Evening public ledger. (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, December 18, 1920, NIGHT EXTRA, Page 4, Image 4

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Fvlloirinp it the ramptrtc text of the
mnjeton mane by nank Jnmri of the
murder of Davut S. I'nuJ, lhF Camiten
bank runner-
. "Statement of Frank .1. .Inmes, tnken
in Mount Holly Jail. November S. 1(120.
at 7 '30 p. m. Present: Prosecutor
Wolverton, the witness nnd the stonog- i
".. . , ,
, "Hy Mr. Wolverton : Question-- I
.li.Mr ,rnmrs' Hn ,l h"',,.tn,,,.,n."i
,. t n.,0.TlHi"n, "l' '""'' J" '
you, I nm the prosecutor of the rounty I
county, nnd ns such It .111 be my duty
to prosecute those who nre responsible
lor the murder of I)aId Paul ou nre
one of the persons who nre charged with
having committed thnt crime nnd I
desire to inform you that under those
circumstances you do not have to make
any statement If you do not wish to;
whatever you sny. if ynu say anything
at Ml, can he ued against you n court,
u win in- nru ..K....m jo.i in ki.mii
uv imiURin Living limb it .'V1 v tit j
statement to tnnko In Hnswer to nny
questions I might ink. with the knowl-
tvlge thnt you do not have to do so. t
must he voluntnrj n our part and It
can be used ncnlnst m in court.
'Now. under those circumstances, do
you wish to mnke nu iidditionnl stnte
ment to whnt you hnve previously suld
when I hne usked you questions at
ether times when Mr. Horry (stenog
rapher) hn-t been here, concerning the
acts kurroumling the death of Mr.
Paul?
Willing to MiUie Statement
A. "Yes, sir."
Q. "What Is it ou desire to say?"
A. "Why. I guess you hud better
tek me question. Mr. Wolverton. Ques
tion me. I hardly know what to say.'.'
Q. "On the day you went to the
ferrv with Mr Paul in the enr, was
Bay'mond Schuck with you?"
A. "He was "
Q. "For what purpose did you go to
the ferry with Mr. Paul that day?"
A. "To try to get the money."
Q. "Whnt money ilo you moan?"
A. "The money thnt Paul wns
carrying "
Q. "How did you know he carried
Bioney?"
A. "He told mo."
Q. "When?"
A. "At previous times."
Q. "Ilnd he ever told you the amount
thnt he carried?"
Knew Piiul Hal Money
A. "He told me one day that he car
ried, had with him at that time,
$:i.",ooo."
Q. "How long was thut before this
crime?"
A. "Two or three weoks."
Q. "On the day In question, you (.ay,
Sou went with the intention of getting
ic money?"
A. "Yes. fir."
Q "Kid you hnve nnj understanding
With Itnymond Schuck in the matter'.'"
A. "I did."
Q. "When had the arrangement b"cn
made?"
A. "The day before."
How Plot Wiw Framed
Q. "What hnd you snid to him and
whnt did he sny to you nbout It?"
A "Well. I hnd talked to him several
times previous about getting the money. I
and I think on .Mominy w- were to me
him to the ferry."
Q. "On tin day before this?
A. "Yes. I think :t wns."
Q. "Did you have in mind the taking
of the money on the day before you
took him to the ferry?"
A. "Yc? "
Q. "Why didn't you it?"
A. "I don't know why. any more
thnn I don't know why we did it the
day we did."
Q What arrnngement had you made
the day before with Schuck. as to what
you would do the following ilay ?"
Details I.cft to Chance
A. "To meet him nt his office nnd to
trv to get the money in omr wuy "
Q "Whnt time were you to meet him I
at the office?" I
A. "I think l.J'.O." I
Q. "Where in Lis oitice?"
A. "n Third street near Federal; it
was to mret Mm on I Iitnl below
Fed I
tral mil rliat H wnere I wn- t!.:r
day."
Q. ' Did you meet him there?"
A. "Yes. tr. '
0. "You mi.v that wns n result of u
fJMHH cms 'iriiiugement with lain?
A. ' os, sir. I
JL-
( "To get the money from Paul mi! ,Q
that pnrtn ular day : . it?-'
A. "Yes. sir. ' ' Q- '
Q. "When you met him. were urn "n ""!
driving Mur .-Hr'' i
v.. . :- . w i.
Q.
were
A
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
1 mi an when you nut Schuck
jou .Irn .n: .nir .ir-'"-"I
w.i stain ling "
"And who took the wheel?"
"Sihueli "
"Where did you Hit'"
"Alongside of him."
Tells of Fatal Meeting
Q. "Wl.ete did M'U no 1 1 j'.iul?"
A "On Second -treet i.enr Arch."
Q. "Did you have nn arrange ment
to met Paul on that dn t that time?"
A. "At I-" North S .oiid street."
Q. "For .t.u: purp..i '"
A. "II. mule arrangements with me!
to tllke hllil I'. I'lllllld. Iphlli " '
Q. "Did '! Mi Si Inii k of having
XXlUflt: ines. H' r.LI.K.'.l '111
A. "I ''.ma 1 ie, y.s sir '
Q "Wnere 'nd y "u Mt when Paul
got into the car''"
A. "Ir. tl e hacr- mt -
Q. "And who t".k ilie front sent11"
a. "Pu-r
.".! . of S'll'iek
rt did he bine the
Q. "And
A he
money ?"
A. "With hi
6. "And ir
what form a the
money?"
A. "In a pa. k.ige '
Q. "Did inn -'op nny pin' on your
iray to the ferry
A
'Fmnt and Market."
Q.
A.
Q.
A
Q.
with
"For w hat n i.os,.''"
"Paul weit t tin hnnlt rhere."
"Was he .n 'i.. re ver long?"
"Iu tin re Mt ii minute or so,"
"Did h 'like a pael.uge of money
him1'"
"He did '
A.
Q.
did he
A.
0.
