THIRD PART. TALKS OFSTATESMEN Some Easy for tho Intemew er to Get, Others Kot. EDMUNDS' CHILLY POLICY. Ingalls' Big Boom for a New England Soap Manufacturer. AEEPOKTEB WHO WORSTED BLAINE ICOEEESrONDESCE OF TUB DISPATCH. Washin gton. March 15. pisxBAA HE tempest in the which has been raised as to the reporting of the secret sessions by the newspaper corre spondents is br no means new. Every year Edmunds, Har ris, "Wilson and other Senators make wild threats against their brothers who give out the doings of the executive sessions to the reporters and the avenues of news are so niany that the executive sessions are more fully reported than the open ones. About three-fourthsorthe Senators hold confidential relations with the leading newspaper corre spondents, and every newspaper man in "Washington has one or more men upon whom he can rely to cive him accurate in formation as to anything berore Congress. Many Senators "give out news without knowing it, and an adroit interviewer is never at a loss lor the lacts in any case. Senator Edmunds position in regard to ex ecutive sessions is so ell known that he is The Workman and JSlainc seldom approached by any of the old corre spondents. Young reporters now and then attempt to interview him, and he treats them politely, TELLING TJJESI THEIB MISTAKE and asking ror their address, saying that if they will give it he will send them a docu ment that they may read to their advantage. The green reporter hereupon gives his card, and tbe next day he gets by mail a copy of the rules ot the Senate with a blue pencil mark around the following paragraph: "Any Senator or officer of the Senate who shall disclose the secret or confidential busi ness or proceedings of the Senate shall be liable, if a Senator, to suffer expulsion from the body, if an officer, to dismissal from the service of the Senate and to punishment tor contempt." Senator Edmunds seldom submits to an interview upon any subject, thouchhe some times dictates his views upon certain ques tions before the Senate, and when he does the talk is always worth reading. He often gives information with the proviso that the matter shall not be used in interview shape, and he is in this respect much like a num ber of his brotner Senators. Ingalls oiten talks in this way, and his conversations sparkle with ideas craphically expressed. He is lull of information, is up to the times on every subject, and if one can escape his prohibition to publish he is good for a column any hour of the day. SHERMAN IS ACCESSIBLE. Senator Sherman, though he is said to be "cold," is always ready to talk to a news paper man. He answers all questions put to him. aud gives interviews whenever he can. He will not say what he does not want to, and he is perfectly (rank and open in his expressions. He sometimes dictates his re plies to the interviewer, and he is accessible both at the Senate and at his home. Leland Stanford is another very accessible man, and he has as many ideas to the square inch as any other statesman in the country. His head is packed fall of information of all sorts, and I have never heard a subject mentioned in his presence upon which he bad not something new to say He is not afraid to say what he thinks, and his talks are always readable. Senator Allison talks readily, nut he hedges so much in his state ments as to take the life out of them. He is too much of a diplomat, and he roosts on the fence. Senator Hoar, of Massachusetts, never submits to an interview. I remember my first experience with him. I was corre spondent lor the Cleveland Leader, and I told him that I had been sent by its editor to ask him certain questions. He was sit ting in bis dressing gown and slippers in his library when I made this remark, and he straightened himself up like a shot and shut his mouth like a clam as he chopped out the words: no mincing or words. "Well, young man, you may put your questions, but I warn you I will not answer one word." I then told him that I did not expect to interview him bv force and that if he had nothing to say there was no use in my asking questions. He then told me that he had wade a resolution to publish everything that went from him into the papers oer his own signature and begged my pardon for his seeming grnffness. He wanted me to stay and look over the cartoons in .Pud!; with him, but I thanked him and left. I find that the New England Senators are as a rule afraid to call their souls their own and the most knobbish man on the Supreme Court bench is Justice Horace Gray. He never submits to an interview and he told me once when I asked him some question about Supreme Court business that he thought the country would be better served by his attending to the business of the court, than by saying what ought to be done as to its improvement- Not long ago a lady correspondent of "Washington was preparing an article on the private libraries of the Capital. She wrote to the leading statesmen who were known to have collec tions of books aud asked permission to call and see them. JUSTICE GRAY'S REFUSAL. From every man of prominence with the exception ot 'Justice Gray she cot a polite answer. Gray's roply was iorraal, almost to rudeness, and it stated that Justice Gray's library had been gathered together for other purposes, nnrt that the public would be just as well served uy not hearing anything about it. This is from the Justice of the - Mi raffllfflTl 'I !'"1 ki'-c Supreme Court who went down the river with the President in an English hunting costume a month or so ago, and who, when I called upon him, received me in a silk vel vet coat, patent leather pumps, a velvet vest and light pantaloons. Senator Dawe of Massachusetts, is not averse to an interview and he talks well. Speaker Iteed now and then gives a sentence or two to the correspondents, and SIcKinley