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THE PITTSBURG- DISPATCH, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1890.
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A REVIEW OF SPQRTS
Shortcomings of tlic A. A. U. Board
in Dealing With Carey's Claim
for a Sprinting Record.
SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT TIMERS.
1 Few Words About Local Football Plajers
and Some Plans to Fopu-
lariie the Game.
A LESSON IX BASEBALL EXPERIENCE.
EUto'i CUEeige to Tight SaHron, ind Oeaml E
muki Abat tai Fsgihiti.
"We we not to have such an extraordinary
thing as a record of 9 seconds for 100
yards; at least not for the present. The
committee of the Amateur Athletic Union
4 have decreed this, and I suppose that when
they "ope their mouth let uo dog bark."
That committee has been in session and pro
nounced upon many things, and, generally
C (peaking, their findings appear creditable,
but inasmuch as they are human beings I
I don't think that they will lay absolute
claim to infallibility. Doubtless, there
-wouldn't be much surprise when it was
known that Mr. Carey's claim of running
100 yards in 9 seconds was re
jected. All past experience was against it,
and, as 1 remarked last week, the claim was
entirely on the defensive. "While we are
bound to accept the ruling of the committee,
X don't hesitate to say that there is much
cause for complaint as to the method, or at
least the reported method, of arriving at the
decision in question. A very able and lucid
report of the meeting tells ns that the claim
was "not Investigated at all," and that after a
few very brief remarks the following resolution
was unanimously adopted:
KeaoHed. That this Board refuses to investi
gate a cliim so manifestly absurd.
The affidavits that bad been prepared and
ivorn to in defense of the claim were entirely
lgnorod. This very expeditious and evidently
self-willed plan of getting through very im
portant business in remarkably fast time
was indulged in simply because the claim
of Mr. Carey was an extraordinary one.
I am not dealing with the right or wrong of the
decision, but I am contending that the board
In Its very off hand n ay of settling a very im
portant question displayed a remarkable lack
of earnestness and a wonderful amount of
prejudice. If there is any difference between
an ordinary claim and one ot an extraordinary
nature, by all means the latter needs the most
careful investigation. Of course I am aware
that some things arc so absurd that they need
no investigation, but any fair minded man who
has paid any attention to sprinting during the
lust ten or fifteen j ears will not contend that
21r. Carej's claim was so absurd as to make
It ridiculous on the part of the
board to investigate it. It Is as a
rule the extraordinary that marks tbo
progress of not only amateur athletics
but also of other affairs of life, and if wo are to
follow the example of the Amateur Athletic
Union's learned representatives we will not
top to inquire into any extraordinary claim at
all. If this rule had been strictly followed Sal
valor's 1:35 reeon would be contemptuously
thrown to tue four wind because it was so ex
traordinarily better than the previous records.
Accepted claims of pedestrians like J. White,
VV. Johnson. Hntchens and others would have
been trampled under foot. But the very bigot
ed manner in which tneaffidaritsof gentlemen
1 take it for granted that they are gentlemen,
because I presume that the A. A. U. has
nothing except gentlemen under its protecting
brings I say the manner in which the sworn
, statements of gentlemen were ignored leads us
to the conclusion that those who signed thee
affidavits were either consummate fools or infa
mous liars. That is the plain English of it.
"Why, the very tact that three or four watches
recorded almost the same time is sifficieut
matter in itself for investigation. A fact of
that kind can only be discarded because of one
of two things, viz.: that it was a conspiracy or
that it was the result of evfery timer making
mistako exactly alike. In either case I submit
there was ample grounds tor inquiry, if for no
other reason than enlightening the public
But there is certainly one very important opin
ion expressed by the board, and which can only
be read between the lines. That opinion is to
the effect that the gentlemen who timed Mr.
Carej were extremely questionable. Now in
all fairness the statements of these ccntlemen
ought to have been examined aud an opinion
expressed as to whether they were the result of
a misunderstanding or whether they were tbo
result of something else.