And when ! .. '-nine ..,.t. where
sit, in what part of the car?" i
"Alongside of m huck " i
"Did you driie to th" ferry from i
that point''
A. "Yes.
Describees Trip to Ferry
Q. "What course did you tnW
A. "Mark.t stieei io the parking
place nt Market .treet ferry
Q. "Whei-e is the parking plu"'."
A. "Ha k of the shuts "
Q. "ou wir. not told to go that
WBy, were you, ,.n that day ''"
A. "It wa a 'Htoin of mine of al
ways going 'her'
Q. "IIow did the . usinin originate'-"
A. "Ht parkin Hie mr there nrnl
folng out tin little gate t . go i. cross
the ferry
Q. " In the ila i
go there for ti i pin
car or becinie n oi
(iiitmn did you
se "f parking t'.e
I Le a good plnce I
to get the Ii Din'' .'
IIow Paul Was Felled
A, " I'" '"' .nteiitmn
ii g.-itlt.g
the inninw
Q. "What did jou do after
ot down ha. k of the .shells?"
tile
car
A. "Wr slopped "
Q. "And then wli.it look plan?
A. "I lilt P.111I."
- O, "Thvii what look plite'"
TEXT OF FRANK
, A "Then Schuck cot hold of him
and throw him In the bark with me."
). "Then what did jou do?"
A. ..-mon .W1 rMchi fr hU RUn
nnd I hit him with th Iron."
Q "Where did you get the Iron
from?"
A. "Krom under the sent."
i- "Then where did you to or what
did you dot"
Al "l 'nW " ' drive to the
Coojmt Hospital and he new answered
nM,
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'l)rh him i Mn, I i.i u.. ...
m , bietillnf I ild I
,w or fhrfl ,,
lo m 'iina. - ... ,.
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l said "I lurry
inil I'aiiI kim
in m 'Iff..... .. . I . ji .i..
, W. . ,T .. ,1, J ,h'".,
so'me Z)& JZuh1
ferry am! nn niti.i . .. .
t) -m So,'rk fntPf ,'', ,
thnt con-
vcrsntlun In any way1
d
I q. ,.n whftt took ph.'
A. ..Thrn ,p mv,p anoth. fffmt ,
m s cim ,, ,, hlm Bt,un,..
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."ja .-vnurK a, .irmwi
Q. "Where were you at that time?"
A. "I don't know where we were,
nlong Cooper street I think we wen,
some place."
(. "And where wns the money nt
this time?"
A. "I don't know whether Schuck
hnd thrown It in the buck or whether
it wns alongside of him."
Q. "Did Schuck hnve nny Implements
or instruments of nny kind?"
A "I think he hnd a small revolver
in his est pocket."
Says Shuck Hit Paul
Q "What course did you tnke ns
you wont mm ay from the sheds?"
A "We went out Delnwnre nvenue to
Cooper. I think It wns, nnd out' Cooper,
I think. 1 don't know. In the excite
ment I didn't notice."
Q. "After you went out Cooper
where did you go?" A. "To Marlton
pike to Federnl street nnd then to
Mnrlfon pike."
Q. "Whnt course did you tnlte
then?" A. "A short distance on the
Marlton pike nnd then turned into For
rest Hill Park."
Q. "Did you stop nt nny point?"
A. "As we left Forrest Hill Park we
stopped."
Q. "For whnt purpose?" A. "I
was all eslmusiVd from fright nnd ner
vousness nnd told Schuck. and he took
the iron nnd hit Pnul himself twice."
Q. "Hnd Pnul made nny comment
nt that time?" A. "1 think he did
say. 'All right, take the money nnd let
me out.' In a faint wny." '
Q. "Wns it before he snid that or
nfter he snid thnt Schuck hit him?" A.
"Hefore Coh nok hit him."
Said He Might Shnnt
O. "Did you hit him nny time nfter
he hnd snid to let hfm out?" A. "No.
sir."
Q. "Why did Schuck hit him?"
A. "I don't know. He stopped the cnr.
I said .omothing to him I don't know
hausted nnd he hnd better help me, or
something, or he would shout me
something like thnt."
J. "Who did you menn by 'he'
would shoot you?" A. "Pnul would
shoot me."
Q. "I understood you to say that
he hnd jimt spoken in a ory fnint
voice." A. "I know, hut that Is what
I snid to Schuck."
Q. "Was It then thnt Schuck took
the iron?" A. "It was."
Q. "How man times did Schuck hit
him? A. "Twice.'
Q. "Where?" A. "In the hend."
Q. "Where wns Schuck stnnding or
what was he doing?" A. "Leaning
over the front sent.
Q. "Where were you?"
A.
got
"In the
in the
I bnck seat. I Immediately
Iront sent with Schuck.
Q. "And where did you go?" A.
"Out Knighn ateniie to the Mnrlton
pike "
Q. "And from there whnt course?"
A. "To Medford."
Q. "Then where did you go?" A.
"Through the pines."
Q. "What did you do when
reached the pines''" A. "When we got
to thi
s itf-tination we took Pnul of! in
t lie woods
there.
Woodstalns on Car
Q. "Was the car marked in any way
from what had taken phi'-e in it? ' A.
"Yes."
What markings were there on
A. "Hloodstain- "
Where?" A. "On the door and
tloor."
Did you toko nny steps to re-
l
movethe stains A. ies. sir
'. ii l.ni . .1 I ii ii-. I i.p i irtlll
mem nun tore on tne cnnnioarii on oi .
the door, the left hand door " '
Q. "Where did ii throw it nr what
did you do with it?' A. "I threw k ,
nuiiv " '
them nnd tore off the cardboard off of
nwiiv."
I. "Where? A. "Near where we
laid Paul "
Q. "Wns the tnpe that wns around
the left door also thrown iiwnv there?"
A. "I think so. res." -
Q. "Did mu tnke the curtains down
or lenre them 01. the rmoksl.l,. Mir -
tnlnsv" A.
I forget where we took
I "" '
the curtains off.
Q. "The were on
. ,i rim. rhnt
U the.time thut,
1 ' s. i
this took plare''" A. '
Q "I mean, nt the tune
that the;
thebftikj
weren't
jlIfJ w
ere sfrnek at the ferry.
and side (iirtnins were up,
they'1" A "Yes."
