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BY:GEORog nR.GN ga
Panaylvan* Legishture
• SENATE.:_
WEDisapit",'Jarniary 6, 1864
I.)ie',Senate,utat 4. 21..
Tike . iparnal vfais.iaad, and approved.
• BILLS EVRODUCI.D.
JOHNSON. I read in my place a bill, en
titled-,"Au act prescribing the time and man
ner•of submitting to the people for their ap
proval and ratification or rejection the proposed
amendments to the Constitution. a
Mr. - STEIN. I rise to a question of order:
My - point' is this, that the Senate not being or-,
gainized, and no toles having been adopted, no
business'can be transacted other than that re
lating to organizltion. - •
11r. CON,NELL I would like to ask a gime
the'Senator from lidrthatupten—whose
fault it is-that no rules have been adopted.
- The.SFEAKEtt. -The question of order has
already been decided by the Chair at a foriner
session. It is not well taken. - • • •
Mr, STEIN: I appeal from the Chair's deci
- The SPEA.ICER.. It seems to the Chair that
au-appeal from the Speaker's decision having
previouily been taken, and the pre,sent gins
tion,being on the same subject, a second appeal
is not
The , above bill was then laid on'•the table.
iir.CONNELL. Lread in my:place a-bill enti-•
tied "An • act to -provide-for ;Elia payment tit
bonsties to volunteers froni.the State Of Pean-:
sylyarda.!' • .
Mr-. CLYMER. I object.to the reading of a'
till in place: by-any Senator,.arid. in thia;in
:stance by the Senator from Philadelphia, with
nut his having, first obtainerileaVe of the lien-
'ate. ask:tbe opinion of , the Speaker. *bather
a Senator can atttny time rend a bill in place
withouti Previous leave of the body., •
The SPEAKER. The Chair is of opinion that
the proper practice :would be to ask leave,.
Mr. CON-NELL. Well then, Mr; Speaker, I
- ask:leave.
•• Mr. CLYMER. On granting leave, I. call
the yeas and nays. • -
The SPEAKER. The question before
_the
flehatelsibis: The Senator from Philadelphia
(Hr. CONNILL) mks leave ef Abe Senate to-read
a hlltin•place at this time. Upcinthe queslion
of grabting leave, the Senalor from Bi3rkaltdri
Ci.vmael 0311 a •the yeas and nays.
gr. WILSON. • I would like- to knew'. what
rule of the Senats,lf we haVe any, reqhlres the .
• asking of leave to read in place.
The SPEAKER. The question - submitted. to
the Senate is as to the manner in:which it shall
proceed with its business. : ;
Mr. WILSON. 'Then I understand that we are
virtually adopting a tale. : -
• = The SPEAKER. The Senate , niay detetmlne
what particular Stage of its proceeding it will
entertain the reading of a bill orwhether thlit
reading shall be entertained at'any time.
- • ,Ifr. WILSON was 'understood - to Au that'
senators on the Other side hailevinbed 4 &pi,
iiidob to dispense with all: rules . of government
and desired to .do-business in •.tt promieCuorle
WO. • For himself •he was 'dander' 'to adopt
either course ao'tbat.but one be pursued at 4
- • , : '
The call
for:the yeas and nayiwas seconded
`bp-Mir. STEW and resulted as follows':
• • Yaas---Afesns. Chauspneysi Connell, Ditulak t
Hrlhani•-Hoge l Householder, gold
son, Lowry, voilikatese,. Nicholic;Hidgivat;s
-Wilson, Worthington and Penney,
Hieale,r 7 -16. • . • - •••.' •
- Nays- 4 Missys. - - Beaidarle, - • Bucher, Cly iner;
Dojievlin;-Glalis,' - -Hopkbis, Kinsey,' Latiaberteu,
z , Liatbioll'lgheity • 'Montgomery, Reilly,:Smlth,
, ••
Stark Stein and Walifce--16:
So the motion WAS - not Agreed-to.
.PROOIZATI:ONEIPSAtIia OF ; THE 'SWATS
Mr. COWRY ogaredi the followipg resole
Wages/4, The Union men In --mitt.
Pennsylvania-were- in 'clear majority AMU: one
of theirtminher, Major EarrY White, Senator
from Indiana, wee. captured by our common ,
enemy; therefore,.
Resobied; ThakthapatflOtfam Of Harry , White
shill not betaken advantige of to - prevent the
complete • prganjiation of, this body;,. but Out
the Apeaker,elected at the close of the session
.of 4868 bp recognized as the duly elected
S - peaker oflhe Senate until Such time as Sena
tor White shall be released fipm captivity or ; a
successor be elected from his Senatorial distfiat,;
at-which-time it would be proper for the pre
sent Speaker to resign and that new election
for Speaker be held then- •
'On the question, Will the Senate:proceed to
,n second‘readimg of the resolittion '
The yeas and nays were required by
iy,CZI,LA.OE and Mr. DONOVAN, and were ps
&How f • viz.: ' , • •
ir m i-410sErs,. Chappneys, Connell, Don
-Isp, -Fleming; Graham , : Rege,,l,Honspholder,,
Johnson, hreandiess, Bhigr
way, Turrell, Wilson, Worthington and .N 47
ney, Speaker-16.
pr i NAyg —Messrs. Beardeles, Becher, Clymer,
,
,i,oluivan, Matz, Hopkins,.-li;xiihertod;
I. l o:ol,4l.'Sherryi Montgomery, Reilly, Smith,
Starki Stein and . ,
So-we question was determined in the nega- •
tive. I
ORGAIUZAIION
Mr. CO,NNELL offered the followhig iegolu
tion :
&saved, .That . the Senate having, repeatlidly
decided by ballot not to change•the, speaker,
it will now proceed with.the ordinary bushman
of the tosaton.
