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TUESDAY 141ORNING, APRIL 14 1863.
THE CAMERON BRIBERY CASE.
REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE TO INQUIRE
INTO THE TRUTHOF CHARGES MADE BY
T. JEFFERSON BOYER, MEMBER OF THE
I.EGISLATURE FROM CLEAR FIELD COUN
TY, OF ATTEMPTS MADE BY GEN. SIMON
CAMERON, DIRECTLY, AND THROUGH
THE AGENCY OF COL. JOHN J. PATTER
SON AND WILLIAM BROBST, TO BRIB E
BOYER, BY THE OFFER OF MONEY AND
PROMISE OF A LUCRATIVE APPOINT
MENT, TO VOTE FOR THE ELECTION OF
THE SAID SIMON CAMERON TO THE
SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES.
TESTIMONY OY 'WILLIAM N. POTTEIGBL.
WILLIAM N. POTTEMM being drily sworn
according to law, testifies as follows :
By Mr Wakefield. Where do you reside,
and what is your present business in Harris
burg ?
Witness. I reside in Berks county, and am
at present a member of the House of Repre
t3eutatives.
By Mr Wakefield. Have you apy knowledge
of the employment of any unlawful means, by
any one, to secure the election of an United
States Senator in the election of January last,
or any attempt so to do, and if so, state
fully.
Witness. On the 24th day of December last
I was in Reading, at the Keystone House ; Mr
fFilliam Brobst asktal me to have a quiversa
lion with him ' - he requested me to accompany
him into the bar-room of the hotel and take a
drink with him; I was just starting for home,
but I did so; we . seated ourselves; be said, I
understand you are re-elected to the Legisla
ture, and asked me whether this would be ay
last . term; I replied that I supposed it would be;
he said this was a very wrong thing to elect
members for only two terms, and that they
ought to be elected for three; he then remarked,
as I was located in the upper end of the county,
I had scarcely any chance for re-election, or
election to any other position, as these matters
were always arranged by the sharpers, (pond
tieians ;) he then said, such treatment his bro
ther received; he, after tome conversation, said
that be desired to say something to me, if I
would not betray him; he had before said that
be had been around by my house, and had in_
attired for me, and was too glad to find me so
early ; I told him in reply to his remark, that
this dependectupon what he desired to commu
nicate; he repeated his remark; I told him
again, - that it depended upon what it was, and
if I could honorably end consistently do so, I
would; he then said, well I know you won't
betray me ; I replied as before ; be then said,
he wanted to know who we intended to support
for United States Senator ; my answer was Mr
4 Jones ; he then asked what we intended to do
alter Jones was out of the way ; I replied that
we had no second choice; he said that Mr
Jones's chance amounted to nothing; I told him
I did not know; he then said he wanted me to
vote for Simon Cameron, and that by doing so
I could make en independent torture; be re
marked that it was csnsistent, that I might
support Mr Jones in caucus and on that sub
then stand off from the caucus nominee,
and then at the election vote for Cameron ; he
said it made no difference, that I could vote
after that with my party on all other occasions;
he said Cameron had always been a Democrat,
and would be one soon ag ain ; if he could get
to the Senate, he would b e the great man there,
and would change the policy of the administra
tion in regard to the war; he said I had better
let party go to the devil, and make this money;
he then desired me to name a day, on which
Jae might bring Simon Cameron down to Berks
county, and make a final bargain ; I refused to
do so ; he ahen said, I will bring General Cam
eron to your own house, if -you will agree to
it; I refused that, and told him I had to leave
for my home, and we would talk no more about
it, but he could see me when I reached Harris
burg; I arrived in Harrisburg on the sth of
January; Brobst came that evening to my seat
-in the House, and wanted to talk with me ; I
told him that I could not, that I had to go to
the caucus ; he asked if he could talk to me to
morrow evening; I told him it might answer;
the next evening he came, and then I told him
had an engagement for that- evening, and
could not talk with him , he then asked me
when it would suit me; I told him to-morrow eve-
Ilium he said that would not suit him, as he had
another gentleman to take down to Cameron's
on that night; he said, well then, I will come
and see you on Thursday evening ; he came on
Thursday evening, and I told him we bad a
-caucus on that evening, and I could not see
him; about ten o'clock, after the preliminary
caucus, he called at the Pennsylvania House,
where I boarded, and called me aside, and we
bad a conversation ; he said that Comeron had
timid in town expressly on his account, as he
had promised that I would come and see him;
I told him that I would not do it ; he then
wanted me to go ; he said they had several
ether men but he wanted me to do it, and that
I would not regret it if I did it, as I could make
a big thing out of it ; I then asked him what
be meant by a big thing; he said I could get a
good position or office ; I told him I desired no
office; be said . if I would only go along, I could
get anything that I desired; I asked him how
high be could go; he said he would guarantee me