Put Hody In Woods i
Where ,11,1 .mi nut the body?"
Ii
I a fn th.. woods ns I snv above Med
A.
f rd I don't
l.now or didn't know
win re it was."
Q "And Low far in the uoods did
mu go from the road where vou left th"
.nr-' ' A "Possibly ten feet "
Q "And how did you get the body in
there''" A. "Carried It there, draggid
' it in."
I. Q "Did you do it?" A. "Schuck
nnd I."
I (.,. "Whin mu cime hack where did
yo j go''" A "W, enrne back U the
1 clubhouse nt I 'le'nei.ton. '
i Q "For w'.at purpose?" A. "To
, hide tne inonei '
I Q 'On the v.a h.i. k did you throw
itnwhlng away?" A. "No, Mr, not on
"U" wav Lack
Q "What became of the im-truineiit
thnt you hi.. used?" A. Oh, I threw the
irn jwny, ves.'1
,i "What kind of nn iron wns it
'that you struc'i him with'' A. "Half,
of a -ort of a nnlf-spnng
Q "When was It usually kept?" A.
"I 'tlder the sen "
Q "Did "u 'I" anything lsi to Paul
other than nit I 1m with your tit fiud'
i then with tln iron bur''-' A. "Ah I ny,
going out the in!." I had a revolver'
and it wouldn't work, I jut leaned
bm k there, and I .ii in 't see where Ii
I wii- "hooting. I don't know whether I I
! shot him i r ni t '' j
i i, "IIow ninny tunes did you
.hoot ' A 1 w i i
i, "What whs your purpose In
' shnotliigfll" A. "(iulng to shoot my
self."
J. "Did jnu point .'.ie gun nt your
self?" A. "Nn, it wouldn't work
no, I tried that."
). "Well, jou sny jou shot twlre;
who wore ynu pointing at" A. "I
shut in the hack of the ear."
i. "Did it go Into the cnr or out of
the car, or where?" A. "1 couldn't
say where It went."
0. "Was It nn effort to shoot
Paul?" A. "No, because lie wns
dead."
o "nd on your way Lnik in
J. JAMES' CONFESSION OF PAUL MURDER
throwing the Iron bnr out did It do any
dnmnge to the car'" A. "I broke my
windshield "
l. "And you sny yon went to the
bungnlow nt Clcmeuton"? A. "Yes,
Sought to HMe Money
Q. "Who sugested going there?"
A. "Schuck."
Q. "For whnt purpose?" A. "To
hide the money."
Q. "About whnt time did you
there?" A. "It was, I think,
reach
faome-
wnere around o clocK.
Q. "Whnt time had jou met Paul?"
A. "About li'-M) or 1 :1S, I think It
wiis."
Q. "Did you leave the money nt the
bungalow?" A. "No, lr."
Q. "Why not?" A. "We didn't
think It wns a very good place to
leave It."
Q. "Did y iu go Into the bungalow?"
A. "Yes."
Q. "Did you leave any stains there
in any way, of blood?" A. "I don't
know thnt 1 did, no, sir; if I did I
didn't know It."
Q. "Whnt pnrt of the bungnlow were
jou In?" A. "t'pstalrs."
O. "For whnt?" A. "To undo the
package."
Q. "And where did you alt when you
undid the package?.' A. "On the bed?"
Q. "Whnt pnrt of the bed?" A.
"Pnrt of the foot of the bed."
Slnyers Counted Money
Q. "Were you fnclng the window
thnt looks out nt the front of the cot
tage?" A. "I think so."
O. "And where did Schuck sit?" A.
"Alongside of me. I don't know
whether he nt down or I did or not
myself ; we had the package on the
bed."
Q. "Did you open It nt that point?"
A. "Yes."
Q. "Did either of you take any of the
money?" A. "1 don't think we did
then.
Q. "Did you count how much there
wns there?" A. "No. sir."
1). "Wns there anything to Indicate
now much? A. There was two
slips, I think, nnd one snid 10.000,
'i ml the other one SfiOOO."
Q. "What were the denominations of
the 'bills?" A. "Twenty dollars, tens
and fives."
Q. "Were the wrappings on the bills
chunged in uny wny? A. Schuck
must hnve done It."
Q. "Did he do it nt the bungnlow?"
A. "No. sir."
Q. "Where did he do It?" A. "I
don't know, unless he done It nt home,
Q. "Did you wrap It up again In the
newspaper A. cs.
Went to Iluy New Shirt
O. "And where did you go then" A
"From there to Wetvllle, where 1
houcht a new shirt."
O. "From whom did you buy It?"
A. "I don't know who It was; It was
on the main street.
Q. "Whnt kind of shirt?" A. "A
white shirt with blnck stripes.
Q. "How much?" A. "It was $1. 2.1,
something like thnt."
Q. "Did you mnke nny other pur
chases there?" A. "A rollnr."
Q. "Whnt kind?" A. "A stiff collnr,
Q . "Do you remember the name?"
A. "I do not: no, sr."
Q. "Did you make any other pur
chases there?" A. "I don't remember
making nny."
Q. "Did you make any other pur
chases at any other nlace?" A. "No.
i from there we went to Schuck's house."
nioodstalns on Clothes
Q. "Did you mnke any purchases
don't remember where I bought the
underwear: I bought new underwear.
in.K.n.t.u u, fuij ..... t . n wti, k
'... t .1 .. 1 1 M
uui i uoii i rriut'iuivr wiiitp.
Q. "You don't remember whether It
was estville or lumuenr A. o.
I don't, Mr. Wolverton ; I don't remem
ber thnt."
Q. "Hnd you beet drinking?" A.
"No. sir."
Q. "Hnd you been tnlting any drugs?"
A. "No. sir, never did."
Q. "Well, why can't yoo remember?"
A. "The excitement. "
Q. "For what purpose did you buy
the shirt nnd eollnr nnd underwear?
I A. iney were stainea wnn moon.
Q, "Were there any stains on your
clothing?" A. "Yes. sir." '
Q. "Where?" A. "On my trousers
and the left coat arm "
Q. "Was there nny on your shoes
thut you knos of?" A. "No, sir' not
as I know of."