Had Their Minds Made Up.
There is certainly every reason to believe
that every member of the board in question
had his mind made up on the claim of Mr.
Carey before the board met. If I mistake not,
one or two members of the board had publicly
placed themselves on record regarding the
claim long before the board meeting was held.
This is prejudging a claim with a vengeance.
Ifanimportan board, such as ihat with which
we are dealing, is to j' characterized by feat
ures of this kind, its prestise will not last long.
The board ineinbe , before making up their
minds on the matter, should certainly have met
officially, and beard all arguments and state
ments. The fact of their not doing so leads to
the conclusion that prejudice against deal
ing with anything extraordinary was the
entire source of their oBLual opinion.
Mr. Owens' record was accepted without a
murmur as far as I know, and most certainly,
laying aside tbo extraordinary feature of
Carej's claim, there were stranger objections
to Mr. Owen's claim than to that of tue Man
hattan runners. Bnt it may have been fortu
nate for Mr. Owen that Mr. Carey's claim was
made at all. I am quite an are that there was
a very remarkable difference between bpriuter
Carey at Washington and Sprinter Carey at
Princeton, bdt this difference I emphatically
maintain oucnt not to nave prevented a thor
ough and courteous investigation of the claim.
These recent contentions regarding records
would seem to suggest the advisability of the
A. A. O. adopting some plan that will tend to
prevent great misunderstandings in future. It
might be n ell for the union to have one or
more representatives to time the races at ama
teur meetings ol any importance. Amateur
athletics are becominc more and more numer
ous and better. The union could without much
trouble and probably no no expense
select qualified gentlemen in each city
to time that class of events, the
timing of which invariably causes
so much unpleasant contention. Indeed this
suggestion uiigbt be carried further. The
union's representatives could see that every
thing was laid out and measured according to
rule before an event of any kind took place. If
there were fees to pay let the clubs holding the
sports par it, because the very fact of their con
tests being under the direct supervision of the
A. A. (J. would be a very great attraction in
Itself. The union is without doubt a splordid
organization aud Its importance is growing
yearly. It could not till a worthier function
than formulating some plan that will guar
antee correct records without the customary
unpleasantness.
. The Union and Boxing.
.The Board of the Athletic Union discussed
amateur boxing, and, as a result of their de
liberations, they passed a resolution which
reads as follows: "Resolved, That any amateur
athlete who shall, on or after October 27. ISM,
compete in a boxing contest of more than four
rounds shall be suspended for such stated
period as may be determined by the Board of
Managers of the A. A. U." Matters got a little
mixed regarding this resolution. There was
another to the effect that only amateurs
connected with the A. A. U. would be
prevented from bnxluc more than four rounds.
It was reported that the latter resol utlon had
been carried, but the statement turned out to
be a mistake. But the new rule is a sad com
mentary ou the men wbo have fought for more
than two hours under Queenberry rules; that
is, it the board thinks that four roands are
sufficient to prove who is the better man of any
two who may De boxing. If the board so thine
I don't acree with them because there bavo
been and will be acain very many contests
where four rounds will not give both contest
ants a fair opportunity to win. McCaffrey and
Dempsey boxed ten rounds, I think, and
scared v a bona tide blow was struck in the con
test. However, there are some good features
in the new rule. I have all along contended
that Queensberry rules are only boxing rules
and that when thev govern a fight to a finish
they are brutal. If they are rigidly applied
they, in the majority of instances, wors well
enough even in a lour-round contest.
The Football Flayers.