is a good friend of the newspaper men. Joe Cannon is full of ideas, and he can grind out a column in an hour. Senator Hawlev is verv busy, but he is a newspaper man himself, and he will talk freely if you catch him at leisure. "Wade Hampton never interviews, and the reporter who gets any thing out of Joe Brown is a genius. INTERVIEWED IK BED. Cushman K. Davis, of Minnesota, is al ways ready to give away a good thing when he has it. I remember once calling upon him about 8 o'clock in the evening. I was told to walk up to his bedroom, and 1 found him with his head on the pillow and the bed clothes well up to the neck of his frilled nighttrown. He told me that he had had a hard day's work, and that he had cone to bed early to sleep himself fresh. He said that he could sleep at any time and that he was good lor 12 hours or could get along with four as necessity demanded, and he gave me the information I desired while he lay in bed. Frank Hiscock, of New York, is a poser. He seems to swell when he is asked for an interview, and if he has not some ax of his own to grind he wilt say that he is very busy jnst now, but if you will call npon him" to-morrow he will be able to tell you whether he can talk or not Senator Joe Blackburn is a good man to interview, but a hard man to report. His language is so flowery that you lose the ideas if youare not careful, and he ought to be quoted just as he talks to do him justice. Yoorhees is cau tious, but he often tells a good story. George Test is lull of ideas. He is not afraid to talk and he dictates an article as well as most correspondents can write it He walks up and down as he dictates, and his words flow freely. THE PRESIDENT AND CABINET. President Harrison has given no big in terviews as yet. It is not considered eti quette to ask him questions, and the ordi nary rule is that a Cabinet Minister ought not to be interviewed. Nevertheless, Wan amaker talks frequently, "Windom gives out expressions on some subjects and Blaine has made one or two utterances since he became Secretary of State. Speaking of Blaine and the newspapers, one of the best stories I ever heard in re gard to his experiences with the reporters was told last night on Newspaper Bow. The subject of executive sessions was up, and a number of the correspondents were chatting abont public men and interviews. Smith D. Fry, of the St. Paul Globe, de scribed Blaine's adventures with George Nicholas. "Nicholas," said Fry, "was a reporter of the Chicago Times, which was during the days of Editor Storey a great friend of Blaine's. Blaine was in Chicago at the Grand Pacific Hotel, and Clint Snowden, the city editor, Sent Nicholas to interview him. As he entered tbe howl he saw Mr. Blaine go into the dining room arm in arm with a prominent politician of Chicago. He waited until they came out and saw Blaine go to the elevator and up to his room. BLAINE -WAS NOT IN. Mr. Nicholas then sent up his card to Mr. Blaine. The boy returned immediately and said that Mr. Blaine was not in. Nicholas waited half an hour and sent up his card again. The same result. He waited another half hour and sent up another card,and still Mr. Blaine was not in. By this time he was rather angry, and seeinrracross the streetnn old Chicagoan who looked very much like Mr. Blaine it occurred to him that he would get even with Mr. Blaine by making this man personate him. Nicholas was a curious fellow. He stuttered in his speech and he was a good deal of a wag. He went over the way and patted this man on the shoulder and said: "How do you do, Mr. Blaine?" The man looked around and replied: "What is it, Nick? "What's the lay?" Said Nicholas: "I have been sent out to interview Mr. Blaine, and as you look like Mr. Blaine I will interview you," and he thereupon began to ask questions. The man took the cne and he answered the interroga tories in a characteristic manner, saying just the things, however, that Blaine should not have said. He referred in impolitic terms to General Grant and criticised Garfield. THE PLUMED KNIGHT "WAS MAD. Nicholas wrote up the interview and it was publjshed in the Times. Blaine not iced it the next day when he was traveling somewhere in the central part of Wisconsin. He was very angry and he telegraphed to Mr. Storey "that he had had no interview with any of his reporters and asked what he meant by such an outrageous misrepresenta tion. Storey grew excited over the tele gram. He called in Snowden and asked who had written that interview. "It was Geore? Nicholas," replied the city editor. " 'You must discharge him at once,' said Mr. Storey. 'The inerview never took place and I have just gotten this telegram from Senator Blaine.' "Snowden went back to his office and a moment later Nicholas came in. " 'Well, Nicholas, you're fired," said Snowden. 'Blaine has telegraphed that he had nothing to do with that interview and the old mtn savs you've got to go.' " 'Indeed,' said Nicholas. 'I think both Blaine and Mr. Storev have not read the Sherman is Accessible. interview. It does not pretend to be a talk with Blaine bnt it expressly states that it is a talk with a man who looked like Blaine.' and thereupon Nicholas told the story of how Blaine had illtreated him, how he had sent up his card three separate times and how Blaine had refused to receive him. GOT A RAISE IN SALARY. " 'That alters the matter,' said Mr. Snowden, and he thereupon went in to Mr. Storey and the two looked over the article together and round it was as Nicholas had stated. Mr. Storey was very angry at the treatment of his reporter by Mr. Blaine when he had done so much for him, and he asked lor Nicholas. When Nicholas came in he said: 'Mr. Nicholas, if you ever treat a public niau that way again I'll discharge you, but for the prese'nt "von may stay, and your salary will be $40 instead of 525 