MMN an - alb 46Se - rye' the peaceeftlie State: - .I read an sided for. While they were tit mail: teTenneti-- 1 account this !Mifflin!' of the mnrch of a rebel. cam- see troops ente red the Sta te, deimitattug the court's pany at Bagdad, in the district of my colleague, tty everywhere, and cutting off all aupplies from ,who are dragging in the Union men of Shelby the families of theme!) iirthe Union tinny. Not connty, Kentucky, to make them take an oath toI witlistamling their unprotected condition,the pen. support Davis's' government:. _'A few men were pie in my section of. the State remained true in 'sent to take them; butthey werenatitrongenough, their loyalty; and, without instituting invidious -and had to call for reinforcements. I suspect there comparisons, I may safely say that no part of the is fightinent IJagdad nowltetween the rebel forces State has organized more troops and sent 'them got up there oti the spur of the occasion'and the forth to preserve Kentuckyin.ber position in this few. troops brought from Louisville., . ' Union, under the Constitution of the Republic. • • The force now asked for is to be used as anaid At camp Wild Cat, with-the assistance of two to the main body; and although it is to be enlisted or three Ohio regiments and onel Milan(' regithent, for twelve mondittonly, thrideit is that Kentuc- we encountered 'General Zollicoffer with litsarmy Bans Will not atop to say that their time is ex- Of seven thousand. The victory, on ourpart was pired, and that they will go home. ' I will pledge omplete. The enemy:abandoned his encamp tny honor to myfriend from Illinois that-he need `bent and fled froid the State.' not be afraid of a negro instruction in the State 'No sooher win that done than General Thomas, of Kentucky. 'We will take care of our servants the commanding Officer 'in that ,vicinity of Ken there, if he will only just let them alone. lucky, believing that there was' no necessity for Mr. STEVENS. I rise for the purpose of mat- retaining the forces longer.at, camp Wild Cat,' ins the reason why I must vote against this bill. 'withdrew them for the purtiorie of strengthening • It II estimated for by no Department of the Gov- the Union army in another portion of the State. enurient." It iscalled for by no Department of the When the withdrawal had taken_ phted, howeVer, Government. - I think that if this House mean the same forectrwhieh first/inputted upon our soil thatthe ste,ahall be carried on to a successful suddenly returned and recommenced the work of termination, it must be done in such an econom- devastaiion in our contitty;. And to such an ex; ical manner as that the people shall not become tent have they carried the work that the families alarmed, and that it shalt not have to be• isban- of Union men inthat portion of the State arc left dotted before it isfinished. The only way to guard wholly'unprovided for the coming winter, against that is to useeconomy, and to strain the Is there then ma necessity to protect Kentucky?' • expenditures of the Government within all possi- She is a border .State. She is to be the battle , : tile bounds, consistent with -carrying it on prop- field of the coming contest, Which may take place" erly., . at any hour. She has been known in the past as Now, sir, the House ought to know something "the dark and bloody ground,"zunl in the future, about what if - will be called upon to appropriate, and-that not far distant, she is promised-to Rave according to the estimates sent to us. Thetorn. that appellation renewed upon her soil. 'We want mince of Ways and Meatus will have to.report a a force to defend that border-State in this warfare. deficiency bill, even after Cotigress appropriating , When' your armies pais over her border, con- 0,318,000,M0 last July. We shall - have to appro- quoting, as they go, into Tennessee—and I believe .priate frOm one hundred and sixty to two lium; they will be in Tennessee in the next ten days-- sired and fourteen million dollars more to make there will be left opportunity Tor.maniudieg par- up the deficiencies for this fiscal year.. We shall ties to Invade Os and to devastate and destroyour also ha ye to reporta billmaking eji appropriation' - property, unless some such Measure an this is of $413,000,000 for nextyear. We will thus have tulopted. To protect that border, which will be -to appropriatemore than six hundred million dol. left unprotected when-the army of the Union has Tara, without the addition ota single dollar beyond left it, we demand 'onlythis pittance, that lien what is estimated for. Now, sir, that in itself is tucky shall be permitted to raise this force herself. alarming. I confess Ido noise° how, unless the It is to protect her own people. That much is due expenses are greatly curtailed, this Government 'at least to Kentucky for her loyalty and, service can •possibly go on over six Months. If we go to the Government, 1 ' re • _ on incasing expenses, as we have been doing; - And in this state of the'ease we ask buclittle: and-as we proposato do by this bill, the finances; Kentucky is as true asany State in this Union; not only of the Government but of the whole coun- and I believe that when you' propose to. vote try must - give way, and the people will be involved against this bill, you ag,ain,spread as it were dew in one general bankruptcy and ruin. . Ii natation over the border'. itlyi district has raised Now what does this bill propose to do? We three regiments forthe Goyernment, and fractional have already in the field an army of six- hialdted companies of a fourth regiinent, constituting one thousand men. I am told that eighty i t seventh part of the force necessary to make upiCen of these are in Kentucky constituting the, corn- tucky's quota of the five hundred thousand men mend of General Buell. If that be not enough, .. votedf or this Nearby Congress. True it is that we it is most remarkable that out of the six hundrt,d commenced eta lite hour, yet when I left home the and sitty thoutand now in the field, enough eannet . consolidation of regiments throughout the State -be spared to guard Kentucky. - I.: had been almost completed, We then had tWbrity ' I lad hoped that Kentucky was not in so muelt six thousand fOur hundred and sixty-two ghllant danger. We had a rose-colored•view of the suite soldiers in the field in the cause of the Union—to of affairs in Kentucky in the President's message. defend and protect Union people. She will with - He informed us that Kentucky had made such alairity send forth the twenty thousand inen asked • progress that she Was now able to take - rare 'of by this bill for home consumption - first, and then • herself: We were told that Missouri was in the for the border contest. When we have driven the same category, and would never more be over- secessionists from our limits, these twenty thou run. We•were bald the sarnething in respect To- sand-then will follow the twenty-Six thousand Matyland. But now it seems to be thought that already in thefield; to fight for the Union any unless there is a continued military occupation of where their services may be needed. 'Will you . Kentucky, when the Army of the country, lies deny us this poor pin/Meer 'We propose to raise driven the enemy from the State, herown cid- this force ourselves, and not to ask for it to be sent „ zens would not be sufficient to'guard her. Sirlif from anothe r , portion of this country . they be not sufficient, let her have as many more And let me tell you, Mr. Speaker, that Ken teoops as she callator. In God's name, I would lucky is true and loyal to the Government and to , not expose Kentucky to any danger. I had never the Union tinder anysircumstances. She cannot supposed there was any such danger there as that be-driven out of this Union. ,She intends to re suggested by the gentleman from Illinois, [MC. main true and loyal- She was the first State that Lovr.soir.] flit if there be any danger t ahnt the joined the Union after the formaton of the' Con troopathere are not sufficient to guard the State stitution, and she will be the last' to leave it.