V$1!ii!Prf - am Hft of- JA H j&m$frt'ys!i "T V . f - , UOt .. ti M W i THE SCRAINTON VBIBUNB-TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, i on t jj -M MITCHELL STILL IN THE WITNESS BOX (Continued plnymcnt. Volutins nut vvlutt he con rldereel the Inlntillles of this bi illicit ot unionism, Mr. MnuYcngh naked Mr. Mid hell If ho could t (insistently nek tht conmils'sloii to l'oico the operators to denl villi unionism. Mr. Mitchell wild he knew nothing of this nssoela tlon, Hm rules of the causes which led to the adoption, nud therefore would not cure to nasi upon them, but on the surface, he would nay the associa tion In nutation was not noting in u fair ni. inner. Must Use. Anthracite. Mr. MacVeagh f.pcnt some time In showing tliut 500,000 poor, In the cities r the Atlantic, coast, who must use un iluticltc If theio was ny fuel, arc, to day without mentis or buying It, mid jiolnthiR out that these poor niimhrr tluce limes the members of the anthra cite miners' rank", asked Mr. Mitchell if ho would fmor Increasing the dif ficulty to those people of securing coal by adding to Its cost. Mr. Mitchell re plied IhHt the tost of coal vns entirely regulated by the opetntots, and the ' union, not being consulted In the mat ter, was In no wise responsible. ill. MncVeugh repeated his question in this foim: "Ale jou In fuvor of In sisting In our demands despite the fact that fiOO.OOO poor people will have to deprive themselves of bread to hell) in cold you your demands?" Mr. Mit chell replied that tho miner has a. light to hau living wages tor his Inbor. This. Mr. MucVeagli chui.ictci Jzed as a repetition of the old question, "Am I my liicitlici's keeper'.' which the devil has been Inducing human sel tlhhnehs to ask alwajs thtough the lips, of C'.iln." Taking up the demand that coal lorn panics shall not have authoilly to hlro private guards for their propel tie", J!i. MncVengh nsketl why the ennl companies should thus be disolmlnat orl against. Mr. Mitchell's answer was to the effect that the system had giown jAmetally pernicious and bec.uibo it was only right and proper the legularly constituted uuthoiitlcs of the state should .select the linn who ait to act as guards. In defense of the charge made by Mr. Mitchell that the io.il and Iron pollen were "criminals-," Mr. MacVeagh read the occupations and lepoits on conduct and habits of the men who served as guai ds at the Erie collieries. Thev were clerk". Insprctois, survejor.-, agents, students, farmers, and the like, and only in one or two cases did those w hn bad supervision of thorn hav e oc c.islon to icpoit any misconduct on their pa.it. They Live Here. Questions by Conunissioiici Watkins. developed the fact that eveiy one of these guai ds were men living in this community. Mr. Mitchell insisted that the legular ly constituted authorities weio aniplv capable of piotecting the pioperly of all classes of people In the state. "Mr. Mitchell." said Mr. MacVeagh, with earnestness, "do jou not Know, as well as jou know your name i John Mitchell, that in spite of the constitut ed authoiitlcs of tills state, of this, country, of this ilty, this whole legion has been treated for fhe months to a veritable foretaste of hell'.'" "I don't, know anything of the kind," replied the witness. "Well, ou will know it befoie we aie through with you," declaied Mr. Mac Veagh. The examination then nroteedf-d to the eight-hour-flay question again. Q. I want for a moment to ask jou whether you still adhere to the piopo sition that no one of our emnloes in the mines or about them shall be en titled or allowed to work beyond eight houis, no matter what the purpose of that w oi king may be. If it is not a chniitablo purpose oi a puipos,. of em ergency or something ol that kind' A. I do not ask that tln bonis oi labo: of jour employes be limited at all, ex cept so tar as they aie limited by the decision of the commission, or bv the agieemont tint you might make, lim iting the hom of labor jouielve- Q, But .oii do Insist that that limi tation