five thousand dollars in band, and a peal ion
worth forty thousand dollars ; I told him I
would not ; he said I must go ale g, and if
Camtron w‘uld not satiety me as to that, it
should to no bargain; I asked him if I was to
vote or ab-ent myself; he said it was at my
pleasure to choose which; he said let, us go
Clown and we will arrange all; I tie u lola him
would not do it, and that I had made up my
'mind to have nothing to do with the case at
all; I told him I would net do it. that I would
take no money, and could be bought by no mo
tile!? i he then o id, we will say nothing more
about it, and we pitted ; I forgot to vtate, that
when at Beading, in D mber. Mr Brobst said
to me, that I could make twenty thousand
dollars, and that they had four other men,
among them Dr Royer, of Cle a rfield, but th at
th e y w anted to get a more reliable man; when
he told me at Rarriebutg, eh t he bto several
ether m.n, he also added that one of them lived
in this house. (the Pennsylvania House_) and
the I saw him every day ; that is all that oc
tarred between me and Mr Brobst,
By Mr Kaine. D d you go down on the L e
bases Valley radrord in the cars with Simon
Cameron. and others, on tt.e Fo iasy re ore the
fleuatorial election, and it so, char Con m a ,
tion to.k place between you and Simon Cam
eron, or any one else, on this subject f
Witness. I and my colleague (Mr Weidner)
ert , o-ed the care, and after we had spirted Cap
tain Eshelman occupied a se t right alongside
cf me, Lod he said there is Simon fktnerovi ;
Cameron. Dr. Faller end S n-tors Lag! e•tee
add oc c upied seats behind uM-two
Se its bark; B-belman inqu.red if we were ac
quainted with C m ton; I answered no; he
said ha would lintroduee us to Cameron ; Mr
Weidner and myself said we did no desire it ;
very shortly atterwards Cameron left his seat
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and came forward in the cars ; Eshelman rose
up and introduced Cameron to us; Cameron
took a seat along side of me; I do not recollect
all the conversation; he spoke of the beauty of
the road; be said he had several fine farms
below the city, and said gentlemen,l want you
to come and see me; but do no t come until
after this election has transpired, as gentlemen
were afraid to come in these times; he said
this jokingly.
By Mr Keane. Do you know John J. Pat
terson, and was he in the cars f .
Witness, Yes, sir; before we entered the
cars some one said to me that is John J. Pat
terson ; I saw Mr Patterson on the care after
they started ; Mr Cameron left the seat which
he occupied alongside of me, and went forward
to the front seat where Mr Patterson was' sit
ting, and took a seat alongside of him in the
front part of the oar, and afterwards returned
to his first seat. I saw Mr Patterson after
wards leave the cats.
By Mr Wakefield. Did you communicate
what occurred between you and Mr Brobst at
Reading to any other person, and if so, when
and to whom?
Witness. The conversation was on the 24th
day of December ; I went home and the next
day communicated all the facts to my brother
in-law, Adam Bright, my two brothers, John
M. Potteiger wnd Adam M. Potteiger, and on
the next day to Samuel M. Klee, Esq., and
Psul Wenrich, Esq.; on my way to Morris
burg, on the 6th of January, I communicated
the facts to J. Franklin Filbert.
By Mr Brown. When Mr Brobst saw you at
Reading, and after talking with him, were you
led to believe, and did you believe, that his
motive in seeking interviews with you, bad re
ference to imprOper intentions with reference
to the United States Senator?
Witness. I was, and did so believe.
By Mr Brown. When Brobat said to you
that he bad confidence that yon would not be
tray him, what reply did you make?
Witness. I answered him as I stated three
times before ; when he said he had confidence,
I answered nothing as l nad nothing to say,
and he done all the talking himself.
By Mr Brown. When you became suspi
cions that Brobat had improper motives in
seeking an interview with you, why did you
allow him to hold farther conversation with
you upon this subject; and what motive had
you for assenting to appointments to meet you
which Brobst desired?
Witness. In the first place, I considered if
any man was mean enough to approach me, I
wotdd listen to all he had to say.
.By Mr Brown. Had you any design in thus
listening to him, or was your design in thus
listening to him, to elicit from him his plan of
operations ?
Witness. It was, and with the intention of
cheating him in the end.
By Mr Brown. In order to effectuate that
intention, did you either by language or con
duct, seek to impress his mind with the belief
that you were to somo extent acquiescing in
his schemes ?
Witness. Nothing more than I put him off
from one evening to the other as long as I
could.
BY Mr Brown. Had you any knowledge,
prior to the election of United States Senator,
of the action that Dr Boyer was taking with
reference to deceiving General Cameron ?
Witness. I bad; Boyer told me on Friday
after we got to Reading, as we went down
through Washington street ; lie said these
hounds are after me, and I have a great notion
to take a few thousand, and then give them a
complete blackguarding in the bargain ; he said
Cameron was in his room to see him.