-We after the enemy has been driven off, let the Gt- only ask the help of the Govermnent to protect us niri ernment order just as many re' as.Kentue ,y - in this emergency, and in orderto preserve our *requires. I can well understand how, if the troops identity in thiS Union. are withdrawn, there will be an immediate rising Mr. DIVEN. Mr. Speaker, I wish to-advert of the rebels there. I have no doubt that if our briefly to the argument employed by the gentle- Army were to be from Maryland; OM man from 'Pennsylvania [Mr. SievEiss] against would be thrown into secession in a week. Lie this bill—that' is, in reference to the enormous nothelieve anything aboutihe loyalty . oftheMary- - expenses that this country is incurring, and his - land people. Ido not know how it is thatMidy- unwillingness to'add to that exnenscunder any land has seven regiments in the service of the contingency. Sir; this country is advdneed too United States and none in the rebel service; 'lido far in this war to recede. It will not do to make not understand where the President gets his filets . ottleulations as to.whetherthe expenses now run which he states in this respect. I believe he has ring against the Government can be endured for been misled.' I believe he is laboring under, tt, two or three years.. The expenses that are rolling hallucination' of mind upon this subject, aS fandris up daily and montly must be tenninated ? How • thatotSamsonunder the manipulations of,Delatth. terminaied ? By withdrawing our troops, dis- But, sir, as I said before, if they waht rriore banding our armies, and givingtip this struggle % troops in Kentucky, let more be sent. I tinder- Who would Akita terminate this expense? No, stand there are six hundred and sixty thousit r ad sir, that is not the way. There is but one determ men under arms somewhere. I do not kdow ination as.to the manner inwhich this expense where they are. Ido not see their 'footateps'?: I Shan be abridged. , lt is by going through with 'do not see their tracks. I know they are lying what' we have Undrtaken. Tins rebellion must . about somewhere, where they, can be very Well be put down, and put down speedily, or it will spared. They are doing nothing. Let there be wear out the resources of the country. In deeid • sent into. Kentucky to guard the country there ing, therefore, whether I will vote for this addi while nor troops are marching beyond that State. donut expense or not, I will be controlled- by the But now we are asked that a novel kind of force fact whether thisrebellion will sooner be put down' shall be raised of twenty thousand 'men. Wd tire by my giving than by my withholding my 'vote. asked that the President shall exercise over them •Let it be made apparent that by this , additional a power, which by the . Conatitittion is conferred force in Kentucky this rebellion can be subdued . alone upon Congress, to impose rules and regu- one. 'month sooner than by withholding it, and it lotions in regard tothe composition of that farce, can be shown that no better economyeati be em that he may convert. these twenty thousand Oen ployed tharrby the expenditure,Of this money in front infantry , to mounted rifles. Do gentlemen- Kentucky. Suppose it will be $.10,000,000 addi know what those twenty thousand men wilheost tional 'expense, or f0,000,4i00, and that it willend _the Goternmeut for a year.? If they are infantry, this rebellion one month sooner, why we-will then they will cost $20,000,000; If they are moaned • save $30,100,000, for I believe; that the current men, you.all know, who are familiar with thh op; expenditures of the Government are 330,000,000 erations of this Government, that a re,gimerit of a month. The question with use is, whether the mounted men costs $1,5004100 a year. I aaKthis granting this further 'appropriiition to raise this ..-Ifouieif they are prepsred-'o add to the butdens increase of our Army will- hasten-one hour the their constituents now haVe,upYr(them;and Which crushing out of this rebellion. It will notdo, sir,. _ they must bear, twenty or dully - Million Others for,men to stop to Study their arithmetic in order. a year more, unless there is some imperative to determine whether we caneildure this expense. necessity for it? I cannot do is. Unless stfch a - forfive years: We must not 'continue this war ' necessity be shown; I cannot vote for this Val. for one year longer. II must he ended within the Asl said before, there is no call by the Admin. next six months, and every effort that is neces istratiod for these troops. I do not doubt ii_vhat sary for the country to putforth to end it speedily - the gentlenian from Kentucky [Mr. WICLI,IITE] must be put forth. says is true as to die statement made to hirn re- Mr. BINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I. have no • specting the views of the War Departmen4nd I desire to obstruct - the passage of the bill. I move, am notblaming him for asking tune passage cif this however, in ,order to obviate one objection which bill; but if the Department require these - tWenty has been urgid against this bill, to strike out the thousand additional troops - let them send a fequi- word " - temporarily," in the tenth litiO Of the first sition here shOwing there is a necessity for them, section. ' .- •-•- and for adding twenty or thirty million dollars to ... The SPEAKER. The amendment is not now . our annual expenses, and to the public bui - `dens, in order, except by unanimous consent. .1 and I shall reluctantly vote for it. But untifthen, Mr. BINGHAM. There will be no objection although I have the highest respect for the 'gen- to it when I have made an explanation. ' , tleman from Kentucky, and for the Committee Objection wris made. . . on Military Affairs, yet I cannot vote oneldollar The SPEAKER. The bill has been engrossed, •_for another troop to be raised beyond thesii hun- and read the third time, and the question now is 1 dred and sixty thousand now in the field until the nn its.passage. ' ''' necessity is shown by some one further than it Mr. LOVEJOY. Mr. Speaker, although •I' has yet been'shown. While lam reluctant to vote thought this bill objectionable when I first heard against any_ bill which the gentleman- frotri.Ken; it, yet I hesitated to oppose it as it °centred tome tueky desires, 1-canriot bring it within the dine of that it might look as though I was opposing it duty, as I regard it, to vote for this bill. If lle will because -it happened to come from a slave Suite. urge the Department and the Commander:ittiChief In regard to the remark of . the gentleman frOm ! to send troops-now in service into his Statell hope Kentucky, it- reminds me of Sterne, who called 1 they will gratify him, and I haye -an douht they the papal question his Cheshire cheese. .He said I will gratify him. I have no doubt his reeontmend- that whenever he was hard up for the close of a ations will hive that -.potency which they aught ,sermon, as he could always eke out a seant.din to have. But for Heaven'a sake - do not let us go ner by Cheshire cheese and brown bread, so he on piling mountains upon mountains of dilit and could always finish a sermon, by a fling at the taxation, until the nation itself is finally destroyed Papists: When these gentlemen on the otherside in the operations pf this war.- i • - are hard:pushed for an argum '-it, they-have a sneer Mr.' DUNLA'. -I desire, in the few Words I •for the negro., [Laughter.] :But it has no terror shall utter on the present occasion, to speak in for me. It has been tried once or twice this ses behalf of Kentucky also. The, gentleman from Mon. It has been tried ever since I have been a Illinois [Mr. Lovr...ms] took occasion to allude to member upon this floor; and I say to the gentle - KentuCky's neutrality in a-manner whieh indi- men as the old Roman said: 4 4. Contempri Catilime cated that that neutrality was not of a loyal char- gladios; non pertimescant thoi." I have feught actor. I desireto nay to him, and to this -louse,,. this from the bottom'. I have, met these questions that die Union men of Kentucky, who hays twice before the people, arid I thank God that I-am not in the last summer voted, by a very large,inajor- particularly inumidated by any Representative of ity . over all oppOntion in that State, in favor bf thelieeple. I come here with a larger majority maintaining our position within the Unicrin never than,-nine tenths of the gentlemen representing I entertained the idea of such a neutmlityas has slaveholdin,gdistricts have votes.' If' any gentle been attributed to them outside of this Heinle and men expect me to vote to carry on this war in the • upon this floor. The secessionists of Kentucky interest -of thirty thousand ,slaveholdera, as we regarded .the neutrality of that State asl:of this hive administered the Government for more than character; they denied even to the Government' a quarter of a century in the interest of three bun, of the United States the right - to enter upon the dred th ousand, they are mistaken. I will carry soil of the State with an armed force. They -de- on the war to -put doWn rebellion, and slavery dared that any such conduct would be a breach mnst.thke care of itself. • of our nentrality- If the forces of the tio-calted Mr;'WICKLIFFE. But will you let us alone? southern confederacy entered upon our,shil, that, -,- Mr.LOVEJOY. I assure thosegentlemedthat too, would constitute a breach of neutrality in. he so long as they throw out 'these sneers against estimation of the secession party of thatiState. anti-slavery they will_have sneer for sneer, a Ito- The neutrality of the Union men of the State land' fof an Oliver. I hare never stood in awe of never denied the r"'ht of the Government eif the 'the slave-whip, and I never,expect so tremble at United States 10 E.