shall be uniform' A. We iVtvc a unlfoini eight-bout day. An Eight Hour Day. Q Don't you yo a little fuiiher than that'.' I do not mean that jou do si now, but hae you not gone to tills e x tent: "Not moie than eight bouts" jou must excuse me loi being i'tslst .ent about this, hei.tusp the commission is be-ing asked to put what we believe to be tills juke about our necks, and we must examine into the diameter of It befoie thej can intelligently impose, it. AVe lme agieed to abide by it it they do, and we will loyally abide by It: but betoie they put ou upon our back we must know what weight you bring with you: and here is one weight which seems to me so biutnl, so un American, so induteinilble that i ask you again whether you stand hy it: "Not moie than eight houis shall bo woiked In any one day by any mine worker?" A, We flavor a maximum eight-hour day. Q. Do you mean to say that a father w oi king In that mine who believes he has u son that may be pi evident of tho United States and our father had a son that may be Is not at llbeity to work as long as he chooses In oider to help that sou to the position you oc 7V cents a package, (enough for tno icj, a pudding a cake.) Srom pasteboard to pas try in a jiffythe short est of cuts from the shelf to the table. Sood to eat. Al t'ocot sell it, Mtitill-Soule Co , fyiac use, A", ',, make it. none J fiom Pago 1.) cupy today? A. Mr, MacVeagh, your company regulates that now by mak ing u day ten houis. Wc differ with thotn there. Wo say make It eight hours. There Is no disagreement about Inning a maximum number of bonis. We linvp disagreed as to what the max imum shall bp. Wo say eight, they say ten, Q. No, Mr. Mitchell, wo never have accepted, and wc npver will, except tin der the compulsion of this commission, such a pilnclplc as that. Wo will ac cept It, but we will continue to piolcst against It until we aic relieved of It. I say that Mr. Imicoln had a right to witk In the io.il mines of Illinois, If lip had had the ehiitice, fourteen hours ti day, If he wished to do so, to buy another spelling book and another lead er In older to enfranchise the laboilng men ot the world. You say be had not thnt right? A. T havo not said any thing about what Abiahain Lincoln had a right to do. Q. Well, but If ho was a coal minor you say he would not, and theio are Abraham Idncolns in your coal mines today? A. If Abiaham Lincoln was digging coal now, ho would be a. stronger advocate of the eight hour day than 1 am. Did Not limit Himself. Q. That he might be: but he was splitting rails, which was a toleiably aiduous occupation. He did not limit himself to eight houis; and you de mand It,' not only for the men In the mines, but for all the men above the giound as well. Abiaham Lincoln was doing Infinitely haider woik than nine tenths of the men employed about our mines aboe giound. So was Mr. Gar field, when he was as a boy trudging along the path of tho canal, and so was Mr. McKlnley in his early life. I only mention them because they are the three victims of the sort of anarchy which is the curse of this country to day, and the only serious curse affect ing it. Mr. MncVcagh here bi ought out th.it the pxecuthp board of the mlnprs' union has eighteen boft coal and three hard coal members. He- also Inquired, In detail, as to administrative workings of the union, how organisers are em ployed and paid and the assessments levied on membeis. In answer to a. question by Commissioner Watkins as to levies, Mr. Mitchell told that during the stilke he contilbuted $."i4.7r, a month in assessments) to the strikers' cause. Mr. MacVeagh Inquired into the set tlement of the 1300 strike to show that its settlement was bi ought about through the instiuinentallty of the pol iticians, and having, in a way, shown this, made the statement that if It was not for this the strike would not have been settled as it was. r.iiumerating the petty strikes that followed the 1000 settlement, nnd em phasizing the tact that in the Lrie com pany's colliciies in six months follow