per week. Good day. Mr. Nicholas.' " It was a short time alter this that Nicholas came to Washington. He was engaged as a reporter on the National Republican, at the head of which was George V. Gorham, who hated Blaine and who was fighting him. Blaine's hatred of Gorham was equallv great, and Blaine would never have thnuglit of giving an interview to the National Re publican. He was building his house here then, and spent some hours ot each day in watching its construction. Nicholas was sent to interview him. He watched for the THE PITTSBURG DISPATCH, time when he went out to see his new house on Dupont Circle, and jnst as Blaine entered the front door Nicholas jumped down THROUGH THE COAL HOLE and took off his coat, rumpled up his shirt and in a short time appeared before Blaine in the attire of i workman. Blaine is, you know, a very approachable man upon certain occasions, and Nicholas went up to him and said: "Mr. Blaine, we workmen think some thing about politics as well at other people, aud do you know that I have been greatly interested in your great career. I liked your speeches in Virginia, and as for this son-of- Ingalls Said Me Was Jiuined. a-gun who edits the National Republican and who is always denouncing you, we workmen don't think much of him." This was said in Nicholas stuttering way and Blaine listened to him, sympathized with him in his effort to talk, and was evi dently flattered bv his appreciation. He replied to the work"men, telling him what he thought of the issues of the campaign, and drawn out by questions, gave a long discus sion upon the matters which were of the most interest to the people at that time. As the talk went on. however, he thought his workman seemed to know a remarkable amount for a man of his position and sud denly stopped and asked: "By the way, young man, who are you?" THE OPEN CONFESSION. ITI er I am the man who tried to interview you for the Chicago Times iD Chicago, but d d did not succeed. I I am now in Washington and I er write for the Republican." To sav that Blaine was angry is unneces sary. Nicholas left, however, before he ex pressed his wrath in action, and the next dav a long and important interview ap peared in the National Republican, in which Blaine's views were given to the peo ple in a characteristic way. You would hardly find a correspondent in Washington who would attempt to get an interview in this manner to-dy, and the action of Nicholas would not be approved of by either editors or correspondents. The newspaper correspondents are as a rule fully as gentlemanly in the getting of their in formation as the most polite of the states men, and there is not a man in the gallery who would betray a confidence or a secret. Most of them are close in the counsels of the public men, and not a few ot them daily keep back information intrusted them in confidence which might make them money and which often might ruin the public men who give it to them. PUBLISH UNLESS FORBIDDEN. The rule, however, in newspaper work is that a public man in giving an expression to a correspondent intends it for publica tion unless ho absolutely prohibits or re quests tbe contrary. One of the funniest interviews of the past three years was that which was unconsciously given by Senator Ingalls to Mr. Lewsley, then ol the Wash incton Post, but now connected with the New York World. Mr. Lewsley was sent to interview Senator Ingalls on politics. Senator Ingalls did not want to talk, andhe turned the conversation at every question that Lewsley put to the subject of shaving. When Lewsley asked him as to the pros pects ot the pa'rty. Senator Ingalls remarked that Mr. Lewsley's beard needed trimming, and, "as a friend," told him "a gentleman could not go through life without shaving himself at least once a day." "You should shave the first thing in the morning," said Ingalls. "You will want a cup of hot water, and as to the razor " Here Lewsley broke in: "But, Senator, I want to ask you as to the Presidental situ ation." "I was speaking of the razor, Mr. Lew sley. I would advise you to get one of the Sheffield make, of a hollow blade and the lighter aud smaller the better, and " "But, Senator Ingalls," interrupted Lewsley, I want to talk to you about tho political " HE BOOMED ME SOAP. "Ah, Mr. Lewsley, I forgot to speak about the soap. The finest soap you will find on the market is that made in New England by a man named blauk," and here Ingalls mentioned the name of one ol the noted soap men of the "United States and went on with a quarter of a column of eulogy in his usual linguistic pyrotechnics upon the virtues of this shaving soap. Mr. Lewsley, finding he could not get what he wanted, lelt, and having a certain amount of space to fill, he wrote up the interview on shav ing, quoting Ingalls' words as they were uttered. The next day everybody in Wash ington was lnnghing over this interview and by the following week it was copied into nearly every paper in the "United States. Senator Ingalls did not object to it until he saw it on one of the advertising pages of Harpers' Weekly. The shaving soap man had taken a picture oi Senator Ingalls and had paid for a whole page of Harpers' Weekly for this and the interview advertis ing his soap. Mr. Lewsley bought Harpers' the day it came out and he had it in his pocket as, going up toward the Capitol, he met Senator Ingalls and said: "Senator, there are some things in my lie of which I feel very proud and some for which I am sorry. I feel for once, how ever, that I have done myself great credit, and I have never appreciated that fact as just now," "How so?" said Senator Ingalls. RAISED HIM TO GREATNESS. "I find I have been the hnmble means. Senator, of making you truly iamous. I have elevated you to the rank of Patti, Henrv Ward Beecher, Lvdia Pinkham, Harriet Hu board Ayer