-der upon the soilof Kentucky, it. It it pitiful to court a tin when one should at any time, for the purpose of protecticin, carrer present an argument: 1 will say to the g,entleman thepurpose of sustaining the Government'. When from Kentucky that I was at Bull Run, but I 'aid the camp - within my own couity—cotim Dick' notrun. - ' Robinson—was organized, it was -organized by Mr . :WICKLIFFE. I did not charge theg,en ; the forces of the General Government, di be sus- tleman with running, I 'only said lie was there. tanned by the General Government for thepurpose Mr: LOVEJOY. . Yes, sir, I was there; and it of maintaining Kentucky in the Union tia one of was not for the want of soldiers that 'Wc .did not these States., 1., ' succeed, for our soldiers, fought well.. It was for . Mr. Speaker, lam attemptin g to represent thd the reason that some of our officers were.not corn sixth congreasional distrietof hentucky,;h_distriet petent, and one of them was drunk, so that the which constitutes one seventh the temtniyof the soldiers were not brought - into action.• • General State, although the population is sparsein every Richardson made thisleharge; and what was the portion of it. We border upon the CuMberland finding of the cOurt4narttal? The Snit finding -Gap. At that point General Zolfieoffer ' with was; that General Richardson was justified in seven .thousand Tennessee troops, entered upon tanking the charge or statement - tut to drunken= the soil of Kentucky, devastating the country as ness; second, that they ?mind no 'evidence that he passed, thro u gh tt; i. But before he hrid pained ,the offieer was drunk; and thirdly,. having nothrie the Gap the citizens of,my district-bad sent forth to pursue the investigation. furthelr, they recom to camp Dick Robinson a regiment Of Men, tear- mended'that the court-martial be indefinitely post- ng thew families unprotected and but scantily pro: Ironed. . ' • - • 1. : . . • _ • it ' , ale a 0- igT .• ,'• itiste'!;ktit or arguntent which has not:been an' swereil;'and dint is, that we have force enough Withulit raising any additional force. We already have soldiers enough to pface in Kentucky; and to perform-the service contemplated .in 'dila bill.. Thaistatement has not been controverted,. The question then comes bock, why raise twenty thou sand additional soldiers when you' do not need there ?' The question has not been answered, and it cannot lie answered, Perhaps - I dO not under- Stand the provisions of this bill; but it soya," to be Oniployed within the limits of Kentucky, in repellinglnvasion, suppressing insurrection, and guarding and protecutig the public.priverty." I would like to ask the gentlemah front Kentucky froni whom this insurrection in Kentucky is an ticipated? What class of men in that State is it expected will get up this insurrection? Mr, WICKLIFFE.. \Shall lanover the -gen tleman now? . Mr. LOVEJOY. Yes, sir: Mr. WICKLIFFE: I expect that, the same spirit...that has got up an insurrection everywhere., will still continue to do so in-Kentucky..Besides that, we waut to keep out insucrocttonisti3 that come from ether States. • - • . _ . Mr. LOVEJOY. I ask the gentleman Whether tiny such have invaded the State? - • m r . IVICKLIFFE. I have already stated that nine thousand men under one leader, and some thing like three thousand under another, have: already' invaded the :State. - In this statement I exclude those now on the south side of the G teen river. I stated that the same region of coup=' try oter which General Nelson drove Williams's command, is said now to bo invaded by Virginia troops and Kentucky-secessionists, united. Mr. LOVEJOY. -Still it.seems to melba this is simply a police force fOr Kentucky, for the lan guage is, suppressing insurrection, and guarding and protecting public property."; I suppose that dOes not mean tigt ploperty of the United States, nor the property ol‘he-State of Kentucky; but the 'property individuids -all over the State. Now we cannot undertake to place a soldier to Suaril every item of property all over the United lates. Thirty thousand men were recalled from southwestern Missouri on-the very ground that We could not-guard the property of every Union, Man in Missouri; ainl that the services of those soldiers were needed, for , fighting these content plated battlei in Kentucky. But -there is another objection to the bill, and that is, that nt the discretion of the commander this arce may be turned into mounted riflemen.. It can be transformed into that arm of the =Vice which, as we all know, is the most' expensive, and of which . we-have a superabundance @ready. But I will not prolong this debate. • Whatever gentlemen may suppose,'l have no feeling what ever upon . this subject. lam ready to guard Old protect every true loyal man; every man any where who loves the-Union more than he loves slavery. lam willing to extend to thein the pro tection of all. the power of the United. States, 'whether in Kentucky, Missouri, or any other Suite.. I am willing to Tote ,in good faith-all-the men aq all the !honey needed• to,put down this rebellion; but I ani not willing to voresAooo,ooo to raise twenty thousand men who are not needed, and when-we have even more men already than we know what to',do*ith, and when we can take teenty thousand fromihis city and place them in ;Kentucky without missing them. We all know that the city is overflowing with soldiers. Let 'some of these men be,tmnsferred into Kentucky or elsewhere. , • ' , • Mr. WRIGHT. This bill ha's received the thorough attention and investigation of the Corn 'mittee on Military Affairs. fpt is no project of law sent in 'at a hazard. It was introduced by the gentleman from Kentucky, [Mr. WicatarrE,] and referred to the Committee on Mili tat* Affairs. 'Now, while-I do not pretend to say that because , a measure comes from the hands of a committee it must necessarily pass,that fact certainly does furnish to the House at least one reason Why we ought to consider a bill thus presented... As this bill was originally offered by the gentleman from Kentucky, it did, as stated by the gentleman from Illinois, partake in a great measure of the char acter of a polide measure for the protection of the State of Kentucky; . Mit because it did contain those features, the Committee on Military Affairs raised.objections,to it, and' they would not report it to this:House unless.it had incorporated in it ti provision by which that force might be used in the regular service whenever the commanding general of the force should think it expedientand proper. Therefore the troops raised will partake not only of the character of a police regulation for the protection of the people of. Kentucky; but it will also be auxiliary-to the Army of the United States, and can be used as such. 