On the question,
Will the Senate" proceed to a second reading
of the resolution ?
The yeas and nays were required by Mr.
DONOVAN and Mr. CONNELL , and were as
iz , _
ynks—Medsrs. Champneys, Connell, Dunlap,
Fl em ing, graham, Hoge, Householder, John
son, LOWg,,WPalidless, Nichols, Ridgway,
Turrell, . Worthington and Penney,
Speaker —l6 ._ _
Nets —Messrs. Beat : Agee, Bucher, Clymer,
Matz, Hoidaiik Kinsey, Latobeiton,
Latta, M'Sberry, Montgomery, , Reilly, Smith,
Stark, Stein and Walla 3 j==l.6.
do the questioirWas 'determined In the nega
tive. . • :1
Wei. D. B. GRANT AND OHMS
lir. LOWGir offered the following resolution:
Jtesolved by the xgenate, That the thanks of the
loyal people of Pennsytianiartre due and are
hereby tendered to Gen. U. S. Grant _and thit
officers and soldiers seryine under h ire; for tim
series of gallant services and glor ious vierories
resulting in the liberation of the fel thful Union'
people of East Tennessee from a military dee=
potion more tall Fig than - ever Twas that of
Great Britain.. . , ,-
On the;quistion,
Will the &mate - proceed to a sec - find:reading
of tbe roolhtion ? • ' •
The yeas andnays were required by Mr
DONOVAN and Mr. WALLACE, and were as
follow, viz: '
Yasa---Messra. Champneys;;Connell, Dunlap,
.Ffefiling; Graham; Hoge, Househblder, John
son, Lowry; M'Candless, Nichols, -Ridgway,
Tarrelly - Wiliam, Worthington - and Penney,.
Speacef-16. - '
Nen—Messrs. Beartislee, Budber, Clymer,
Denowin, Glatz', Hopking, Kinsey, Lamberton,
Latta, liel'Sh'erry, Montgomery, Reilly, Smith,
Static, Stein. and Wallaae-16.
S'd theAuestion was determineti in the liege-
Daring the dall, = •
Mr. CLYMER said If the Senator from
Ede will offer *hat resolution at _the proper
time, hereafter, I certainly shall vote for it
most heartily and gladly. Bat pow, eir, as I
conceive this Senate to be 'situated I cannot vote
for it,, and therefore I vote "no." '
Mr. LO WRY said : The Senator . from Ede
will record his tote for that resolution without
enfering"a protest." " •
Mr:SMITHiald : For the realms given by
the Senator'from Barks (air. CLYMEL,) I vote
BEILLY. rmove that we proceed to
another ballot fox' Speaker.
'The motion` was' Agreed to and a ninth ballot
Was taken with the folloWing result : ' ;
Meta's. Champneys; 'Clymer; Conrielli-*Dan
lap, Grahain, Hoge,' Householder,
Johnteen,.Urwry,leCalidless,NichbleißidgWay„
Udell, :neon arid W.orthington-16, voted
- for'John P. Penney. • .
Beardslee, pucher, DOnoVan,
Hopkins, Kinsey, Lattberton, Latta, teSherry,
'Montgomery,'Reilly,Smitb, Stark, Stein, Wal
lace and Penneyi Speaker-16 ; voted for Hiss
tar Clymer. ' .
Th‘d 'SPEAKER, announced the. Clerks agreed
in their 'tallies and that no Senator 'tidying
received a 'majority' of all the votes cast, there
*as no election:
Mr. STEIN. Mr. Speaker, I move that we
proceed to a - tenth ballot
The motion Was agreed, and a tenth ballot
resulted ei& folkiWe: ' •
Messrs.:Chain' pneys, Clymer,connell,Dutilap,
Fleming,'Grahani,Hoge,Househohler, Johnson,
Lowry; TeCandless, Nichols;Ridgway, Turrell,
Wilson and Worthingtol6, voted for John - P.
- - n- •
Penney: •
Messrs. Beardslee, Bucher, Donovan, Gtat'.,
Hopkins; 'Rinse*, Lamberton, Latta, M'Sherryi,
Montgomery; Reilly; Smith, Stark, Stein, -Ws I
lace and Penney, Speaker-16, voted•fer Holster
Clymer. - • ,
The SPE4RIIII3. announcEd, the result.
Mr, CLYMER. obtainsti leave of the Senate
make astatement, as follows : - '
It is perfectly evident, sir, that as this Senate
is now constituted it *lll he inaposeible to effect
anirganization. .WeLare Ilkely.to remain here,
. - it'this rate till the dog days. I'hat is neither
desirable on the score of personal convenience
ar public' No. .man-can. be more mailbag
.than the. Senators with - whoini have the honer.
'to act-politically in bringing this state of affairs;
to some amicable conclusioh. We are prepared -
therefore, sir; to say to thhi,Senate deliberately
that for the purpbse of effecting - an organize-
Lion. and in order that the legislation - Of the
-State may proceed, we are wi ling ' to tender
to'the, other elde.of this chanabet-az a, coinPra
haw 'of .the-, =Ol ties, exhiting between, us, this
.arrangement:. _That the* shall select ; Brit, any,
efftee - W - Ithin the gift of this Senate, - We *b se
leCt'the 'emend, they the:third - And so , on t'othe
.end of the list. We make this - offer,trtistiogthat
Its 'fairness will ,coramehd it 'to the podgthept
of this Senate, as it certainly 7111 commend it-
self to.thejraignient Of the people of Able State..
We are here 16 to 16: on this floor. It no
fault of this ,side Of, the Chamber that such! a.
State of affairamists. It is true that one Sen.
ator is absent. It is true, if we are to believe
the organs of the Republican party, if we are.