ing that settlement theie wcie eight stiikes as against one in the twenty. tluee ve.ns preceeding the coming of the United Mine Workeis into this re gion. Mr. MacVeagh asked the w It ness: "Would you not think, natmallv, that the owners of these collieries would hesitate befoie they would wish to con tinue that condition?" Mr. Mitchell replied that the union sought to enter into a working agiee mont with the companies so that it might bo able to pi event just such dif ficulties. Conclusive Condemnation. Mr. MacVeagh pointed to the fact that Illinois has such an agieemont and then alluded to the letter of the Illinois opjiatois lead on Satin day, which ho ch.iracteiizod as the most surpiising and conclusive condemnation of the agi cement that mortal men could pen. "If in a collieiy, when an employee was complained of foi inefficiency and laxity, he said to the leptesentatlve of the employer, 'You go to helll' John Mitchell is my boss Would not that Intel fete with efficiency. In jour judg ment, il that t-pliit existed to any ex tent.'" asked Mr. MacVeagh. "I should say," s.Uil Mr. Mitchell, thai it any man said that, that partic ular man a. in the wiong, and if I had known that he said so, I would be the Hi st to tell him." Mr. Mltohel' explained the letter of the Illinois association letened to above saying It was wiltten by the operatois" cominisfioiier. Mi. Jusil, at his sugges tion, that he might tiansinit the oper atoi.s' complaints in a toicible way to the mlnei.s. "Tin lettti Is very much oveidiawn in consequence of this pui pose," said Mr. Mitchell. Then Mr. Mitchell proceeded to make a Plea- for the recognition ot the union by the anthiaelte opeiatou, Tn no speech, or other public uttei ance has he dlsplnyed such earnestness or eloquence, ns he displayed when ho biolte toith In this appeal. Deserting his usually unlmpassioned, placid, com posed manner, he leaned out far In his chair and with the Index finger of his right hand testing in the palm of his left hand, which was extended befoie him, aigued with all the persuasive loroe he could command for the lecog nltiou which he hud declaied, previous ly, was not a pai amount Issue, Ills woids and manner would have lltted a man pleading for his life. "Tiade agreements," said he. "have pi evented these local disputes, these local strikes, against which our union It, 000,000 fackaget soldut thi Uniltd Slates hit j tar. Valuable piemtum list o"l$t,T Roger fiiet." silieruare enclosed. is as much opposed as any ot tho coal operators can bo, Wc do not want them. They Injure us all, Supposing wo ,do not havo a trade agreement. Supposing that Is not the result ot this Investigation, and the nwnrd of the commission, the union will still be heif. It Is not within my power or the power of the coat companies', nor the province of the commission, nor Is it posslhlp to leglslatp men out of the union unless they want to go. Union Will Bo Hcic. "Tho union will bo help. It will have all the power for good or evil that II has now. The coal opera tots, if they desire to, could not crush the union. They cannot wipe it out. I hope they would never try to do it. Then It Is going to stay hole. As long as it Is going to bo hcic, why not havo an ar rangement that will place limitations on Its powpr as far as the pffect of the discipline of a working force Is con cerned? Let us agrpe in contract what these powcis shall be, and I dine say that If our union vlolatos tho contract, the people of this country will tuko good care that wc have no union left. There will bp no question about that, and If tho operators violate It, the peo ple of the United States will see that they regret It. That 1b my view of the situation. I think we will not have the very things that you complain or, and the things that I complain of too. Wi ought to agree not to do those things." "So far, we aru in hearty agi cement," said Mr. MacVeagh, "except as to the method of reaching thnt lesult. If anybody ever attempts to douj- to an American wnrklngman the light