'The gentle - man Who originally.offered this bill to the trairie — litri. cepted •t that modification. It wagearefully consid ered, and the bill comes here'niu from a majority of the committee; but by the unanimouti vote of the cornmittee. And it conies here for what I regard - As, the very best of reasons;. and that is, that the Government shall not call upon-the bor der State of Kentucky to furnish twenty-seven thousand men to fill up the ranks of the, regular Army, and take them out of the State, und•thus deprive them at home of the power of protecting th - miselves, from inroads made by internal and evernal foes. Kentucky has behaved throughout th% whole contest with great magnanimity as well 'as loyalty. She has not only furnished her full quota- of men for the regular service, but I am informed that her Legislature has also assumed her quota of the public.money to beraised under the tax law which passed during the, last session of Congress. I ant so informed., and if riot correct I wish to be set right. Having then furnished her full quota of.men, and assumed to pay her full share — ol - tHe: public burdens in the way - of taxa tion, and there being a probability; as'the gentle man.from Kentucky says, that her territory will be the great batile-ground of this war, is there any good, st.und• reason why She should not have the privilege of ra,ising twenty thousand men of her own people, from her Own borders, to meet the great emergency which may arise during the prog ress Of this war. • It is true that the men raised under the pro': visions of this bill. arc not to be calledinto thd regular service unless:that service requires them; but if the great battle which is to deterinine the question 'whether the Government is to e..ist or not, is to be fought in Kentucky or in the vicinity oI Kentucky, 1 think- the time may come when we shall be very glad 'to avail ourselves of this force raised by Kentucky, and composed of the kind and character of men that we learn it is to be, the flower of the youth of the State. .KentuckY, from her border position, unless she is fully and thoroughly protected, may. be in the position that Virginia occupies toddy in regard to.the General Government, and I do not believe that there is a loyal man within the sound .of my viiiice in this Hall who would wish to see the sod of Kentucky trampled upon and laid waste to the saute extent that the soil of Virginia is t.oLday ;and while the one has a claim to your consideration, the Other, as to a portion of her territory at least,has but a doubtful title to any such claim to- consideration. Virginia has forfeited, by her bad faith to this Government, that protection which, under other. circumstances, she might, have had a right to de mand. She'has followed her idols, and they have led her'to unutterable ruin. . ' The bill does not provide, let me say, for the raising of twenty thousand men, but for a number not to exceed .twenty thousand. It may be ten or fifteen thousand, orany number - short of twenty' thousand, and that, as I understand it, is to'be left to the discretion of the Legislature of Kentucky; or, perhaps, of this Government. . • IVow, Mr. SpeCker, Kentucky having assumed she ,rinsition that she has assumed in this great struggle-that engages all our. attention and enlists' All our feelings, shall we deny'her this boon when she offers to send her,own sons into the service% The gentleman from Illinois [Me. LOvniovj says that we are getting too many men mustered into the service. .Sir, we may, perhaps,require, be before'we are through with a, doubl the number of men we have now; and when these men cati o, be brought into the service by voluntary enlist ment; how much better it is than to resort to a conscription or levy to bring-men into the field. At one-period, for a whole month, the Executive of Pennsylvania supposed that wo.would have to resort to a draft in Pennsylvania in order to make up our quota of troops. The times since then,: have changed. The war has been carried vigor- , ously on ; upon the borders. It is true that our army . of two hundred thousand encamped in the vicinity of this city is holding the secession (limy. here in check, andthe-enemy dare not leave their position as long as McClellan's marshaled hosts remain here. It is true that we have somewhat changed (Mr plans, Wehave sent our fleetsupon tho ocean. We have made conquests *upon the Boast. We have made an effort to send our er msiwint down the Missisiippi. These acts haye given courage find hope to the country; and men have rushed it the ranks, so that the day has pantad in my opinion, when we shall have to resort to a conscription or levy: In this view of things, when you find an army, who. are willing I to - come to your standard without any reso'rt* law or to any expedient Cifthe.kind, tell me upon I whatprinciple will you turmyourbacks upon that army and say we have no service for you? Who „ . that Mir Army is too large?' -.-. - r'.- .' i 54r_. ~OVEJOY.:I would msk the•gentreman 1 • is: if, he it favor of enlisting all the men 'tVho offer their seriier , s - to the United States? ' Mr:WRIGHT. tarn'in faVor of making the Army just•ielarge as will secure to a certainty' the existeneeindlife of this Government, - Mr. , LOVEJOYZ-„Hal -the. gentleman aster taineil the number netemstrYfor that purpose? .• Mr. WRIG HT. Nti,itir; I haVO not that Power, norluts the gentleman frOm Illinois, nor has any lotheer of the DepartMenti,narbati the President, nor any other man or associatiOn, of men,;. - ' Mr. LOVEJOY. The questionstill Cornea back whether, in the opinion of the gentleman, it is best for the House to go !on and enlist without any limit all . who' offer themselves, for that seems to be the argument of the gentleman. If we do not know hoW many we need, must we go on enlist -1 in' an indefinite number?. . ' ' Mr. - WRIGHT: ;.No, sir; I do not propose that the House shall be the general, but the gen tleman from Illinois during- the very last week proposed to substitute this House as the general in command of the Army, and if he has forgotten it, I will tell him how and 'wherein heproposed it. He offered a resolution here 'rescinding one of. the orders that had been made hyGeneral Hal leek, and I suppose upon `the principle that he understood the duties of the campaign better than thecommanding general did himself; ' 'Mi. LOVEJOY.: I think it very possible. r. WRIGHT. Now, sir; Ido not propose. • that the House shall be the general with regard - to the maneuvers of the Army upon the field; but I do propose that the Commons tere, - in their places, shall furnish the ways and means and the men to carry-on the war, That comes within our province. We arc the judges as to what number of men, and What amount of money is-required. ['take it that the members of this House, and of the other branch of Congress,are the sole judges, of that question. . pr S in i c rif this E w ait r itf cP ea ri rs ill i k n 4 r e e t itt 9l r P d 9. t n o l i 6 ts gi rt n i a te lTjou will confine yourself to the, proclamation of Ali - rai= Lincoln; ssued on thd 19th of April last, when 'he made his appeal to the people of this country, saying that he wanted an artny_to put down.numrectioranff ieleellietVnato,pro tect,therights ofplerty_and the rights,guaran tied by theqiiiiinnuttoqistllni.Stateg—if gentle men wnfbui adhere to the princifiles , contained in that. proclamation, there is no - danger with "re gard to the result cif the war; with the number of, troops we now hare in the field. - But if it be the desire and the plan to change the object of the war, i tel .... make ttlt, 'war for emaneipatityp, I can tell those enlreixiiin7y7h - Olilirt , li:e: negro so closely , to their bosoms that they d ' '. the 11411.4 of tb ,, v.ey_ life.,,and.jextetence .ot..t hr. mwernment, itttlL Ido nOl-pretendo say whether the gen tleman from Illinens be of that party or not. If gentlemen will, confine themselves even to the principles -of the 'message which the President sent in at the opening of this session', we need have no fear' with recd to the result; but,-as the gcntlemanfrom limy ark [Mr. ST EEL El observed the other day, Irapeat, if you change - thd object and principle of the war, you paralyze the bravery of the Army; yon present another question; you present a'divided - North and a South united: Tluit would be the aft* of such athange of poliey. , ..j;,t is a war for - tlic supremacy of the Constitution aralnwrottid- - the-honorrif *Malian:and - tint for the -Malt Ifidicir(of itriyes. -- I :lielievti - thitrit is tine sworn duty. of 'in Government to azeept all the men who offer to_cotne to. our standard_for I •thatptirpose, as these twenty thousand men seek to_enlist under our standard in Kentucky, and tot, make our ranks formidable. I believe that we already, &Lye a well-disciplined Army. - I have confidence in the commanding general i who has been put at the head of this great Army' of six hundred thousand men. I have great con fidenco also in' the generls subordinate to him, I But let the ranks be fills and let it be shown to 5 ( 6 the people of the South, o the men who are en-' gaged in secession, that ur Army is, indeed; "nn army with banners.” That Army, disci plined as it is now being disciplined . ; can march on to the accomplishment of its work, and there ittno power that :can .prevent its • succesanaleres, yoaun&onl , P la eliabiti:litidsay. 