and the other really great who find their place in the advertising columns of great newspapers." "What do you mean?" said Ingalls. '"'I mean this," Baid Lewsley, and he thereupon handed the Senator the paper. Ingalls screwed his double-spectacled eyes close to the paper a moment without speak ing, and then he raised it up and said: "Great heavens, Lewsley, you've ruined me!" "Ob, no, I think not," said Lewsley. "It is just as you gave it to me, is it not?" "Yes, I believe it is," said Ingalls, "and there is no use in trying to lie out of it, I couldn't afford to enter tbe ring with a great professional liar like yourself. I will do one thing, however. I will prevent the re appearance of that advertisement," and thereupon the Senator went to his room and telegraphed to the soap man that if ho did not take that advertisement out ot the paper he would be subject to a suit for damages. The resnlt was that the advertisement was dropped. Frank G. Carpenter. No case of rheumatism can be so bad that Chamberlain's Pain Balm will not help it- The prompt relief from pain which it affords is alone worth many times the cost, which is CO cents. Wlbsn y-fe? JlH&ntyl ck PITTSBtTRG, SUNDAY, PLAZAS OF BOGOTA. Statue of Simon Bolivar, the George Washington of Colombia. HIS COXGRESS OP THE AMERICAS. Babies flare a Hard Time Among the Poor Classes of the People. A COMPLAINT COMMON TO TISITOES tCOBBKSFOKDZHCI OT TUX DISPATCH.! Bogota, Colombia, February 3. HIS ancient capi tal has more than the usual number of plazas, or public squares. The prin cipal plaza, named in honor of the patriot, Simon Bol ivar, whose statue stands in the mid dle, ocenpies the exact center of the town, and extends 80 meters in every direction. The "counterfeit pre sentment" of the Liberator, the co lossal statue in bronze, is a mag nificent work, which was exe cuted by the cele brated sculptor, Tenerami,and pre sented to Colom Ibia (then New Grenada) by Senor Jose IgnacioParis, a gentleman prom- f npnt In lnfal nnli. tics, who at that time had the presidental bee buzzing loudly in his bonnet. The figure is attired in the alleged mili tary costume which nobody on earth ever wore but statues, its trailing robe, some thing like that which disfigures the marble A VIEW OF SANTA caricature of poor Lincoln in the Capitol at Washington, a cross between Soman tosa, Spanish cloak and bed-sheet, adorned with elaborate embroidery. The head is uncov ered, the right hand holds a rapier, and on the breast is a beautiiul medallion of George Washington, the .Father ot Republics. Great Bolivar, Colombia's first President, whodid so much toward shaping tbo destinies of South America, and in whose honor the Kepublic of Bolivia was named, was a genius in his day. The congress of the nations of the three Americas, which has lately been making the grand tour of the United States, was the ontcome of an idea originated by him, as far back as the year 1821. At that time the several sections of Spanish America had just achieved their independence, and were for the most part organized into Bepublics, but on no sub stantial basis. CONFERENCE OF THE THREE AMERICAS. Bolivar urged the doctrine of "America for the Americans," and suggested a confer ence of all the American powers North, South and Central to be held at Panama, the middle point. The proposal found favor in the "United States, but there was some hitch in the arrangements made to comply with the invitations. Fur one thing the place of meeting was ill-chosen, the climate of Panama, though not obiectionable to the South and Central Americans who are accustomed to it, being deadly to those from the far North. Two delegates were sent from thcsPnited States to that early con gress; buj one of them died on the way, and the other, owing to some delay in transit, found, on his arrival at Panama, that the conference had adjourned some days belore. The idea did not die out, however, and after President Garfield's inauguration it again took definite shape. One ot Secretary Blaine's first acts was to issue invitations to Mexico and the Central and South American governments to meet in Washington. After Garfield's uutimelr death, Mr. Blaine's buccessor recalled the invitations; and the jroject again slumbered until a lew weeks jelore the expiration of President Cleve land's term, when Secretary Bayard pre sented tbe matter to Congress, the invita tions were reissued, and the result we know. This historic space, which has rejoiced under various names during the last three centuries, and is now most commonly known as the "Plaza 4c la Constitution," has been the scene of many stirring events. From its breast has emanated the growth ol art, science, religion and liberty. Most ol the wars have begun and ended here. Here Quesada unfurled, for tho first time, the" blood-red banner ol Bpain above the symbol of the Cross. During more than 200 years of viceregal rule it witnessed the workings of slavery, ot the Inquisition, the stake and the scaffold. Here Bolivar unrolled the flag of freedom. THE -WONDERFUL CATHEDRAL. On another side of the same square is the great Cathedral, a wonderful structure as to tsze, but not much to boast of in the line of architectural symmetry. It was begun shortly after tbe Episcopal See of Bogota was founded (in 1663, I believe); but its original builders did not seem to un derstand their business very well for the whole pile tumbled down, killing cores of people in its fall, on the very day it was to have been consecrated I About 30 years later the work was recommenced; and many alterations having been madjb at subsequent periods, by as many different architects from designs of their owri, the building has a singularly mongrel loot. Its facade rests upon a basement of sduare, hewn stones, slightly raised above thefatrio. Above the basement eight