Q. "Where ltd you go nfter leav'ng
Westville?" A. "To Schuck'ls house. '
Q. "Was auy one home?" A. "No
sir."
Q. "Did you stop at your own house
the way there?'1 A. "No. sir."
,, ..,,., ,, . , ,.
", V.1".' dl(1J," do after you got
to Schuck s house A 'Put the money
down hack of the cellar steps,
Q- Who put It there?" A.
'. Q- ".no P
s!,1hll!7 ... .....
'J- A"" then what did you do?
A; "T? th?re t.v,PDt to et niJ- suit,
I ' '-oldberg s, Newton avenue and
' -l'!1".".',, n0"'-
: .;. " there nny money- taken out
.0.' th.'l I"kage at Hehiiok s house.'"
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Rftw" "i0 r,M- I think it was."
ti Wh(tt ljM10m,nnonr. A
...r,. ,.,.,.. a, .tin- van-
' " ""',-
Went to Tailor's
Q.What makes you think it was
S.'OO?" A "It had a wraoner on It nt
that time "
"A"'1 was the wrapper still on It
"fti you saw It put away in the eel
ar
. "Yes
Q
time
mil'
too
Did he take any money at that
A "Yes; I don't know how
I think he told me he tisik ?r00,
Q "Where
Si buck's"'" A
thiak It wns."
did you
"To the
go from
tailor's, I
Q "Where is the tnilnr located? A.
"Newton nwnue and Trenton nvenue."
Q "And foi what purpose did you go
there?" A. "I hud a suit there being
ptis.wl and cleaned, to get It to
change "
ii. "IIow did you go into the place
and not show that blood wns on your
clothing?" A. "I had n light coat nnd
pur it on."
i "Where is thnt light cont now?"
A. "I don't know-; It wns in the Ford
the last time I saw It; I think that Is
wlii re it wus."
Q "What kind of suit wns it that
had the blood stains on?" A. "It wns
a dark suit with a green stripe."
i "And what kind of shirt?" A. "A
w lute shirt."
Q. "Plain?" A. "Yes. sir."
Threw Clothes In Creek
Q "What kind of a collar?" A.
"A Dudley eollnr. 1 "
. "What did jim do nfter you hnd
obtained this suit from the tailor?" A.
"I think we went back to Schuck's
bouse again , I think that Is where I
changed."
Q. "You are sure it wns at Schuck's
house that you changed?" A "Y'rs ;
the lirst time I went to the tailor's he
didn't hnve it pressnl, nnd I went to
the office nnd changed my shirt there,
mid I went bnck to the tailor's again
and he had it pressed, nnd I went down
to Schuck's house nnd changed my suit
there."
Q. "Wns nny one home nt that
time?" A. "No, sir; not either time."
Q "After chnnglng the suit, what
did you do''" A "I wrnmicd the suit
up and wrnpped the curtains up at the
name time nnd drove out Kulglin avenue
to Cooper'a creek and threw them In
the creek."
Q. "Did you take nny means to make
It sink?" A. "Hohtirk put a brick In
my suit, or (tot me a brick. We both
tied It u
ft
Q. "Did you throw anything els
overboard?"
A. "The side curtain."
Q. "Why
away?" A.
think."
did you threw them
"They were stained, I
Q. 'Did you throw anything elie
nvrrooarar , A. "."So, air.
Engaged Taxltab
Q. "And then where did you go?'
A. "Went to 00 North -Second ant
left the enr. "
Q. "Who" was there when you left
It?' A. "One of the vminr men.
brothers that runa It, his name Is Frauk
iiranununi, or some such name."
U,. "Then where did you go?" A.
"ent to Federal street ferry and got
a lord and he drove tin ilntvn n Hn-.
ond and Kalghn avenue and over Kalghn
nrciiue icrry, anu Ol lltcentn or Hlx
tecnth and Market we got out and went
to a restaurant."
Q. "Do you know whose Ford It
wns?" A. "No, sir, I do not."
Q. "After you left the restaurant
where did you go?" A. "We went and
got In a taxlcab at Ilrosd Street Sta
tion." J). ''Both of you together?" A.
Yes."
q. "Then where did you go?" A.
" e drove up around Uroad and Olrard
avenue, then we tried to find a place
that I though was Eighteenth and
Hrown. We couldn't find It. Then
we afterward went down to I think
It was on Seventeenth and Eighteenth
street near Iluttonwood, and he took
us In a saloon there. We aat drlnlt
there, met one woman and the man'a
wife. Then some time after that there
was another woman rnme In. when
bchuck and myself and the two women
went somewhere on Oreen street, I think
It was around Eighteenth nm! fi-een
nnd stayed .nil night."
Hnd Car Itrpalred
Q. "And when did you last leave
the house on Oreen street that you hnve
Just mentioned?" A. "I think It was
Wednesday morning some time."
Q. "Did Schuck stay all night
also?" A. "Yes."
Q. "Did you go away together?"
A. "Yes."
Q. "And where did you go?" A.
"I don't know what time we came out
of that house : I know we came down
to the ferry Wednesday night."
O. "Where did on irn then?" A
"I went home; I went to the gnrogc
nnd got the cnr."
Q. "Where did you tnke the car?"
A. "I took it to the Mount Ephrnlm
garage."
Q. "Ily whom is thnt conducted?"
A. "Hy r forget his name."
Q. "Is It Mr. Albertson?" A.
Albertson, Mr. Albertson."
Q. "Did you know him previous to
taking the cnr there?" A. "Yes."
Q. "Whnt reason did you hnve for
taking the car to him Instead of to
Johnson at the Hrooklnwn garage
where you were In the habit of keeplug
the car?" A. "Thinking he was a
better mechanic."
9' .VWh"t rinMrs did you have him
make? A. "I hnd a new top, s-new
wimioniroi, new carauoarrt in tne door.
new rear nxlc. radius rod I think some
new pnrts in the front wheels he told
me were worn.
Q. "Did vou order n neu.- lining on
the left-hand rear door In the plnce of
ine one you nna thrown away?" A.