to as sotlato himself with other woiklng men, and bo mpresentcd in collective bargaining by you nnd thej' could not get nnv bettor representative or by Mr. Nichols, or anybody they choose to sclent, you may call upon mo to stand side by side with you in opposing such legislation. But my objection is that that Is one question, nnd my question is not answered at all by your expla nation, though you undoubtedly intend ed to answer it. Let me read the cru clal point of the question: "Wo uto fiequentlj- nsked why we do not dls chaige such offenders. I will reply that it is well-nigh impossible to dlschaigp a miner in the Illinois mine, without laying the mine idle in which the of fender has been employed. To dis charge a member of your union and this Is addressed to John Mitchell, pres ident of the United Mine Workeis of America for any cause, gives oftense, pven when his offense Is admitted, which the minors very generally resent. This being the case, your organization must find the remedy for the tioublc, the owners of the mines themselves being powerless to ait." Mr. Justi to Testify. Chairman Giay stated that It was the Intention of the commission to invite Air. Justi to give testimony as to con ditions in Illinois. Mr. Jutl is the commissioner of the Illinois Coal Opei ators' association. Mr. Mitchell pio oked laughter by describing him to Judge Gray as "the agitator of the op erators' union." Some interesting exihanges took place in a discussion of the boj'cotting question, as will bo noted fiom the following: ISy Mi. MacVeagh: Q. Wo han had onlj- two iadlc.il and ii- reconcllable ditTcicnccs: The limitation o the hours ot labor upon the men desiiinf, to work longer, and the light to employ such people as tho owneis of property thlnlc fit to icslst unlawful attack upon them. Now wc come to the third weapon, nnd perhaps the most objectlonablo fea ture which results irom your organisation and in saying that I do not mean to siy that jou cause It, or that any other gen tleman in it causes It I say that It flows from the present temper or jour oigam atlon as water runs down hill. You im deitook to explain jour altitude about boycotting, and I could not quite umlci stand jou, and jpt j-ou weio vei- liuid. as jou alwajs aie. Will jou plcae tell mo what are the lights of a man who does not wish to woik in one ot om collieues.it tho wages we aio willing to pay him, against another man (and the mumbeis of his familj-) who does wish to won; in oiu col lieries at the wagis we aie willing to pay him.' A. We legaid him as an unfair woiker. We think tho mm is blind to bis own in tciests We think ho is loining toicts with the emplojer to defeat the fair ends ot thoso who go on stiike. In other words, he is usually teimert by the woik lng people and others, a "scab." ej. Now, Mr. Mitchell, do jou know that I Just as honestly think join piesent or ganisation and jour Influence in it, and our inullenee with thu coiiuliv is lu jtuloiis to the ti ue inteiests of tho woik lng cases, but I should always despise mjself If 1 went aiound sajing: "John Mitchell Is a scab." Why should jou say that of me? A. I should not say it of jou, Mi. MuuVeagh, because you would not take another man's job wlun be was on a. stilke. (.Laughtei.) Why Call a Man Scab. Q, I am not talking about that. Whv should jou call a man a "scab" who dlt teis from hb follow woikmen as to tho wisdom of continuing to cam a living lor himself under such condition as ho thinks uio leasonable, een though he may bo mistaken In that opinion if jou choo-e? A. It is simply a genet al appellation for eveiy man who woiks when another one Is on stilke. lie Is looked upon and I think Justly, in the same light that nuic olet Arnold was looked upon, or any tialtoi. Q. Why should jou call mc "scab," If 1 pieter to woik, to continue to cam my ltlng lather than to loso niy wages lor flvo months? A. Beeauso that Is tho gen Cial teim that applies to that class of men who deseit theli fellow workeis and seek to destroy tho objects of their