By Mr Brown. Did you know, or did you
Suppose at the time of this conversation with
Dr Boyer, that he, Dr Boyer, was engaged in
a scheme to entrap General Cameron ? -
Witness. I supposed so from his conversa
tion, because he would not have told me so
unless he intended to do something. 1 had
asked Dr Boyer if he was not afraid of doing
so, and he said he was not afraid of anybody ;
and I also so supposed, from the fact that my
motive was to act out the thing 'and defraud
them out of their undertaking.
By Mr Brown. What other persons, to your
knowledge, were privy to this design to deceive
General Cameron or his friends, by inducing
him or them to believe that Democratic mem
bers of the Legislature would vote for him for
the United States Senate, or absent them
selves?
Witness. I know of none other.
W. N. Porrsiam
TESVMONY OF HENRY THOMAS.
HENRY THOMAS being duly ewora according
to law, testifies as follows.
By Mr. Koine. Where do you reside, and
what is your business ?
Witness. I reside at Harrisburg, and am in
the coal business.
By Mr. Keine. What part, if any, did you
take, or what efforts, if any, did you make, to
secure the election of any particular person to
the United States Senate? State fully on this
subject.
Witness. I made all the legitimate efforts I
could to secure the election of General Cam
eron.
By Mr. Keine. What efforts or arrangements
did you make to secure an interview or inter
views between Gen. Cameron and members of
the Legislature for that purpose ?
Witness. Nene.
By Mr. 'Caine. Had you any arrangement
made, or did you make any arrangement, to
take any members of the Legislature to visit
Gen_ Cameron at his residence ?
Witness. I had not and did not.
By Mr Seine. Do you know of any arrange
ment or understanding by which General Cam
eron was to meet certain members of the
Legislature at sour house?
Witness. There positively was none, to the
best of my knowledge and belief.
By Mr. Swine. Did you invite any members
of the Legislature to meet at your house on any
particular evening prior to the election of the
United States Senator?
Witness. I did—Messrs. Graber and Free
land.
By Mr. 'Caine. Was there any understand
ing by you with any person tit it, any other
members should be invited to be present on
that o-camion ?
Witness. To the best of my knowledge there
WAS none.
By Mr Swine. What other members of the
Legislature were there on the occasion referred
to ?-
Witness. Mr. Kerns.
By Mr. Koine. Was Simon Cameron there
on that occasion. or shout that time?
Witness. General 0-imeron was not there
on that occasion, hut. he had previously visited
my house, and has done so since.
By Mr. Knipe. Can you fix the day of the
rTeuiag en which Messrs. Freeland and. Gratoer
were at your house ?
Witness. I can not.
By Mr Kahle. wee John L. Hammer present
on Inv oeeseinn referred to ?
Witness He w■s
By Mr K4lne. Was Simon eenteron at your
houhe the next m o rn i ng an•l did he tike break
fast tbere with nny members of the Legislature
and if so, with whom ?
Witness. General Cameron Was that.. .1
HARRISBURG, PA:, TUESDAY. APREL 14, 1863.
took breakfast at toy house; I believe Ur Wolf
did, but no other members.
By Mr Keine. Did you send for Mr Wolf to
come to your house for breakfast on that cc
casion ?
Witness. Emphatically, no.
By Mr Kaine. Do you know of any person
going or sending for Mr Wolf to take. breakfast
at your house on that morning ?
Witness. Emphatically, no.
By Mr liable. Were you acquainted with
Adam Wolf, the member of the Legislature at
that time Y •
Witness. If I was it had not exceeded one
day's acquaintance.
Dy Mr Koine. Had you seen him the day
before sr on that day ?
Witness. Ido not remember.
By Mr Kaine. Had you any conversation
with Conrad Graber, on the evening of the
meeting at. your house referred to, relative to
the election of the United States Senator ; if so,
what did you say to him in reference to that
subject?
Witness. I remember some one at the table
drinking a toast hoping that General Cameron
may be the United States Senator ; I said to
the gentlemen, from Schuylkill (Messrs Kerns
and Graber) that I thought they ought by till
means to stick to • Frank Hughes, but in the
event of his defeat, I hoped to God they would
vote for Simon Cameron ; but I positively assert
that I did not drink (I mean offer) the toast re
ferred to.
By Mr Saine. Did yon take Mr Graber into
a aide room on that occasion or the next morn
ing and have a private interview with Mr
Graber on the subject of the election of the
United States Senator, and if so, what did you
say to him, and what did he say to you ?
Witness. I took him on the next morning
into my parlor, and for this purpose ; I was
informed the night before that Mr Graber came
,to my house with the intention of extorting
from me ten thousand dollars for the purpose
of himself and a fritnd of going into the wood
business down south—this having been rep
resented to him as a big speculation ; hence my
object of calling him into the parlor was to find
out by what means he intended getting the
above money from me.
