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TUESEPAY. MARCH 2. 1869.
WE FEINT 0711114 insidepages of Chia
morning's , GAZETTE—Second page: State
News, Ohio Hews, West Virginia News,
City Intelligence. Third and Sixth pages.:
Commercial, Ifinancial, Mercantile aci d
Sim. News, Markets, linporte. Seven th
Agricultural Department.
11. S. Bonne at Frankfort. ark
PETROLMRI at Antwerp, 58i@57f
GOLD closed in 'New York yest.erday
at 18*
IT SEERS that Ge 11824 611:1222.1111 .23 IS to
retain, for the present, his comm and in
Ihe Indian country.
TEM PRESENT Clerk of the Hot tee, Hon.
-EDWARD MCPHERSON', is likely :to be re
elected by the new House. He s has been
a capable and acceptable - officer, and his
7e-electlon is not serione 3 y opp Josed•
BiJPPOSED candidate , fo r a Cabinet
appointment from Pennsyl4! Baia, — .2orkuts
_himself out. Mr. Mogiorsi.l4 annotuoces
- that he does not expect that honor, and
that he would decline it if ter Ldered to him.
TICE BALL. IS BOLLINCii -Missouri an.
Louisiana have both fallen_ - into line and
Satified the Xi7th Constitutional Amend
ment. The prompt alaceity with which
spree States have responde d to the Voice
, of 'Progress augurs well for.the fault tri
umph of thenessure.
Traplmams. specul&texell the poll
ticians, upon the composition of , the Dew
Cabinet, are - simply amcsingto themisses
of the people 43utside: The friends of
Messrs. mow, CAT.M, MEHUDITI I and
finzvisTrat, .now crowd the anxious
benches, and`wait impatiently for a dawn
bright enough to show who Is who.
WILI;VOLZSICIATIS ;never discover how
altical6an experiment it is to bore the
President-elect:for althigh appointment!
Washington la panel strewn with the
remains of ,thelictims of an oveNtonfi
denee their- own !local 4 strength, who
have hastened to. coat hari-kari in the
ante.-chamben of 'General GRANT. This
melancholythusinewronght to be stopped 1
Urtnna :the ••order of the House, in
which the Senate is-expected to concur,
• Ito bridges of less than four hundred feet
span axe totbe erected across the Ohio,
until thnquestions involved in the whole
subject:have been examined and re W ported
upon by a ISoard of Survey. e pre
sante that this covers the . Parkersburg
atse; otherwise, the.ordex of the House
16 -131 DIPV a4heat
• Onto rononmei*O are in tribulation!
- They suspect that the appointment of
Dzwage dim ixirked up the hundred
.and.flity other eminent citizens of that
State, who would•esab accept a Cabinet
office, if urged mpon him. We incline,
however, that Ohio l still have another
distinguiehed ;skew., .otherwise, the ma
-chine of government would be run, for
'the four years to come, with a good deal
, less of Ohio aid ; th an it has profited by
:for the past eight' years, whether in war
.or in peace- -
'Par.spavrioN eaa the President
',elect withstand the pressure of the office
hunting curiosity for two days longer?
We have intimations, bat do not credit
r•titena; thathe will relieve the anxiety of
the lohby, ,by anticipating, to-day, his
•Tletlie for Thursday next. We prefer to
hallevelhatobe will fight it out on his
-own line =Ail 12 o'clock, meridian, of
Thursday: But the pressure, in the
ineantimeht,teerific to cUsinterested spec
lawn. I. N. as a humbug or ,else he
-would ha(re gone to the front last week
And' tugased the whole of it
,
A raratuarion of r'ennsylvanians, on
Yriday evening, met a discouraging , re
apOnse to their application , to Gen GILANT
for the appOlatment of Gen. J. IC. Moon
-man to a place In the Cabinet. During
the conversation, the president elect ate:
9f coarse witheut,r9dection upon
Gen; M.. whose patriotic record Amman
challenge; that 'those whelli he selecte d
- would be non who were loyal to the
Tlnkm during the war, and Who pve
strong and tetthful -supper to the Plat
form on which he WAS elected." ` Very
naturally, this declaration faith awaken,
any great amount of -Democratic enthusi-
Is Tits Carr Courrara yesterday:the
Park projeet was successfully carried by
its friends, and will go the Legislature
for action. It carries with it shill per
slatting_ the, city authorities to obtain a
Joan of half a million of dollars to retire
Keisl amount of bonds past due, the
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rate of interest not to exceed seven per
_cent. The Park project, if the billpasses
the LaOslature, will be submitted to the
people / at a spscial election provided for,
before' Councils %pa proceed any farther.