Aohelieve Senators on this lioor and - officers ;of
this Senate, that IMajor Wurrit is no_longer
member of this body,' having. resigned 'weeks
ego. If these are true, that gentle
' man is no longer a , beinber of the Senate rot.
Pennsylvitnia.:And I hold that it-was-the duty
of these who'controlled the affaint i of this Sen
ate, who were 'its officers, to have ordered an
election, and to have had his successor here;
and if we effect no Organization under present
circumstances the responsibility must lie upon
th Soriite of
INEEI
OROANIZA"FION,,EIPILAKFR OF THE ONATIB.
•
Now, sir, for the sake of arriving at a juot
and amicable :arrangement, we have offered ihe
proposition I have:stated, I trust that for tike
•sake Of the interests of the State, the propeii
tion accepted.
'hit..bllollolS.- Speaker; I move that
we-proceed town eleventh ballot for Speaker.
The !notion was agreed' tb, and a fiirther tint
lot resulted'as follows
• ;Messrs. Champneyis, Clymer, tbnnell, Don
lap; _Fleming, ',Graham, :Hoge,' Householder,
Johnson, Lowry; .}f'Candleso,::Nichole, Ritig
way,Tarrell,Wiloonand Worthington---16,iroted
forjohn P. - Penney.
Beardslee ' Thicher, Donovan, Glitz,
Hopkinsi - -Zinsey,Lamberton, Latta, li'Sherry,
Iliontg'omety; Reilly,-Smith, Stark; Stein, Wal
lace atl•Penniiy,4s)maktr-16, voted for Weider
Clymer. • ,
Mr. LOVR . I rise forlhe purpose of saying
'to 'the Senate that Tim entirely urui*are that
'the iesignatkin Of Senator ,IVarrS 'la here:
kno*.nothing of the kind ; I have never' seen
anithng i which would lead me to believe any
thing of the, kind.. T would mk the Speaker if
'helms.any kno*ledge'bn the :subject.
The SPEAKER. In reply to , tb.elyestiOn of
the Seniniifroaf Ede, the . Speaker wiiuld'stafer
that he beitot theslighteet knowledge of ttie
resignation of the Senator from Indiana. He
hart certainly received no official knowledge on
that matter ; nor does he individually suppose
that the resignation has been tendered. •
Mr. ROWItY. ,For my own part, Mr. Speaker,
do 'riot thiiik , tbat any person has_the resigna
tion of Senator VirsFrie. tnd ,I would inform,
the Senator 'from barks that if .he is really de
sirOne of 'organizing this body and' proCeeding
to business he can by that means have KOMI'
' Wahl back here, as I believe, within them*
ten days. It is well known to the Senate and
te'the people:of penimylvanja Mkt some time
ago a Major froM the rebel army by the name
of Tones applied to tha authorities at Washing
ton saying teat he could *ale the laicise of
HARRY Wane in exchange 'Mr hiniself. The
authorities, as I am informed and beliefe; took'
his parole and sent him to Richmond. ' lie went
:there and was informed by the rebel authorities
Viathe, Major Jones, had - no vote in thefenate
'Ol oeruM3ivania, but that Major Wiffil, had,.
that,and* _the Tinton party of Pennsylvania
would lie disofgmdaEd in case Ma]ot WaiTs WO'
retained. Consequently Mr, 'Scums was sent
back to Washington. --. •
Now, s ena taralvinnot blink, this question.
leff. Davis uudelitsimisthernance of
ding ng Senator tera,inlirisoti, cePljninghbri:so
perhipti '6O eta deirad'to
HARRISBURG, PA., THURSDAY EVENING, , 7, 1864.
tender his resignation he could not write it,
there is Senator Warns in prison ; and every
vote given here by the Senator from Berko ie
given to keep him where he is, because HARRY
Warts would have been borne long ago had it
not been that Jeff Davis considered his release
of importance to the cause of the Union. .1
Mr. DONOVAN. I rise to ask the Senator-a
question. Does the Senator from Erie wish to
be understood as saying that the authorities at
Richmond look upon the Republican' party-of
Pennsylvania as the Union , party? • •
Mr. LOWRY. - There is no Union party ex=
cept the Republican party and no -Republican
party except the Union party in this country.
Ido not desire to get into-an angry discussion
at this time, And I will not suffer myself to.-.be
led away from the question before us. ' '
I trust that the gentlemen on the-other side
of this House will see the necessity - of not pur
suing this kind of constrict further. I think IC
is unbecoming -thedignity;of a Senator to ;' , get
up , here and make • bargains; for trading
off this officer for that Officer. That isbeneatb
the dignity of the Senate and unbecoming the
Senator from Berks. The intention of the'peco- 1
ple of Pennsylvania to &eons in 'a majority,
here could not have been expressed In strorigeX
language than it:has been. They have placredl
us in a majority, but the fortunes- of:war have
taken one of our'number from us` and left ug
hers powerless, allowing-the other side to delaY
the business of legislation as long as they ski
proper. I appeal to them as pitriotic men tei
allow us to - proceed' to business'; the counto
requires that we should not-play the schoolboy
here any. longer, brathat we should orgarrizei
The people of the'Statel have spoken on till
14 1
quegion, and it is dangerous to attempt'
•thwart their degree. I did not think when'
submitind a resolution this enosnlog that you,
air, would be acknowledged by the other side
in your position as Speaker and that we would
proceed with the business until such time •ssir
EGRET Wrens should return. He will retiarni I
have no doubt; as metres Jeff-Davki hears that
• 1
we have organized' without him:. • ,
• Mr. CLYfrigß. Mr. Speaker, this is a prod*
less discussion, and if It must be entered into
at all it should be with entire good• feeling on
both sides of this' Chamber: I trust that T
have hitherto said nothing that would wound
the feelings of any'Senator, and-I intend to be
equally courteous hereeter. As to the rest*
nation of Major Winn, niy only authoritYlw
the authenticity of the rumor is the fact that I
have seen statements to that rftect published
in leading . .. Republican newsipapere of this
State—in a paper edited by a former distin
guished member of thisliedy, Col. MUM* ha
a paper edited by the former Clerk of 'the
House, Mr. Rauch, in a paper edited by the
former printer of the Legislature, Mr. Bergner:
I know that we'Democrats are not In the habit'
of considering thoae sources 11£1 very good an
thority, lam ju s t interlined - by the Senator
from Washington (h Horg;resj . that the Rer; "
publican paper published in hie ovin home
Indiana asserted the 'fent that the radon ir '
was in thelninda of Mijor Wurri's -father: II
have been assured by persons now upon this
floor that this. was afoot ;. and not only did
they know the fact generally, but they entered
into,particulars as to the mode in which -the
resignation was received. So that if it -wag a
Mattes forta jury to , deterrnine, Whether- the
redignatiOn was or was not .sent, I think -that'
wouldhave little di(licidtylit diaposini of it.)
