Jo Condi in
Junioi Prom queen, say something about the
Collegian's good choice in something
Troanovitch I heat the boys up on the "ma
nure pile" get two salai ms—ain't fan to My poll
science buds who fill up the space Salaries must
be lamed , '
Seci elm y Listen kids, it's four o'clock and I
must get my sleep.
Maniac (Dictating finally) "We went up to
Gelman-American Club and there I saw a whole
group of young people from State Al MacTav
ish, Joseph Blotz, Alex Kychai sky, and a whole
mob of thetas Tea was ' sei ved with everybody
doing his own pouring When was over these
fine Penn State's left Rumor bath it that Ski
Dick and Kay Bully wei e seen m Bodth 7 of
nrm yesterday—"
Tioanovittli (typing) "Rote is not', liked nt
Penn State /It 19 not liked because Dean Stod
dna. gave me hell the other day Pm thei more,
leave 'Mimi* out! Leave 'Mame out, and I am
not getting excited but Rotc, like sex, I guess, liKe
Deans, and stuff is here to stay "
P S If this gets by John, "All this and Hea
ven Toe wall be boa e, too '
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EZIEEMEM
Plan For War
Or Neutrality,
Says Ferguson
By DR. JOHN H FERGUSON
Legislative hearings now in
progress — In Washington have
'brought forth four or five widely
different - "neutrality" proposals
Before deciding upon any particu
lar plan there Is a more fundamen
tal Issue 'which one must answer
We must decide first of all upon
what' we *int:
ft We want to keep out of the
next war there IS no doubt about:
our ability to do so Unyielding_
determination is ,the essential ,
thing raven that determlnation.l
Our experience during the Wmld
War suggests that we ought to
(1) turbid Amet Man ships and
citizens front !levelling in wat.
zones, (2) relinquish out right,
title to, trade and commerce with
nations at war, (3) imam absn-,
lutel3/ impntttal In out official atti
tude and conduct towed the bel
ligerents '
On the OEII4 hand, If we waAt
England, Prance, Russia and their
satellites to win, then out policy:
must obviously he different Theii
can rnobahly win without out.stip-,
port, hilt this being out &she; we
ought to stand ready to assisti
thorn to the extent neceseanv to*
achieve victoty If eronotnk, as=
sistaince Is insufficient, then We
ought to,, ahul plobably would
send another expeditionaly rot ce
to Europa or the Put East to - en-, I
counter the Japanese,
FOR Takes Stand
1 ' President Roosevelt has made
his position clear Re, like Plesi-;
dent Wilson, has conc`ltided that.
se ought not to temain impartial
In a European, wet Unlike, Wil
son, iIONVPIIdI, the President has ,
announced in advance ot the c6n
filet that he wants the United.
State , ; to aSsfid England Flfince,
and Russia The Ptesident be-,
Neves tlitit by malting his attitude,
known the axis passers can lie
bluffed Into behaving themselves
Tf the bluff falls, as It has to date .
In the Par East and in Europe, the
Pt esident wanTrdlset ellanat y au
thority and an army and navy big
enough to use "measures stronger,
than war" to assist the Anglo-
French bloc The Piesident and,
rids ailvfsers are not thinking about
what we can do - to keep out of war
If it does come. • They are plani
zing how we can supply England„;
and her 'allies With 'rtiaterials trfltis,
Is the some policy which PreabilZ
'ell out entrance into the last war
So, T hello - fit, the impoitant Mies- 1 ,
tion for as to decide is not.. which
of seven al "neutrality'' bills' Is'
best That question is quite easily
answered when we am ee whethei
we Intend to 'main neneral unless
-
attacked, as the SAN% Norwe-,
glans, Swedes, Dutch, and Bel:
glans hake done, or whethe? we
Intend to itligland and het'
allies
- Lists Thomas Amendment
Those who have made up theh
minds and agree with the Pre74l
- ought to suppott the Thomas
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+ WHAT
DO YOU KNOW?
+ WHAT
DO YOU SAY?