The Paid Fire Department excited
lively interest In both branches. It
passed the 'Select Council, but was vigor
gully attacked in the Common, and after
two hours discussion, action was" post
!d for one year.
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Ix less asserted in Councils yesterday
that the Amoskeag Fire Engine Building
Company, of ' New Heunpshire, held
claims against our Fire. Department of
tea thousand dollars, debts due on en
gines, and that the agent threatened to
ciiry off the machines if the Paid 'Fire
Department system VEIB not adopted or
, the obligation discharged. -This 'mi
-1 nouncement created some little surprise,
but it was not generally credited and had
only the effect of strengthening the - op
position to the measure. It would be
well to examine into the financial condi
tion of the Department, and if that com
pany are so vigorously threatening to col-'
leet their little bills, let the city pay them
off and hold claims against the engines
for the amount.
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TUE GEORAMA. oussrmii plagues Con
grsmen—and they may thank them
selves for that. The Reconitruetion
Committee hesitates to report a resolution
for unseating the present delegation from 1
that State. Mr. BonTwELL will offer
it, if need be, on his own resPonsibility.
As to the next Rouse, it is said that Clerk
McPatmaoti was engaged last evening
in conference with the new members
onebing_his duty to inscribe or omit
their names from the roil to be called on
Thearsflay. We should infer from this
statement that the Clerk sees cause for
•delaying that decision, which, last week,
was said to be decisively against the
431eornian claim. The report that General
, Gnant‘ visited the Rouse for the purpose
-of influencing its decision upon this diffi
cult case, is a most improbable canard.
The President-elect has a better concep
tion of his own dignity and Of the privi.
leges of the House 'of Representatives.
_
TEEMED/a France lost in the death
of ALPHONSE HE LAMAIMINE, poet, ora
tor, statesman and historian, one of her
most gifted sons and the literary world a
conspicuous and briiliant contributor.
The deceased was born at Macon in 1792;
and was first known as a poet of rare
merit in 1817, but three years subse
quently his name was famous in conti
nental Europe as an author. Re was an
active politician in the tronblotts times of
'4B audited charge of the Department of
Foreign Affairs in the French Provisional
Government. He afterwards served in
the 'National Assembly and was almost
idolized by the people. In 1851, his politi
cal popularity waning and his pecuniary
means and dreams vanishing, he retired
to literary life and labored hard and zeal
ously. flashing many volumes on the
. public, some worthy of his name and
others not calculated to enhance his rep:
utation as a writer 4 luxuriant genius.
THE ALLEGATIONS of eorruption spinal
the active parties in procuring the ratifi
cation of the Alaska treaty hive been
thoroughly investigated. Nothing is
proved except that Mr. ROBERT Weis=
received $26,000, Mr. F. P. &nom;
$6.000, and the Washington Chronicle
s3,ooWfor their services to the Russian
government, and that the press-corres
pondents, who made such broad charges
against members of Congress, originated
them either from mere wantonness, or
from a desire to levy black-mail Upon the
Russian Minister. ThO services of the
parties first named were rendered in the
form of personal solicitations to mem
bers upon the floors of the two Houses, to
which these agents had the ex-Congres
fliOrga right of entree. The Committee of
Investigation very properly recommend
the abrogation of a privilege which is
hat
s
of abuse. It is to be hoped that
the Vast Congress will so modify it as
to `exclude from the floor, for a first
offense, any ex-member who thud proves
himself worthy only of the lobby. The
adoption of such a restriction will do good
enough to pay for all that this investiga
tion has cost.