4 .htu It itlinarchingfor the c. nci ation _i_Ola_ves in , stead of tine protection Of tof - vernmentarul its COnstitAtton, - This 'Army was called -into 'the field to protect the Government, and when the President issued his, roclamation, hoWnobly did the response come up from all parts of the loyal Suttee to that appeal? Six hundred thousand men - in arms answered within a period of six months; an Army has been brought into the field lar,, ,, er than the great Napoleon ever commended, and as - bravepauilng-.1. L.:111...4......1 that Aszrky. tuna brought into the field, as the proclamation called it into the' field, to-protect the Government, to put down secession, and crush out the rebellion. Let that issue be maintained; and I tell' ou that the destiny of rebellion is sealed; it is.sealed:forever. No, sir, hose whpwouldlormy Ilifechange the4trineiplethe,....war...was inaugurated, for it has assumed nowsuch formid- - ableiliniiiistoni that we must call it a war. That istiow its proper and legitimate naive. It is a war, and one of vast dimensions; and in its-issue is involved the cruise of freedom—of the pciWer of man for Self-goVernment. The time for calling it rebellion has gone by. The time ,for calling it secession has gone by. It is war; and so we must regard it. The dictates of humfinity require that the Goibrnment shalt now . adopt a system in' re- gard to' the exchange of prisoners. • - But I have deviated somewhat from the course -which I intended to pursue when I rose to ad dress the House in regard to the bill introduced by my venerable friend from Kentucky, [Mr. Wtextirrcl . But I have. one word more to say to the House by way of anappeal. When the whole Kentucky delegation—aced I believe every district in the State is represented on this floor— comes forward to press upon Congress the adop tion of this measure, if you turn your back upon them, you do: the great State theyrepresent a [ ,grievous wrong. You turn your back upon your, best friend—a - friend-that stood by you in the darkest period of the rebellion. You do that which prudence, justice, right, end- honor alike forbid. Pass this bill.. It has received-the sanction of the. Military Committee. - lthas the unanimous sup portend recommendation of thoSe ,e , entlemen who represent the State of Kentucky. That is another I reason why it should pass. .1 entertain, the hope that we will hearno moroobjectibns urged against this bill on the ground. of expense or of expe diency, ' Look it in the face as a..truly national measure, for the benefit of a truly notional State. Let us give Kentuaky what she wants in this par ticular, what the Government does not pretend to deny to her, and what I think the gdod sense and generous feeling of this House .will freely grant to her. The honorable and patriotic eourse of her statesmen demands that this boon should be con ceded. She is loyal, and ber.demand for the pro , tection of her; people is-imperative. It must not, it shall not, Ile denied them [the voices of Carr- TENDS); and WICIELIFFE have too often-resounded in there halls, on the side:of the Union and the Constitution to'faltUnheeded and ur6otieed now. The people - of that gallant State have responded nobly to the-demands.of the Government; they Areentided alike to our consideration and our grat- - itude, She is of us and with us; and for.one, I lan ready and willing-to link the destiny of my own native Keystone with the fortunes and chances. of-Kentucky. If it be our destiny to fall-in the great struggle for human liberty ond-republican govermienk so be it. Where the 'loyal men, for the Government and The Constitution are, there it is my hope, to be, and With them may my lot be cast. The bill is righfand just, and no candid, considerate man should cast his vote against it. I'' Mr.:HICKMAN. -There can be no difference of opinion, I apprehend, with regard - to the rights „. 1 of Itiatucki in this-war. She is entitled-to tI. same safeguards as any other State in the Fe.derit : Union; but :she iiientitkd, to no, more. I know . ' of no asoh why the war should .be • conducted , on different Principles or in a different manner in a border. State from those on which the war is conducted-in any Other State. Her people may '. beloyal. . They stand, then, ottan equality with the loyal people of other portions of the anion. They. may be in: danger. So are , the people of other see:lions. lam not willing to accord to her any immunities beyond those which shall be en joyed by any other portion of the American peo ple:. If they. are; loyal, they are no more so. -if they are bound to sustain'the Federal compact, no greater obligation refits on them than restat on others. - : - NOw, sir, my objection to this bill rests mainly on .is single' ground, rind that .is that - bhe requires a different military system and a different military , establishment from that which hail been consti tuted by laW. The President of thh United Sthtes, under his proclamations and messages, hes given to us his adiice, aid we have'acted mainly to ac cordance with the advice thus given. We have raised volunteers to the amount recOmmended by him for the period of three . years, or. during the war. - KentUcky,not differing from other States, las I' apprehend—for I do not conceive that it makes any especial direrence whether the war be waged within the border or within the,middle` States—asks for-herself a system peculiar to hes' . -... - I Li- I;iziiod of yerir; and yo AA at, the s;tote tonr, cowaitute a - portion Orthe Feuersl- Artny ? nr of the, voloincer i Toreen. is also pro vided in this,bili that dn.y shall not he retjuirgti serve Outside the limiti Of the Siete, except tent poritril)i. It is-not ditticu4 to conceive that under the plan here proposed a'differeutSystem is to be set - up:with:reference to,Ahe volunteers in . Aen .top.ity from that.which pieVnils with` reference to other volunteers. .' An inquiry here winild be' very ,natural, as it • strikes me it wouldhe entirely proper, why,shotild Kentucky be separated from other portions of the Union, and. have for - herself a different system? Why - should she not. throw herself, is, the other • Stints of the Union haVe thrown themselves; on 'the Federal Army for the defense; and protection she needs? is there any reasottlor-tlait? Is there any peculiarity in the condition of Kentucky which should give to her that which should not be given - to any other State in the Union? Might.' not - Penitsylvania or'New York or. Maine ask for themselves or for herself that volunteers should be raised'for her people). and confined within her. State limits, excepting that they might be called out temporarily (or service beyondithe border? Mr. WRIGHT: Will my colleague permit me to ask hint a question? Does [he not think there is more -necessity for having a forte for special defenadin the State' f Kentucky than there is in Pennsylvania; which is not a border State? HICKMAT. -- , ram willing to admit that there may be a necessity for a larger military force to be stationed in Kentucky than there is for one to be stationed, in Pennsylvania. - I But the inter rogatory of my colleague does not! reach the ob jection which I make. I inquire of my colleague whether there is a necessity, and if :so what, for a military-system in Kentuckidifferent from - that in Pennsylvania and every. other State? That point lied not - been raised before, as I believe, or at least it certainly has not been answered; and unless my colleague can answer it, he does not answer the objeCtion to, the ' Mr. WRIGHT. I think that-, with lug - col,- leape's permission, I can answer it. [know that, as a general rule, there should be a systein appli cable to all parts of the country. But at the same time the gentleman THUM, be.aware that it is a rule that there are exceptions to all rules; and if ever there was an exception to a rule; it is the case of Kentucky to-day. A border State, she has an enemy within her borders attenipting to destroy, 'not only her:own - government, but the Govern ment which Ootects us all. Therefore I say to my, colleague ; and say it in good raithohat there is a- reason which operator( to-day with regard to Kentucky which has not yet operated with regard to any other State since the commencement of the war. The same state of things 'may have existed in Maryland, or 'may have existed in Missouri. I think my colleague should be satisfied that, I hive answered his question, and that there is force