Doric pillars rise in a group, forming portals for tte side doors. Tbe entrance to the greatcentral door is between two fluted columnsof the Ionic order. Above the first story runs Wf 1 HH'IH'IH JijlTiil 1 M II 1 1 MTI tl ' I JtWIBti I r MATtOH 16, 1890. an elaborate cornice; and immediately below the cornice, in spacious niches over the side doors, stand colossal statues of St, Peter and St. Paul. THE OTHER PUBLIC PARKS. Not far away form Bolivar's statue is the plaza de las armas, 100 meters long, and traversed from east to west by the San Augustin river. On the northern bank is a pretty garden, of irregular shape because following the bends of the river; and on the opnosite side, beyond another flowery space, stands the fine old church and former monastery of San Augustin. Besides its religious history, which dates back nearly three centuries, this church is memorable for having withstood a siege ot three days' duration, in the revolution oflSGl. Scarcely second to this in historic interest is the Plaza de los Martires (the Martyrs) so named because within it have been exe cuted many of Colombia's patriots, politi cians, councillors, soldiers and statesmen, shot by the Spaniards during the bitter struggle for independence. Again and again has it been deluged with human blood which perhaps accounts for the fact that grass and flowers seem to grow more rankly here than elsewhere. It has also been the scene of several auto de les, in those earlier days when Bomish Inquisitors had power to burn alive those who dared to incur their displeasure. In tbe center of the plaza a lofty obelisk has been reared to the memory of "los Mar tires." The cornerstone of the splendid monument was laid in 1872 by Dr. Manuel Murillo, then President of the Eepublic; but tbe work was not completed until as late as Trujillo's administration. The beautiful statues that adorn its sides are the work ol the Italian artist, Zombardio. Then there is the Plaza de la Capuchins, surrounded on three sides by the finest private residences, and flanked on the other by the College oi Mercy and the ancient church of the Capuchina. Straight through tbe middle of this plaza runs a river, shaded on both banksby tall, ugly eucalyptus trees, said to be the first ever planted in Colombia imported by the monks, whose favorite promenade was along this stream at the sun set hour. OUR LADY OF THE CLIFF. Speaking of churches, one of the most curious in Bogota is that which shelters "Our Lady ot the Cliff." Like other in tensely Catholic communities this has its miraculous Virgin, which corresponds to the Mexican Guadalupe, the French Lady of Londres, tbe Spanish Virgin de los Bemedios, or any other of the numerous forms in which the Mother of Christ is said to have revealed herself to man. The "Lady of the Cliff" was discovered by an Indian FE DE BOGOTA. carved on the face of an almost inaccessible precipice away up in the mountains. With infinite labor and expense the solid rock upon which the miraculous carving appeared was cut away from the peak and carried to Bogota, where a church was erected in its honor. The only Protestant place of worship in Bogota is the Scotch Presbyterian Mission house, which occupies a building that was originally constructed for a printing office. There are galleries along both sides and at the farther end are two very high windows, above the raised platform, which holds the reading desk ana a rather squeaky har monium. The services are mostly con ducted in Spanish, for the benefit of native converts, of whom, I am told, there are a considerable number. Aud queer enough it sounds to hear the samo old home-tunes, endeared bv so many associations "Bock of Ages," "Old Hundred," "Jesus, Lover of my Soul," etc. rendered with words ot another tongue, and the Lord's prayer re peited by the congregation: Dar nos este dio nuestro pan, "Give us this day our daily bread." Protestantism is protected in a measure, in common with all other forms of religion by the "Liberal" government. Trie more superstitious ol the people have a horror of all religions save their own. A former missionary in Colombia relates how a poor woman came to him one day, weeping and evidently driven to desperation by the pangs of hunger, bringing her baby in her arms, which she offered to sell to him "for the service of the devil," she fullv believing that the mission ot the Presbyterians was to gather in souls to his Satanic Majesty. BABIES DON'T COUNT FOR MUCH. The maternal instinct is by no means wanting; but among the more degraded the women have so many children and are so habitually hungry and hopeless that it is no wonder human instincts nearly die out of them. In some cases infauts 'are utterly neglected and left to shift for themselves soon as able to walk, to live or die, "assi Dios quere" (as God wills), as their parents would piously remark if questioned on the subject. An American gentleman tells me that he was riding one day in the suburbs when his horse accidentally ran over and killed a child that was lying asleep in the road, its dirty aud naked brown body com pletely hidden in the sand. Of course he was stricken with horror and remorse, and hunt ing up the mother, gave her all the money he happened to have about him (amounting to about $40), as a balm to assuage her grief. A few days later, riding along the same road, he saw ahead of him another child squatted in the sand in precisely the spot where the other was killed. Dismount ing to investigate, he discovered that tha little thing could not get out of the way, being securely tied in a flat basket. He did not run over any more babies. Throughout all Spanish-America the death of a child seems to be a matter of re joicing rather than of sorrow the idea being that the little one, not having arrived at years of discretion, must