By Mr Beebe. State fully allyour conversa
tion at that time.
Witness. I asked Mr. Graber what it was
he wanted; about that time Mr Kerns came
out through the hall and Mr Graber hurriedly
answered wait until Berns and I come from
Schuylkill county and I will let you know ;
my object in asking him what he wanted was
to know about this ten thousand dollars.
By Mr Kaine. When and where did you
meet Mr Oraber first after he came to Harris
burg?
Witness. On the lawn coming up to the
Capitol.
By Mr Kaine. Had you any interview with
Mr Graber in the hall of the House
Witness. Ido not remember that I had.
By Mr Kaine. On the occasion of sour first
or any subsequent interview with Mr Graber
did you invite him to call at your house on that,
evening.
Witness. Mr Graber is an old and valued
freind of mine, and not having seen him for
several years, I of course invited him to call at
my house.
By Mr Kaine. Had you awy-venverastion
with Mr. Kerns on that evening on the subject
of the election of United States Senator,
personal or private ?
Witness. I said to Mr Kerns, "By all
means stick to Frank Hughes as long as there
is a chance for him, but in the event of his de
feat, for God's sake, vote for Simon Cameron."
By Mr Kaine. On the evening referred to
did you take Mr. Kerns aside into any room,
and then and there have a conversation with him
in reference to the election of the United States
Senator, and if so, state fully what you said to
him, and what he said to you ?
Witness. My answer to the previous ques-
Lion is the sum and substance of all the con
versation that I had with Mr Kerns in reference
to the United States Senatorship; I did not
take Mr. Kerns out of my parlor where the
whole party were until we were called to sup
per, at which time we all left the room together.
By Mr Keine. After supper did you not
take Mr Kerns into a room seperate and apart
from the company and there have a conversa
tion with him on the subject ?
Witness. Emphatically, no.
By Mr Keine. On that occasion, either in
the evening or the morning, what conversation
had you, if any, with Mr Kerns on the subject
of a railroad contract?
Witness. 1 remember having a conversation
with Mr Kerns in reference to railroading,
but not in connection with the United States
Senatorship; I have known Mr Kerns by
reputation as a railroad contractor for some
years ; I had a railroad that I wanted built my
self, I also knew of other roads which were
soon to be let, and I had previously intended
bidding for the same, and thought Mr Kerns
very suitable person to take in with we ; Mr
Kerns cheerfully assented to going in with me,
and at the same time expressed himself tired
of Schuylkill county.
By Mr Keine. What amount of eel/mated
profits did you and Mr Kerne conclude could
be made out of this railroad contract
Witness. Not knowiug what amount of
work could he awarded, I could not come to
any conclusion as to profits.
By Mr Kaine. What railroads were these
you referred to ?
Witness. One to be constructed by the Ly
kens Valley railroad company up Williams'
valley—another, the extension of the Northern
Central railroad- to Canton, and the one refer-
red to of my own.
By Mr Kaine. What conversation had you,
if any, with Mr Graber on the occasion of the
meeting at your house on that evening, or at
any other time, relative the lease of coal
works ?
Witness. I remember wben I first met Mr
Graber that we had a conversation to the
following effect, to wit: He (Mr Graber) com
plained bitterly of the dullness of trade in
Schuylkill County, and mated me if I had nay
thing that I could give him to do in Lykens
valley; I answered him probably that he had
better come over to Lykens valley and I would
sell out to him; this, to the best of my recol
lection. is all the canvereation I had with Mr
Graber on the subject.
By Mr Beebe. Wile' had been your previous
business relations with Mr Graber?
Wits. s. Atout six years ago Mr Graber
was in the coal - nosiness in Shuylkill county,
and I was engaged at the same place as civil
and mining engineer; I examined and re
ported on the condition of Mr Grater's mines
once in every three months ; Mr Graber had
frequently expressed himself as being very
much pleased with the impartial manner in
which I m tde my repine; the last time I
heard him express himself as above was at the
meeting at. my house; hence my mutual good
will and attachment to Mr Graben
By Mr. Beebe. What are your business and ,
personal relations with General Cameron ?
Witness. Simon Cameron and myself are
• mach attached to each other as though we
were father and s ; Ido all my banking
business with him, which amounts to several
hundred thouesind dollars a year ; we have had
1 several other important business transactions ;
he and his family visit my house and I his, and
he frequently drops into my house and takes
meals and drinks wine ; we are on such inti
mate terms that he even does this without any
special invitation.
By Mr. Beebe. What are your business
and social relations with Mr. John L. Ham
mer ?
Witness. Mr. Hammer and myself are inti
mately acquainted and well disposed one to the
other; he visits my house and I his ; we have
no business relations.