— _
Ous xsw Passwasr's estimate of the
relative *artifice of honesty among
public officials, and of the necessity, pre
eminent above all other considerations in
the future policy of the, government, that
the Treasury shall be , effectively admin
istered, may be safely inferred from the
fact that, of his selections for important
posts, the first to be made publicly known
was that of Mr. DELANO, for the In-'
ternal Bavanua Bureau. Evidently, Gen
eral GRANT gives his first attention to the
points which seem to him of most con
sequenc,e, and that is the construction
Which the , peOple will place upon this
early and conspicuous exception to his
avowed policy of withholding all intl.
=dons
as to his probable selection of
subordinates.
The problem of' his administration is
not so much that of Southern recoistruc.
tion—for this is morally certain of a
peaaeful and - beneficent solution -- as
whether, or.not, the Government can and
shall be administered with integrity and
efficiency in all its branches; whether we
are fo continue to be;robbed of both our
incomes and outgoes; ,whether jobbery,'
so corrupt se to be utterly'shameless ,
shall continue - reign cpier every,brailell
of theEpnblic . eerrice,,, frAiia the highest tO
to the lowest; whether our just' ituancial
TSBUithll GAIZETTRi -14.1.1tC111 2, 1869
expectations' shall be realized in sket, or
defeated by every form of otficiva raanZ
ity—tbis is really the objecti've point in
the new President's policy,' and he will
fight it out on that line, if if takes all his
four yee . ra in the Executive Chair. General
GRANT. and the country alike know that
lithe sum of the Treasury' honest dues,
honestly collected, would oay the current
expenses and leave v. large 'surplus annu
ally for the payment, of our debts. He
proposeß to spe this thing done, or kno v
the reason for any failure. -
Animas, to his avowed policy;of re•
mitting the //appointment of subordinate
officials t L the heads of the respectiie
Departmr _ i s and Bureaux, holding the
a l ,
latter . onsible to him for the judg
ment and ntegrity of such selections, the
Presidgiatielect will find that lie has se
cured, ;cot himself, a very great exemp
ikon item a pressure of personal solicita
tion violeh fairly worried outthe lives of
twosof his predecessors, Afore they had
more than crossed the threshold of the
Presidential office. More Van that, will
be N'alue the positive :advantage thus
secured to the most important public in
terests. The effort of President Lincowt,
to inaugurate a sioilsr policy toucbinir
official appointments, proved unsuccess
ful, as much as anything else because of
his sympathetic nature, which, in matters
of minor consequence; was often accelf-
Bible to personal appeals. With an equal
kindliness of heart, the President-elect
has learned, in his military career, how
to surrender his personal sympathies to a
colder judgment, or to the higher necessi
ties of the situation. The policy which'
he now proposes will, in itself, be a long
step towards that purification which all
branches of the civil service have come
to need.
GEN. GRANT'S INDIAN POLICY.
It is known that the President elect has
already selected. his new Commiasioner of
Indian Affairs; that this official Will be
heartily in sympaihy with Gen. GRANT'S
determination to purge that department,
from top to bottom, of the speculating,
tll h
knaves who have forever kept the conntry ,
embroiled wi the Indians; that all our
dealings with em are to be upon the
square basis f honesty, firmness and,
if possible, pe ce, and, that the views of
the Peace CommissiOners are to be car
ried out, including the reservation policy
which CongEs, last springs adopted at
their advice. !A considerable number of
the new Agnts will be Quakers, with
whom the General has been in free con
sultation. In short, he will show, by the
inauguration (iks radical changew..in this
service, that he understands the Indian
question thoroughly, 'and does not hesti
tate to supply the needful correctives.
FRESII EMBEWILMENTS.
That the invasion of Mexico, under a
pact between Prance, Austria and Spain,
was designed not only as a menace to the
United States, but to Republican govern
ment on this continent, is a fact too pal•
pable in itself, and too well supported 131
direct and collateral testimony to admit
of serious denial. Nor is this the whole
breadth of the case. Abundant reasons
exist for the conclusion that the expedi=
tion was [undertaken upon the presump
tion that the allied fortes might find op-
portunity, through the progress of the re
hellion in the Southern section of this
country, , for Marching to the aid of the
insurgents, and, by comb!nlng with them,
to put an end to the Governmept of the
United Statei, and for establishing on its
pins a monarchical fabric, which was the
real design of the insurrectionary move-
ment. I
It was not wonderful, therefore, that
this invasion of Mexico aroused a feeling
of intense indignation among the loyal
masses'of our people; nor, that our gov
erninent, instinctively interpreting• the
national consciousness, and comprehend
ing aright what was necessary to its pro
tection as well as to pie maintenance o
i ts dignity, entered a prompt and ener
getic protest, and demanded the with
drawal of the expeditionary forces. liar
was it surprising that, smarting under
the provocation, ideas were advanced
which our government and people are not
prepared to reaffirm and act upon, now
that the danger has disappeared, and a pe
riod of calm reflection and review been
afforded.
