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THE SORANTON TRIBUNE-THURSDAY, NOVEMBER EOWogi
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BURN5 BRINQS UP
A NEW COn PLICATION
(Continued
largo ns on nny of the preceedlnu; days
unci the pioportlon of ladles In attend
ance law.
The day opened with Mr. Mitchell on
tho stand, under cro"s-exiiiulniitlon by
Mr. Hoss, general counsel of the Del
aware, Lackawanna and Western com
pany. .Simon P. Wolverton, rounsel for
the 1'hlladolphla and Headlinr Coal and
Iron company, and .Tames I!. Torrey,
of counsel for the IJehiwate and Hud
son company, and I. If. Burns, for the
Independent operators, followed Mr.
, Ross as ctosvexantlnets, and when Mr.
Mitchell was turned over for re-dlrect
examination by Mr, Darrow. The
morning session wup about concluded
when Rev. Dr. Roberts took the stand.
Recognition Incident,
The "recognition" Incident was In
jected by Mr. Rurns just before Mr.
Mitchell was turned over to Mr. Darrow
for re-dlrect examination. The discus
sion was as follows:
Mr. Burns: If the court please, T do
ot desire to Interrogate tho witness to
any extent, but I uliould like to know
from the commission as to whether they
Intend In tfcilr finding to make one gen
eral sweeping finding In regard to all
,lariies of operators. or whether they
take notice of the distinctions between
the Individual operators and what we
call the big company. r
Of couno. J think the commission un
derstand, In a general wny. that the In
dividual operators, are under somewhat
dlffcicnt conditions from the railroad
companies. The cream of the coal lands
of' the wholo valley and the whole nn
thinclte region wete long" ago iibsoibed
by tho large corporation". Tho few Indi
vidual operators that are left aie mining
poor terrltoiy, and, In some cases, aro
taking mines that have been virtually
mined out by the largo companies and
are stripping them. Of rome, tliey have
a certain line of fixed charges, and tlioy
have no mcam to relnibtnse themselves
bv profits on tallrouds or other enter
prises. They depend solely and entirely
on what they get from their particular
mines, and, of course, ns a general thing,
they do not own the land. They pay a
loyalty for the coal that they get out.
Now, suppose an Individual operator has
a hundred acres of land where the veins
re thin, because the thick veins were
long ago absorbed, and the thin velin are
more difficult to mine, tic has really to
pay more for getting out a ton of coal
than the other companies. Xow, he lias
certain fixed charges. He lias his royal
ties; he has the interest on his capital
Invested, which amounts to a large bum,
and he has to build n breaker before
lie can do anything at nil. Then the
pumping and ventilation of tho mines,
the feeding of the mules, the tunnel 4 of
machinery, the depreciation of the
breaker all these are fixed charges
which run along continuously, whether ho
works or not. Therefore, 11 can be easily
seen that a strike lasting long enough
could completely do up 1111 Individual
operator, lie has no railroad by which
he can pay his running expenses. Also,
1 would say, that they employ or hae
employed a greater or less number of
non-union miner .
About Non-union Men.
Now, t do not undetstand, and 1 have
rot been Informed from any of the ques
tions that have been asked the witness
before the couit, ns to whether, If any
contract Is made, or If this commission
should find it proper to suggest or recom
..mend or iind that contracts should be
made with the I'nltcd Jltne Worker. of
America, whether thev would imlst. as it
seems they do In Illinois, thnt no non
union men should ho employed, or
whether thoj- propose to make contiacts
with us slmplv for the union men that
we employ, and leave us free as hereto
fore to employ non-union men.
1 do not know whether tho commission
undtestand these questions or not, and
we certainly ate not Informed as to the
extent that tho commission would go if "it
had the power. It seems to us that in
this hearing there teally ought to lie
ome rule In rcgaid to It. Ileio the big
corporations have had four or five days,
and tho commission I tired. We can see
at once that its membeis have been
wearied: and, although we might ask
Mr. Mitchell omo questions peculiarly
pertaining to our workings, we do not
care to keep the commission sitting hero
when they evidently do not want to.
