Page Two PENN STATE COLLEGIAN Published semi-weekly during the College year. except on holidays, hi strident. of The Pennsylvania State College, in the interest of the College, the etedents. faculty, Islam', and friends. CHARLES A. MYERS '34 FREDERICK L. TAYLOR '34 Editor Business Manager GEORGE A. SCOTT '34 HAROLD S. DATSCH '34 Managing Editor Circulation Manager WILLIAM M. STEGMEIER '34 H. EDGAR FURMAN '34 Assiquits Editor Local Advertising Manager FIF.RNARD H. ROSF.NZWEIG '34 JOHN C. IRWIN '34 News Editor Foreign Advertising Manager JAMES 3f. SHEEN '34 FRANCIS WACKER '34 Sports Editor Classified Advertising Manager RUTH M. HARMON '34 MAE P. KAI'LAN '34 Women's Editor Women's Managing Editor EVA M. BLICIIFELDT '34 • Women's News Editor e,:issocintecl (folleginte 13rtss =l= Alan:mine Ethic, This Ireue News .i.Mitor This Issue MONDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 11', 1933 OF LITTLE AVAIL Open student protest against the R. 0. T. C., for same reason or other, has been rather feeble. There has bean plenty of grumbling because of the irksomeness of the thing s and quite a little objection to the compulsory course on theoretical grounds. .But these protests have been confined to "bull sessions" and other occasions at which very little courage is required to attack the exist ing set-up. The letter of a freshman in this issue, therefore, is a welcome communication. Like any other opinion, it has points which could be questioned and proved flimsy. Bat it cannel be disregarded, even by those who would denounce it as "pacifistic." In substance, it represents the opinion of a good many students who have taken or are taking the two-year basic military course. The sympathies of this paper are not with the R. 0. T. C. On the whole, the time spent on the drill field . and in the classroom could be used to better advantage in other courses or activities. Military training itself is usually irksome, and of little value as physical exer cise. The aims and accomplishments of the R. 0. T. C., as listed in the College catalogue and quoted in the letter, are exaggerated. The ultimate purpose of any course in military training is one which does not receive the sane- tion of 'those who are convinced of the futility of war and its instruments. Finally, the "obligation" of any college to require military training is open to question. But these and other points are• familiar to almost everybody. They have already been expanded at great length, often to no avail. Some change for the better Was made in the It. 0. T. C. set-up here this year, but it did not greatly alter the charges which can be made against military training as a whole. There are cir cumstances, it seems; which prevent any really great changes. There is reason to believe that some persons in responsible positions would like to make a change if they could, but the.matter of expediency enters in. Be cause of this situation, therefore, it is difficult to see just what Can be done, other than swallowing the bitter pill. THE LETTER PUBLISHED last week regarding medical service here was published because the writer thought he had a just complaint to make. There have been other cases of a similar nature. Probably there is a good reason for the present situation. If there is ; some scrt of a dignified explanation should be forthcoming. At least, it would put a stop to charges which may be unfair. Silence merely encourages them. MANAGERS AND POLITICS The recent football managerial elections, hi which a non-fraternity man was elected a first assistant, should be a set-back to those who arc always howling about "polities" and "string-pulling." In this instance, at least, the men who did; the worlt , ,and ;were 00imost Capable presumably Were 'elected. The precedent is a, good one for future managerial elections to continue The calibre of the present senior sports managers is of the sort that gives promise of honesty and lack of favoritism in elections. In the past, there have been it good many instances of "I'll put your man in if you Put my man in." These gave rise, and justly so, to a student attitude which believed religiously that "the manager's man always made out." Consequently, there was a feeling of hopelessness on the part of a manager ial candidate who didn't have anyone to "pull" for him. This then led to the suggestion early this year that men belonging to the same house as the manager be barred from competing for a managerial position in that par ticular sport. Obviously, such a proposal if put into ef fect would do little to stop favoritism, as there could be "trades" between the managers of different sports.' Furthermore, the manager has only one vote in elec tions, and if men from his fraternity are barred from competition, then men belonging to the same houses as the other members of the elections board should be barred. These evident defects in the suggestion have led to its rejection. In its place, however, a much better proposal has been advanced, and used in the recent football man agerial elections. This plan requires that each of the three first assistant wanagers, in suggesting three new assistants to the elections board, submit three identical lists. If the three first assistants can agree on three men to succeed them, then the action of the executive board must be somewhat of the rubber stamp sort. If, on the other hand, three lists containing seven or eight different names are submitted, then the opportunity for "politics" at the elections board meeting is increased. Thls plan, coupled with a conscious desire on the part of some of the present managers to observe candidates at work and reward the best men, will remove much cif the truth from the charges of "politics" on this campus: Recently wcoverheard a freshman crying the age old grievance against the R. 0. T. C. But this fresh man had a constructive suggestion to make. "Why not," lie wanted to know, "do away with the Army in favor of the Navy?" He said he'd much rather be a sailor than a soldier any day. This suggestion has more merit than is apparent on first glance. Consider. Instead of being en veloped in itchy, ill-fitting uniforms the boys could wear a snappy blue ensemble which would go over big in Bellefonte and San Francisco. Instead of sitting through dull, laborious lectures the lucky students taking "Rudder-C" could be put to work building a =mow James H. Wntsoo. 