"Yes."
Told of Delng on Party
Q. "Did you tell him how ir lmri nr
the rensnn thnt it wasn't there?" A.
I don't think I did; no, sir."
Q. "Did you make anv extilnnntinn
to him as to how the windshield had
gotten broken?" A. "I don't remember
whnt I told Mr. Albertson."
Q. "Did you tell him thnt ynu had
been on a pnr'y?" A. "I think I told
him thnt, yes."
Q. "Did vou tell him that vou didn't
have the same clothes on that you went
away with?" A. "I think I said some
thing like that to him; I don't remem
ber what I said."
Q. "Did he take you from the ga
rage home that evening?" A. "Yes."
Q. "And by whut. menns?" A. "He
took me In my Ford to the club."
0. "Whnt club?" A. "The rirownlni-
Itond Community Club."
O. Did jou see nnvbodv there vnu
knew?" A. "Mr. Dcttra.,?
Q. "Did you hnve nny convention
with Albertson on the rond going over
ns to you might hnve trouble with jour
wife?" A. "I might have snid she
would be nngry or some such remark."
Q. "Did you say where you could go
If she wouldn't hnc you?"
Told Wife of nail Game
A. "I did not. no sir."
Q. "When jou went home that eve
ning wher,e did you tell your wife jou
had been the previous evening?" A.
"I think I told her I was to the ball
game in Brooklyn ; I think that is what
I told her."
Q. "You mean at the world scries'
game?" A. "Yes."
Q. "Where did you go on Thurs
daj ?" A. "Thursday morning I went
to Philadelphia with my son, bought an
overcont. pnir of nhoes nnd stockings."
Q. "Did you see Schuck?" A. "I
met Schuck at Seventeenth and Wal
nut; I think It wns."
Q, "Was your son with you at the
time?" A. "No, I left him at !)
o'clock."
I). "Did you have any engagement
to meet Schuck at that time?" A. "I
did. yes, sir."
Q. "And for what purpose?" A.
"I don't know whether It wns to bring
more money or to let me know what was
whnt."
Q. "Did he bring nny money that
morning?" A. "I don't remember
whether he did or not."
Q. "Where did you two go?" A.
"We walked around quite a while. I
don't know whether we got in nnother
tmlenh that day or not. '
i Q.- "I hi you remember where you
1 spent Thursday evening?" A. "In n
house. I thlnK. that wns on Oreen street
i or Mount Vernon street, one of those
streets."
TV'lls of Meeting Olrls
Q "Wns Schuck with you?" A.
"Yes. sir."
(. "Where did jou meet those girls t
"I think a tnxlcnb took us there,
too."
O. "Did you stay there nil night?"
""Thursday night I think we did.
yes."
Q. "Do vou remember whether Schuck
did?" A. "Yes, I think he did. Thurs
day night."
(). "Wns he with you on Triday
night where were you on Friday?"
A. "I don't rememteer where we were
Friday."
Q. "Were you together A. "The
snme place, I think, yes, sir."
Q. "Do you remember where you
were Frldny night? A. "I think we
stayed nt the same plnce Frldny night
we did Thursday night."
Q. "Did Heliuck nt nny of these times
visit the girl whose name is Mary who
lives in West Philadelphia?" A. "On
Thursday on Friday lie nut; yes, he
enme in Inte Frldny night. He went out
sometime In the afternoon."
Q. "Are you sure It was Frldny
night or Tliursdny night he met this
girl?" A. "I nm suro ;i su either
Thursday or Friday
g. "V.uat nignt was it you were nt Q, "Did either ot you make any com
the Colouucdc Hotel?" A "Saturday ' ments to each other when you saw it?"
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night, or Friday night, I'gueM that
ngnt nnd Thursday night is tne nigni
he met the lrl."
Q. "Well, what were you doing? Did
he May all night, do you remember?"
(V. ' .No,' sir; he come back to this house
around 12 o'clock."
Q. "Did he slny there until the next
day, Friday?" ,A. "Yes."
. "Then on Friday, whnt did you
do?" A. "I don't remember, nny
more than staying ot this house. Friday
Afternoon, sometime Friday afternoon,
then wc hired ft taxlcab and met one
girl at Broad and Oxford. I think It
was around there, nnd we drove down
town and got a friend of hers, and then
we went to the Colonnade later in the
vening."
I'kkI Fale Name
Q. "Did vou both reglMcr at the
Colonnado?' A. "Yes."
Q."I)o you remember under what
name you registered?" A. "I rrglstered
ai frank Johnston; that Is my middle
name." ,
Q. "Did Bchuck register under his
own name or some other name?" A.
"I think aome other name." Q. "From
what place did you reglsterF' A. "I
think I put Clayton. New Jersey."
Q. "Do you know what he put?" A.
'No, I don t j I am not sure about that,
either, whether I put Clayton, or what
It was."
Q. "You sav you stayed there all
night?'' A. "Yes, sir."
O. "Whnt time ,111 vnn lesre on Sat
urday?" A. "I thlnk'lt was quite late.
around 10 o'clock, something like that."
, Q. "Did fichuck leave with you?" A.
"Yes, air."
Took TxJ Ride In Morning
Q. "After you had breakfast, wh
did you go?'' A. "Wc didn't h
here
ave
breakfast."
Q. "Where did you go?" A. "We
hnd a small lunch brought up to the
room ; I think It was coffee and crul
lers; something like thnt."
Q. "Did you both hnve the stune
room, or adjoining rooms?" A. "No;
they weren't adjoining. I don't know
where he ffMj another part of the
hotel."
Q. "In whose room did you hnve the
lunch?" A. "My room."
Q. "Where did you go when you left
there on Saturday?" A. "We got a
taxienb ngnln, nnd d Ithink I rode out
ns fnr ns rtlxtysccond nnd Market,
where Schuck got out nnd went home."
Q. "Did you make nny nrrangementt
to meet his ngnln?" A. "The snme
plnce. Snturdnv nlirht. nt hslf-nnst 7.
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Q "And did you meet him there?"
A. "I did; yen."
Q "Wns there any one with you?"