be without sin, and therefore in no danger of the torments of purgatory: whereas, had it been permitted to live longer "quien sabe" (who knows) what might have been its eternal future? The small corpse is spoken of by all as otra angelita, "another little angel." It is dec orated gaily with birds' wings, flowers and bits of gaudy paper, kept'in tbe house as long as possible, often a great deal too long; and its interment is celebrated by lively music, followed by a feast for all concerned and sometimes dancing. Fannir B. Ward. The severe pain incident to rheumatism is promptly relieved by Chamberlain's Pain Balm, and many very bad case have been cured by its continued use, CO cents per bottle. wibsu ENJOYING THE PLAT. A Glimpse of Famous Men and Women in the New York Theaters. MRS. CLEVELAND HIDES HERSELF. Gen. Sherman Always on the Loot on t for the Good-Looking Girls. A CONTRAST IN THU GOULD FAMILY rCOHIlESFOXDEN-CE or THE DISPATCH. 1 New York, March 15. Men and women of national celebrity can be seen at almost any performance in the leading New York theaters, and it frequently happens that opera glasses are leveled quite as much at tbe occupants of some particular box or seats as at the stage itself. The presence of well-known people at a playhouse is sure to be a drawing card, and shrewd managers make use of such a fact for advertising pur poses every time. Their attendance at a "first ni,'ht" is especially desirable, and it not infrequently happens at such a time that every box in the house is given gratui tously to celebrities. Ex-President and Mrs. Cleveland always occupy a box at the theater. Both are fond of the drama and are frequently seen at principal playhouses. Mr. Cleveland has no special preference for a box seat, and would probably prefer an orchestra chair to show his Democratic spirit, but he is alto gether too big and fat to occupy one with comfort. With Mrs. Cleveland the case is different. Shb resents the gaze of a crowd, and although more conspicuous in a box, she is also more remote lrom the people who scrutinize her as they would a freak in a dime museum. Every theatrical manager in the city knows that she has refused to attend performances altogether rather than sit in the body of the house. She gives in disputable evidence of her feelings by turn ing her back squarely upon the audience. Mr. Cleveland always sits behind his wife in an inconspicuous position. He leans back in his chair and pays close attention to the performance. He is chary of his applause, but occasionally claps his bands in a perfunctory war. Between acta he de votes himself to the ladies of bis party there are usually one or two besides Mrs. Cleveland bnt at the same time be finds an occasional opportunity to survey the audi ence through his opera glasses". He per forms this feat from a position where but few can see him. He and Mrs. Cleveland still receive more attention at the theater than anybody else in New York. SHERMAN PARTIAL TO BEAUTY. That grizzled old warrior, General Sher man, is an enthusiastic spectator of theatri cal performances. He has the entree to every theater in the city. He likes a seat well-down in front, for his eyesight and hearing are not as good as they were when he marched through Georgia. An expres sion of solid satisfaction and hearty enjoy ment fills his face as he watches the show. He is a good listener, and follows closely the unfolding of the plot. For the good looking girls of the company, too, be has an appreciative eye. Nothing delights him more than to be taken back of the scenesand be introduced to some performer who has caught his fancy. In his applause he is generous. He always appears in evening dress, and his well-known rngged face, promincmt nose and closely-cropped white beard look, much more familiarin a swallow tailed coat in these dysthan if gold braid andtenaulettes were beneath them. Jay Gould always sits in a box, and takes an upper one if he can get it. He is by no means a constant theater-goer. He is even moreretiringthan Mr. Cleveland, and rarely allows himself to be seen by tbe audience. Ho never applauds, bnt occasionally be comes so interested in the play as to emerge from his place of concealment and crane his neck over the edge of the box. When the exciting scene or striking tableau is over he seems to become suddenly aware of his con spicuous position, and quickly sinks into the background. NOT QUITE SO RETIRING. Young George Gonld is not so eager for concealment as his father. He sits boldly in the front ot the box, with his face in full view of tbe audience, or stands behind his wife, leaning back of her chair. He pajrs strict attention to the stage, however, as it is characteristic of the Gould family to al ways get the worth of their money. At the comedy touches he laughs heartily, but never applauds. He likes to look at the audience, and frequently divides bis atten tion between it and his party when the cur tain is down. Mrs. Edith Kingdon Gould Is directly the opposite of Mrs. Cleveland so far as objec tion to public scrutiny is concerned. When one of a theater party she invariably sits in tbe most conspicuous seat in the box. Whether unconscious! or not, she also sits in a position from which she can see the stage and the audience can also see her face. She cannot tbe called an enthusiastic spec tator, but seems to be studying the tech nical work of the players mure than listen ing to the play, a tact probably dne to the influence of "her past career. She engages in frequent conversation with her husband during the performance, and usually has a smile for every word he speaks. OCHILTREE AND HIS FRIENDS. Colonel Tom Ochiltree is a good listener. He extracts rare enjoyment from a clever performance, and he finds better ones in New York than he ever saw in Texas. He is always ready