For more , than a generation, Mexico has
been in a condition of chronia•upheaval:
There is no stability in its government,
and no rest for its inhabitants ; and sim
ply because there is a lamentable de
ficiency of all the mental and moral ele
ments which are essential to Individual
prosperity and national greatness. If
France alone, or in combination with,
other European powers, luid sent armies
into Mexico to enforce social order, to
promote personal security, and to impart
consistency and vigor to the operations of
the government, and •for these purposes
alone, almost everybody possessing com
mon Bents throughout the whole civi
lized world, would have applauded. Even
no small amount of
,diplomatic jugglery,
in the accomplishnient of these , ends,
would have been pronounced !renal.
What the Mexicans most need is to be
taken by the throat, by a power greatly
superior to their own, and coerced into
respect for public order and private rights-
A rough discipline is the only , one rutted
to their character and habits. If they
have not demonstrated that : they are un,
able decently to govern themselves, then
we. do not know by what means they
could make that fact appear. such gov
ernment as they hayo maintained is only
a burlesque; ands disgrace to the cause
.
of popular insti tu t ions.
Idr. 5... BEacuzu.recently said that
it was as a*urd , to withhold Republican
government until people were prepared
for it, as to , keep boys out of water untP.,
they learn to swim. The illustration op
peals to our national. consciousness and
egotism. We have contrived, on the
whole, to get on immensely, having to
power in thegovernment except such as
the majority of the voters hUve seen St
to put there. So far, well But, where
we have succeeded, the Mexicans have
utterly f l ailed. If they had, drowned; in
such learning to swim as they have en
acted, mankind would have been the
gainers, Nor is this the only example
which Points in the same direction. The
imperial monarchy of Brazil Is the only
respectable government in South America.
Are We asked, if we infer from these
facts that Government by the people is
a failure? Our answer is, that it is not,
but that the mongrel tribes in Mexico and
South America are failures. These ag
gregations of men and women are fail
ures, just as those other aggregations are
which, in this country, we keep safely
confined Iwithin the walls of penitentia
ries. It is not well for them, or the rest
of mankind, that the strong hand of pow
er is kept from their
Mexicb, having taken a short breathing
spell, is again in active ferment. Some
political doctors look prodigiously wise,
and surmise that the symptoms were bor
rowed from Cuba through Spanish ' line.
age. It; is much more probable that the
agitation in Cuba was imparted directly
from the United States, the revolution in
Spain serving only to open a door for it
to enter.
It is worth while to reflect that these
agitations in Cuba and Mexico all make
pretexts either for buying those countries
by the United States, or for absorbing
them by military agencies. Seventy or
a hundred millions put into these pur
chases are discoursed of as admirable
investments, and theni t is coolly assumed
that as the result of twenty or,more years
of costly territorial nurture, these posses
sions would become fitted for admission
as States. Men, who scrutinize appro
priations for all other or natural 'purpo
ses closely, and insist on rigid economy,
talk and write as though a few hundred
millions expended in these annexations
and the proposed preliminary discipline
would be of no consequence whatever
to the tax-payers. They would not vote
one or two hundred millions in the form
of subsidies-to Pacific railway companies,
but they would put either of thosenins
into new territory, instead of devel oping
what we have already. This is follcwing" ,
the example of some farmers who are in-
fatuated for more wild land, but have no
inclination to put under tillage what they
already possess.
Of this the r eople may be sure : that
it will be well for them to watch closely
the progress of events in Cuba and Mex
ico; and see what effects are produced
thereby on the various departments of
the government at Washington.
iy
IN a recent conversation, (len. GRANT
lexpressed his opposition to the present
bonded warehouse system, and, with his
characteristic pith and sense, specified
the fatal error embodied in It. A report
says : ' .