in the answer. - - . Mr. HICKMAN. Mr. Speaker, if Kentucky, by reason of her position, stands in greater peril . than other States, that is an additional reason why thii bill should not pass in its present shape, . If she is in greater peril, there is pore reason why her volunteers - should be raised for the longest period of service. If we in the middle States, who are not ins° much peril,have,on the recommenda tion of the President of the United States, raised our•volunteers for three years, or during the War, tvltat reason is there—what possible reason can my.colleigue urge—why Kentucky, standing on the border; and threatened as she is, should only raise her voltinteers for twelve months, and that they should not be allowed to follow the enemy? If.they "Protect her own firesides, she seems to:be satisfied,' without allowing them to follow the enemy and to'suppress the rebellion. Mr. WRIGHT, With regard to Kentucky, , she has already miffed more than her quota of men for the regular -service, under : the .laws' of Con gress. Mr. HICKMAN. I implink whether it was necessary in any case to raise v4tunteers for three years or during the war? If it, was, and. if Ken tucky:is in peril, I put the queStion again to my colleague—which he !Minot answered—why it is! not necessary to put these Volunteers on precisely the 4anie footing as•.all other volunteers that have been raised..? • Mr.-WRIGHT.' [will answer that question. When the bill was presented to the CoMmittee on Military Affairs it provided that these troops should not be called out of the State. We attach an amendment, and the honorablegentleman iron Kentucky assented to it, that, in the event of an emergency, these troops might be called - out ri the State. i Therefore they. are not regarded arr police force to protect the property and citiien. of Kentucky; but as a foice to be raised to filth the battles-of ths.J.Tnion. Mr. HICKMAN.. That is not in the bill. Mr. WRIGHT,. .1 think the gentleman wit 'And that it is. - . e Mr. HICK-MAN. That-is not in. the bill. Th I language of the bill is not that these troops ma+ be called out of -the State on an emergency; 'in language is that they may he" temporarily with-, drawn from that State. Now sir; that language'. means nothing or it meads everything. What is .",temporarily?" 'la it a week, a month, or slit ' months? By the terms of 'the bill these troops am 1 to be called out for only one year. Who,ther; is CO construe what "temporarily" means? Is It'. to be the commanding general.of the Army, or is it to be the powers of Kentucky ? • . - I Now, sir, 1. come back to the original objection; with which I started; that there is no reason, as I apprehend; that can be urgedhy any getitlem if whyvolunteers thus raised tit ,kentuckv shou l d serve for a different term - from that fOr whh - other volunteers — have been enlisted- - Does nbt every gentleman see, that it will be the cause Of great dissatisfaction to thegreet bulk of the Arnty that the Kentucky -volunteers-are required to ser-e for only twelve months, no matter how long the war may continue, whereas northern menhAr i e been enlisted for the war? - . - - Br - ?hr tint, sir, there arc other objections:. The gen-. tleman from Illinois. (Mr. Iticitantismij Says he ,prefers to draw-men fresh from the workshdps 'and the field; that he has more relianceupon these than on others who have been in the encampmets for a long time. Then I have to say to that g ti i tleman that he ditTers most, essentially from w at I supposed to be. the policy' f the CommanOr in-Chief of our Army. If I understandanything of the reason why this army, is held lime lon the Potomac in perfect inactivity,-as regards he conduct of the war, it is-because the men require training in order to make them soldiers fit for Var. But the - ~,e ntleman from Illinois 'has more co dence in men fresh' from the field and from the . , workshop than those who have been in the encamp meats.-- Well,,sir, suppose it to be a fact—ar d I know but very, little upon the subject,' rely, in the opinionl expreascimon the testimony which has been given—that it requires time to make a sol dief3and a, great detil-of time. Those men brotight fresh from the field and Workshop in Kentuhky forone year will have - been-but educated as soldiers before theiritime will 'expire, and again Kent4ky will be thrown back upon the reder volunteer 'forces for her defense. . • t , ' My colleague (Mr. WatouTlhas resortedmot to argument, - but. to a declaration which I had hoped might 'have been avoided "upon this fibor. It is to this amount: that if this Army Should at any time be used, asl understood him, underlay circumstances, to free negroes from slavery, fyou will helve, demoralized the Army and, impetiled 'the safety of the country. I enter my prtitest here against the truth or soundness of anyeh declaration: h placing id placinegro-slaveryobov - the tu country. It is making the salvation Of ala ery ' superior to and more sacred thein the safety o r the Constitution of the country. Sir; in my , judg rtinent, that than is not'fit to conduct this !war, eithei as chief Executive or ass member of the ;Cabinet or as Commander-in-Chief or as si bor '..dinate officer, who does not place the safety qf the : - :Constitution beyond and inive, immeasuMbly ' 'beyond and above, the safety of negro sla'ery_.. Whenever that sentiment 'shall predomina ' to the United States, as uttered by my colle 9 . ie, then 'American liberty will sleep forever. '4' ere is but one Sentiment which .an American . patriot 'can own; that fa, that the American Constudtkin, the AmericanZnion, and. American institutions, ' are superior, and above everything else, whether local institutions of a peculiar - character or the safety of any local people; . - Mr. BINGHAM. I was not aware tha this ' bill had received itk third'reading. and had, been engrossed ; when I proposed to offer my aMeod ment, nr I should not have attempted to offer it. My object in proposino• *the amendment Was to remove what, to my judgment, is really th 4 only Valid objection that can. e urged,against thb pas . sage of the-bill; mid I suggest it now as th 4 basis of the remark's I propose to make. lain hi favor of the passage of the bill 'when it shall have been. amended. , . I propose, therefore, before I sitdown;t move that the bill be recommitted to the Committee on Military , Affairs, with instructiona to stri e out the word " temporarily;tl in the tenth liner the -first section.. - . Mr. WICKLIFFE. I Orn ,entirely wall)* that • that word shall be strieken out ,by Unanimous :` consent:. • . • ! Mr. 13INGliAM. So I understood, thie gen , ? _ o unitise on 'li. y . ti A .... 80, ; , ...._, , , • h r.,111., Of Musiouri. ` 1;liops ii:itrik be stn ken out.: • I - ,- -- • , - • ' ,r. 111 NG II AM. I 'ask', then, the unanimous coo • cot of the House to ¢trike our tho word ,, tern potiarily," in the tenth line of the firstsection. hir: - LOVEJOY. --lobject. .'- • • , M r. BINGHABOrken, before - submit Li ng on y Motion for_the . p_urPoso of placing the bill in a shape where ilstui be amended, I propose to sub mit. a fei rimarkit for Ithe. purpose of showing "thatovitliptis word atricken.Out, the gentleman owlllinbis in - the bill -condemns - his ow 'Official conduct, in Julyiast , in voting for a bit 'precisely similar in] its legal effect, after strife inc.lllilcfhthhee gentleman iee will per- . t o r n , t w th i e u lti re to FE w mil me; I' ill move to reconsider the vote by which-the bill was ordered to be engrossed and rd a third time. ' th t t purpose: r. - BINGHAM . se I F run willing to yield for e t • . I , rAVIC . KLIFFE. I kthen submit the motion, motion was agreed to; and the question recurred, "Shall the bill be ordered ,to be en grossed and read a third time?" ' LOVEJOY. IS it in order to move to re,6mmit? (The SPEAKER. It would be, but the gentle man from Ohio has the floor. Mr. WICKLIFFE: I now more to amend by striking ouithe word "'temporarily," the tentb Jibe of the first section. . _ . .. . . ._ . fltlr: BINGHAM. iplow, Mr. Speaker, I wish to say, with rill•deference to the honorable chair- Man of the Committee on the Judiciary, [Mr. Ilicsmsx,l that, With! this word stricken out of the bill, it in no respect differs in principle from a)revious bill passed by' this House on the Pal o last July, and which _received the assent both o the gentleman front Pennsyl v ania and of my f p worthy friend from Illinois.-.• This bill is as well g..?