movements. O. Suppose I continued at tho lawiul occupation I had theretotoio been put su ing at wages which had been satlafactoiy to mo beforo the oignnlzeis appealed, what ate tho limits of tho tteatment you would fool justified in extending to mo, You say you would call mo ,i "scab" I must bear that as well as I can. What else? A, That Is all. (l.augbtoi ) Q. It, as a matter of fact. In conse. quern o of the eruption of our organisa tion In this district, a strlko wero de daied and opprobrious epithets mo burled at people because thev aio eci clslng a lawful light In n lawful manner, do jou not think the Influonce of jour organization Is evil? A. No; I do not think so. ,lt Is not u. consequence of our orgnnlzalion. Q, Docs it follow- when jour oiganlrntlon duo not cMst? A, Such things will follow the organisation, tho same as outrages followed tho Anny of the Potomac as It went down South, Tho I'nllcd States goerninent was not spnnslblo for the atrotltles, or tho w longs, that followed In tho wako of the armv. I know that In all gieat inoe incuts, regardless of their character, IIitc Is a certain clement that Is not dliceted bj tho movement It.clf, and that (ontnlns men who do things that the increment Itself docs not stand for, Q. No; but does tho uuNompnt lepiobalo them, as with other gieat criminals? A. It would if It knew them, If It wcie tho agency that should do it and would do it, but, In tho case you speak of now, if them is any tolatltm of tho law In the treatment of tho noiiunIouIsls, or scabs, lo-callcd bv the unionists, thej- have le-drct-s In the courts. Wo do not seek to sae our peoplo from desened punish, nipiit. Wc havo no way of regulating tho Individual acts of our mcnibciu . About Boycotting. Q. No, no. Mr, Mitchell; do itot misuii. tlerstand mc. I am asking jou for jour judgment as the head of this organlsa-. lion, of bojcottlng. I understand you to say that yml accepted It, lit part, the other day, and I want to know how- far? A. I bcllcv that they have the right to exeicho tho tights given them by the courts and hy tho laws, 0, lln. It rvrr been decided In any court that they lt.i a rlchl? A, To bojcotl? (J, To boytcolt, A, Yp, I think sot I think there lmn been qillto a number of decisions which hold thnt bojcottlng Is not Illegal. I nnt not able to give the decisions off hand, Q. Haven't you seen In the newspapers beeauso you lend Ilia newspapers, and ought to iccent elrcl'lons In ihiglnml; t think theio aro two of them, In which Individuals lime born hold til be tespoit slble for consequences, for ilniungos, to a ery great extent tcsultlng ttoni boy cotting' A, 1 luio reference to decisions of American com Is. Q. Vcty well, Is thcro any American court that has ever Instilled what you call, what we mean Hy bojrottlug, as jou dcscilbed It tho other elavi and, If so, t would be eiv glnd te havo Mr. Dar row answer. Ho will answer that ques tion better than ,vou will; j-ou terminated your Icsnl studies too cntlj'. You saj tbat bojcottlng is simply a strike. You do not mean that do jou. A. Yc, I mean It Is u stilke. It In a refusal of people to spend moncv at cet tain, places, to patroiilo coitnlii people; It K In ef fect, ii strike against a mcichatit. It might be against a man holding a public office-, a icfusal to patronize htm. Q. Suppose a grocery store keeper hns a license to conduct a grocerj- store. Do you wiv bo bus any right, legal or moral, to decline to sell to mo because I am pursuing a lawful occupation, against which you protest? A. Well, I do not know what tho law Is In Its application to stoic keepers; I do not know whether they luuo tho right to sell to whom they please. Q. Do jou think jou have n moial right to tell him not to sell tn my wlto because I nni puisulng a lawful oc cupation in a lawful manner A. No; but I hue n right to tell him that I do not piopose to deal with him any more. Q. That Is j-ottr pil liege, but If vott eoii'plio with tluee or four other men to do that, then you aro applying a terror ism to iilm. which