He titonght on the whole that it en
oouragd foreign 'manufacturers to send
l l
hither 11 their surplus goods, to the ex
cludei of our own, to be stored by the
United States, and kept ready for every
favorable turn of the market.
I3e said on the sulaject of the increase
of his salary being mentioned which had
been under discussion in Congress, "I
shall live on what Congress gives me,
spending, of course, every cent of it, and
if more was given to me I should spend
it all. I have no desire, and do not ex
pectto save anything from my salary,
whatever it may be, for my kind friends
have placed me .4n. a,
_position which
leaves me free Oom 011 anxiety about
future want, or the wants of my children.
We shall have enough to live on. and it
is better for them' (meaning his children)
that they do ' not rely too much upon
money."
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A. 'GAUD, from _Col. A. K. 11cCurnit,
deprecates "the undue importance gtven
to his recent brief and cordial interview
'with General Gnmix," and protests
against certain unjust reflections upon his
own discretion. An issue between him
self and Gov. Gssitir is hinted at in the
following paragraph:
"I was informed that Governor Geary
had written, or would write. a letter to
General Grant, on the subject of his Cabi
net. 'I stated that fact to General Grant,
to which he replied thit he had not heard
from Gov. Geary. 1 did not feel at lib
erty to assure General Grant that such a
letter would be receive, a there was
nothing but Gov. Geary'a promise to
warrant the belief that he would recom
mend a particular gentleman for a Cabi
net office fromPenrutvlimnia.
A. K. ISlnCLuns.."
"Philidelphis, Feb. 27,1888." ,
Twain is a remarkable degree of good
B owie in OA annexed Democratic dispatch
to the. Cincinnati Enquirer : •
Most of the men with , whom I have
conversed agree in' thinking (and fear
ing.) thai Gen. Grant's Cabinet (or, staff,
to they say it will be,) will be much
more radical than persons generally sup-
Onee gentleman in gibing reasons
?or this belief argued thus—that Grant
Was a practical and positive man
and would have only practical, and
positive men about htm and practical
and positive men were always Radicals.
It was, perhaps, the; most logical expla
nation he could have given for his belief.
-A Lyon Monumental Association has
been ibrrnedl-at fit. Louis for the purpose
of erecting a bronze equ Lyon estrian statue to
General lqathan who as
killed at the battle iel"
of Wilson's Creek w in
August, 1861. The Association was
formed - by a number of prominent viti
zensoind the erection of the statue in
sured. It le not improbable• that the
bronze horse now , in Washington, cast
by Clark Mills, will be bought, and a
figure of Lyon plaixid thereon.
ern COUSCILS
(Continued from Eighth Page.)
wnich could not be purchased by indi
yiduals for $2,000 an acre. He referred
to the Wilkins estate.
Mr. Potts, Twelfth ward, wanted the
people to be first beard from before go
ing any farther. If 'they were in favor
of a City Park, he was; if they were not,
preposition lookedts p
to him like a big specs-
the
ulation, to benefit certain parties. It was
said the Park would pay for itself; but
yet a million of dollars were asked from
the people. How was thir? He under
, stood there were some persona willing to
undertake the project of getting up
City Park, expecting to rehnburse them
selves and secure profit by enhancement
of the value of property surrounding or
'adjoining the Pare. Let them undertake
it. He was not in favor of allowing the
city to become a party to such specula
tion as be believed was intended. The
gentleman became somewhat pointed in
his remarks concerning speculation, and
was asked to name "the certain men"
who would profit largely if the proposi
tion for a City Park was carried out. He
declined giving any names.
Mr. McCandless remarked the gentle-'
man was not obliged to give names.
Mr. Houston said be was certainly not
in any "Park ring," or any other ring,
and possessed no positive information as
to where the grounds would be located.