By Mr. Beebe. Did you at any time prior
to the election of the United States Senator,
on your own account or at the instance of Gen.
Cameron, by yourself or through the agency
of any other person, offer to any member of the
Legislature money or any other inducement to
vote for General Cameron for United States
Senator, or did General Cameron authorize you
at any time to make any such offer ?
Witness. General Cameron nor any other
person ever authorized me, nor did I ever offer
or authorize any other person to offer, any
money or any other inducement to procure the
election of General Cameron, anything further
than by mere matter of persuasion.
By Mr. Brown. Do you know one Robert
Ratliff, of Tamaqua., Schuylkill county ?
Witness. Yes, air, intimately.
By Mr. Brown. Did you at any time direct
Robert Ratliffe to inform Mr. Graber that yon
wished to see him as soon as he came to Har
risburg ?
Witness. Mr. Ratliffe spent a Sunday at
my house, and among other conversation we
happened to speak of the fall election which
had just passed; Mr. Ratliffe mentioned to me
that Mr. Kerns, from Schuylkill, and Mr. Gra
ber were their Representatives ; I said to Mr.
Ratliffe that Mr. Graber was an old friend of
mine, and should he happen to see him he
should tell him that I would be glad to have
him call on me when he came to Harrisburg.
By Mr. Brown. Was this desire that Mr.
Graber might call on you at your house based
upon any design or iatention on your part to
influence his vote for United States Senator ?
Witness. It was based on old friendship
only.
By Mr. Brown. Who all were present at
your house at supper that evening?
Witness. Messrs. Kerns, Graber, Freeland,
Eshelman, Boyer, (Col. Zacharias,) Hammer,
are all that I remember.
By Mr. Brown. Was the meeting at your
house on that evening for the purpose of influ
encing members or procuring votes for General
Cameron'for United States Senator, or was it
merely a social gathering ?
Witness. It was a social gathering.
By Mr. Brown. Did you at that time, or at
any other time, say to Mr. Graber that General
Cameron had control over a colliery where a
man could make seventy-five thousand dollars
a year, and that he would let it all go, provi
ded he could secure his election as United
States Senator, or did you use words to that
effect, and add thereto that elle vote would do
Witness. I positively did not.
By Mr. Brown. Did you at any time say to
Mr. Graber to make his own figures on the
subject of Senator ?
Witness. I don't remember at any time such
a oonYeratiggn,
By Mr. BrOwn. Dia yon - te - quest - Mr. Kerns,
or invite Mr. Kerns, to go with, you to General
Cameron's on that evening ?
Witness. I think I asked the party, pro
miscuously, to go down to General Cameron's,
as I was going down, about the time the party
broke up.
By Mr. Brown. What was the object of
asking them to visit there ?
Witness. It was nothing more or lees than
a mere friendly request.
By Mr. Brown. Did you the next morning
ask Mr. John L. Hammer to invite Mr. Graber
to your house ?
Witness. I did not ; neither did I invite or
ask any one else to invite any other members
of the Legislature there.
By Mr. Brown. Had General Cameron's
visit to your house on that morning any refer
ence, or was it far the purpose, so far as you
know, of having any interview with members
with the view of procuring their support for
Senator ?
Witness. It was not, to the best of my
knowledge.
By Mr. Brown. Was General Cameron's
presence at your house that morning a matter
'which was pre-arranged ?
Witness. When I saw the General the even
ing previous he told me that he was going to
be in town early the next morning ; I sail to
him I was going to have an early breakfast for
some of my friends that were going away, and
inasmuch as he was coming into town early
that he should join us; the friends referred to
-were not members of the Legislature ; there
was no other pre-arrangement than this.
By Mr. Brown. Had you, in your conversa
tions with Mr. Kerns relative to railway con
tracts, any purpose or intention to influence
his vote for Senator ?
Witness. Nothing more than what I had
previously stated.
By Mr. Brown. Do you know a man of Oa.
name of Benjamin Gouldey ?
Witness. I do, he resides in Schuylki
county; I have a slight acquaintance wit,
him.
By Mr. Brown. Did you authorize or request
Mr. John L. Hammer or Mr. Benjamin Goul
dey to invite Mr. Wolf, or any other members
of the logislatnre, to your house on the even
ing referred to, and if so, had ouch request any
reference to controlling or influencing the elec
tion of United States Senator ?
Witness. I may have authorized Mr. Ham
mer to extend the invitations to any of his
friends, but am not certain as to that, but feel
positive that I did not authorize Mr. Gould
nothing was thought or mentioned about Uni
ted Sates Senatorship.
By Mr.. Brown. Had you on the morning
referred to a conversation with Wolf in the
dining room after the other gentlemen had
retired to the parlor?
Witness. I don't remember that I bad any
conversation With Mr. Wolf on that morning.