ou still think you havo a right to do, do von? A. I think that a man has a. legal light to spend hW money whercwor ho pleases, and be has a right to tell tho mtichanl bis rea sons for . Has the Legal Eight. Q. Has he not tho legal light to woik wheio bo pleases? A. He has a legal right j-os; I think an American hat a legal light to spend his money wherever ho chooses. Q. Has he not a moral right to puisne a lawful occupation In a lawful manner? A. He has not a moral right, if bis work destiovs the hopes and aspirations of his fellow men. Q. Suppose ho thinks be Is helping? A. Ho necr does. (Laughtei). Q Oh, t beg jour paidon, he Is as liable to do that as jou aro to think the other waj-. nut now, jou say jou may Join with other men to notify a store keeper that il ho sells the necessaries of life to a man who Is pei forming his law ful occupation In a lawful manner, that you wilt cease dealing with him? A. I hao the right to tell him tint I will cc.ue dealing with him if I want to, un der any circumstances A. Yes, cs, but bao you a right to tell him jou cease dealing with him beeauso ho is supphing the necessaries of life to any other citizen, jour equal in cerv re spect, who Is puisulng a 1eg.il occupa tion in an lawful manner? A. I say T would icgard It as a. great extreme to deny the storekeeper the right to supply neccfaiics of life to anjonc, and I should not sustain any such action. I do not believe In starving men, oven if thcy are scabs. Q. Do ou think It is an American sjs tem which ought to bo extended upon us, tho owneis of those piopcitles, that when ever a rmlorlty of our woikmen differ fiom a minoilty In opinion as to the bouts of labor or conditions of cmplojment the majoiity shall bo at llbeity to Intimidate, the minoilty and the members of their families Into abandoning their honest con victions on tho sublect? A. It depends entiiely on what jou mean bj- Intimida tion. Q. You know peifertly well what It Is; jou know jou would bo intimidated and jour lamily would bo intimidated if tho gioeeiy man in jour village was notified that be would deal with jou at his pei II; it jour chlldten when they went out of tho gate wero called by this epithet which jou think not commendable but admissi ble: if the wife, when she appealed on tho stieet weio tieated as if she weio a leper that Is Intimidation, nnd wo all know what It is. Now, whv cannot jour or ganization como up like Ameiican men and say that ft is a cowaidly ptnctlce, that it is un-Amet lean, that it Is brutal and unmanly and that jou will abolish it; why cannot j-ou do that; A. Well, to begin with, I should be veij- much opposed to our oigaiiizatlon taking a position that would placo tho non-unionist, tho man who woiked, tho man who sought to de stioy tho hopes and aspltations of tho gieat bulk of the men, tho man who sought to destiov tho hopes of thu chll ehen. on the same piano of lespectabillty as the man who Ilshts for those Ametl. can pilnclplt-s. Intimidation of People. Q, Havo jiiu tlio light to piactice tho covvnidly and immaulv course of Intimi dating me Into abandoning my convictions as to the pmpitety of my woiklng by making the lives of mv wito and chlldien unendiiiablo? That Is tho question. A. It depends on what jou mean by making their lives unenduiable.- Q, You know how thev can bo made mi enduiable: how easy thej- can bo nuitle unenduiablii. Take jour best judgment of what m.rkes a good wife's llfo uueu duiable, and what w lings a fathers heatt to bieaklng by tho tieatment of lilt, rhil dien. You know what It Is; why don't jou stop It.' A.I havo not advised our peoplo to do this thing that you sav; I do not know that they do. Q. Of com. so jou havu not advised them A. I do not know of a case that would lie tho p.uallel of cases tliatou havo cited. Q, if such cases aio shown j-ou until jou aio weary of them, as f will show. will jou then ngtee to tako dtastlc, thorough-going, effectual measiues to loot it out, as jou would any other doadij-, nit-manlj-, un American, cowaidly practice? A. Well. I would havo to know exactly what jou mean. Q Wo will get It? A. Do jou mean that wo propose (J. Very well, jou will got It, A. (Continuing.) That wo ptopoao and advise our peoplo to ask the wives oi tho non-unionists to i.imo and havo tea. that wu reeoivp them with open aims, that they be taken In and becotpo y. Not at all; theio aio lots of non unionists who would not want jou to nii'ddlo with their wives, who would not want j'ou to tako them In j'our aims at all. (Laughter.) 