They want to go on to other witnesses;
hut it does seem to us that as to any
future witnesses that are called wo ought
to have some privilege, some designated
time or opportunity afforded ui to exam
ine them when questions are arising
which are different with us than they
are with the others. It may be that
theto will bo very tew. Tt may be that
tho counsel tepresentlng the corporation!
win draw out tie very things that we
would like to han asked; but we would
like to have It undetstood, and would
like to have the commission make some
sort of arrangement whetebv we can be
heard, to some slight extent, In the ex
amination of the future witnesses. We
will bo very brief: but it seems to us that
there aie some things that ought to he
said in respect to our mutters that the
other gentlemen will probably not draw
out. Of course, wo leave it entliely to
the commission. Those ate Fiiggestlons
that wo make at the present time.
Tho Chairman: I think I can say that
the commission will hear you as to the
Bargain Babies.
If babies were for sale the most invet
erate bargain-hunting woman in the
world would not look Tor a bargain baby.
She would want the best baby that could
be bought, regardless of price.
Every woman naturally craves
healthy, handsome child, and ber crav
ing can bt gratified if she will but re
member that the child's health is her
in gift, and to give health she must
1 have it to give.
Mothers
whose babies have
been weak and punv
have nursed in strength
their first strong child
after using Dr, Pierce's
Favorite Prescription. It
is the best preparative for
Maternity, encouraging the appetite,
quieting the nerves aud inducing re
freshing sleep, It gives the mother
trangtu to give her child, and makes
the baby's advent practically painless,
Mt wife bad been rick nearly all her life,
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Mr. E. a. Fiicke. of pctcriburg, J
Illinola. Bos S67, "and after trjiur
1 1 could think of J made up my tx
Mcoard
to
every-
this I could think of I made up my mind to
try 'FjTorlte Fmcriptlon.' I rot tix boltlei,
width ray wife took, a tabletpoonful three timci
a day, until tbt baby came. She felt better
.after takisf the first bottle, and when baby was
or be weighed nine and a half pounds. To
Uyhe u lis tnosth old aud weigh twenty-two
Btsa4f. He i a good a child a any one could
wish. The doctor fay he is a healthy at any
tty could be, and alto ttya the use of your
'Favorite Fnacriptloa was the cause of auch
ktaUhybaV
pr, Piarce's Pleasant Pellets are the
best and safest laxative for the tut f
aklicata women,
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Justice of the suggestion that you make,
and that they will feel themselves com
pelled to consider ths whole question In
the light of thu varying aspects of It
that nte brought Into It by the Individual
opetnlors. Thu only thing that the com
mission havo Intimated Is not that they
were tiled of the special testimony that
has been brought out, but that we
thought It was about time thnt we were
getting at ,omo of the testimony that
beats more neatly now after having
heard the general statement that .bears
more nenrly upon the work we hnvo In
hand and the very grave duty that Is
Imposed upon us by the submission of
the two sides to this controversy; but we
are willing to hear the operators who
are parties to this controversy, by their
counsel or representatives, at any lime,
only suggesting and hoping that, to far
as this witness Is 'concerned, they will
consider the great length at which he
has been examined, and whether theto
Is anything more to be Interrogated of
him that tt can be profitable for this
commission to hear.
Mr. Hums: There Is only one question
that I should like to ask Mr. Mitchell, on
a point that 1 do not think haH been
suggested berore. That Is. I should like
to ask Mr. Mitchell what he considers
the definition of a miner's Job.
Q, I think you have refened to or used
the term "miner's job," not as to what
he works at, but as to his title or claim
to a particular place, when ho has not
been working there for a time, or when
he 1ms been on strike, and comes back.
What Is the meaning of the words
"miner's Job" In that light?
A. Oh, I think that the general or usual
ncrepted term would be the Job that ha
left when he went on strike.
Does Not Surrender Claim.
Q. What I want to get at particularly
Is, what Is hl title to It? Is there any
vested right? For Instance, a few weeks
before this strike, a miner was employed
who went to work. In a couple of weeks
the strike occurred, and he left. He was
paid in full by the company for his ser
vices and all relations with them nppar
ently terminated. After a time the com
pany put a non-union miner In that
chamber where he had been. When ho
comes back, he complains and says:
"Here Is another man who has got my
Job, and T want the union to take some
steps In regard to it, and I want to get
my Job back." Why does he say his Job,
when he has voluntarily abandoned it,
and received ills pay and the accounts
are all squaied between him aud tho
company?