There is no doubt whatever now about the
football boom. The game is going ahead all
over the country just like a house on Bre. East
and West old teams are strengthening up and
new ones are coming to the front, and as a re
sult there are more football players to-day in
li TTnfreA Rf att tiian v srer dreamt of. It
is safe to say that there will be -a greater in
terest in the championship contests tilts year
than there has ever been, because alreadv in
quiries are pouring in to newspaper offices from
all quarters regarding football affairs. Solar
Pittsburg has done well because it must be
fconn in mind that the Gentlemen who have or
ganized the club onlv began theirs a short time
iro. Dunne the week I have received sev
eral letters from readers of The DISPATCH
retarding plans to popularize the game
here. It may not be out of place to
remark that the game here is jumpmc verv
rapidly into popularity: but the suggestions I
reter to are worth considering, because some
thing mav be devised that 111 sustain th.e in
terest. One gentleman suggests that a league
be iormed in Western Pennsylvania OrthTOUgh
out the fetate, and that the clubs composing the
league play Tor a challenge cup, to be won
tbrice in succession by any one club before It
becomes the propertj. of that club. 1 he sugges
tion Is a good one, and if it were carried out I
feel certain that interest In the gamo would
not only be sustained, bdt that It would be ma
terially increased. The suggestion is not now
by any means, but that is no reason why it
should not be acted upon it it promises well.
Of course. It is good as far as, applies locally.
But why could there not be a loot
ball league embracing eight or ten
leading clubs, some ot tbem being
outside the State? If a league were formed we
could thou depeud on stvedulO games, and it
seems certain that in tiniq football players
ivnnlil lin-mnn as familiar to tllO public as the
starballpUversonceweie. True, there is not
time to organize any icasae iui , uu
is none too soon or too late to discuss the mat
ter. I know that the officials ot the local foot
ball teams are favorably disposed toward the
formation of Vleaguc. aud ltrust that berore
we commence ano.her season we will have a
league. The directors ot the Allegheny Ath
letic Association have a very extensive pro
gramme to carry out between now and next
spring, hut the can find time to discuss tue
pros and cons of organizing a league.
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Reinstated Amateurs.
I had almost forgotten to reproduce a list of
athletes who were reinstated into the ranks of
amateurism by the A. A. U. Board. This list
has been requested by several correspondents.
It certainly shons that'thereis little trmh in
tbeort quoted statement to .the effect that
once a professional no more an amateur. Here
is the list: Thomas Walstencraf t, Somerville,
Mass. (competed under assumed name); Henry
Berst, Bnffalo, N. Y. (member of pfofessioual
rowing club); George H. Benedict, Chicago,
111. (protessional punlist); Jackson McCIellan,
Hew York City (old-time member American A.
C; got six-day-go-as-you-please fever in 1SS0
and competed just two hours): F. W. Allison,
Neward. N.J. (competed for $10 prize when a
boy of 14 at the instigation of a wicked father):
J. I Dujran, New York City (competed at
Trainer Pook's recent unapproved bene
fit): F. W. McCollom, Philadelphia,
Pa. (professional oarsman through
ignorance of laws). The application of P. A.
btoll, Lawrence, Mass. (professional polo
player), was refused. The petition of O. E.
Pajnter. Brooklyn,". Y. (competed at unap
proved games July 4, 1S90) for remitment of
suspension, was refused. His time expires
January J, 1S9L The following applications for
reinstatement were referred to a new commit
tee: J. Fitzpatrick. Buffalo, N. Y. (protested
at Salford Harrier-M. A. C. cames, October 11):
John Naughtonbcheiiectady, N. Y. (protested
atAlbanvJulv4);D. P. bullivan. New York
City (protested at Park A C. games). Joe
Watson, Brooklyn. N. Y. (protested at Acorn
A A. games); J. D. Harris, New York City
(club swinger, prntested at A- A U. gymnaBtic
championships). The application of J. It. Cot
trell (bicyclist) was referred te Chairman
Davol, of the la. A. W.
The Salford Harriers.
While we3re dealing with amateurs and
amateurism it may be opportune to remark
that the A. A. U. Board are still insisting on
having a clear understanding regarding the
payment of the expenses of amateur athletes.