‘nirded as that was, touching the objects and pur poses for. which these Wunteers may be called into the field. That bill contains the same phrase ology under which my friend from Illinois (Mr. 4orx.idirj thinks is lurking a power to strike at the rights of the slave, The declared purpose . of that bill and of this is, that the volunteers arc to lie used "for suppressing insurrection, repelling invasion; and protecting the public property."' Thesewords are used in the same sense in each 6f the.bills. • 1 1 Mr. LOVEJOY: I wish to ask the gentleman ivNether that bill referred to any particular State scluotivelyi- - " f . Mr..l3lNGth;lsl. I say there was nothing in principle -different from this bill. That bill pro sided for raising volrinteers'in all the States, and herefore included gentucky. 'lt, authorized the' resident of the United . States to accept and or anize volunteers in . Kentucky.or any other State or a period of twelve months—that is to say for a period riot exceeding three years nor leo than 1 six months—for jhe purpose of suppressing in isurrectiOn, repelling invasion, and protecting the public property ,either in Kentucky or elsewhere. I make this remark:as well in answer to the gen tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Hickman] as to the` gentleman from Illinois, [Mr. Loverov.l ilicit; air, was the provision of the act of the ,tltl I July, Which-received the votes ofthe se gentlemen. This hill, now so much opposed, will be in per fect accord with that, if the word "temporarily" shall be stricken from it. Mr. HICKMAN. My inquiry is this: whether the gentleman knOws of any case where volun teers have been miised for six months or a year? Mr. BINGHAM. I have been informed that there are such eases. Mi. HICKMAN. Where? • Mr. BINGHAM. In Illinois. Mr. BLAIR, oCi Missouri. It 114.,pantlatryan from Ohio will permit me, I will say a word. I believe that nearlyOvery , volunteer from the State of New York is for two years only. I know that theta 'are some from Indiana for one year only, and some from Ohio, so that.this is not a uniform bill, even if the gentlemith intended it to be so. Mr. BINGHAM., Everybody can see, who will look to -the a4t of. the 2:24 of July, that that was the provision,of the bill: Mr. HICKMAN. Then I su ppose if that is the general understanding., that, inasmuch as the volunteers from the.other States have been raised for six - months and -a year; Pennsylvania will be left to close the war, for she seems to be the only one who ,has raised volunteers for-three years. After the terms of service of the volunteers•from the.other States have expired., then I presume that the burden will devolve:upon Pennsylvania to close this war.; Mr:. SINGHAM.:- I do not know that the gen tleman's remark is true that Pennsylvania is the only State which: has raised vOlunteers for three years. • ; • Mr. HICKMAN. It seems so. . . .. .. Mr.BINGHAM. The gentleman says it seems so. Even if it Geis°, it detracts nothing froni.my .argliment. I understand from one of the• Repr esentatives from New. York, who has-beeni kind enough to suggetit the fact to me, that thirty:eight of the regiments' fronithat State now In the ser vice off the United- States were raised for. only a period of two years.. ...., ' One other word. Ido not know that it has any-. thing to do with the line of my argument; but in asmuch as my - friend - from Pennsylvania seems disposed, in the excitement of themoment, to give to Pennsylvanicthe honor of closing this war for the defense of the Union and the Constitution, be cause her volunteers have been accepted for a_ terMof three years, I beg leave to . inform that • gentleman that Ohio will share that-honor with her, for the volunteers from Ohio are also for three years. • . . -, . But this is -the poina desire to make:. the pro visions of this bill and theie - of the act of July 2.2, 1881, are precisely !la sonic in regard to twelve' months' volunteers if the word "temporarily" be stricken out: Strike out the word'"temporarily." and then the bill stands thus: the•military-board of Kentucky—they or anybody else have beenaniployed hy the President under the act of July 2.-,shall have power to raise and organize volunteer reginients,"not exceeding twenty thou . sand,' rank an& file 'to serve • for twelve months ' within the - limits Of Kentucky, or elsewhere,to repel invasion supprees insurrection, and to guard and protect the', public property. It is provided that if at anytime it may be necessary, these troops may be employed Out of the limits of Ken lucky, against ,the enemies of said. State: or of the .United States, at the discretion - of the.cornmand ing general; and. it is provided further, that the President shall - have power to Make such other regulations and 'orders in regard to the organiza tion arid the service Of these forces as he may deem necessary for the interest of'the service. These forces are to 4 raised notonly fur Kentucky, but for the Union;; not,onlyfor the purpose of repel 1. ling, invasion Or suppressing insurrection within 1 i the State or Kentucky, but for the purpose of repelling invasion and suppressing insurrection in any other State or Territory of the United States. i. I - submit, Mr. Speakerohat if the amendment proposed be Made; as I trust it. will be by ‘ common consent of the House, that the bill will then con form to the Ptist.legislaiion 'of this House: The bill being thus amended, what further objection can be made to its passage? Mr. I I OVEJOY. I wish to ask the gentleman why it is necessary to raise this number of men, when Na already •have. enough to perform the service;' when we have ten thousand, at least, waiting-in Ilhnois, and anxious to get into alight somewhere ?- MC. BINGHAM. I answer the gentleman froth Illinois, in all frankness, that if i knew, as he tissunies.to know, that a further increase of the volunteer forte in Kentucky was'not necessary, I would vote against this bill; Wiling, as I do; that no legislation, of whatever kind, is justifiable.. in. this House except that which the public ex. i igency and the public interest require; or, in other wordsohat no legislation should be enacted here which is not necessary to the public or private interests of the people. I accept the gentleman's suggestion as to the rule which ought to govern my conduct. The difficulty is that Ido not know that the.fac(is-as it is stated:-by the gentleman from IllinoiS. On the contrary, I have the best evidence that the force in the field is not sufficient for the public interest, and therefore I am for the proposed inerease. .. • . .:_ Mr. HICKMAN. I wish to know from the gentleman from Ohio why there should not be a • general provision by law increasing the Volun teer force of the country without any special ref erence to Kentucky, if it is not sufficient for, the public. defense:. and why Kentucky should .be separated-from the other States and made atipe: cud case of? - If the volunteer force is not Suffi cient; ought we not to provide for raising more men and appropriating more money . without any . special reference to Kentucky, leaving that to be determined by the Comniander-in,Chiefi - Mr. Ii,INGHAM: There area good-many rea sons-which:ought to have occurred to the ..entle- P • man from .Pennaylvania in answer to -his own question:, without devolvinF its answer upon mu. One, amongst others, is this: as a matter of econ omy;if it is necessary that these volunteers Should be employdd in Kentucky, then they Should b raiser( rather in Kentucky than in any other por tion of the Union, because they will be at once at 4intlernitn inquiry. ' 1 suppose that Kentucky volunteers will fight itio faithfully, as bravely, and as successfully, itt defense of the Unionjuitanyother Volunteers, and that it is espciiolfrfit they should ho permitted to fight against the invasion of - Kentucky. As ram advised, Mr. Speaker, the services of th ese additional twenty thousand troops are needed in Kentucky, upod the line oroperations in that State and in the State of Tennessee. s, I will answer the gentleman atilt further, that not only in point of economy but in another point is this bill correct. Time's irmatfer of some im portance here. I understand that our army in - Kentucky is upon the advance. If that be so there is no time to be lost. We are assured by the ven erable gentleman front Kentucky that there are men in that State anxious to sem the Union in this contest; and who will promptly fill up the enlistment provided for in this bill—men who are ready to