By BERNIE NEWMAN
Do you think men shMilil 'be
allowed to use the facilities of
White Hall over week ends?
Henrietta Gutter - '39 HOme Eco
nomies "No ECCPpt: fot a 9NVIM
ming pool Ret. Hall has practical
ly the same facilities for, men as
White Hall does I'M women" '
Jim Conte '39, Phys I'd "Yes
Especially lot' dances There Is
ilso need fir additional facilities
inr men's intinmural sports, and
While ]fail would be the ans - Wei "
Gus Bigott '41, , Dairy Husban
dry "Vey The women have a
swimming pool in White. "Hall
which, if moiler arrangements
could he made, men could have
equal advantages - of"
Gene Kraorie '4l, Liberal Ark
'Let the women alone ti's HIM]
building"
Murray Druck '4l. Journalism
"When Rec Hall Is being used thr
tithe puipo4P4. am angtononin
amendment By that plan tlie
Pt esitient and Celia' P 44 would
pick the aggressor and place an
embalgo upon him, lints givink aid
to the victim To call this a "nen
! trallty" measure, how - ever, is sheer
Itypomisy Its adoption Would be
'worse than 'pluming to pte-war
neutrality Then, at least, we
made I - pretense of Imam tiallty
-tot two years ot mole, and We did
I amain neutral in the iambi stilt
might; 'hell as the Rui.sceJapan
ese. the BOP!, the Franco Prussian,
and the Crimean wars
Those who insist that we remain
neutral ought to ,rapport the Nye
Chult-Boone proposal This 'plan
Would limit the President's cu Trot
two foreign relations in time of
war it would also forbid entirely
. the sale of;pilmary military 'sup
plies to all belligerents and put
other commerce on a cash-and
carry hasl9
Compt , omise Plan
- „
Senptor Pittman's proposal is a
'possible compromise Under this,
all wining nations would he pet
Mitred to buy anything they_went
as Icing as they pa3rcash and - come,
and get ,It This it , ould did 'Mg
landand Prance who control the
'seaoand when ,IlieiVettish.iimi-Mit ,
) there c'a' chance . that' nimuld
'extend credit , to sitstain our -econ
omy On the other bind, 'this is
far better than the Thomas pro
pose), it is not our fault that Eng
land and,A :ince control the seas
and have' the = most cash, we
wouldn't be obligated to protect
the-merchandise pm chased in the
United States, ott; economic sys
tem would be less_ affected than
by the attention of other schemes,
we could tax munition , profits to
whatever extent desired, and we
might have the fortitude to resist
the temptation- to extend credit
when cash has been exliansted
All-College Lodge
Will Use Profits
Of Circus, kink
The Student Recreation commit
tee will wind up loner skating
With a 'final session in the Arrdory
tomorrow, 'Ray Conger, commit
tee Amman, announced yester
day
"We consider this second season
of teller skating a success," Con
gei said "An average of 300 stu
dents took-advantage of the sport
every Saturday it was held"
Conger, also trevealed that, all
the dm the ,spoi t
would ba tinned DM to the Recre
ation Planning Boaid licaded by
Di Elirdad C Dims, Of tffr School,
of Physical Educations and Ath
letics
The Boat d will use the money
as a pmt of the ga no mg fund rot
the most' action of an All-College
Mountain Lodge, according to Di
Davis ire also tevenled that the
money made nn the,
Onus would also beconfea pat t
of the fund
should he nude an that Intiamttral
anott4 eotild he carried out In
White flail 'Other thail that,
Witite tfall ghottia be ter women
only"
,Geottre Schenkeie , '4l: 'Liberal
Arts "No The building WIN de•
signed IM women, and nimbi he
used lry diem only Hox,evel, jam
bine,' swimming partis or other
recreational a ell vil could be - or
manned there" ,
Ed Harris '4l, Ai k and Letting
"Yes As long us It would norin
convenience the women In any
way, thete's no teases why over
crowded conditions Pm men stu
dents could not he relieved by
119'9 of White Nall" '
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Friday, 28, 1939