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SWABTHMORB and Haverford Colleges arc nil set for their annual argu
ment, which is to-be settled next Saturday when the football teams set
together on Swarthmore Field. This la the big event of the season In the
rival Quaker colleges, and, although one team may senn to have the advantage
ver the other before the game, there is nothing like that when the battle
fefclns. No matter, bow powerful Swarthmore or Haverford may be, both
tlevens fight hard from the start and past performances count for nothing.
(They train only for that ono game, and even if every other contest is 'lost, a
Victory Jn the final fracas means a successful season.
Bwarthmorc and Ilavcrford have a little league all their own. They care
nothing for outsiders they have a private feud which is settled among them
selves according to the highest standards of sportsmanship. The final game
la the big game, and they go into It "with as much pep and spirit as any two
teams in the country.
As was said before, past performances mean nothing. If, Swarthmore
vent through tHe season with a long string of victories over teams like Penn,
Princeton and Harvard, Haverford would not be dismayed. The Scarlet and
Black players would go into the game confident of victory and would not
admit defeat until the final whistle blew. And the name goes for Bwarthmorc
This, statement is made from personal experience. I played against Haverford
in l66l after Swarthmore had a most successful season, and It was the hardest
gams.l ever experienced.
This year, if one looks over the records of the teams, Swarthmore would
appear to be tho favorite. Penn was the only team that beat the Garnet, while
Haverford lost three, wou thrco and tied one. But don't take any chances on
the dope. All of those gomes have been forgotten and it will be an even
Stephen proposition when the teams line up for the first kick-off.
WHAT is why the Swarthmore-Haverford game always is a classic
in this section of the country. The huge crowd which usually
attends sees a',regular battle with thrills and excitement galore. 'No
wonder the contest is popular.
Swarthmore Will Outweigh Haverford
ROY MERCER and his assistant, Roy Dclaplalne, have worked hard
with the Garnet squad and it now Is ready for the supreme test. All of
the injured stara are back in the line-up and are on edge to play the game
of their lives. Stowe and Asplundh, the stellar backficld men, will be in the
line-up on Saturday, and their presence will add considerable strength to the
team.
Doctor Mercer has many new formations and pluys which will be used
for the first time against Doctor Bennett's proteges. No one will divulge what
they are, but they are expected to be very effective. Therefore, the Scarlet
and Black may prepare to be surprised.
Swarthmore outweighs Haverford about twelve pounds to the man and
probably will depend quite a little on this weight to wear her opponents down.
This Is especially true in tho line. From end to end tho Garnet averages about
180, while Haverford is 101. That's quite a difference in a long gnmc.
The Garnet also has many strong substitutes, some of whom are as good
as varsity men. For example, if Carter, "White, Stowe and Geiges start in
the backfield, men like Johnny Earp, the former Episcopal Academy star;
Asplundh, the best punter in college ranks today; Yarncll, a hard runner, and
Schneider, a clever quarterback, can enter the game and do just as well. In
addition, there are Jackson and Gardner to fall back on.
The chances are that Nlcholls will start at center against Haverford',
with Cornell and Valentine guards, Captain Larkin and McQinley tackles and
1$ Olden and Clanccy ends. This is a very strong line and it will take a good
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JUIATfAOER GILL AM has announced that Haverford would practice
" on Swarthmore Field tomorrow afternoon and the varsity would
fork out on the prep school gridiron. The game will start at 2:15
' p. m. and there will be lots of room for automobiles. More than 1000
can be taken care of in the special parking space near the field.
Next We Have Lafayette and Lehigh
TY7HILE this game is being decided Lehigh and Lafayette will be ut it
t hammer and tongs at South Bethlehem. This also should be a wonderful
Cme, because for the first time in yars the early dope cannot select a winner.
Iehlgh started out like a bouse .afire, but flopped in the games against Pitts
burgh and State. Lafayette almost defeated Princeton, lost a hard game to
Penn and won all of the other battles. The team, under the able coaching of
Dr. Jock Sutherland, is considered the best in years.