A, Well, when a man goes on slilke he
does not surrender his claim for re-employment
the same as he would if he
absolutely quite work when thero was no
strike arid left the employ of the com
pany. A man is on strike for better
wages, or to get some improvement In
the conditions of his employment, better
wanes for the particular employment he
was doing, or for improvement In the
conditions of the employment he was do
ing, lie never surrenders absolutely his
right to that employment, because he is
striking fot It back. He is str iking to
get back to work at a higher late o'f
wages or under Improved conditions of
emploj merit.
Q. You speak about a sin tender of his
right. What right ? Did the company
employ him for a year or two years? Ts
there any contract between them that
cannot be terminated by either at any
time? And when they have terminated It,
when tho miner stops working and the
company pays him for- all the work he
has done, is there anything left to sur
render? A. Legally, he has no claim on the
company. Morally, r think he has. Of
course, it 1b true that men, under the
usual conditions, have no claim, no rights
in employment. That right the employ
ers exercise. A man has the right to
employment, as things have been, If the
operators wanted to give him employ
ment; but we believe that when this
strike ended, ending under the conditions
It did -ending practically by both sides
stopping fighting a cessation of hostrll
ties, that the conditions should have
been re-established that prevailed prior
to the in tuguratlon of the strike; that is
to say, the men should be permitted to
return to their old job". As for the non
union men who had taken their places,
we do not ask for their discharge, but
there was any amount of room for them.
1 date say that the anthracite mines to
day could employ ten thousand or fifteen
thousand men. There ore that many
that have not come back to them who
went away. The non-union men that
havo had our men's Jobs might have
been moved Into the positions that weie
vacant that Is to say. Jobs that the men
did not return to take.
The Absolute Rights.
Q. I am not asking you a to the re
lations between the companies and the
union miners. T am asking jou as to
the absolule rights voir seem to infer, in
some of the answers you have made to
the questions you seem to hnvo Inferred
that there was some mysterious or un
defined absolute right which the miner
hnd to come back to work for the eom
pnny again. Now, T will suppose a lit
tle further. Suppose, when jour union
men left the employ of the D. and H.
or lire D., 1,. and W those companies
had succeeded in filling every chamber
In their mines with non-union men.
Would you still consider that you had a
right to come back, and to keep this
strike going as to the whole region un
til the I). and II, and tho D T. and W,
ousted their non-union miners and put
your men back in their places?
A, That would depend absolutely on the
conditions under whloh the strike ended.
If the strike were defeated, If the men
were defeated, of course they would go
back. Just as they usually do. They
would go back, hat In hand, and usk for
their Job.
Q. Do you understand that under this
submission to this commission the tight
Is reserved on the pait of the emplo.vcra
to retain the non-union men that they
already have, ur Is II you contention that
when it contract Is made with you If one
Is made that all the mtueis or men em
ployed shull be members of your union?
A. Of course, I should not piesume to
Intimate, to the commission what the nro-
vlsous of the conduct they shall recom
mond will be, ir they recommend a con
tract or award a. contract; but I under
stand the companies havo said that they
would not dlschaigo non-union men, Thut
Is to say, they would not submit the
right of diseluuging their men. We havo
not asked for tt. We do aHk, and will
nsk, tho commsHlou to restore our people
to their positions. We have not asked
that thu non-union men be discharged
from tho employ of the companies. There
will be any amount of work for them In
thn mines.
Q, That does not exactly answer my
question. Whut 1 want to know now Is,
suppose that one of the Individual opera
tors has half of his chambers filled now
with non-union men, aud the commission
should nwntd 11 contract, or should say
thut he ought to make a contract with
ou. What does that contract mean?
Does ll mean that you shull govern all
tho men In the mine with your rules and
regulations, or does It mean that the
contract only applies to those union men
lepiesented by you, and their relations
with tho opetalou?
Would Be Presumption.
A. I feel It would be presumption on
my part to say to the commission and I
cannot say to ou without saying It to
the commission just exactly whut thu
wotdlng and purport of their decision
tli. ill be. I hope thut, whatever it Is, it
will do juttlce to everybody that is all.
Tho Chairman: Mr, Bums, pardon mo
a moment. Of course, the commission will
necessarily be governed by the terms of
the submission.
Mr. Hums! It secmrt to hid ft tittle
vague lu that respect.