to lend a helping hand as regards" applause, and between acts likes to wander in the lobby and talk with friends. "Usually he can't take two steps without meeting any number of them. Colonel John K. Fellows, who didn't con vict the boodlers, likes a good minstrel show better than anything else in the show line. Merry Marshall P. Wilder is not like tbe majority of professionals when Ap the role ot spectators. He goes to 'the theater to enjoy himself, and it is a cold day when he (ails to do so, be the play good or bad. He never studies the acting or dissects the drama. At the thrilling passages he looks like a wondering schoolboy, and at the funny ones he leans back in his chair and emits a trne Wilderiati laugh. He is generous with his applause, and will help along an encore to the best of his ability. Mrs. Kendal has been a frequent attend ant at the metropolitan theaters Bioce her American tour began. She steals away to a matinee whenever she can do so, and although, of course, she is studying the art dramatic of this country, she apparently obtains hearty enjoyment in doing so. She is a sympathetic listener, and never lets a good point pass witnont applauding it. DEPEW'S MERRY TWINKLE. Chauncey M. Depew listens during the play and does his talking between acts. Often-times when his face is sternest he is keenly appreciating some clever or humor ous hit, aud it would require a 6lose observer to detect the merry twinkle in his eyes. When he claps his bands he does so with a vim. Mayor Grant is a great admirer of comedy. Colonel Eobert G. Ingersoll is a Shakespearian "crank," and never fails to attend a good production of any of Shakes peare's plays. He is an authority on the subject himself, and those who have heard him wax eloquent over the great dramatist have enjoyed ohe of the rarest of treats, as Shakespeare is one ot the few subjects ot which the famous agnostic never tires. At the theater he keeps up a steady fire of criti cism, observation and wit, qnite as inter esting to those with him as the play itself. Mrs. Frank Leslie and Ella Wheeler Wilcox are vivacious and interesting 33 well as. interested spectators. The latter becomes especially enthusiastic over a clever touch or thrilling climax. Sweet Brier. V&h0y'jk 'tttTO&YOir THE TWE WRITTEN FOR THE DISPATCH BY ELIZABETH STUART PHELPS, Author of "Gates Ajar," "Beyond the Gates," Eta, AND THE REV. HERBERT D. WARD. Continued From CHAPTER XIX. A HAPPY MARRIAGE IN JTJDEA. There was merriment in the house of Malachi. The people of Bethany were once again wending their ways to his now notor ious door.- Beady to forget a scandal for a feast and to forgive an unpleasant reputation for a frolic, the neighbors collected one bright winter day, and salaamed across the Phirisee's threshold politely in gala clothes. The occasion was no less than the marriage of his daughter. It was a question of much local interest when or how Ariella and Baruch had effected the preliminaries to this event Tbeir betrothal which was a solemn affair, according to the customs of their people, had taken place scarcely six weeks belore the marriage day; Malachi had surrendered to the situation by the hardest persuasion; but he had surrendered thoroughly. Malachi was a shrewd fellow, who took no long time to perceive the pit of unpopu larity to which he had dropped. Some thing must be done to retrieve himself among his neighbors and acquaintances. Why his very rentals had begun to decline! Gossip gave him the name of a hard man; and tenants were afraid of him. This would clearly never do. Malachi consulted what LAZARUS DEFIES he called his own soul, kept his counsel, confided in nobody, admitted nothing, but against the growing intimacyofhisdaughter and Baruch, to the amazement of Hagaar, he offered no protest. In tact he seemed to see or know as little as possible of the love affair, treating it with a cold indifference which would have wounded to the auick a daughter whose affection he had ever chosen to cultivate. When Hagaar timidly an nounced one night that Baiuch had formal ly made request for the hand of Ariella, her lather scornfully replied: "The girl is naught but a nuisance about the house since all this sorcerer's business hath set her against herowu flesh and blood. Let her marry the beggar if she will. I shall only be too glad to be rid of her." It was more difficult to say when the lovers themselves had reached the definite mile stone of marriage in their vague and some what aerial courtship. Tormenting and blessing each other by turns of devotion and withdrawal, they had at last come to the limit of a kind of spiritual ciprice who could tell how? They themselves, perhaps, least of all. Pate had led them by strange wavs into the common human circumstance of fortunate love. Marriage, tor so long im possible, nay, the inconceivable in their afflicted lives, was the last thing to make itself practicable, nay, the last, perhaps, to make itself necessary to their new and happy lot. The possession of the simplest human faculties tbe unregarded preciousness of sight, the unestimated mercy of the power oflocotnotion treasure so usual that other loving men and women noted it not this was paradise enough at first for Baruch and Ariella. The thrill ot health, the delirium of vi sion, the late sweet consciousness of having become like other of God's creature?, here was the fruit upon tho tree of life. Slowly they came to the knowledge of the good and the evil in unshared experience. They ar rived at the necessity of uniting their bless ednesi, by those almost unapparent stages which sometimes make the period of court ship as delicate and fair as the prism in an opal, and sometimes crowd it with sharp pangs and perils that go too far to destroy its delight. At any rate, however, thejr did it; they came to the