A. "Yes, sir; this girl that I had met
Saturday or Friday."
Q. "Did she see you meet him?" A.
"Yes."
Q. "Did he have any one with him?"
A. "No, sir."
Got tfOOfl More
Q. "Did he bring any money to
you?" A. "Yes."
o. "How much?" A. "I don't
know."
Q. "Did you tell him to bring It?"
A. "I think I did."
Q. "What kind of money was it; in
whnt form?" A. "I think twenties,
tens and five-dollar bills."
Q. "IIow much haven't you counted
it?" A. "No, sir; I hnven't never
counted It: It must hnve been S.'hOOO."
Q. "Did the girl see you get the
money?" A. "No, sir."
Q. "Did you stay together, or did
you separate?" A. "No; he took a
ride, I think, for a while, then he came
back to Sixty-second nnd got on a trol
ley car and went to Camden."
Q. "And where did you go?" A.
"Falrmount Inn."
Q. "With the girl?" A. "Yes."
Q. "Did you stay there?" A. "Fn
til 12 o'clock. I think It was."
Q. "Then were did you go?" A.
"Hack to Green street."
Q. "And how long did you stay?"
A. "Until Sunday morning.
Q. "Then what did jou do?" A.
"I met the girl again Sunday after
noon." Q. "Then where did you go? home?"
A. "I went home Sunday evening."
Q. "Do you know who the girl is?"
A. "No. sir, I don't."
Q. "Did you give her any money?"
A. ."Around $120, I think it was."
Gave Girls Money
Q. "Did jou give any of the other
glrln money?" A. "Y"es, sir."
Q. "How much?" A. "Oh, I
eruldn't say."
Q. "Now. on Thursday night that
you were with the girls that you speak
of around Eighteenth street there, I
think you said, did jou telephane to
any one ns to where you were?" A.
"Yes, sir. I telephoned to Ward."
"Q. "What did you say to him'"
A. "Told him to tell my wife I wns
In Sehvnectndy, N. Y."
Q. "Who Is Ward?" A. "He Is n
neighbor of ourn In the village."
"Q. "Is he friendly with you and
your family?" A. "Yes, sir."
Q. "And did you hnve any other con
versation with him at that time?" A.
"I don't remember, only you told me
thnt I had told him that I had money
burled."
Q. "Do you remember whether you
did tell him that or not?" A. "I do
not, no. sir, I do not."
Q. "Do you remember having n eon
vcrsntlnn with him nbout you hnd
money enough now to back hlm In n
business thnt he wnnted to go into?"
A. "I don't know. I remember talking
something nbout business with him;
whether I told him or not I had money
buried I couldn't sny, because I hud
been drinking."
Q. "Do you remember telling hlm
thnt you hnd hnd your boy to Phlladel
phln that morning und bought him
clothes?" a. "I don't know, Mr. Wol
Terton." Called Fp Garage
Q. "Do you remember him nsklng
ynu whether ynu had the money with
you or not nnd you snid no. vou hnd
It burled?" A. "I couldn't answer
jou truthfully nbout thnt."
Q. "Did ynu have any conversation
with nny one else on Thursday?" A.
"Thursday evening I called the garage,
yes, sir."
Q. "And whom did you tnlk to?"
A. "I tnlked to Jim Ilrnndollnl. or
whntever his nnme Is."
Q. "Whnt did ynu tnlk nbout?"
A. "I asked him If anybody hnd railed,
nnd he told me Mr. Dnrnn. '
Q. "Did he say who Mr. Doran
wns?" A. "I knew."
Q. "Who wus It?" A. "A detective,
n Camden detective."
Q. "Did you ask the young man who
nnswered the phone whnt Doran
wanted?" A. "Then this John Plum
mer rump to the telephone.
I). "Did he tell you nbout Dornn
nlso?" A. "He told me Mr. Doran wnsJ
mere, yes. sir.
Q. "Did he sny what he wanted to
see you nbout?" A. "No. he did not,"
Q. "Did you know nt that time there
hnd been any publicity Klven to Pnul'a
disappearance?" A. "Yes."
Tallusd Only to Schuck
Q. "How did you lenrn thnt?" a.
"In the newspapers."
(J, "Did you talk of It to any one that
you were wun on any or tnese eve
witn on any or these
nlngs ' A. 'limy to rtriiuok."
Q. "Did he also we It 1 1 the paper?"
"V sir."
i " " -
IslA. "Yes, we did, but whnt It was I
couian t ten you. -
O. "Well, comlne bnck to the Sun.
day that you left this girl, did you
sny you went home?" A. "To my
father's house; jen."
Q. "Did you stay there for nny length
of time?" A. "Until Monday eve
ning." Q. "In the meantime did you see nnv
other folks of yours?" A. "My wife
came there .Monday at some time nnd
my father-ln-lnw."
Q. "Had you talked to your wife or
your falher-ln-law at nny time before
that Sunday?" A. "No. sir. I talked
to my fnther-ln-law Thursday night.
He told me to come on hoint;; my wife
was jvaltlng for me."
Q. "Wns thnt nfter you hnd talked
to the office and they hnd told you Do
ran was looking for you?" A. "Yea."
Doesn't Ilemember Phone
Q. "Can you tell me where you tele
phoned from that Thursday to both
Ward and your fathcr-ln-law and to
the office. Do you remember where the
phone wns?" A. "No, I don't, Mr.
Wolverton."
Q, "Well, was It In the house where
you were?" A. "No."
Q. "Or did you have to go out?" A.
"I telephoned to Ward Inter In the eve
ning from the house whore I was, but
when I telephoned to my fnther-ln-lnw
nnd the gnrnge was at the pay ntutlon."
Q. "I sny do you remember where?"
A. "The pay station?"
Q. "Yes." A. "It wns down nround
iront street nnd Olrard avenue."
Q. "And can ynu tell me where the
phone wus that jou telephoned Ward?"
A. "No; that wns on Oreen strcetmr
Mount Vernon street, some of those
street, I couldn't tell you."
Q. "When did you go home to jour
wife, on Sunday or Monday?" A.
'After I left your office on Monday
night."