I heave that ' matter there;slr:- If the gaiiaL
tor'i Melioration id here,'l holcithat I am right
In my position,: that bag no longer a right
`a seat in this body and- that it was the dertyr,of
the Sneiker r of 'the fienatelpissrie' his warrant
and`supPlY the valiancy:thug created. •"' ' t -
The Senator from Erie says Senate
in organized now, Major. Winn Will be hdre
: f, 'ln a certain time. I say then to the'San
'• fr rs who are hie friends'Politipally bre all be
big his friends 'perionallyX that it is-it creel
act in them not to 'organize this - Sehate'istien
'they could `thereby, bring Senator Warm here.
They have the power as well as us; therefore
you, Senators, are his jailors. lief is the Sen.;
ator from Erie correct ;in his aagortion l•ltajor
'Wfirri's• fate is the fate of rterilheusand other
brave men who are now languishing .in the
prisons of the South ; for none have been ex
changed since Milioy's "skedaddle'frona."Win•
cheater. I honqr Major Warra that he is a
prisoner there instead of hiring run away like 1
a whipped hound. It is to his credit and to
his manhood that ha is a prisoner there. HO'
falls under the general rule' with respect ' to
prieciners of war,
and ;I doubt'whether •any es),
rim op our part would make him an exception
to the general rule. Perhaps the Senator from
Ede belleverrthat an organization would • effect
the release of the•SenatorfroM Indiana. If be
belleves''that, let him;` vote to orgenUe the
Senate end have his friend within ten
• •
days._, _ -
Mr.LOWRYade a remark whiCh was not
distinctlY beard at the Reporters' desk. .
Mr. CLYMER. 'Then I day, air, there are
Senators here who hold their mate against the
will of the district they rePrerient., If we are
going to have a new election lot a
gentleman
resign on your'stde,,and you may point . tO any
gentleman on our side whom you'deshe to gQ
back to . the •peoiile,.• and: , wben that special
election is over we Will be ready' nd. Willing to f
'come; into the Bets here with you • and perfect
our organization. You max, to•dak, pffint out
any Senator on this aide of ' the House and he
wittresign—l pledge, myself that he will re
sign. ' ' •
Now, sir, , here We Stand, here we must
itand, here we will stand; wepan do nothing
but our duty, and that we will discbarge ha all
fairness.:'. I say, sir, that a fairer, proposition
than that,made by, this itae ofthe chambeiwas
nererlmaile between peers ffir,the Settlement of
a controversy ; and I do trust and implore that
gentlemen over there will fully,consider our
propmition. . .
, Mr. M'CANPIiESS ohtained leave to make a
Statement as fellows: . • , • . ,
At this time, Mr. Speaker, I am prone to be
lieve that time Is of ,little consequence. The
Senators on the other Side of this floor have
taken the reeponsibility, in opposition to the
willof a majority of the,people of Pennsylva
nia, to hold out against an organization
body ; and with those gentlemen relate the se
sponaibliity. Mr..E.Prmaer,
.they pay to us that
'there will be' no organization here until the
dpg daye. We, say to ,the gentlemen on the
other side that in the providence of •God there
yriil he U 411., organization . here until' 'Gabriel
Win hit last trump;unless the Minority yield,
end that organization be in accordance with
'the will of the majority as ezpressed at the'
polls at the last October election .
, We have a
right to thisorganliatton. Their - 1)00e of Pain
.,
Sylvania - hare" said to the "IlepubliOni ilartyi
... ..you are api guaidianki of -our intereste; and to
you alone we `r commit Gaeta." 'Would we
not ba,raqaant tfrialir ilia** here , '
is'''".k,i.d AS
OUT constitute en denoun ce Ui; V.,we ! 0 0-
TO I O B 4 and bartan j ad .ars3' an; rights at 04
time ', - . -
_, ,"'
' The fortunes' of war' have thrown fil i litb.o
,
hands .ot•the. Jeff. Davie- government one af
the ,Senators -ein this ; door !: _When. ourowu
State was assailed and. , about .to he low_
dtd by the rebel-horde, the bold and strong
,aim of our friend, Major Waits, who holds a
seat and is one of our peers on this flooroias
the -first ; away down there at Wihcheater, to be
lift ellravel end beldly:as that ,of a: -soldier.
and I'r'an against themomMon enemy.. Being
eferpoWerattly - a superior! force of ;the rebel
hiirde t aiiiiitufaskiimptisoner r add: as now con-
Maid ;et-Richmond. is eufferhig all. the
distress aliddiscbm - ftrit Incident in
a • Sodthitm dangeon.phe fedi. the want of
everything •thablit - memory to make him milli
fortable ; he: has for being lost his
righeto's seat ore this floor and;yet the gen`,
tlenien- the. other side say to °us organize.