There • can be no danger appre
hended that the people may be deprived
of a voice or vote on the measure, be
cause oi 'previous legislattve action, as
asserted by the gentleman from the
Eleventh ward, (Mr. McCandless,) lbr if
that is the law, why have we not to
day in our Chambers seats provided for
members from Allegheny, Birmingham
and contiguous districts which were con
solidated with Pittsburgh, by legislative
enactment; but voted down by the citi
zens! Let us get the matter in business
shape, so that the Commission can act
with a show of earnestness; receive prop
ositions, examine sites and at the proper
time present the matter intelligently to
the people, with whom alone will rest the
final responsibility of acceptance or re
jection.
Mr. Batchelor repudiated the imputa
tion of the gentleman from the. Twelfth
ward in regard to "speculation."
' Mr. Potts disclaimed any personal
reference to him, and begged such a con
struction should not be placed on Ms ra•
Mr• Mr. Batchelor reviewed the history of
the proposition for a City Park, originat
ing in the Council of last year. He had
.been a member of the Comadttee having.
it in charge. The only speculation having.
it
by the Committee was in the interest
of the city.,
The yeas and nays were called on the
motion to lay the resolutien of Mr: Mc-
Candless on .the table.
They were taken, resulting:
Yias -- Messrs. Ardary, Anderson,
Batchelor, Bell, Boggs, Carroll, Case,
House, Houston, Jamison, Jahn. Jones,
Lockhart, Moorhead, Morg.ari' Morton,
McCarthy, McCiarren, MeMaslers, Mc-
Cleane, McKelvey. Pearson, Scott, Tom
linson, Verner. Vick,
Parson,
-2t Tom
Albeit/. Barr, Black,
Berger. Booth, Bulger, Caskey, Dein,
Daub. Dunseath, Fleming, Hutchinson,
Lanahan, Meanor. Meyer. Moore, Mc-
Candless, Nixon, Potts, Reed, Rebman,
Rosewell, Rook, Seiferth, Sims, Vetter,
Waughter, Welsh, Weisenberger,-Wil
son-30.
So the motion to lay on the table did
not prevail.
The question was then taken on the
adoption of the resolution, and a division
called. There heingsome uncertainty as
to the count, one member having voted
both yea and 'nay,. it was concluded to
take the yeas and nays. The result was:
Yeas—Messrs.- Albeit/, Barr, Black,
Berger, Booth, Bulger, Caskey, Dain,
Daub, Dunseath, Fleming, Meanor,
Wore, McCandless. Nixon, Potts, Reed,
Rebsnan, Rosewell, Rook, Seiferth, Sims,
Vetter, Waughtar, Welsh, Weisenber
ger and Wilson-27.
Nays—Messrs. Ardary, Anderson,
Batchelor, Bell, Boggs, Carroll, Case,
House. Nonstop. Hutchinson, JEMISOD,
Jahn, Jones, Lanahan, Lockhart, Meyer,
Moorhead, Morgan, :Morton, McCarthy,
McClarren Mc3fasters, McCleane,
Mo-
Kelvy, Pearson. Scott, Tomlinson, Ver
ner, Vick and Weldon—SO,
So the resolution was lost.
The action of Select Council, approv
in the ack, and s enact
meg
nt. was then concurred inrecommending it .
Yeas 31,
nays 23.
PAID FIRE DEPARTMENT.
The proposed act for the creation of a
Paid Fire Department, as reported from
1 1 Select Council, was taken up and read.
Mr. Sims, Third ward, moved to con
cur in the action' of Select Council.
Objected to, placing the act on second
reading.
Mr. McKelvey movedthat Council re
solve itself into Committee of the
Whole, to consider the act. Carried. '
Mr. Batchelor took the Chair.
Mr. Case moved the act be considered
section by section. Carried.
Mr. Weldon moved to amend the sec
ond section by making the term of the
Fire Commissioners three instead of
seven years. _
Mr. Case d mnve to amend by striking:
out* the word "Commissioners,"and
went on to argue infavor of the substitu
tion of the Committee on Engines and
Hose, of Councils, believing the affairs
of the Department would be much better
managed by such Committee than by a
Commission.
Mr. Morgan took the opposite view.
thinking a Commission vastly preferable,
where such great political power was in
danger of being conferred. He instanced
the example of New York, where both
the Fire Department and Police were con
trolled by Commissioners.