1 mean llguratlvelv, ot i'ouisp, hut jou know what I mean. Ought their res and tlio lives or tnelr wives nnd chlldien to bo mado unendiiiablo? A, I think thoso wives nnd chlldien had bet ter ask their fatheis, Q. That Is jour an- swci A. I think It Is they who have mado tin If lives unoudmnble (3. That Is jour answer? Well, i am glad to havo It No, I nin sony to havo It, Do jou think a phjsician ought to bo win in d not to attend a sick child of a father who Is working foi- his living? A, YOU CAN'T BE ATTRACTIVE An Offenslvo Bieatli and Disgusting Discharges, Duo to catnirh, Blight Millions of Live3 Yearly. 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I havo never heard of such an Instance except tho statements made by a paper of tho chaiacter of tho Now Voik Sun. Q. Do ou mean the good or bad chaiacter ot tho New York Sun'.' A. I mean tlio ex tremely friendly chaiacter of it towaids the union, men. Q. Do you think a clergyman should be prohibited from administering the sacra ment to a non-union woilsman.' A. No, sit; I do not. Q. Do you think a. funeral bhould bo stopped becaut-c tho dtiver of ono of the caniages Is not a member ot the union.' A. No, sh; I do not. Does Not Favor It. Q. Should a physician be intimidated Horn attending his patients because they aio non-unionists? A. He should not, Q. Wo havo hpaid a good deal hero of tho chaiacter of the llto hero and tho desti tution and unfoitunato conditions of tho ehlldion of tho mtuo vvoihers. I want jou to look at a couple of photogiapha pie lhnlnaiy to asking you a iiuestion and whether you think they fahly leptesent tho average attiactlvencKs of Ameiican gills and theio .110 no ghls In tho vvoild more attiactlvc? (Two photos bhown wit ness.) A. Yes, I think so. Q. I will ask ou if vou think gills of that character ought to bo boiotted by being depilved of their employment in tho public schools beeauso their fathom con tinue to help to routrlbuto to tho support of their tamllles'.' A. I piesumo that a public position, such as teacher In tho public schools, Js llku any other public po sition, nnd that citizens of tho city or commonwealth or school dlsttlct havo a peifect light to petition tho dhectora to appoint or dismiss any ono they choose. That Is dono not only by vvoiKmcn, but, i think, Quito often by cmploei.s Uy tho Chalunaii: Q. Is It fair. Jlr, Mitchell? A. To n.sl: for their dismissal becnuso their parents aio working? Q. Yes. A. I should say as a general ptoposltlon, no, that that Is go ing to nn extreme. No labor otgnnlzatiuu advocates that, hut, In addition, it Is falr to say thnt neither ono of thoso glils If she was teaching school and her patents, or her father, was woiklng, would bo an ofllclent teacher; bceuu-o tho ehllilien would not obey licr. That would bo n condition that no ono could coutiol, The chlldien would look upon the teacher ells respectfully, unioitunatelv. biciiifo ot tho fact that tho patent was woiklng dur ing tho sttlko; and tho Inteicst of tho school would bo better subsrived by hav ing bomo ono theto whoso father was not a non-unionist, until things quiotcd down again. That may not bo u good thing Ity Mr. MnoVeagh; Q Would you say that U Is a bad tiling',' A. Nnt tho best thing. Q, What I wanted to ask Is whether jou havo any approbation for visiting a penalty upon tlio glil who teaches school, vvho.so father chcioacs to tenialu at wink, at tho work upon which ho has bun engaged for five jcat.s, wheio sho Is dls. charging her duties acceptably. A. I say that neither 1115 belt nor nty utiluii, so tat as I Know, had ever oneouinged unjthlng of tho kind; that both mjstlf and tlio union, ns such, ns far as f can cprcs Its policies, have declined that over and over again, that our peoplo must obcy tho letter and spirit of tlio liw. 