old familiar turn in the winding road of love, and, insensibly, as one foot follows another in a long march, they pissed with extraordinary sensitiveness into ordi nary happiness. The wedding of Ariella was a great event in the hamlet of Bethany. Her father un expectedly developed a stubborn vanity in tbe matter, and insisted on as much show as possible; partly, Hagaar suspected, as a taunt to the proverty of the bridegroom, who naturally, poor lellow, had not so much as a trade yet, to show for himself; though he had prospective opportunities to acquire the delicate handicraft of constructing musical instruments; for which both his taste and his refined fingers were well adapted. But at all events Ariella was ceremoniously married. The girl bore herself through the gayeties of the evening like a white flower, still and sweet. There was something singular about her beauty, which seemed less bndal than celestial ts look upon. The rudest eye re garded tbe pale, slight, serious bride with reverence; and the rudest tongue which alas", sometimes gave itself freedom at tbe weddings of those times was bridled before her. "Verily," said Martha, tbe widow of Simon the LeDer. "the marriage ot those twain is like nnto themarriage of two IImy 'i Ufpfw l$$i4& PAGES 17 TO 20. Last Sunday. ghosts. This wedding seemeth to me like the rising rom tbe dead." "It seemeth to me as happy as a resurrec tion," said Mary smiling, "if that be tha meaning of thy thought." Tbe pleasant tumult, the laughter and jesting, song, music, dance and feasting circled about Barnch like tbe movement of fays, or beautiiul witches or beings of an other race. He found it to be confusing to become akin to bis kind, by all this com monplace festivity. It made him silent, like a spectator. Yet, perhaps, Baruch liked it all well enough, in his own way. The goodliest saint has a throb of pleasure in finding himself forced to share in human merriment like other people. Baruch looked on with a remote smile. He heard the quick, soft breath of Ariella. He took her by the hand, before all' the world; he trazed upon spiritual beauty, intoxicated. What eye that was used to seeing could look coon a bride like that? As one stirreth in a vision, Baruch jd her from her father's house. The procession - K THE HIGII PRIEST. formed in swift, bright links to bear her away. The home of his mother would re ceive the bridegroom and bride. Chapleta of myrtle crowned the heads of the bridal party. All the flowers that theseason would yield were showered before their happy feet. 'Periumes filled the air. Timbrels sounded shrilly. Sweet singers chanted love songs. The light-bearers bore brazen and carven lamps filled with scented oil, and fastened to the top of poles. These flickered gently upon laughing faces and rich robes, and tha wavering outline of dancing figures. "Impossible," thought Ariella, "that this bride is I." It seemed to her every mo ment as if she should make a misstep -stumble and fall back on that bed of mis ery, that nine years' old grave, and lie there helpless, hopeless, aching, and start and sob because she had waked out of such a pretty dream. "Impossible," said Barnch, "that thir en raptured man is I." He looked at Ariella. Her long, fair hair flowed like sunlight down her shoulders; it rippled in the light breeze, like a brook. Her veil was of sitver white tissue, half transparent and shining. Her delicate throat waa visible. A chain of golil encircled it. The chain stirred with theheavingof her breast. Her hands and white arms trembled. Baruch said to him self: "I shall turn my bead and darkness will blot it all out. Tbe vision will shatter before me. I shall strain my sightless eye balls till they burn into my'brain. I shall move in blackness. I shall be guided of a lad upon a solitary way." Bnt when he saw the lad Enoch verilr standing npon his valuable head, in a prom inent place at the front of the procession, and wearing his chaplet of myrtle npon one wagging foot, Baruch concluded his situa tion possessed the elements of reality. He recovered himself and crushed the hand of Ariella, like any common bridegroom, and was only uncommon in tbit that he blessed uuu uecuue ot nis eanaiv joy, ana remem bered that it was of heaven. In the bliss of Ariella and Barnch there was one sturdy disappointment. First la tbeir thoucht had been the great benefactor o their afflicted and blessed lives. To wel come him among the marriaee guests would have added the last throb to delight and tha last prayer to the sacrcdness of the hour. His benediction would have brought their joy to its highest and most solemn level. The rabbi might even have married them, Ariella thought Bnt the rabbi was not to be found. He was traveling in distant vil lages, followed by blessing and malediction, by trust and suspicion, by adoration and enmity, by a few faith nl friends and a fickle crowd; by the scorn of the socially influential, the espoinage and hatred of ecclesiastics, by the loving tears and smiles of the poor, the sick, the crippled, unlucky, unhappy, of the outcasts, erring, and de spised of men. The rabbi was about what he called his Father's business. These were strange words to the followers who so blindly loved, but so darkly comprehended that mystical life. Perhaps few were constituted so as to have understood them better than these two young people, whose experience of snfferinjj had refined both the Imagination and the spiritual vision necessary to tbe case. Yet their conception of it was vague and poor enough. As one looks back npon that sublime history, the most touching thing abont it seems to be the heart-breaking soli tariness of the man; whose nearest friend could not apprehend his simplest motive. His motive tor not appearing at the mar riage festivity of Ariella and Barnch wa mwJfim 1 1 A f