Why, the pedpli df.Pannayltrimlic do hot *Ant
an organisation as long as we-stand e tie - here.
We can stand up before the people of Pennsyl
vania and-say, to them boldly . 1 we will not or
ganise,.We dare not organise against yolinex
prets-instrtletkins andlhat people will say
to ns; 4 ! well done, that is the instrnatiohlwe
gave- you arid you-would be recreant to the
trust repo sed in you, if you yielded Or compr
mised with those whom the verdict of theipee
pie has. stamped,* unlit- to mahage. their
We are f- organ:bed,. sir. - • This
ah organized. bodj , ;IW - where a •Speaker,. We
:have a ..corps '..iitleotheers - and .me =perfectly.
kompetmtto go.bwirith•bimideSs., , the.gen-I
lienieriOn.:the other aide of; thedlocirmish tp go'
Ohivith the tegular , busineeitof the Senate they;
are perfectly:titliberty4o do so:• But no ; they
want a shake of the organliation ; theywould
begin at the head and give one office.reaerVa
One oftice-fca theinselves, aid . sa.on. We say;
.6o you,.gentlemen, you will .nat ono; we will
'stand here, if need be, forager; In defence of
ottrr-righfe, as instructed by the people of. PeElllj,
itLvente. The proposition • is very meth lilmi
thit Of • his Sitanic Majesty wherrhe offeredons
-Silvio& all the kingdoms of the-earth and did
riot` own , an aim.- They have. no
ahaib in.thls orgenieition ; Bence we. snip• to
7011; gentlemen; we will stand -here asWe
tintil Major Whirs or his successor le •here; '41 1 4
then we will be ready to go on_ with business:
Until that time I suppose the wheels of:legisi
lotion are 'etopixxl,'beceese on, all matters:at
Public interest sixteen gentlemen will vote
against ha, aS they •have done up to the present
We - stand before the people as an organi
lised - -,toody;With a Speaker in :the Chair, and. a
venal of officers ready and waling to perform
dutioe: If you, gentlemen: on the other
wientlegislation, all you have -, to do is to
offer your bills and vote upon them, and legls
kitten will Move on as it has ordinarily. beret
lefore. ,- - If you do- not Went leglelation, that
here 'we stand until thej - deg,-.days; or until
doomsday,-it7ifejor WHITI-Or his successor does
.notar)Oesiii 7 : 4- K - • .
jar. TURRELL. I desare to add - one remark
to-the statement made_ 11414 Senator frdm
rle (Me. - - LeivwX;) in relation.-th the effort
Mid* feepreotteingthetele.
I Make the :*stateirioni:ripon--the! highest, ail'
meet-reliable AnthotitY!. Very . soots-a' ter ri 43 ry a
Wider:Mon the Secretary of= War- took-m'
sures to effect the release of Major -.W6iltirde
siring his attendant*_ withess upon the
r I •- -
When "dur Oommissitmer Ucauttlutdosted - thit
fact •to the reter-lOcbaxelsidower ' gold; whiit
reply dld l he niiitate% The rebel comtelaskitter,
pat twee" Wiry signitioibtly;
nd: remarked ::-.*•" Yee, you "Want
maoli ibraiWitnese 'to testify at Hanisbutg.!
This shows that the enemy had received
information thus carly'df the-palm occhpk4
by afajor Wars ` Sir' s "who was it that at4hit
early day'eCleinithicated 'Bubb infotnuitioi to
tae Tel* 'afigiotitleh ?(Tertidely be liebubli-
Can or Union' matt. - I iettitii it to the country
to' judge ; but nicest- certainly= It will not he.
charged that any iteptiblictul or , Upiou man'
trritounitted inch ' ": I
I wish to'call attentioritOlinether matter in
•reply to the prOpOsition wOlph is submitted
hexe . by the Benet& from Berks. - adverto
Osteiday'to the' contest which took' :owe , pi
the Benaleln 1856 ; and I wish to. oentrasb
bele, upon theo , eard; th e position of our
at thattithe irith th e-ion now taken by
hui. friends on"the otlfer-alde of the chamber. -
'Previou's to - that session a Denies:gratin - nu - sillier
of the. Senate 3,Mr. Foullubd , of Philadelphia,)
*eased. Another menthet (Mr: BOaka
lew; the :pr esent United , States - Seue*;) . - - :Was
absentas . a . beirer dispatches. He was'Aaily
expected.. The *owl, upon which he wad a
passenger Mailed to=arrivei and-his 40116 left'
the Repub lican' paitY in the '' ni
-tijority.'
What: was' our course then? Dld 'we
, .
take a dvantage of the oircumstineosand take
possession 'Of the' deiganizsticin, of Mitolt:Q01"
friends had thuir,:iiithe providence` of Giid, been
deprived ? No, sir. Dar after day, two main
bars of the Republican pit; voted in each a
way es not to give a Majorlty to 'the candidate
of the . Deniocraildrarty, or hie .Coniputitor:—
At long - WU:4e tieo triettbeof (if .1 recollect
aright, their 'names were George Deride,' of Ai
legherit.a4 Mr. Eli K. Price; , of PhiladelPhia
—honorable men, as every one kriciwt 'Who is
acquainted With the record, and their'-'eetiliza
on thit occasion pio - ifed - it)-those gentlititen
said, it would not be honorable in us to take
advantage of the accidental situation of. affeitti
by which' oidtriends on the other - side . of the
chamber are'dePrived of a niiijiiity;". and so
Mr. Darele voted for the Detarrraticnom.Moe,
Mr. Rieder._ I suppose my frkinCfioiii:kti
la a namesake Uhls. Repitifilcin party of
that day held at a majority in this
body ; and if they 11 1 4 pliceento..take advan
tage Of their position,' could hair° elected a
Republican Speaker. Mark the sxmtreat:!- - -•
Here the contest is apon a tie simply. Ther4 we
had clearly one majority, whith was sufficient
to, give us the,`Mgeization ; but we' declined,
like men, tiro' take advantage of it. flirt this la
not all, sir. We conceded to them; as Welton - -
orably should, under those bircuDistaile4 a
large share of the subbrdimittioffices witblu the
gift of the Satiate. The.iiroord will substantf
ate my statement. Noir, sir; I merely desire
to ball the attention of the Senate to this fact,
in connection with the proposition which is
made to here'IIPSV. Oni may, ten . -
L itder it if they choose, and the ' publlc can hake
the henetlt of it.