Therefore, there Is an air of uncertainty about this battle which makes
It all the more interesting. Lafayette men -who haje seen the Enst'onians
trampled. year after year by Tom Keady's teams are confident that the tables
Trill be turned Saturday, while the Brown- and 'White followers will be out in
fall force to assist in celebrating another victory.
Doctor Sutherland has moresthan made good in his first year of couching.
'Aided by "Pud" Seldel, an old teammate,, be has' taught the Lafayette players
considerable football. He has good material and an excellent chance to come
through this year.
Johnny Weldon is one of the greatest backs in the game and easily out
shines any man on either team. Dumoe is a wonderful end and there are
thers who can deliver the goods.
It must.be remembered, however, that Tom Ready is a very good coach,
knowB football and knows how to teach it. He always has a smart team on
the field and seldom makes mUtakes. Lis ton, the halfback, and Wysockl are
high -class players and will cause some trouble. Harry Rote, who will direct
the team from quarterback's position, is one of our very best little field gen
erals and is likely to pull something good.
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THREE OTHER TITLE TILTS
E.-C. H. S. PLA TT HANDED PALM
BY FRANCIS OUIMET
Country's Uncrowned Star of the Links Says Local
Golfer Ought to Take Hand in Future Title
Events Other Links Lore
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Standings of Teams in
Football Championships
l.NTKRSCITOI.ASTlC T.TIAOUK
Games W. I Tie Ptn.
( Vnfnil Illgb 1 0 0 R
Norllif.t lTl(tli 4 3 1 O n
Went I'hllailtlphU Hlth. 4 2 118
Smith I'hllruldphU Illcll. 4304
J-r.nkford Hlli 4 0 3 1 1
Of mmntown .Illih .40400
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I'rnn Charter 2 S 0 O 4
Gernmntown Academy. . . 3 1 'I 0 2
KplHcntml 2 1 I 1
Friend n' Central ... 30111
TOMonnows scirenci.K
1'oothull
IntrtichDlastlc Tactie.
Nortlieitst Illjtli m. Central Illcb, at
Tnentr-illnlh aurl fiomerket utreeta.
South l'hlla. Hlih t. Vrt rhila. HUh.
nt rortr-faurth ntrn-t and 1'urknlilo iivenue.
Intrnwidemlo TxMKn
Klrcopal vh. Gernianton-n Acutlemr. at
Tnhur.
FYlendu' Central . Venn Charter, at
Queen Iane.
Other GanifH
WHt l'hlla. Cathollr HUh at Media Illlh.
Wotxlhurv lllrh at Salem lllnh.
Rliller I'ark lllih at Snrthmore lllth.
Colllruriiwood HUh ut IladdonHeld Hlih.
Wrt Chester Illdh at l"ami School.
H.-uldon IlelKhtli nt lhirliy llllli.
y SANDY McMllLICK
fpRANOIS Ot'lMET, holder of both
the amateur and open titles at one
time, and conceded to be one of the
greatest amateur golfers this country
has ever produced, cotnes right out to
say that J. "Wood Piatt. Philadelphia,
will be heard from on the links in the
future.
The local from North Hills knocked
the dope n-skiddlng nt Oakmont this
.year when he turned back Ouimet on
the thirty-eighth hole, after the latter
had beaten Chick Brans, the champion
and favorite.
Ouimet, it now seems, was thoroughly
impressed by the carefree manner in
which his youthful opponent played
him in that great match.
Lauds, Woody
"Piatt, miirht to take a big hand in
golf events of the country for some
time," says Uuimct. "i nm noi one oi
those who figure that his- win over me
was an accidental llnfh. One reason for
this in the matter-of-fact manner in
u.hlfl, ho ulnvpil that match nt Oak
mont. He displayed his worth on that,
first extra hole after I had. halved the
mutch on the eighteenth." '
Ouimet smashed his nrsc snot on me
made the good folk thronged around
gawfl with amazement.