The following preamble and resolution were
passed:
HERF-AS, At its annual mectinr on the 10th of
October, 1890, the Amateur Atoletlc Union of the
Unitoi Mates appointed a committee of live to
consider the que.llon of the pat meat of expenses
of the athletes within its jurisdiction: and.
hcress. In its opinion it Is of great importance
to amateur athletes that the rule as to allowance
or capenscs should be uniform in all amateur or
ganizations: be it
ltc&oivett. That the League of Amerlcin Wheel
men and National Association of Amateur Oars
men he each invited to appoint a committee or
representation to conf-rand co-operate with satd
committee and airree upon and friine such unl
lorm rule If poasllile: and be It further
Kesolvcd. That a copy of this preamble and
resolution be sent bv the cecretarv to each of the
above named organizations at once.
I refer to this matter somewhat fully because,
while tbo most risid lines are being drawn
around amateurs, the balford Harriers are act
ing very questionable. It is quite apparent
that their trip to the country was for "gate re
ceipts" almost entirel . Few of ns will be in
clined to believe that each member-of that
team is heie on a long sta merely for his "le
gitimate expenses." To all intents and pur
poses their mission hers has been as profes
sional as that of Shaw or bhrewsbbry's cricket
teams. The "gate" has been the creat object
all along and it does not affect the principle at
issue if tbo "sate" has been a
failure. .Trips of this kind, that is
these alleged amateur trips, have been
common In recent J ears and that thev are in
nine cases out of ten a direct desecration of
the term amateur there is nD doubt. Many
have tried to explain satisfactorily that the
trips of the Australian cricketers were on
purely amateur basis, bnt the explanations
failed. The cricketers, like the Salford Har
riers and like many more aggregations, live on
the returns; that is, on whatsis called "ex-
feuses." If that is now lh lug on a profession
don't know what is. Surely this is a questinn
that demands the attention of the amateur
magnates.
A Lesson of Experience.
After all experience is a great schoolmaster
if we would only allow ourselves at all times to
benefit by its teachings. It has taught a lesson
to ball players this week that ought to ba very
profitable in the future. I refer to the aban
doned baseball trip ot Captain Comlskey. In
the flush and excitement of the hurrah at the
beginning of the season Mr. Comlskey saw dol
lars in ealnrein Cuba and other places that
could all be gathered in by a couple of baseball
.teams. Atrip was planned and players were
ready almost in battalions to go. As the sea
son waned the vision ot dollars reached no
further than San Francisco. The season
ended and the vision was only a
very dim one. The dollars, that
lancy nau paintea bo urmm anu so numerous
were fast vanishing. Still Mr. Cormlstcy dune
to the hope ot making money and struggled to
get his teams together. Finally he a few days
ago abandoned all notion of either going to
Cuba. 'Frisco or anywhere else with baseball
teams. Now all this teaches that baseball has
been dragged down to a most miserable level
in a very Rhort time. Why. only about a year
aco a Western trip in fall and winter time
filled ever) body with enthusiasm. Tint things
have so wonderfully changed that even plajers
themselves recognize in such a trip or venture
nothing bnt a miserable failure. Snrelv a cir
cumstance of this kind ought to prompt base
ball plaj ers to see that there is something sadly
wrong with their business, and that they can do
a great deal, indeed, toward repairing the
injnrv tbat lias been done. One wonld thine
that if nothing else would have an influence
with them that self interest would induce tbem
to act in a way that would soon terminate all
the humbug and nonsense that have stripped
their calling of Its glory, prestige and profit.
Depend upon it, all these suits bere andthere
for iilavprs' salaries point with unerring finger
to the fact that the players, in very many in
stances, are assisting lu the ruination or their
own interests, if any man. or any class ot
men, have good reason to strive for the termi
nation OI wnat is catieu mi- iiascLiau conaict,
the ball players are the parties. It is to be
hoped tbat experience will have some effect on
them. '
-Consolidation Prospects.