Mr.'eL7ll:ft. I ask leaie to mike itate-
Ment in order to correct some erroralitO - Whieb
the Senator from Susquehanna fallen—:rin
wittingly fallen, I have no doutit.
When the Senate met in 1855 it was com
posed of but thlity-one Members; Ittri Foulk
,rod, of Philadelphia, being dead, , .Mr?
B.
Bnckalew,,of Columbia, being ol4 on this
pion. Ryon D. Hamlin was the, Speaker elect
oft preceding The ' absence of Mr.
BrOkaluarand thedchth of Mr, FOiilhat put t
likk*P4bllaut.iiirty of that darMitillioth-
tug was termed that y'ettFrtii, the
411 9° 01 Y. " 1 3 44#0 14 41.77i - however,fart the ßepublican may, at :the at
that Tearl.4-ArM.M9.l3l* *Cit thilOeiyite;
qegrge Patillee, l oo. wag. Pfr,‘Okfl'oitrrit rOt,,
honored pretieciarsont, barLhein-.. the-candidate.
of !the•Old Rine Whig. party for. the ace of
Canal-Commissioner. The Old Line Whig party
that year wentanto Snow piothingism and.ze
rased to.support:Mr..Darsie, because there Was
lt,;,'W - Hrelatolistlat he, as born in Scotland. Mr.
therefore Ainefttrad: to. riciftwith :the
party, after' ifiiiid 6 alaingerf ifs 'prAlciplea and
its name, for that yeer.
• In further reidYtti9tbeSenator.from'attr'que=
ilixona s . l may state • that on the. twenty:fonrth
ballot, Mr. Price voted for Mr. , Skinner) wh
was the Republican candidate aftevMr. Hen
dricks of the coAn6,yikPolanylklll4ll4 &topped.,
!But, sir, this tballoilisg• oontlaualifor , thany
days, Mr. Darsle.rebasing tb act with his forriati
colleagues. Alithi#ol , Mrs Backalew!•airitt'd
in the city of ttimelYork :said:iinstruitlyTtele;-
graphed that he would be here - iiiithe following
day; and it was merely that faotyrenderieg the
organization inevitable pext day; that iiidirdeal
George Darshi-b3 vote for kis friend r altlbitigh
his oppenent in politics, Wm. M. Hiester, of
the county - of Barks, So , that , the Republican
party stood out iintirElielnet Were was
no merit in their teptintilurcesat that hour. - The
Ming was ingintabte an'Oriald • have oltarred
within twenty lout 2fireata.- -- Mr. l bande chose
to elect Mr. Bleateritietetici of Mr. - Hardin,
who would have beett'idhcted - the next:de - Y. - Is
there any particular merit trilhat 1' None in
the world. The other aide would have carried
their poidt if they had lad- the power; and
they evinced their determination in that
respect by some ,thirty-sight laillota. They
would have okitiiitted balloting if' they had
had any hope of success. Mr. - Estee; on the
Atordzation of the committees of that Senate,
yraaiipfkidia r tr.d, by-Mr. "Hester chairman of the
principal ceminitters of this body; %el was made
chairman of the committee scar,Fibance, and
acted during that4tiolt+"leriaion'es; iitjeastot
neutral between the two partistron',thig ftaor.'
Mr. NICHOLS inquired Whetlibrlhe arrival
of Mr. Backalew , did not male a' -tie in th.
Renate, and Watt answercd by Mr: CLYMER 'in
the affiniatfire,
Mr. CLYMER. I will make another state
ment which has been,suggested to Me' by. 'on;
of my colleagues. 'lt is this, - t h at lir. 'Pd.:
was not elected as a Whig. He Zeit the rtgu
tar Whig candidate In tile city 'of . Pitiladelp •
and was elected by Democratic votes. '
Mr. 'DIBRELL. Everybody-tbkt' knows El
K. Price knows that he was an old ltue. - Whig:
SaviltßAlSmuiToits; He did not itun* Rev
gothli4.
- Mr. .TEIttRELL. The Senator from Bark
maybe twascribing to Mr.
,Dartde th
motive of his nation which he hite.litatigd;',Un
lam 'satisfied that he is correctStin
ner WERfla candidate and was not a Know Noth
log, so that Mr. Wrote's objeethm - cbtdd no
have been the one that .the.Benator,soneate.
Mr. CHAMPNEractatedltisinabilllytioxinl
anything to'the intelligence of. tlieilienate3lo
the question befere,ahn_body.".and ~thseefor
aoialear..bist. with.tho4llizabbh.-*
of following In .the path Of those who
pteoeded 6imu . . , .
If* ccintinued. -
Nbifildr;lwhat is the grekt (Dutton mileit
'ed befOrethis bcidr? itimahether we hatel
. - iverninent In Pennakivania or not--wheth•
the Constitution of 1790 and the Constitutlo
of .1808, contain the elementstof theirtuft d:
ktimotion; •Theniffirmativeof; that ilositker w
•thel doictrlnelsirctiflthedgUil admit:dist/nth:a
itashington;.dverrullng, the 'manifest opirlio
of the great men who formed the Conalitati.
of the. tin' tedBtatea,foivery the pnrpoitaoapr
Meting the integiity Of the Government,fo •
irerytelilatee !Otto:m*l4 are aufkluesdogme • •
Hod: The diecotaiy Cfaminedebydtheiste Chi
Habmitive of' oatiou;'and• made for•the fir
time in , the &Wolf Aftthe_GovemoiMit,
we lad:teally uo Boverntheita, that there w
ao power is the. ooustitritioti to inure the et
cation of -the laws; and thi3nifdre_ he wilful
forgot, or wilfully peryarted, I& oath of? • ,;,.