3r. —Phillip W. FM, training ship on the front campus, or they could just play that they had a ship there. The flagpoles would help the illusion along. Sailors should know how to swim; they could be taught in the College duck pond near the Evergreens which would undoubtedly be a relief to the people who try to find a use for that forlorn spot. over to Penn State in China; they'd probably appre- date the . honor. By the way, does anyone know the identity of the lad who called up the Phi Mu house and asked the Pope if she Was going steadily? To our mind this past week-end takes an all time prize for wetness without apparent reason. The College was flooded with beer and conviviality, voices were constantly "raised in song," the whole atmos phere was decidedly mellow. Repeal? Well, maybe.' But the bottles that were so aggressively displayed were mostly old, faith fuls filled with very, very, new "moon." The Phi Gain house was rather crowded on Sat urday night, and some of the dancers were shoved right into the noses of the band. All of which is neither un usual or funny. But it so happened that Jim Norris (Thespian, Beta, Adventurer and Man About New York) was dancing - in just the right position when Emery May reached for a low note on his trombone. We understand that although Dean Warnock really did purchase a copy of The Old Main Bell, there is absolutely no truth in the rumor that Director Ben dek 'tried. to •buy Mit - the "ivhole simply!" MacFarlane and Marge Kushke at the Phi Ep house on Friday night . Fran Turner and Phillips at the same . . . who said they wished Sue Hoffer would let down her hair? ... such an unbraiding all is not what it Seamans in the "Y" ... who poured The Campuseer into bed Saturday night? . . . Fay Christine claims to he simply ga about uniforms ... and `as dawn:,bipaks: over a •siltnt, ilserted, campus, your. little Mani'ae does an "Of.eto Buffalo" into the shadows, wishing you a merry, Merry, New Year. We hope yule like it. BUY MEN'S GIFTS from a MAN'S STORE 4 - McGregor Leather Jackets ._____ 8.95 to 10.00 Mufflers • $1.65 to 2,50 Hacking Scarfs 2.00 Handkerchiefs 3 for 1.00 Interwoven Socks ___ 2 for 1:00 Manhattan Shirts __'2.oo to 3.00 Sweaters 2.50 to .4:50 Leather Wallets ____ 1.50 to 6.50 Fitted Cases 6.00 Manhattan Pajamas 2.00 to 7.50 House Slippers • • 2:50 Flannel Robes _._:_i6:so' - tos 12.50 Stark Bros. & Harper HATTERS—TIABWASHERS—TAILORS . . OLD MANIA Or they could put soils on Old Main and sail it VERSE Ifaa Repeal of Prohibition Slain the "Co-ed Inhibition"? MEZZO] MEZZOS ANNOUNCEMENT Mr. and Mrs. X. X. Fletcher announce the engagement of their daughter Nancy "Boots" Frizz°ll Well, "Boots," we just thought you might like to EIZZZEI MICKY FINNS THE PENN STATE COLLEGIAN `Collegian' Letter Box To the Editor:the disciplinary features of the course. I am irritated by the course in' It is only, too true that discipline is "citizenship" training otherwise corn- the point receiving the most emphasis; manly known as R. 0. T. C. Annoyed, but this is the discipline of obedience perhaps, because I can not interpret to the dictates of a single individual citizenship in terms of rifles, marks- and require the order to be carried manship, close order drills, brass out regardless of consequence or bands, and the practical and their- merit. In the tradition of the soldier, etical instruction of the soldier. My "It's not for us to wonder why; exposure to three months of drill corn- but for us to . do or die." This is not polls me to suspect that Noah Web- the development of individuality: This, ster, too, is 'unfamiliar with the term is the foundation of mob rule. in its relation to R. 0. T. C. Beyond all doubt, there are those It arouses the suspicious nature in who question the truthfulness of these a student when he learns that he has been gently coerced into a movement which bears no semblence to the con ception that he once treasured of it. I He is disillusioned because he has ac- I cepted at full value its virtues as they have been so vividly portrayed to him. He wonders why it was necessary to use pretense to - •urge him to join the ranks. He has been told that R. 0. T. C. has been instituted "to give training in leadership to male stu dents . . . . as will be of value to them in civilian, industrial, or profes sional careers," and then speaking of graduate students in R. 0. T. C. "they become the professional associates of prominent men :in their community." (Quotation' from-College Catalogue). After he becomes better acquainted with the course,- he finds that he has lost "liberty and independence" which his fore-fathers tried. to secure for: him on the bloody fields of the Revo- 1 lotion, because he is not permitted to question or discuss the value and' pur pose of R. 0. T: . C. in the class room. The War Dept. prescribes that "this course shall be taught by the didactic method, without discussion and with out argument." (Excerpt froin the Training Manual issued by the War Dept.) • They tell hilit that he profits from Do • Your Christmas Shopping' Now • at Crdbtree's • BEER: CASE .GOODS Flo'dhi , --Graupner—Sehlitz—Blatz—Philipsburg • Blue Ribbon—Valley Forge DRAUGHT BEER ~, • flocks—Philipsburg—Graupner VALLEY FORGE ALE • FOR COLD WINTER NIGHTS HILLSIDE ICE COMPANY Always Cold and Ready.to Serve! ; Phone 136-J - Delivered No Deposit on Kegs THE MANIAC PENN STATE PENNANTS PILLOW TOPS p., SCRAP. 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