Mr. Case's motion to' strike out the
Word “CoMmission" prevailed. . •
The Chairman inquired of Mr. Case
what lie proposed to substitute for the
word ',Commission?" , ; •
Mr. McCarthy thought the gentleman
did not desire to substitute anything, the
object being to killthebill.
• Mr. Case—lwithdraw lay amendment.
Mr. Morgan—Yon cannot withdraw it,
as it.has , been adopted.
Mr. "McKelvey moved to reconsider
the vote' by which ,the amendment was
adopted. Rejected.: •
Some one suggest e muddle. -
d that here was a
The, _Chairman coincided in the re.
mark, and did not • see how.the,Connoll
was to get out of the muddle.
Mr. Moorhead moved to reoonedderthe
vote on the irnotion to. consider the act
section by smitten. •
This action prevailed, and'all previous
action of the Cornmittee Was regarded as
wiped out. ' •
• Mr. Caskey moved the bill be laid on
the table. He desired a test vote on the
question of a Paid Fire Department.
- The decided motion not
in order. The Chairman
Committee the
must report
the bill to Connell either negatively,
amended or as committed. •
Mr. McCandless offered the following:
WHERE/is, Councils have made the
appropriationa for the present year, ex
hausting the entire receipts o Bahe year,
and could not make the propo change
in the Fife Department without incur
ring a debt of at least $100,000; and where-
';l4
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as, the present, inde
being large, and Cot
to add to the debt, . .!
Resolved, That the further exaritiera
don of the sublhe' i. be, 'postponed for the
present, year.."`
A motion to lay the resolution on the
table did not prevail.;-
Mr. Morgan said If the resolution was
adopted, and the pendin'g bill thus killed,
the city would be i without fire - protec
tion, iwithout a I fi re department, in
less than two months. The fire compa
nies were in debt for their steamers, and
the Amoskeag Company, from whom
they were procured, would seize them.
An agent of that company was 13 9 w in
the city, waiting to see what would be
done in the matter now pending. Bat
one fire company in the city—the Inde
pendence—was out of debt for its steam
er. It was necessary, therefore, for im- .
mediate action. He repeated, that if the
resolution of . the gentleman from the
Eleventh ware Was adopted, the city
would be left without a fire department.
The active members of the present de
partment to a man favored the proposed
change, arida vast majority of the prop
erty holders also favored it. The mea
sure, too, had originated with and was
advocated by some of the foremost of our
citizens. _
-Mr. McCartik strenuously opposed the
resolution.
. Mr. Fleming offered the following sub
stitute in writing for the last section,
which was decided not , in order:
"Section 17.-4 The foregoing Act shall
be submitted to a vote of the tax-payers
-I
of the city, for their approval or re3ec- .
tion." I
Mr. Case remarked the total indebted
ness of the fire companies to the Amos
keag Works was about ten thousand dol
lars.
He did ' s not think, as had been
stated, that the Fire Department were
unanimously ie favor of the proposed
change, but pehaps the majority were.
-
Mr. McCand l ess isaid the indebtedness
of the Fire Department should be paid,
and could be out the contingent fund
,of fifty thousand dollars. As far as his
knowledge went, the property holders
I did not desire, a Paid Fire Department,
being well satisfied with the Depart
-1 ment as at present constituted. Neither
I did he believe l.bat a majority of the pres- •
ant Fire Depattment were in favor of any
change, proofof which was given in re-
I
I monstranceel presented. He thought -
I nothing would be lost in postponing the -, -
matter for a year.
Mr. Morgan repeated that the active
I members of the present fire department ,
were heartily in favor of the change pro.
posed.
Mr. Potts argued in favor of paying off
1 the debt of t e different fire companies..
He preferredthis to incurringthe large
expense req site in reorganizing the ,
department as proposed. Our fire
department e believed to be one of the
naostefilcien in the country. Why des
troy such a epartment ?
Mr. Jones esired to ask a g e ntleman will
Chair 'an—
permit
the gentleman will
permit it.
Mr. PottsJ-C, ertainly.
Mr. Jones=-1•Wonld you be willing to . ,'.
give your sir ices as a fireman gratui
_
tously ? I
Mr. PottsJ--I never said so.
Mr. Jonee-- Then why ask others to do
so? I 1
cityfort said ho had lived in the
city forty years, and had watched the
rise and progress of the lire department.