The f'lmlrmnti! Of course, It It Is vagiift
It will be untoituuntc, and we will havo
to make the best we can of It, but tho
submission, ns tvp understand It, rind we
have considered thnt matter very care
fully, Is contained In the letter of the
operators, on the orre side, tu the presi
dent or to the public, nnd the acceptance
of the mine workers, on the other. Thnt
Is the submission, nnd that, as we under
stand, defines our .authority, and ulso
define, as we consider, somewhat, the
obligations of the two sides. I find, In
the letter ot the operators, at lite close
of It, nfter consenting that a commis
sion be appointed by the president of the
1'nltrd Slates, If he Is willing to perform
that pub.llo service, to whom shall be
referred all questions at Issue between
the respective companies and their own
employes, whether thy belong to a union
or not, and lire decision of that commis
sion shall be accepted by us, the com
mission to be constituted ns follows then
comes the following: "That Immediately
upon tho constitution ot such commission,
In order that Idleness and non-production
may cease Instantly, tho miners will re
turn towork and cease all Interference
with or persecution of any non-union
men who are working or who shall here
after work." That being the condition
upon which the operators offered a sub
mission, which was nfterward accepted,
that the miners shall Instantly return to
work, necessarily Implies that they shall
have work to which they can return.
The Witness: That Is the position we
take Irr the mntter absolutely, Mr, Burns.
We take the position that so far we have
been denied the right to return to work.
Mr. Burns: Thnt applies to the opera
tors who signed that letter, brrt our peo
ple, whom I represent, were not parties.
The Chairman: If they are here, why
they become practically parties to this
agreement. A bill In equity, you know,
may be filed on behalf of the Immediate
parties nnd all of those who shall there
after come lu nnd make themselves par
ties. Sir. Burns: The section that you honor
just read provides as 10 what shall be
done Immediately, arrd Is evidently for a
temporary purpose; thnt Is, that they
shall return to work; but that, tt seems
to me, does not furnish a permanent
rule. It Is very important for us to tin
derstand as to whether wo are to be al-
lunyu iu rinpu, iiuu-umuii men, uiiu lu
retain those we have.
Finding of Commission.
The Chairman: That Is a matter that
will be involved In the finding ot the
commission, I take It. I think the under
standing, so fnr as the commission can
interpret It, Is that pending the hearing
pending the consideration of the questions
by this commission that the strikers
should rettrrn Immediately to work; and
I think It Is the further understanding
do not let us be misunderstood had by the
commission. Is that non-union men
should not be interfered with nor dis
placed from employment generally by the
return of the striking miners.
Mr. Burns: And that the commission
will take 'all these things into considera
tion in their final findings irr regard to It.
The Chairman: Well, I think we will
have lo.
By Mr. Burns: Q. One more question,
Mr. Mitchell. T'er haps It does not bear
very heavily upon this. I understand tho
Kleventh Commandment Is. "Thou shalt
not take thy neighbor's Job." Does that
rule apply outside ot the union, or does
It only apply as to union people, and
between union people? For Instance, dur
ing the strike, a considerable number of
your men went up hi the country and
worked on farms, evidently supplying la
bor there that might hae been done by
the farm laborers themselves, and at a
reduced price; for instance, they worked
for fifty cents a day and. their board.
Would jiou consider that as taking an
other man's Job?
A. I do not understand that the strikers
took other men's jobs. There Is always,
fit tho summer-time, temporary labor to
perform on farms, aud our people dis
placed no one, and did not lake a job
that had formerly been held by onyone.
Q. Perhaps you sate not as well in
formed abotrt farming as I am, because
I have been there; but a farm laborer's
opportunity for work Is only in the sum
mer, and some of them only for the
haying and harvesting, as we call it.
Now, if your men went there nnd took
those jobs at the commencement of hav
ing, they necessarily took the work away
irom inose men who naa oeen accus
tomed to do that amount of labor there.
I was only asking you If you considered
that as taking another man's job.
A. I cannot say that It was taking air
other man's 1ob unless It was n position
formerly held by some other man.
Necessary Consequence.
Q. Then perhaps as a necessary conse
qunce ot that, some farmers' boys came
down to work in the valley, and one of
thein, nt least, I rember now, went to
work at a washery at Mavfield. A few
days afterward he was filled full of
buck-shot and made a cripple for life.