rush-into the conflict at once, and insure' victory to our-standard in the-impending conflict, i if it be n the power of their good right arms-to in sure it. Why Should they-not be permitted to take part in the coming battle,? Why take rot- " unteers from Maine to fight a' battle in Kentucky, when the men of. Kentucky are ready to take the field and fight that battle themselves?. - Mr. LOVEJOY. I would like to know upon what facts the gentleman states that we really need more soldiers in the service of the United States? And how much longer, if any, it would take to March soldiers from - Illinois, already en-_ listed and organized, than . it would to enlist and organize them in Kentucky? Mr. BINGHAM. irnight give the gentleman a multitude of facts upon which I Made the state- . ment that more soldiers are needed in Kentucky. miglt ask him' how hi comes by his facts that we. have force enough - in tic field to conquer a peace; and conquer itspeedily, and with the least possible sacrifice of life. Mr. LOVEJOY. I . . Mr. BINGHAM. Ido not desire tolield the floor to enable the gentleman-to answer his Own questions. I,willanswer his questions putto Inc. If the gentleman wants sonic authority, I will say that we have the-report of the Adjutant General of the United States, stating that the whole force in Kentucky is not more than one third of what the public exigencies require: We hive alio the statement of the Representative' from Kentucky, [Mr. Wicsiarre,] that the Secretory - of War himself stated that thin additional force of twenty, thousand is needed now in the service, in Ken- , tucky. Now, I do not know whether facts of— that sort are sufficient for the gentleman; but their . ate sufficient for me. Mr. LOVEJOY. Do I understand the ;wide.; man too say that we have the .statement of the, , Secretary of War that we need twenty thousand additional troops? 'Mr. BINGHAM. Ido not know how the gen tleman understood me, but I used plain words, and words which the gentleman ought to: have' understood the import of, if he had atfended them. I said we hail itlrom the Representative from Kentucky that the 'Secretary, of War de 'dares that this additional 'force in Kentuck ris now needed. Mr. LOVEJOY: I think the: gentleman is mistaken. Mr. WICKLIFFE: Will the gentleman front Illinois allow me to indoctrinate him.once more? I stated that before I received the communication from the Legislature of Kentucky urging the or, ganization of a force of this kind bythe General Government; I had consulted the Secretary of War upon the propriety of it, and explained to him theTurposes, objects, and necessity of . the corps.proved He appved of it, or else my ears de ceived lite,theh went to the President of - the United Stated ifairsubiraied - the - proposltion to him, carrying with me a coy of the order made for the benefit of Missouri. Ile took it under con sideration, and told me he would consult his Cab inet..He afterwards informed toe that he approVeli the raising of the troopsi that he believed them necessary. That 'is what I stated, and what I have stated twice before. . , . . Mr. BINGHAL4I. So I understoo4 the gen tleman'. Mr. LOVEJOY. I hope I shall have a little consideration for my obtusenesi, and that the .ezfileman from Kentucky, conscious of his supe riority, wily not be too sharp upon me. I still insist that thOre must be some mistake in relation To the opinion of the Secretaryof War. Of course the gentleman from Kentucky states it as he under stands it. . . The SPEAKER. - Gentlemen will please con fine their remarks to the subject under discussion. • The Chair. thinks the opimort of the Secretary of War is notlmrtinent to this bill. • . Mr. LOVEJOY. It has something to do with the state of, facts upon which it is pioposed to • pass this bill. . . .. . , The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks that udder the rules this kind of discussion is not in order. Mr. BINGHAM. I•have •but a word br two more to say, and that is, that 'this interruption has demonstrated the fact that with the word "Wmporarify"stricken out of this bill, gentlemen who have objected to the bill stand, in point of fact, objecting to their own legitilation at the recent session of Congress. And to Make that assertion . good, I repeat that if under the' act of July 22. ~ 1861; the number of volunteeni had not beenfict unity enlisted; it would be competent this day for the President of the United States, under the pro visions of that act, to do the 'very thing for-the 'State of Kentucky which is contemplated by the provisions of this bill:. So the gentleman is fully and completely answered as to the question'Why these troops should not be taken from Illinois under the act of July, and before the enlistment.. authorized by it was filled? The 'President of the United States . might, if he saw fit„have raised 'twenty or forty thousand men inthe State of Ken tucky for the purpose of suppressing insurrection and -repelling invasion there or anywhere else.' throughout the Union. ,- - . ' I do not knoW that I a:Thin - lake clearer my position in regard to this matter. I only•desire to -add a word in-order to, complete my argument, 1 and that is, that inasmuch as the-enlistment of .the five hundred thousand men nuthorized by the terms of the act ofJUly is full, the President no - longer has power to act underthat law, and hence . the necessity for this additional legislation. Mr. MAYNARD. This-bill is not entirely de void ofinterest to My immediate constituents, and. I feel very solicitous that it should pass; and it seems to me that if we could divest .it of extra neous matter there would be but littledifficulty in the minds of membererabout its passage. •I . 4mve not attended sufficiently Close to the movement of this debate to kn9w how the negro question. has been introduced into it; but , l, cannot see howl!. 'properly has any connection with it. I suppose there are very few gentlemen'—certairrly I hope . there arc but few—upon either aide of the House who do not concur .in the general sentiment that the.,preservation of this Union and the perpetuity of obr American nationality is an-object infinitely more important for us to consider than either the preservation of slavery or the abolition of slavery.. We are!told that this legiskitionis peculiarolint it is abnordial. In answer to that it is sufficient to state ,that the condition of Kentucky at this time is. peculiar. Kentucky occupies a peculiar .situation in connection with our public affairs.' She's not only invaded by ; armies in large force and 'great strength, but she has the elements of disorder within her own limits.' She has, in por none_ of the State, a large ntlmber of latent rebels who.are very strong in theirayropathywith those in active rebellion against the Government, and. who 'are only waiting a fit opportunity to let their sympathy break out in open insurrection. She is surrounded by hostile forces .on•three sides, who wish to make-her Union and loyal citizens feet the force of their wrath - in consequence of the attitude of loyalty they have •tissumed \ towards the GoVernment. Hence she. is subject to inva sion frcl.m those quarters.! 'Her railroads; her bridges; and her other public property are in con stant danger of being destroyed; and this not by the regular movement of armiesand Jorge lindies of men, but by giterilla L bands who dune in the night and go in the night; 'who go in small nimi, , bets -by stealth through thV by-ways of the coun try. In order to defeat them you do not want armies, but bands of men' equal in number and firmness of purpose to their. You want men fa miliar with the country.; 'who have that sort .of local' knowledge which will enable them to meet this inVadiwv or insurrectidnary force. It is mani fest that such men must be drawn from the coun try itself; and that their organisation should be in the nature of a police force to preserVe order and give protection to the prof le at home. .Nowohe i Stateof Kentue.kyots has been re peatedly 'said, has already furnished her quota of troops for the armies of tle country. She has, if I mistake not, a larger (nice in the field for the War than the State of Massachusetts, with her larger and entirely loyal Population; yet•her re- . ni sources, in the way of faisi troops, are not exhausted. It does not follow that because she has already furnished nearly thirty thousand troops for . three years, as we have been told she 'has, She cannot furnish half as many more. It is. SEE SUPPLEMENT.