By Mr. Brown. Did you ever say to Mr.
Wolf that if he voted for General Cameron be
should be well paid, or words to that I ffee ?
Witness. I don't. remember asking Mr. Welf
to vote for General Cameron, or talking to him
on the subject..
By Mr. Brown. You stated that you were
informed that Mr. Graber had oome to your
house to extort money, by whom were you in
formed?
Witness. By my friend, Mr. Eshelman, who
told me to be on my guard.
By Mr. Kaine. Did yon go down to General
Cameron's on that evening atter the breaking
up of the party at your house ?
Witness. I did.
By Mr. Kaine.
evening was this ?
Witness. I cannot exactly mention the time,
but it was pretty late in the evening.
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TESTIMONY OP JOHN J PATTERSON.
JOHN J PATTERSON being duly sworn testi
fies as follows:
By Mr. Wakefield. Do you know T. jeffer-
About what time. in the
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son Boyer, a member of tlie House of Repre
sentatives?
Witness. I do.
By Mr, Wakefield. How long have you
known him ?
Witness. I met him first during the session
of 1859.
By Mr. Wakefield. Did you, some
prior to the election of United States Senator,
ask Mr. Boyer to call at your room ?
Witness. No, sir, not at the first interview;
I arrived in Harrisburg on Thursday evening,
January Bth ; I had not seen him previous to
that since we parted at the session of '59 ; I
met Mr Boyer in the hall of the House on Fri
day morning and renewed our former acquain
tance, and had no conversation with lim on
the subject of United States Senator; I had
called on him at his hotel in the morning pre
vious to seeing him in the House and enquired
for him, and was told he was out; I did so be
cause I had heard that he bad professed a de
sire to vote fer General Cameron for United
States Senator, from Mr William Brob,et, and
because I knew Mr Boyer and wanted to as
certain if he really was in earnest ; I did so
of my own accord and at the suggestion or de
sire of no one; after I left the House I met
Mr Brobst as I went down the street, near the
Capitol gate, (near Omit's,) and told him I
wanted to see Mr Boyer and would see him
during the afternoon ; Mr Brobst then told
me Mr Boyer was going to Philadelphia, by
way of Reading, at noon or after dinner ; I
concluded to go down on the train and have a
talk with him ; Mr Brobst told me he was
going down and would not return until Mon
day ; I met General Cameron on Thursday
evenlhg in the poste - lEOe, after supper, by acci
dent; had a short conversation with him, du
ring which I asked him if he was a candidate
for United States Senator ; he replied he was
not ; we parted ; I come to Harrisburg of my
own accord and at the suggestion or request
of no one, and having been sink, had heard
nothing in regard to the Senatorship except
through the newspapers, as I reside fifty miles
from here in the country, in Juniata county;
the next morning (Friday) after I had seen Mr
Boyer in the House and had concluded to go
to Philadelphia, I met General Cameron at the
State Capital Bank and told him I had heard
Mr Boyer professed a desire to vote for him,
(Cameron,) that I had' gone to see him and had
only met him, and had had no conversation on
the subject; that I understood Mr Boyer was
going to Philadelphia in the afternoon train,
by Reading, and that I was going down and
would have a talk with him on the subject;
General Camerom then replied that Boyer did
profess a desire to vote for him, and he be
lieved he would if nodooaxed or soared ; Gen.
Cameron told me he would be obliged to me for
any service I could render him, but he had no
idea that any Democrat would be permitted to
vote against the nominee; I thus offered my
services out of Personal regard for General
Cameron and owing to my anxiety to secure
the election of a Republican United States
Senati.r ; I bad been a warm personal friend
of General Cameron for ten years ; General
Cameron and I then parted ; I met Mr Boyer
at the Reading depot and asked him if be was
going to Philadelphia; he replied he was only
going to Reading; I purchased a ticket for
Reading; Mr Boyer and I took a seat in the
front car, and shortly afterwards went into the
baggage room of the.NewYork.car to smoke;
Mr Boyer, of his , awn accord, commenced the
conversation in regard to Senator by saying
that he was anxious to see General Cameron
elected United States Senator, that he did not
like any of the candidates befere the Demo
cratic caucus, that Hughes was disloyal, Mr
Campbell was a Catholic and Mr Buckalew a
cold hearted, ungrateful son-of-a-bitch, and
that he would not vote for either; that he
would vote for Governor B!gler, but he was no
candidate; he expressed a great regard for
General Cameron as a statesman and a good
Pennsylvanian ; that a man could be sustained
in voting for him, as he had always been true to
the best interests of the State, no matter what
par4y he acted with; I then urged Mr Boyer
that no one who voted for General Cameron
would suffer in public estimation when he voted
against such men as he.had named ; Mr Boyer
said Mr Buckalew would be nominated by the
wriacus and he would not vote for him ; I asked
him if be really was in earnest, and if he had
the nerve to vote against the nominee in the
face of the mob which we all expected and
had been told to expect by the papers for
weeks past, would he present at the election of
Senator;. he replied it would he hard to do; I
said to Mr Boyer I wanted him to be frank and
not deceive me, as I sought this interview with*
him to ascertain if he really was only _talking
or had a serious notion of aiding to elect Gen.