There is still any amount of talk going the
rounds regarding the consolidation of the P. 1
and N. la. clubs. As far as apnea ranees go mat
ters seem to have been amicably settled In New
York and Brooklyn, which is a very hopeful
sign. I don't know whether or not the Pitts,
bnrg factions are nearing a settlement, but it
seems to me tbat all parties concerned 'are less
on the warpath than they were a week or so
ago. I think many people have came to the
conclusion that baseball Is npt the alpha and
omega of this life, and certainly It will be bet
ter tor all concerned if baseball interests
are discussed from a purelv business
basis. The local P. L. stockholders have a busi
ness meeting on Monday evening, and while it
certainly is none of my business to make
anv suggestions to them even were I qualified
to teach them their business, it may be within
my province to remind them of an opinion'ex
pressed in this city the other day by one of their
own party, viz., Mr. Robinson, of New York.
Mr. Robinson stated that in 'New York the
rival clubs had settled by each taking a half in
terest in the proposed new clnb. lie then
strongly recommended the Pittsburg clubs to
do this. Mark, this is not my opinion or recom
mendation, but it is the advice of a Players'
League official who has considerable money at
stake in the Players' League. But whether
this' advice is acted upon or not, it is to be
hoped that the magnates of each local club
will make up their minds to come to a conclu
sion that the public of Pittsburg wants that is
one club, and that one a real first-rater.
' About the Pugilists.
During the week nothing of note has -transpired
among the leading pugilists. K P.
Slavin has declared to the world that he in
tends to come to America and deposit a forfeit
to fight John L. Sullivan. If there was any
earnestness about the challenge It might be
worth-while discussing it at length. Out I
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TOUR AROUND THE WORLD.
SO Concerts In Melbourne 80,
60 Concerts in Sidney CO.
10 Concerts In Adelaide 40.
40 Concerts In Brisbane 40.
t 24 Concerts in Dunedin 24
ovide"musini
The world's GREATEST VIOLINIST and his
GRAND CONCERT COMPANY,
NOVEMBER 24.,
THE REDPATH CONCERT COMPANY.
Miss fclla Cbamberlln, whistling, soloist.
Mr. Edw. K. Hood, humorist.
(Date to be announced later.)
THIS COURSE OF 5 ItlGH-CLASS ENTER
TAINMENTS FOR L
Tickets will be on sale atMellor 3t Hoone's
Music Store, 77 Filth avenue, from November
7 to 14. Reserved seats (good for entire course),
60c Jl and $1 SO extra, according to location.
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THIRD ANNUAL RECEPTION
-OF-
First Regiment
Select Knights of America,
-AT-
OLD CITY HALL,
Thursday Even'g, Nov. 6, 1890.
Music by Original Royals.
McMichaels, Prompter.
Select Knights -will appear in
Fatigue Uniform.
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Ten Complete
Transformations
Of the
Depths of
The Deep.
N.
Prese7ited
Here
On
A
Scale
Of
Scenic
Splendor
UNDER
Never
Before
Equaled
In
The
Annals
Of
The
Stage.
The
Wreck
In
Mid-Ocean. '
The
Man-of War
Scene.
The
Laying
Of
The
Cable.
The
Ocean's
Depth.
The
A ssassination.
Jm- " f
Capt. Scott,
The Submarine
Diver,
Accompanied
By His
STRAUSS
-XT.D HIS-
VIENNA ORCHESTRA.
FAREWELL T0 PITTSBURG.
TWO PERFORMANCES ONLY.
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7.
Matinee at the
Night at 8,
Old City Hall.
Grand Opera Eonse.
Prices, COc, 75c, SI.
Prices, 81. 60.
Beserred Seats on "sale at S. Hamilton's,
Fifth avenue, Monday at 9 A. M.
E. C. GARBER, Manager.
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HARRIS" MATER.
HARRIS, BRITT0N & DEAN,
PROPRIETORS AND MANAGERS.
Week Commencing Monday, Nov. 3.
Erery Afternoon and Eremne,
FRANK HARVEY'S FAMOUS PLAT,
AGAINST
wo:mla,sl
A Dramatic Picture of Every
day Life.