He said the.t he was sworn to flee that .the:le
were faithfully executed. .That was - nortl
Oath adminittered to t h e gnat PFecutivevf t
nation, under the: Constitution of the Vat .
Slated: To: protect, .defend, arta support ; , :
Constitution of -the, Untied Stet*" end to
that,the laws mere, .extnuteC. was only ono
many incidents of the llteeptive power. Wh I
Its the., , CaseSew,l4 Pe nn sylvania I Wihy,, si r, 1
heard it rumored , by a very disibilubgnd i -
1 tleman who occupied a . high position in t is
State, 4- that thhsvary moment
.theLSenette ! . t
there would be ..an end, to sit organics .
What wouldf be the:result cof that : doctrine f . t
is nothing-Acre than oarrying : out the lode e
of the late Adminiztration l rt. reference. ter e
Constitntionof the:United - States. It is virt ue, y
promulgating the huresy,that the donstili
• r
contains within itself the elemenM of. 'its - to
destruction. New, what is specified in 4
of ;ail; kind .by New
' Constlintion, of •re
1
..._ .
Sylvania? The - Speaker lives periiettn4
during his term of — erne& , Why
.400 -
live perpetiallY, *r. Speaker?. Beisfete,
the Governor dies, as was
,said by the -'Swint
fromßrie and Suequehanna; and _by the' $ e
tor from Butler,
r unless their is a Speaker of
&n,te to;fill,the,vactney In the finfertikia 1
the 4overriment „of-the State isst 0 end.:
1 blithe eensideration 0f,,-this i i iieificiii: we, re
lektii belleeh; frail Put 4:Klaition itteinned
the gentlemen on the other AA tinittheyb ve
a farther object in view., Why, sir; the
.. u-
Oration - cif the' Governor depends spod e
factor the Speaker of ,tire Senate ''.(kAng a per-'
petnal o ffi cer. ' - . , -' ' '"-.'
I not want to refer at leiith:to . she
_ been .
PF.N1 3 0 11 4 whini.):bave ` already n. adver - ,ed
to, and Ifasay:bkpauloned h casual refereptd
them, i: The that ter which . reference *atii* a;
that of '1856, was' - a precedent Orcollitesy - net
c
magnanimity ; and the Senator frbia-Beiks as
mistaken the-position of Mr. Datubinpart that
P le gt im t: beblnille, str, - Mpda- - loOkiplyist the ,
'JOOIIIII yottwill-find'Hessrs. Orabb;Partde,Ste.,
voting for' medelilnier: That:Mai after the
. 26th ballot, aid_ it *as 'On the - plif:- - votel for
Speak& thatlte.llarsie Wig and midi kiftate
inikitoie Will appear by the Legislative acenld;
to the 'tired' thittieally: and ti WOW) cithei side
Of the House, if all theinembers were present,
were;, entitled to the iergilliiirstioe. - dlow much
stronger Is 'one own case thitftlinsi•Mhen:onee
of our Senators engaged iii this glciriciusstrw
gle for his country,and'foirtlielifeletthe - Grden,
and the existence of feeeliistitntionit'he Confined
in' alciathsorne diingehit ! ''. :' " ' '
From the information that has reached -us
concerning the condition of affairs inilie turd
tory of the rebellionwe' are - chnitrtdinsiti be
!hive Iliat a' ' there :revbithir and r opprem lire
tyianny thatribaf . 'hf tile rebld ugdtbinteent
dog not exist iii thet-%itated` - 4orkifil IWe
have learned that our fellow citizens Whack the
fortune of irar-has placed htihwhesidi 0 tie
enemy; are ilpbr the vette" "ort . eattratitur; i and
ftuiplifilWeildebeieht- , briitilily-tfrrtlfefik pris
driers- the piiithf the viemylirlitizfiudiatte
'rrieditting. -1 1 %It . trekttithflolcßgAiiiiral thin
captivity . andtsuinge oft Lti. -. 436l.oleitydrYr
Ithote).OhsCiftts bninglitto fEY stacwPilfq vfoitf
-f"1 tv. , - • 1-i , trrq --_ rtlst-in - --Az
lIMBMa
PRICE TWO :GENTS.
he eon of a distinguished gentleman in POl
pphls' well known to the Speaker and mem
=of this body. While in the hands of the
rebels they treated him like a dog, giving.hlm
rot even a bliumketi,and,ppon reaching hame In
a weateand emaciated condition, his recovery
!WAR fcrAutlLY weeks extremely doubtful.
_ Now, sir, if there 'could be any cave that
wOitTd appeal 'to the courtesy and magna-'
”Trnity of the Senste, it, seems to me
- this 4, such Loma, and that it is one
• bich,presents to gentlemenon the other side
. opportunity "to- acquire for themselves a
t dekl' IA credit, tucks particularly when
refieebthat at the last election the present
overnor, of Pennsylvania was re-elected by a
arge majority after a ,most exciting contest,
during which all the great qiiesticins of the day
libie'discussed.'
j There is another proilsion of the Constitution
itywiich I find this.matter so clear and expli
cit that I cannot conceive how any two per
sons can differ about it. When the - Speaker of
the 'Senate becomes Governor of the State, -by
the death er the resignation of the Governor
elect, then a Speaker . pro, iemere is elected. He
is, not a Speaker elect, but a Speaker pro 'tem.—
ei Speaker for the Mai) that the Speaker would
have held the-office, showing that It is a per
petual office. This explicit, provision is suf
ficient,. ha my °pluton, to, convince any one
that the office of speaker of -the Senate Is es
sentiallypi3rpetnaL
,The speaker then explained the respective
petitions of his own.and the other side of the
chamber, and demonstrated the ultimate effect
of each. • He contended that in the formation
of any Biala° or constitution It was impera
tively required that such a construction should
be made as would carry into effc et the purpose
for which it was framed.