'I lmvo not pleked out ono thing and said they must obey that and not another thing; I havo said they must obey all tho laws. His Duty to Go. Q What is tho proper treatment of ,1 member of .1 rnllltU company who Is or dered out to suppress, vlolcneo during a strike, who Is also a member of a. l.ibor iiiganUatlon.' A. It Is his duty to go. Q. And what Is the iluty of thn labor organisation to whleb he belongs? A. 1 should .iy It has 110 particular duty tu perform In tho matter. Q. SuppoMi thej Atnoi bun,,' A. I should siv that was T3 Pf "j f j " C" ..TA"'A . 'I afA' i. T r t - f ..A.. ,-!. V'Vy :i fftte'SCi beneficial effects it is al- . '&?? A J yV.' R1 -s Wls. 'X jKdSBStm- ..rffefe-fcel PVg:-r iOS'Tfk " - - - ...ff.uf.t .iw L,iw, Ji..- J..a. -. J..u. - .J.' - THE CHILDREN ENJOY Life out of doors and out of the names which they play and the enjoy ment which they receive and tlte efforts which they make, comes the preatcr part of that healthful development which is so essential to tltcir happiness when grown. When a laxative la needed the remedy which is given to them to cleanse and sweeten nnd strengthen the internal organs on which It acts, should be attch as physicians would sanction, because its component parts are known to he wholesome and the remedy itself free from every objectionable quality. 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COME IN AND SEE THEM. Meidrttm, &oti & Co., 126 WYOMING AVENUE. wiong, Q. Therefore, you opposo that unlicsltatliiKl' " A. I my that a member of a labor union should cxotcloo nil tho light, pet fm in all tlio duties, and in cept all tho obligations that any other illUen would. I want to say that vvo li.ivo tlioiifiiniW. buiidtcds, of miners who am tncmheis of tho National tluard-that our meiiilioio who out on duly dining tho Milko; llu'te w.ih no imcbtlon about It Thev gave, pint of their earnings to tho stiike. So wo havo no epiarrcl on Unit, , , , U, You havo no objcilloit whatever, thitelotc, mill ott think It an oultagu fin any labor unluii to expel a member who dues go out In obedience to his elutj. A. As far as I am concerned ntj self, I think each union has a right to Itb own law, to do as it chooses, although I think It Is a bid policy; per.somill.v. I think it Is bad policy I would rather have members of a tiada union un gu.ud than any one clhC Tho i'li.ilrinaii: 'Ibis la vety itupoitant want to get at It Not only us a irado union man would you rather havo members of jour outer In tho militia, If wanted to ptcwrvo law, beeauso they I ml I Mi tf'-M.'JX'L' . M-y'X nun' rin iiiinniitffijflr1 ' JAA.J.i.iJ..Uk - yi my AVr' ."rrs .!Vu.. .. Lf the Company CO. - is printed on -A-. v7 V v&i&J I S3 .75 EACH S3 .75 EACH wcie f i loudly to jou, but ns a eltleu jou do not obieci to their pei forming then public elutj ? 'I ho Witness; Not at nil; no sir, As 1, bald, a, member of a liailc union enlists and ho ought to willingly pcilorni all thu duties ot illUcnshlp: ho ought i,o nicept all their lespwiiblbllliy that (jup with II. em, and tin tindcs union that seeks tu slop that Is wuuig. ' At this JuucUiio rrivss vvas taken un til "! n'cloik Mr. Mitchell rpwunicd thc stnml In tint afternoon and his ex amination by Mr MacVc.lgh. Tim Pr, Itobetts lofetred to In tho succiedcd question sut at the minces' tabic. Quoted Dr. Rohcits. Cj Hero Is , cNtract from a book Vvrit ten' hy a. filend of joins, and I bav6 no doubt a vciy cweilcut nnd carncst-mindi man. Dr rotor Ituhoits You know him.' A Yes, sli. i,'. And ho is n suppottor of join views, commonly bpcaMng. I, tin 'liot mean that bo takes his views from jou, or that jou tako j'our views fiom ICuntinued on I'ugo 5 J:?Ts &F& : V"t A vis -! sV I -.. jffinivHHI- i'"t.t msim r-Hiin W0 . WHETX v yt' ''. . ' JSf,.''" .. "l '.. ij j t , rV.CTy