Cameron, tbat I would not like to see General
Cameron be a candidate and be defeated ; Mr
Boyer then said he wanted to make something
out of his roeition as a member on the Senator
question, as this was his last chance, and that
it he got his desires accomplished the Clear
field Democracy might go to the devil; I then
asked Mr Boyer what he referred to, and he
replied that be wanted to make some money or
get a good office; I told ,Mr Boyer I had no
authority from General Cameron or any one
or him to offer him any mosey or any induce
' ment whatever to vote for him ; that I was no
gent of General Cameron and would not act
in such capacity for him or any one else; that
my only object was to learn from him if he
really wanted Cameron elected, but that I was
now satisfied he cared more for his own bene
fit than for G-neral Cameron'a success, and I
would advise General Cameron, after what he
had told me, not to trust to his promises ; Mr
Boyer then replied be could get money for vo
tiog for General Cameron, but did not say
from whom ; I told B I did not believe it,
and that if he voted for General Cameron ex
.
ring to get paid for it be would most cer
tainty be cheated, es I did not believe any one
had such authority to offer money to any one;
Mr Boyer tht n mentioned that he would like
to have a paymaetership in the regular army,
as he understood it was worth three thousand
dollars per year, and he also heard there were
two vacancies, and that be would like to have
one of them, as it would make him comforta
ble for lite ; I told Mr Bayer, whi e I wag anx
ious to secure the election of General Came
ron, I could not talk with him on the subject, of
money or any promise of offiee, and if he fixed
such con , itions to his supporting General
Cameron I would drop the subject; I did not
offer hinOtwenty thousand dollars or any sum
whatever, or any officio, but told him no one
could promise such an office, as there may be
no vacancy, and even if there was it might be
impoa-inle to hove him appointed to it; Mr
Boyer still insisted he w toted to aid G-urral
Cameron, and slit he would cheerfully absent
h meelf and offered to go to Buffalo, New Yot k,
amt said I might go wish him tt I wished and
doubted his slueeril ; I told him that was all
nonsense, that he could only aidkieneral Cam
eron by voting for him ; Mr Boyer again itiei4-
ted he was willing to do it if necessary, but he
wanted CI nerd C-ameron to etnnd by him and
be his ft lend ; I answers d him that he could
only toe keGen Cameron his friend by voting for
h im , as eying tiw-y would do hint no good; I
told him C4meiton's character forgr4titude to hie
friends was sufficient assurance that if be voted
for him and he was elected, and it was in his
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power to serve him, I had no doubt he would
do it, as I had always found him oheeillal in
serving his friends ; Mr Boyer expressed great
anxiety to have an interview with General
Cameron ; I told Mr Boyer it was of no nee
unless he was in earnest, as the General did
not want to be troubled with persons offering
services who could not carry them out—at
least I thought so ; Mr Boyer said that he
would return to Harrisburg on Saturday eve
ning, and I told him to go and see Gen, Cam
eron ; General Cameron was on the same trail
on which we were—he got in at Harrisburg
I told Mr Boyer I did not know whether Gen.
Cameron would return to-morrow (Saturday)
evening, but thought it likely—that I would
go and ask General Cameron when he would
return, and if he would agree to have an in
terview with Mr Boyer; I told Mr Boyer I
would stop at Reading and return home that
night, and would not come back to Harrisburg
before Monday evening; he (Mr Boyer) insta
ted that I should be present at the interview
between him and Cameron; I first objected CO
it, as I did not wish to be away from home so
long, but finally consented to return on Sature
day evening, if General Cameron would come
up that evening from Philadelphia, and was
willing to have an interview with Mr Boyer ;
I would have dropped the whole seject and
all further intercourse with Mr Boyer if he had
not insisted upon having an interview with
General Cameron, as I was satisfied Mr Boyer
would not vote for him, in spite of his asser
tions to the contrary ; I suggested to Mr Boyer
for the interview to take pleee at my room at
Herr's Hotel, to which he objected, as he said
it was too public a place and would excite sus
picion, and said he preferred a more private
place ; I named Mr Donald Cameron's house,
to which he agreed—all subject to the approval
and consent of General Cameron ; Mr Boyer
then went forward into the oar we first occu
pied ; I stopped in the car where I found Gen.