Do you consider that as taking one of
your jobs? AVas ho coming down to take
a job that belonged to you? He worked
in a washery, where none of your men
were employed befoie; certainly where
none of your men were ready to take em
ployment.
A. Well, I think it Is rather an abstract
proposition nil the way through, and I
should simply say thls.as I said before,
that when a strike ends, the conditions
of employment aro stipulated are speci
fied. In this termination, wo were to re
turn to work. The operators made the
condition themselves that we Immediately
return to work. The president ot the
United States says to us and the men:
"I request you to go back to work." We
do go back to work. IJvery man teturns
to work, and we say to tho president,
"We are going to work. Wo are going to
our old jobs," and Immediately we go
there and nte refused them. We hae
hundreds of men Idle now refused the
light to so hack,
Q. But lu this particular rase I am ask
ing about, the strike had not ended, and
there wat. no Immediate prospect of end
ing It. Why not have lot that man wotk
peaceably until the strike was ended and
then raise the question?
A. I tepeat that If anybody filled him
full of buck-shot, they did wrong. It
wnj u wrong act. And If It was our peo
ple, they ctjttalnly would be condemned
for It and ought to be condemned for
It. 1 do not know who did It; probably
someone else,
Q. No one else hpnaieutly had a reason
for doing It. The companies would not.
The rltlssens would not, Non-union men
would not, and ho was a man who never
hud an enemy lu the world. Now, lit re
lation to a wnshery that was started en
tirely after your strike was commenced,
did your men have any Interest there, or
any vested right or moral or legal tight
to Intcvfete with tho wnikmen who were
employed nt that washery, which was
built and commenced to operate after
your stilke commenced, so that certainly
they weie tnklug-none of jour places?
They Had the Right.
A. Well, th.v had this tight, They had
the right to ask the men not to start to
woik at the new washery, because the
operation of the new washery wus aolng
to contribute to tho defeat of the general
cause tor which the minors were stilk
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Q.Is tt not a pretty good rule, tho old
saying to mind your own buslnesa? Now,
what business had your men to go to tho
Duryea washery and even In n, peaceable
manner to go onto somebody's else land,
In order to petsuado the woikmcu there
from working?
A. They had as much right to persattdo
men from working thero as they had to
persuade them from working nnywhero
else.
Q. Well, thev did more than persuade
them there, didn't they?
A. I understand they did, We had n.
poor fellow going along one night nnd
somebody killed him, und went out dur
ing the night and picked the bullet out
of his head, so they could tint be sure
whi It wasj They certainly did things
there more than persuade.
Q. As you say, jou are not Informed,
nnd I um not Informed as to who did It,
A. No, I wus trot Informed -who did It.
Q. Hut thero were cases where they
came lu broad daylight, Irr large crowd",
and endeavored to Intimidate men who
were there at work nnd used actual
violence? A. Where that wn reported to
mc, I sent ft special man right to Dur
yea nnd repeatedly sent word to our
people there that they must cease lnter
lerenco of an unlawful chnrncter sent
special oflleers to Duryea to stop It.
Q. Then you would not approve of that?
A. Of unlawful acts; no, sir.
Thn Chairman: Mr. Burns, just pauo
for n moment. Wc nre drirtlug tight
back, to the old controversy. Now,
whether you think or Mr. Mitchell thinks
thnt the acts desotlbed, supposing they
were committed, were wrong or not, tho
commission think they were wrong, and
the moiat se'use of the public Is thut
they were wrong. I do not see anything
to be gained by going over and over litis
matter. Kxeuse me If I spenk somewhat
emphatically, but the commission have
heard a grent deal about It, and thev
have a moral sense of their own. which
I presume agrees with the moral sense
of the community nnd of society general
ly. T do not think it makes very much
difference to the commission t sav It
with all respect what Mr. Mitchell
thinks nbout It or what Mr. Burns thinks
about It.
Very Important.
Mf TIltfMSS Tltli If tUn. nnttitttuulms
p ,t , important to both ldes
,,r,i, in ,. ,v.n
here the union men, tho operators and
those who are non-union men who delre
to work here as to this other question
which T have been endeavoring to pre
sent, Whether the commission finds, as
I suppose It can find arrd recommend or
direct, thnt the union men cease entirely
from molesting non-union me In their
own particular work under the order;
whether the commission do that, or
whether thev do not do It, Is a matter of
the roost vltnl Importance.