Introducing features and effects absolutely
new to the stage, including
THE GREAT KITCHEN SCENE,
la which an entire meal is cooked,
served and eaten during the
progress of the play.
SPECIAL NOTICE Election return!
trill be read Irom the stage on Tuesday
night. Beceireddirect by special wire and
telegraph operator, io full yiew of the audi
ence. Week .November 10 BENNETT &
1IOTJLTON OPEBA CO.
-.'.. .1 . . 1l X ... . .
- NEW ADVERTISEMENTS;
Realistic Conflict Most wonderful
Between Wreck at
Sub-Marine ' ''. Sea
Diver and Ever
Octopus. Conceived
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THEATRE
THE DIRECTION OPE.M, GULIOK
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Matinees, "Wednesday and Saturday,
STUPENDOUS SCENIC MASTERPIECE,
THE Bill MARINE SPECTACLE,
' Jt-lCafsb--
Election returns will be read from tue stage Tuesday night, No
vember 4. Special wire and operator.
BIJOU PRICES: 75 5Q
RESERVED SEATS. 7
NOV. io Bartley Campbell's "White Slave.
Daring
Crew
Show the
Actual
Work
REPUBLICANS,
AND'
PROHIBITIONISTS
"Will have an opportunity to cast their votes on Tuesday next with a fiew of electing
Governor for the ensning term. The contest was a long, stubborn and bitter one. Person
alities were indulged in, all hi which is decidedly wrong and unpleasant.
, There are apparent reasons for doubting the success of either party, bat the leaders of
each party who know these things ignore them and encourage their followers by saying
these things are neutralized by disaffection in the other camp. That there is a prevalent
factional feeling in both parties in Allegheny county is an undeniable fact. Somebody
will be sadly disappointed, snowed under, as it were. Somebody will come out second
best we assure our patrons that it will not be '
PICKERING'S,
"Who,ar always in the lead and bound to win, and more especially now tine
they have just received another immense invoice of
Furniture, Carpets, Chinaware, Stoves, Lace Cur
tains, Rugs and Oil Cloths,
Ladies' Cloaks, Sacques, Jackets and Newmarkets,
Portieres, Comforts and Blankets.
In fact, everything to FURNISH your home complete, all to be distributed
broadcast over the land for
CASH OR CREDIT.
Before making yonr purchases we kindly invite yon to examine our prices and com
pare them with those of leading cash houses, and you will be convinced that responsible
housekeepers can, by patronizing us, get goods as cheaply on CREDIT as for CASH.
Credit is a benefit if not paid for too dearly, and credit is a blessing when It comes to you.
inhe shape of honest dealing; but on the other hand credit is a detriment when the needy
poor are compelled to resort to it when imposed upon, and credit is a curse when the party
who gives it wrings from his victims their hard-earned money by exorbitant charges.
For the coming week we will offer special inducements in
Bed Lounges, Blankets and Comforts
Being overstocked we must resort to ruinous prices.
YOUNG MARRIED COUPLES 1
And .the rest of mankind should avail themselves ot this GOLDEN opportunity.
.AVOIID IMPOSTOBS,
But satroniza the Old Reliable House of
PICKERING'S,
' Corner Penn Ave. and Tenth St
'600 Yards Brussels and Ingrain, Carpets on the Blook.
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P. 8. Our bonds issued to the public arc redeemable Taluc $1 on puzohases of
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One
Big
Scenic
Spectacle
Of
The
Season.
Paramount
Success
Of
New York,
Boston,
Phila!lphia,
Brooklyn,
JStc.
' Pronounced
Eminent
Critics
. To: be-
The
Most
Remarkable
And,
Unconven-'
tional
Spectacle
Ever
& CO.
Conceived
Adapted and
Produced,
By
Wm.A.
Brady.
Henry F.
Green,
Manager.
anfl 25c.
. s-ir v.
Of a
Salving
Expedition at the
Bottom
Of The Sea.
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