Cameron, and told him I wanted to see him,
and we took a seat together ; I told him I had
an interview with Mr Boyer, and was not sat
isfied with him, as he was unreliable, but that
he still insisted upon it that he wanted to vote
for him (Cameron) ; I told General Cameron
Mr Boyer had told me be could get money for
voting for him, but did not say from whom ;
General Cameron said he was lying—that no
one had any such authority—that if that was
what be was after, he would have nothing to
do with him ; I told the General what I told
Boyer in regard to "money or any inducement,
that be would not get anything, but after that
he still seemed anxious to vote for him, as he
said he wanted him to be his friend—that Mr
Boyer was very anxious for an interview with
him, and that I had proposed he (Boyer) should
go and see him (Cameron) to-morrow evening;
General Cameron replied that he would have
nothing to do with him, and that it was uncer
tain whether he would return on Saturday eve
ning ; I told General Cameron, while I still
doubted Boyer's sincerity, I thought it would
be well enough to have an interview if it was
convenient for them ; I told General Cameron
I would go home from -Reading to-night, and
return on Mouthy evening; he said he would
not see Boyer unless I was present, even if he
did return, and that he would not hurry him
self in coming home to have the interview;
then told him if he would certainly return on
Saturday evening, I would return the same
evening-from home, and be agreed to do it ; I
went forward to Mr Boyer and told him that '
General Cameron eared very little about hav
ing an interview, but finally had agreed to re
turn to Harrisburg-on Saturday evening ; he
appeared very glad, and urged me to be there
and meet with them ; I told him I bad so pro
mised General Cameron, and would try to do
so ; we parted at Reading, and I returned the
same night ; on Saturday evening I returned
to Harrisburg ; I met Mr Boyer at the depot,
anittisked him if General Cameron was on the
train ; he replied he did not know ; we soon
saw the General get out of the cars ; Mr Boyer
and I went direct to Mr D. Cameron's house ;
General Cameron entered a few minutes before
us; I told the General Mr Boyer was in the
entry, and we went up stairs ; Mr Boyer at
once commenced the conversation by telling
General Cameron he was very anxious to see
him succeed, and, after reflecting over it since
last evening, he had determined to vote for
him, and said, "General, you must stand by
me and be my friend, for I will be much abused
for voting against the nominee ;" General Cam
eron replied, "Boyer, if you vote for me, it
will make me Senator, and I will owe more to
you than any other man in the State, and you
shall never want a friend as long as I live, if
I can serve you ;" he said if elected he would
be in a position to serve his friends, unless you
Democrats break up this government by oppo
sing the war and embarrassing the administra
tion • he did not say the Southern Confederacy
would be recognized, and he be a great man in
consequence ; Mr Boyer swore he was in ear
nest; and he could rely upon fiim—that he was
not afraid of the mob, and would risk the con
sequences ; the General told him to think of it
until morning, and we would see how matters
stood ; General Cameron did not cffer him any
money or azy inducement whatever, nothing
being said on the subject; the interview was
very short ; Mr Boyer then left, and I re
mained with General Cameron a short time ;
we both considered Mr Boyer as too uncertain
n.r General Cameron to be a candidate at this
time; I saw nothing of Mr Boyer or General
Cameron until Monday afternoon following,
when I met Mr Boyer in the hall of the House,
and he said to me that he had called at my room
to see me; he appointed an interview at my
room at six o'clock p. m. ; Mr Boyer came to
my room (No. 53) at Herr's Hotel a short time
after the time appointed, and seemed very
much alarmed at the action of the Senate ; he
BO expressed himself; he told tue we need not be
afraid of him—that he had intended for two
months to vote for General Cameron, as he had
told me before—he had so promised General
Cameron, and he swore he would do so, and
said he wanted to see General Cameron and
again assure him that he was in earnest and
remove any doubt that he had of hie sincerity;
I vplicd to him I was opposed to soy election
of Senator at this time, and if my advice would
prevail there would be none, as the election
could only be held by the consent of the mob—
that no man could exercise his free right of
Toting in the presence of such a mob as 'this
—that no Democrat would dare vote against
the no ninee on that account—that I believed
personal violencessvould be used against any
one casting Furth a vote—that if it was not for
the mob we could easily elect Cameron; Mr
Boyer insisted that he did not. care for the mob,
and wanted me to tell General Cameron, or
give him an opportunity to do so, that be could
he relied on ; I replied that I would not tell
General Cameron so, and would take no re
sponsibility in the mance-that if I did, and
he failgd when it came to voting, I would be
censured by General Cameron and his friends;
Mr Boyer asked me to ge with him to see Gen.
Cameron after the Dereocrai le caucus; I told
him that I would wait for him at Mr Donald
C .no ron's house after the adjournment of the
Democratic caucus, and he should come there;
notating was said by me during this interview
of any money or any inducements ; I opposed
to Mr Buyer the idea of his voting for GeneKal.
Cameron at this time, and told Mr Boyer It