The Chairman: Yes, but what bearing
has this particular colloquy upon that
subject?
Mr. Burns: It Is to show the commis
sion what has been the custom and what
ought to be corrected.
The Chairman: This witness does not
testify as to whether those things have
been done or not. He cannot do It, he
says he cannot do It, that he does not
know anything about It. Now, these
acts, If proved nt all, ought to he proved
by somebody who knows something about
them.
Mr. But ns: We piobablv shall not
hae the oppoi tuuilv of meeting Mr. Mit
chell on tho stand herealter. and I was
only asking him ns to his views on the
sublect. Supposing that these things are
all true, as they will be proved, and sup
posing that the commission has tho
power to say what "hull be done by the
union men in regard to the non-union
men. It would be ot some importance to
get his views heie as to whether he
approved of it, or as to whether he could
do it.
The Chairman: He has been asked that
very question over and over again. I
think you will agree that the commission
are not impatient when they draw tho
hue at mere cumulative testimony.
Mr. Burns: As a fcenernl rule, he has
succeeded in evading the question.
The Chairman: Oh, I do not think so
the commission do not think so.
The Witness: T will say that a direct
answer would be this: Whatever the
commission decide, whatever they award,
even in Eolation to the non-union men,
we shall accept, and, ns fnr as I am
concerned, the mlneis will carry It out to
the last letter or get out ot our union.
By Mr. Burns: Q. Have you enter
tained that view and have you made that
exptossion heretofore iu regard to that?
Is not that something new that you have
just expressed?
A. No, it is not something new. I said
In my opening statement to the commis
sionemphasized It over and over again
that we aro pledged to accept tho award
of the commission, thnt the Vnlted Mine
Workers of Amci lea Is pledged.
Non-union Men's Standing.
The discussion telntive to the non
union men's standing before the com
mission followed this:
The Chalunan: Mr. Lenahan, with ret
eieuco to the matter of your applltatlnn
to appear before the commission as coun
sel for cettaln non-union workers in the
mines, the commission have considered
that application, and in the light ot tho
claims that you have Hied with tho com
mission on behalf of your clients, and
they hao looked at the papers which
havo come befoio them unolllclally, not
filed, and containing a list ot those whom
our tepiesput; and tho commission havo
concluded that 11 may bo allowed lo
appear for the non-union men who you
say you represent, upon thu condition
that you appcur on the serine basis as
other formal parties lo Ihe heating, Willi
the distinct understanding though that
thu commission vannot be In nny degree
a. party to the withholding of any mut
ter, or the identity of any peison con
nected with the Issue before the com
mission, from full pnblliln.
Jlr. r.enahan: We wilt accept that
suggestion.
Jlr, Dai row: Then, jour honor, we are
lo have tlie mimes of the paitles whom
Iht'se counsel repiesent,'
The Chaiiman': We cannot withhold
them,
Jlr, Dai low: Aro they a pait ot thu
recotd of this commission?
The Chairman: I'art of the record? of
this commission nnd llterefoie you hue
access to them,
Mr. Dauow: Thank ou. lu our for
um! answer to this comnrls-lou wo ill-
.leged
Tho Chaliiuuu! I luUe It, Jlr. Unriotv,
ot course, thut It will bo eoicKd in nil
fairness on bolh sides. Mr. Jlltchell ap
peared In Washington at tho Initial heal
ing hnfoie this comniislson and said that
ho it-presented th anlhiHcllo mine woi le
ers of this region who weio on strike.
Thut, I understood, was his statement.
The gentlemen suy that they repiesent
oeilnln non-union mine worKeis who
wete not on a strike, .Mr, .Mitchell has
not been asked to disclose thu names nt
the union men; nnd If It were pox-r-hie,
I suppose he bus no objection to giv
ing them, I'll" gmillcmeit who represent
theso other men have been admitted on
the same terms. Jl). Jllclhell represent
d art organized body of workmen. Tha
men topresented by .Mr l.enahan aie nut
organized, We, therefore, requited to
know whom he represented; but lu saying
what wp have, that we cannot be a purty
to withholding any matter connected with
this appeurunie from Ihe public, we ot
com so rely upon the discretion ot couu.
sel that no unfair use shall he made of
those nurnes, or that they be subjerted to
double, reproach or nnythlng of that
kind,
Jlr, Dauow: Oh. no.