Q. "And for what reason did vou
come to my office on Monday night?"
A. ' You were looking for me."
Q. "When you say my office, vou
"io" the prosecutoda office of Cam
den?" A. "Yes.'l
Q "Who did you see there?" A.
I first sow Doran nnd he took mc In
to sec you."
Admits Lying
A'. ... "hat did wo question you
about?" A. "About Mr. Paul."
Q. "Did jou gle us truthful an
swers nt that time?" A. "No, sir,
1 did not."
Q. "Where did ynu go nfter you left
our office?" A. "Went to my fnther-ln-law
n house nt Seventh nnd Line. My
wife wns there nnd hi drove us home
to my house In his cnr."
Q. "Did jou stay there Mondny
night?" A. "I did. yes."
0. "Whnt did you do Tuesdny.
which would be October 12?" A. "I
Just came up to Camden."
Q. "Did you see nny one on thnt
day nt the garage to whom you talked
about having been nt the prosecutor's
office the night before?" A. "I don't
remember whether I did or not. East
Inck I might probably have tnlked to
him about it."
Q. "Did you confide in hlm nny of
these facts nbout the Pnul fnnttcr?"
A "No sir "
Q. "Where" did you go Tuesdny?"
A. "Wednesday, I Just told you Tues
day." Q. "Y'es, but were you nt the office
nil day?" A. "Off and on. I think
I was.''
Q. "Do you remember whrro you
were on Tuesday night?" A. "I was
home."
Q. "And where did you go Wednes
day?" A. "I came up in Ward's cnr
on Wednesday morning."
Went to Schuck's House.
Q. "Did you see Schuck on Tuen
day?" A. 'l don't think T did on
Tuesday, I did on Wednesday, 1
think."
Q. "And how did jou come to see
him nnd where?" A. "I went nut to
his house In Ward's cnr nnd he nnd I
went down to the Mount Ephrnim
gnrnrge."
Q. "And how did ynu happen to
have Wnrd's cnr?" A. "He wns going
away, nnd he asked me to bring the cnr
bnck when I enme back."
Q. "Did you go to Schuck's office or
to his house to see hlm?" A. "Went
to his house."
Q. "Why did you go to the house
instead of the office?" A. "I knew he
was home sick."
Q. "How did you know thnt'" A.
"1 think I did phone the office first
nnd they told me he wns sick."
Q. "Did you see uny one when you
went to his home beside Schuck'" A.
"I didn't nt first: no, sir. As I knocked
nt the door he got out of the bed nnd
looked down nnd saw me and motioned
for me to come in. I went In and wont
upstblrs nnd his little boy wns in bed
with hlm."
Q. "Did you hnve nny conversation
with him nbout having been to the
prosecutor's office?" A. "Yes, 1 did."
Heard of Hurlnl of Money
Q. "What did you say to hlm?" A.
"I couldn't sny exactly, uny more thnn
thnt vou hnd iniestlniied ine nbout dif
ferent things, nbout this woinnn seeing
me, being the Inst one.
Q "You menn the Inst one with
Pnul? ' A. "Yes."
Q. "Wns the bov present when this
conversation took place?" A. "Yes,
but I talked so he couldn't understand.
lie is only u youugster, four or live
years old.
y. "Was Mrs, Schuck In the room?"
A. "No, sir, she was not.
. "Did jou have nny conversation
as to the money or whether it was safe
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to stay nround Camden or not under
the clreumstniiecH?" A. "I think thnt
I did."
Q. "Whnt wns snid by either of you
In reference to thnt?" A. "I don t
hnow, nny more thnn I says to hlm thnt
I thought It would be nil right if we
stnyed. nnd I think nt'thnt time he told
me he hnd burled the money In the New
Cnmden Cemetery over his mother s
grave."
y. "Did you receive nny of the money
before he hnd burled It other than what
vou hnve mentioned?" A. "Only on
thnt Saturday night.",
Q. "Wns thnt the time you received
the $.-.000?" A. "Approximately thnt.
I Imagine It was that amount, yes. I
didn't count It."
Q. "What did you do with thnt
money?" A. "What did I do with
It?"
Hid Cnsli In Drawer
Q. "Yes." A. "I put It In my
father's house."
Q. "Where?" A. "In the wnrdrobe
in the front room."
Q. "Whnt pnrt of the wardrobe?"
A. "In the drawer." , ,
Q. "And when did you put it there?"
A. "I think I snenked It in there Mon
day some time when my mother was
down stnlrs."
Q. "Did your fnthcr or nny one know
thnt ynu had put it in there?" A.
"No sir."
'q.' "Did you tell Schuck that you
hnd put it there?" A. "I did."
Q. "When you left Schuck's house
thnt day vou say you had Ward's enr;
did Schuck go with you?" A. "I met
hlm two or three hours' afterward, I
think It wns; he got dressed nnd I met
hlm on Mount Vernon nvenue."
Q. "Did you mnkn nny nrrnngement
with hlm the first time you snw him
thnt dny to meet him ngnln?" A.
"Y'es, In the afternoon. Thnt jvas In
the morning when I first snw him."
Q. "In the morning wns nny one
else there beside Schuck and his boy?"
A. "His wife wun down stairs."
(J. "Was she up stnlrs nt nny time?"
A. "No, sir; she enmo up one time nnd
mnde nn excuse for the room beltii;
dirty."
(J. "Did you hnve nny conversntlon
nt thnt time?" A. "Not while she wns
there, no, sir."
Q. "Did you have nny conversation
with her nt nny time thnt dny?" A.
"I did when I enme downstnlrs."
Q. "Whnt wns thnt?" A. "She
told me Hint Kn.v wns sick nnd the doc
tor snid he hnd six months to live; nnd
nlso cnid thnt he w'us -olng to lenve;
she hnd pneked his clothen and he
wnnted to get u divorce, nnd I says, 'I
nm goin gto meet hlm tills nfternoon:
I will hnve n tnlk with him nbout It.' "
Q. "Whnt nrrnngement hnd you
mnde with him in the nfternoon for
what purpose. I menn. did you mnke
the arrangement to meet him?" A.