Mr. WALLACE. In common with our brother
Senators on this able of the floor we are anxious
to prided to business'. We are desirous that
the,Senate may be organized. But, air, we are
now resting, as we believe, on a principle that
is embodied in the Government of which we
area part: We believe that precedent, custom
and law—yeet, - the organrci law have fixed this
point so clearly and so distinctly.that Senators
cannot conscientiously differ. -
In reply to what the Senator who has just
taken his seat (Mr. CHAMPNITS) has said, let me
ask him why in all thapagelfof all the journals
of the past we find that.the Speaker elect at the
dose of the last session has vacated the chair
immediately after the reading of the returns of
the election of Senators elect at - the preceding
ele'ctionr , Lot me ask him why, sir, the Repub
lican party of Mit Senate, composed of Senators
•electat the last scission, (several of whom had
no voice in the election of yourself to the po-
Sition you occupy,) met in caucus and nomi
nated a candidate for Speaker, Clerk and every
other office this Senate? Lot- me ask him
why they assented to the passage of a resole
tiolLtyat declared explicitly and distinctly that
nitigefiatitooinceekt to eget
a Speaker of the boor It it ries not true that
that was"the pioper and legal course, why did
they assent to the passage of that resolution?
It tells but too plainly that they admitted that
the Constitution wassdear, distinct and explicit
upon that point; , and they were willing to con
'Cede it" , Sir,this 'ls a question of principle, and
we stand upondt, and intend to stand upon It,
belleting that if-there maybe a cams omsuus
ha=the Ceeettitetion , between the data of the
gelng out of a retiring Speaker arid the election
of a- new one; .ft is like 'many another .coeuz
OfflidlllB.lll provisions of la*cind constitutionsof
of, government. But, sir, suppose that to•dey
you, the Speaker of the Senate, were a'prisoner
yet Pdchmond in place' Of Senator White, and
Suppose thatduring your lin prktonmen t the Gov
'enter would die, who then would be the Gov
ernor of, this State I—who then would occupy
your cheit?. It would be a Speaker pro te'npore,
elected bylhe Senate of Pennsylvania.
But, sir; I cannot see the foree• of the argu
ment made by the Senator from Lancaster. We
etmel.ripon thereltien that the business of
this Senate now its organization ;we believe
'that the only bfreinesiebefora this Senate is to
proceed to orginirs by the election of a Speaker
and the other officers. Upon that. we have , of
fered what we believe to -be
_a fair and equitable
adjestrnent. We stand,here,_ sixteen to sixteen.
Why?' Because that Senator WAITE is a prisoner.
And an inference is thrown out, end I am sorry
to see it, and for one I at once place myself in
the.position of spurning all such insinuations
and all stich inferences, that we, the Democratic
Senators of Pennsylvania, your peers, gentle
men,. are in'conference with the rebel govern
ment at. Richmond. For my part I spurn all
such insinuations and all interennes,of that
character that are attempted to be prawn f rom
our present position. I am here, sir, In my
place, a Senator of Pennsylvania. I feel and
believe that we will go es far to sustain this
1 .
Government im.wUl other Senators upon this
floor.. In ", behalf of Mykelf and my fellow
:Senate/TeX throw from me all such imputa
!. ,Siolui.
The assertion - of the Senator from Susque-,
e hanna (Kr. T 1111211114 may find its explanation
in the fact that the New York Tribune and other
Republican rapers "proclaimed that Major
Wnmt was a Senator of Penmaylvania and
that his captivity mode some little difficulty.
Mr. TURRHLL- Allow me to correct' one
statement. So far as may knoweldge -extends,
therfirst information given by/any-public print
in this country of the position ofSenatcr Warns
waigiven* the Hew York ror/d.
MY.'WALLACE • I iminformedby therSen
.ator from Washington HOPILINBY that, a
paper .in Senator Warn 'a own district made
4atentents of that kind.
However, there is another point here. Sen
ators take thernselves in the pp4tion, and pride
.theragelves - upon it, that they are,here-repre
seating a majority of the-people of Pennsylva
nia. lust winter,- we stood here thirteen to
twenty ; now we are ,here sixteen to seventeen.
Sir, three of . jet& members were voted out of
their places'anor Deitocratio Senatots imbstitn
ted, and not a single Democratic Senator has
been displaced.
aSir, the Senator-who gives you a majority
in thit) body.to-day represents= a Democratic
clistrict,;tand. was elected two years ago ; he
represe9ta a district.that sktholast election and
the one previous gave a Democratic majority.
amajority of the people of this Common
wealtle upon the question of the Governor of
the Commonwealth is one thing, and a run
jority of the ,people of this Comonvfealth
in the election of their Senators is another
thing. - Membeni of - this Senate ant' elect
ed in districts &ranged in accordance 'with
the < Constitution ; and this, =arrangement
exists • because it is essential to a p er f ec t
whole to make up the Government in that
Was. When, therefoie,Herintors" 'undertake to
allege that they have ti-thrijoritylef thepeople,
they simply beg the question. .. Tho. question
lo t Is there arazajadty bttherSinstristieldistricts
itipresrifeffitinithis floor .. If %here- big: -then,
• i•• "-10ionium POWSZIVIUG/1."