Tho Chairman: Otherwlso (he commis
sion would feel that they had been a pal
ly to leflectlng upon innocent people
thtough this means, und subjecting them
to Injustice,
Meiely to Investigate,
Mr. Dauow: Oh. certainly. All the
use I propose to make of these mimes is
to Investigate as to whether these gen
tlemen have hired a lawyer in this cuse.
Mr. J-cnahun: They have lilted two.
Jlr. Dauow; We shall claim iu out
answer that they havo been hired by op-
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jr cywjHNG &
oratotH Instead ot by non-union men, und
thut they hnve come ill heio to repreaenl
operators und not to represent non-union
men.
The Chair rrrurr: We do not Uirow how
that may he; hut we want to i-ay uh to
thut, whether they he hired lu that way
or not, und whoever priyn tho hill, they
represent tin impottuut element In this
controversy.
.Mr. Dauow: AVo havo no objection to
thai.
The C'lirilimuii: The men would Indi
cate If they ittu represented, unit that
they inn Intel csted lu the tlmllnys ot tills
comml'-yloii,
Jlr, Darrow: Wo havo no objection to
that.
The C'haluuun; We, hue cuiisldeied
this very cuiefully titim nil sides and eu-
deuvoii'd ro do tho ilBht thluii. Wo hna
fell tha Importance of tint sukkchIIoii
thut Mm names ho Kept xviet, hut wo
i mild not consent thut thu commission
fhqiild ho a party to tiro supprc.s'-lon ot
:iti thlitKT Ihut uccius lit fori- rr, or any
mutter of the Identity ot peisous. .t lint
sumo lime, wo did led thut thutu wus u
ceitulu lerrsou for utdilug thai this list
might not he. disclosed, und wo would leol
uuy niuih thu icvpnusihlllly If any huinr
should 1 01110 to these men by reason ot
that diselotne. As thu upplliutlon ivui
made, however, wo hud lu deal wltli It.
At the sumu lime, we ihuutjht that the
commission could not he u party tu sup.
pressing unlhln, cither thu matter of
the triplication, or tint Identity or Ihe per
tons, At tho Hume iluie, wu felt ihu re
sponsibility of their belutj; made public
That responsibility, however, must rest
upon Ihe slmiililei.s of the panics who
made tho application. That does not le
lieo us, though, irom tho feeling of nn
lety ami the hope t'mt theio slull cumo
no harm to any person In uny way from
uuylhlni; that is done before this com
mission. It would dlstiess the coinnils
slim very much If that should hu thu
case.
Now, whether the Kcitlemcu who up
pear for theso so-called non-union woiU
ets, or non-striking workers, nro paid by
one purty or the other seems to tho com
mission entirely Immaterial, if they in
deed represent tho men win." they suy they
repiesent.
Who They Repiesent.
Jlr. Mitchell: Theto Is one thhiB. Mr.
Chulrman, that we want ileal, und that
is thai theso geutlumcn icprescnt only
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cause it acts without disturbing the natural tunc-
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rmuliitr nr ciihct'inr-f. In h nrnre nt
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Near Seal Jackets, In endless variety, from $22. 00 to $50.00
Near Silk Jackets, in Monte Carlo styles, $35.00 to $50.00
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Suits $10 to $35
Monte Carlos .... 15 " 25
Silk Waists 3 " 10
SUk Skirts 10 " 30
Smart Jackets ... 6 " 20
Trimmed Hats ... 2 " 10
Fine Shoes 2 " 5
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manufacturers. We own and operate
That's why competitors are powerless to
for your money as we do.
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the men who worked duilns the Hlilko,
Wo deny that they represent the non
union men. Wu represent the non-union
men to u Rieuter extent, by far, than
they do.
The Clmlimuu: Jlr. Jlltchell, they have
hied their uuthoilty lor thut puiposo,
We lerpilrcd them tu do thai.
.Mr. Jlltchell: 1 want tu say that we
havo thousands of non-union men who
weie 1111 strike und rue paules-
Tlio Clmlimnii: 1 used the woids "iron
strlliluB wmUei.s,"
Jlr. Jlltchell: t under stood you said so.