"Merely to go out und to get my cnr
nnd take it to the gnrnge.
y. "Did you hnve it in mind to .go
nny place else that nfternoon?" A.
"No, sir."
Q. "Did you eo nny plnce?" A.
"Yes."
Q. "Where?" A. "Went down the
rond below Mt. Enhr.ilm nnd I stonned
nnd he went on down to the Kirkwood
gnrnge nnd bought n new sent."
Q. "Why did jou go nnd buy n new
sent?" A. "The other sent wns
stnined."
y. "And when did jou first notice
thnt"? A. "Thnt dny, T think."
y. "After jou got it from the gn
rnge owner"? A. "Yes."
Q. "Did jou pnj the garage mnn"?
A. "I did."
Q. "For the work thnt he had
done"? A. "Yes, sir."
Q. "I menn Mr. Albertson." A.
"Yes."
ii. "How much did you pay him"?
A. "$00."
"How did jou pny him"? A. "A
$70 check nnd a $110 bill."
Q. "Did you hnve u roll of hills
from which jou took the twenty"? A.
"No, sir."
Q. "Wns thnt part of the money
thnt you hnd gotten from Pnul"? A.
"The $20 bill, yes, sir."
Q. "And when did you get the
!s70 check"? A. "Finm my fnther.'
Q. "Why did you use it check of
your fnther's when you had money
enough to pny for it yourself"? A. "1
didn't want them to think I hud nny
money,"
(J. "Didn't wnnt who to think"?
A. "Any one. mid father. I let on
to him thnt I didn't hnve nny money."
y. "When did you get the chock from
hlm.'' A. "Thnt morning I think It
wns, or the day before I nm not sure.
Q. "How did you happen to notice
thnt there were stains on the sent?"
A. "Looking for it."
(. "What kind of stnins were they?"
A. "Hloodstnin."
Q. "Did you find stnins nny plnce on
the cnr?" A. "On the floor hoards."
Q. "Were the stnins on the scut er.v
noticenble?" A. "No, sir; they wore
not."
(J. "Were they ory noticenble on the
floor bonrds?" A. "Yes."
Q. "Are the lloor bonrds that nre
there in the corner the ones that were
on your car?" A. "Yes, sir; I think
they nre."
Q. "Did you tell Schuck us soon ns
you snw him of those stnins?" A.
"Yes. I did."
Q. "IIow wns the arrangement made
for Schuck to go nnd get ti new scut?"
A. "I told him I would co un this
rond und clean the enr off while he wns
going nfter the sent."
O. "When you snid. 'clean the cnr
off,1 whnt do you mean?" A. "Clean
the blood off."
Q. "Where wob there blood on it?"
A "On the dour ; on the righthaud
door."
Q. "Wli'it menus did you tnke to
clean the blond off of thnt?" A. "With
n rag nnd gasoline "
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bin him. .Tnmen mnde the 1.'$'
statement that lie nn,! HltJ? 't'T
talked the matter orer'"'!?1 "'.'f M
nrcsumnbly knew- whnt the pUmSS
when he met James that day and,?
two went to the hunt, ... 1,7... na "t
.... , turn.
Defense Loom lln.i t.-,.,..
The confession wnn read onlv ,,.
nnother onir wmn.t. i nt'. fter
again raised the point thnt t he e ('
s on was not ndmissnolo be au e i
"corpus delicti," or body of th M
had not been proved by outside V&
an hnvlng taken place in VCT
county Ho wns overruled" to !,',"!
sB--.iia
.Inmes mnde the charge nhn n..
the ) division of the sjioIIh 7l he n ?r&
and robbery The prisoner declared h
tl!11!! Iiw! e.1V'a llim "'-v Sr,,,0
&' .So' htaiS!" rc,nlulns ,he oll
r I? ii .ir.0,"" " mpltej
, ", "'"J,"-",""1" "vucreu court ai
Journed until Mondny. Jnmos was ia
..v., wh.-. nm, i'xiiuusicii thnt he could
not hnve lnstcd much longer. Job
Hnrrls, his lounse, would hnve aM
for nn adjournment hnd not Jnul
snldnfterwnrd.
IT r Minn ttitiiln n. -.rr. . p .
. ... ,"""" "" oiniri to inrce I'roi
ecutor Viohcrton to give hlm a tjp.
written nnnv ..f ,1 .. i .f .
., "iiivnsiuu SO IQIt
he could rend ahead nnd mnke oWw
tions where he thought proper ,lmtl
Kntzonbnoh refused to order this coa
cession, und Mr. Hnrris' last demioj
....o nun iiiu i-unifsNinn no renu hy the
court stenographer who hnd tiiktn It
nnd from the originnl stenographic
Mrs. James to Testify
f T7n..tu tnt.l fA .1. . 1.
'"' eo.., iiiu-r ine nujourn
ment thnt the confession hnd not made
flirt, rtuc. ii tn lilnnl fw.n ! ... 1. 1.. .11.
........ ,. ., ,.,!. ,,,., nlPnt a,
ho hnd feared. In the opinion of coun
sol for the defense, it helps ns much
tl ti till ff j litn ,min
Mi1 iitiiii' in.- s4i.ru.
mere will ue n consultntinn teraor
"" eiiiuni ovLwcen .ur. nnrris nnl
members of the family to decide th
nne.iiie iieionse sunn iiiKe w nen It optm
Monday. Mr. Hnrris hnd decided to nut
Mn I,.. .!. ..I,... ...'.
....3. .. vn nil inr .limes., MIUIQ l()
contradict certain statements mnde ky
witnesses) for the prosecution, which
Mr. Hnrri.s snys Mrs. .Inmes enn show
nn i,nl.,.n Tn... ..k.l.l.. ..Ill -..I.
....- iii.iii... .juill'-s I'lOUUIilJ 1VII1 U(H lJ
pill oil wie sinnu.
French Dispatch Boat Lest
Tarts, Pec. 18. (Ily A IM-Tkt
French dispatch bont liar le-due rn
aground the night of December 14 nrr
Capo Horo. nnd it is believed twenty
memuers ot ner crew were drowned.
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