He had assisted in the organization and
was a member of the Niagara, one of
the
the
most e ff icient of the companies in
city. He thought it would be wise to
postpone the matter of a paid fire depart
ment for aiyear or two, at least until our
water supply was more adequate.
Mr. Morgan—ls not the Niagara Fire
Company out of service to-day for want
of horses?
Mr. Wilson -I have not so understood.
Mr. Morgan--Such is tho fact.
Mr. Jones favored a paid fire depart
ment. He believed firemen should be
paid for their services.
. Mr. McClarren said a great deal had
been said h ad no t
con on the subject, but
as yet he had not heard anything about
taxation. The • matter of insurance -
should be considered—whethelnsurance
the tax
proposed to be imposed on
Companies would not have the effect of
increasing premiunas, or of driving out
both home and foreign Insurance Com
, panies. He thought that a paid Fire De
' oartment would be a:mere deadnaaohine,
in the absence of the spirit of emulation
and rivalry now prevailing among fire
companies.
Mr. McCerthv said the principal c ame
to the paid Fire Department came
from Insurance Coirpanies, neon whom
it was proposed to impo-e a full share of
the increased expense. The absence of
emulation spoken of would be more than
compensated for in the order and effi
ciency which would prevail with the fire
men under police control.
lir. Morgan said as figufes had been
called for, he would refer members to the
report of the Commission on Paid Fire
Department. •
Mr. Potts again spoke in opposition.
He thought the Commission, in makinst
their estimate, had not fully considered
;swear and tear." He especially feared
that if insurance companies were taxed
for a paid department, the property hold-.
era would suffer thereby:in the high pre
miums which would be exacted. •
Mr. Scott, taking part for the first time
in, the discussion. (to which he said he
_had listened - with great interest and at
tention,) favored a paid fire dePartment.
A lew outsiders,said, were making
all the noise, and from them all the op
position came. These same men—insur
ance agents—would also be encountered
at Harrisburg, and the fight there would •
be much fiercer than here. Mr. S. allu
ded to the unequal distribution of the
fire companies in the now enlarged city,
and gentlemen from the outside districts.
were standing in their own light when
they opposed the proposed act.
, Mr. cMasters - spoke in favo r
ed a .
Paid The Department, in oppoin to '
the resolution.i ,
Mr. Barr was in favor' of a Paid Fi re 1,4
butDepartment;' i
not in the - hands of a t
Commission.' Be would have - it con- :ti
trolled as the Cincinnati department is t } .4
'controlled. Ile said' it was very certain ...I
that if the several ' bilis now, pending—
City Irak, Water Commission: and Paid ' ,:. ill
Fire Department—Were adopted; the city + ; 4
would be involved in largely increased
urdeus, and an annual taxation of one ' 4
hundred thousiand dollars would be re- • 1
hired for there'd Fire Department. - P
The question: was taken on the passage ! ,
of the resolution of Mt. McCandless, and
;the Chair decided it adopted. ' e
The Committee' of the Vhole rose, and -. -e
Mr.' Batcheler, the chairman, reported - I. ; i
B
theresoluti to the
' Mr. Carr ol l move d to lay the rest ' t
lotion on the , table, and - the y_easana7 r
hays were celled, r esulting . ..- .
Yeas--Anderson. Batcheler. • Beggs , •". „
Carroll, Case, Daub, House, ,Houstori, ,
Jahn Lockhart, Moorhead, Dlorgant
McCarthy, higlitasters, McOlesine,hickLelrner,
vy, Sims, Scott, Ton:dinn,
,Ve
.
Vick, Weldon --22, , i
Nays—Ardary, Aibeits, Barr, Black,
Berger, Bell, Booth, Bulger, CaskeY.
Dain, Dunseath. Fleming, jintOilinaOni,
Jamison, Lanahan. Meanor; - MsYert
Moore, Heelarren, McCandless; Nixon*
Pearson, Potts, Read. Reiman, Res ew
Rook, Seiferth, Vetter. Waghter,
t lesr," ,
Welsh, Weisenberger
Mr. Houston movedi Wilson--33.
to amend
caution by striking vat the word i
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