The Chulimurr; But whoexer thej aie,
they have II led their uuthoilty and it is
thero for jour Inspection,
Mr, Hush bi ought out that the fatal
accidents aiuoiifr the IL',000 Delawute,
l.acltawannu nnd Western mine em
ployes last yeai was three-tenths ot
one per cetrt. of the whole, nnd ashed
Jlr, Jlltchell how thut compared with
the nverago lit the soft coal region.
The witness said he would put In 11b
iuvs later, showing: couipuilsous.
Heading from (he constitution of tho
Illinois .Stutu union, uf the Culled Jllnu
Woikei.s, Jlr, Hoss showed that tho
dlstilct hoard Is einpoweicd (o cuder 11
strike nt will. Mr. Jlltchell explained
again that the cnuttacts In the Illinois
region aie above the union constitution;
I lull cucli contract cuntulus ,1 prol;lori
to the cll'ect that the contract shall pot
ho set aside because of any law or rulo
of the lutthuutfXstuto or local unions,
Jli, Itu.-s ulso tiled to lime It appear
fioiri exccrpls ftom the Illinois union's
constitution that 11 ininei can not work
in thnt stute unless he belongs to the
union, ami can not belong to tho union
until he pays an Initiation fee of JJB.
Sir. Jlltchell said any man can Join the
union, and after he joins he run have
all tho time within reason, half a year,
If he wants It, to pay his Initiation fee.
Jlr, Hoss pointed out thut this gave the
union the power of testi'lciing the out
put, und claimed that because of the
uudeMrablllty otr the patt of the miners
to have loo many men lu the mines. It
wuh a temptation lo them lo exercise
this power,
Jlr. Wolverton began his cross exam
ination by evuurins fiom the witness au
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admission thai he had practically ncr
knowledge of the conditions in tha
Heading companies' mines, except what
he got secnud-lrunded. Following ujt
the discussion regarding the feasibility
of a separate anthracite unlonj-
Hy Jlr. Wolverton:
Q Jlr. .Mitchell, the iiiilhruclto Held,
or the uulluiuite coal In the Uultocl
Stales, Is cont. lined iu uhuut six counties
lu I'onnsylvuula? A. Ye, sir. Q, All
the tegular iiulhiaclle coal',' A, Yes, sir.
Q, The bituminous Held cnxcis a largt
section uf thu fulled Htules! outside off
i'euiislvanlu nearlj cver stateV A,
Vi'c sir-.
Q. Tho 1 'lilted Jlluo Wnrkeis covcr'Tlic
whole, uf this territory of bituminous atirt
autluaiite? A. Ves, sir. t). You aro prcs-.
Idem ot the Tinted Jtlne Workers, nnd
jiiur jurisdiction uMends oer the whola
I'nltcd States? A. Ves, sir-
Q, Ycslcidny )ou suggested that at thn
net annual convention of tho rnltert
Jllno Workers you would suggest an
amendment to the constitution by which
no slilke should be Jiittiigurated In th
anthracite legion unless b tlie, Mites
solely of thu ofllcus of the L'nlted Jllnu
Wuikeis uf Anuuli a lu tin. nntluailla
dlstilct'.' A. If you understood mo that:
way, 1 poslhly did not make mjself;
clear. What I did say, or meant tu
say, was that 1 should recommend tlr.it
our constitution be to amended thut C
a question of u national stiike went un
der discussion ihe Mite ot the. antluacltii
anil bituminous members would be equal;
Unit Is to ray. that one-halt ot thej ioten
would he Mom the aulluacltu tieltl, aud
ouo-half from thu bituminous Held, and
that u striku could not bo inaugurated In
the authiaciie Held l a vote ot tlie bit
uminous member o. They could not Inaug
utate a sttlko in tho unthraclte by q ata.
of the bituminous inembeis und a stilkij
cuuld not be luaiiguiatecl in the bitum
inous by u vato of the nnlhrailte mem
bers.
Q Would It not bo piefcrruble, con
sidering the Mist Interest and the vast;
territory covered b tho Tutted Jllno
Woikeis of Ameilca, that an amendment
to the constitution should be .suggested
that It be divided and ,1 sepawtto oigan
izaliorr formed of the l'nlted Jtlne Work
ers, or whatever name they ilioso to glvi
It, that oiganlzutloii iclatlug to aud hay
ing government of only the anthiacltQ
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