Ouimet savs this feature of his play
borders on the professional wy of fight
ing out a links bnttle anA that it is
going to carry Piatt far down the golf
fairv?ay.
Cameron Buxton, former city cham
pion, and one of the best locals the city
has produced, is going to be with us
next season and likely will enter the
national.
Iluxton, who won the Wilmington
tourney last year in his only start in
tho realms of this city, plans to get an
early start and be a regular in the
going hereabouts. ."
Sydney E. Bharwood. the Merion star,
shot a 72 there Sunday, which is a
wonderful score over the former national
setting at this time of year.
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And speaking of scoring, while the
autumn leaves are falling, Warren
Cockrnn, a national semlfinalist, shot a
35 .omiiug home at line Valley Sun
day, where ho played with Chick Evano
and a couple of the notables down there.
The sturdy Ilaltimorean was some
thing like 41 going out, but the figures
show that he had something on the
American amateur wizard.
Mrs. Ronald II. Harlow is taking lots
New York, Nov- 20. After n lot of
excitement as to which city might bo
awarded the A. A. U. national track
and field championship for 1020. it was
learned nt the headquarters of the asso
elation yesterday that there was only
one application on file for the fixture
and that was Pittsburgh. Pa. At the
Iloston convention John T. Taylor, the
Pittsburgh delegate, made a strong plea
for tho event, and there being no other
bidders, ho demanded that the appli
cation be decided upon then and there1
but. somehow the matter was deferred.
Of course, as there happened to be no
other city in tho field, Pittsburgh will
get the meet eventually.
The reason for not selecting n site ns
yet forthe big tltlo meet was made
clear yesterday by Fred W. Rubin,
secretary of the A. A, U. He said that
on account of the Belgian Olympics
the holding of the National A. A. U.
meet would be a very important one
next year, and it was thought to be
the better plan to wait. Very little
detail has arrived in this country from
Belgium about the exact date of the
Olympic games, and not until the offi
cial data arrives will tho awarding of
the track and field championship be dis
posed of. All the European newspapers
have it that the Olympics 'will be held
from August 15 to September 1, but the
A. A. U. has not been officially notified
to that effect. According to some pri
vate advices from Antwerp the stadium
is already built and ready for use, and
it is understood that the Belgian Olym
pic committee will begin to send out
literature on the program around
Christmas.
A, point upon which tho A. A. V.
officials agree about Pittsburgh ,is that
the Smokey City Is equipped with the;
necessary accommodations "for 'a big
meet. There is Forbes Field belonging'
to the bns.eball club, with n four-lap'
track ns well as other fittings whic
come up to the modern standard. As1
far as the seating "capacity Is concerned
there could be no better location, as
there is ample accommodation for 40,
000 persons. '
TWO CITY COLLEGE
GAMES ON TONIGHT
Ormantown
Friend,
Ca fnft- if tlm CM1TV
rrlend al wilmlnxton i Piatt was twenty yards short with
' the necessity of. laying his approach
uTT-itiT, l d1 ou ll treacherous green for a liait.
By VXVli PIIKI , t wns piatt'H first play in a champion -
Year after year football's blue ribbon si,ip. Indeed it was almost his first bca-
event on the scholastic gridiron has i t-on In tournament piay
long hole to the green within fifteen 1 0f time these' days in practice at Merion,
been the Central High-Northeast High
contest. The same condition rules this
season. At least 10,000 spectators are
expected to crowd around the chalkcd
off battlefield and in the two dilapi
dated stands on Houston Field tomor
row afternoon when the Crimson and
Cold lines up ugniust the Red and
ninclt.
Tills big battle will be one of three
Interscholnstic Ieague games to be
staged on tho final big Friday schedule
of the season, before the curtain flops
on the championship campaign. Two
titular tilts, finnls in tho Iutcraca
demlo League, nlso are on tho pro
gram. Tho elevens of South Philadelphia
High and West Philadelphia nigh will
meet on a neutral field, at the P. R. It.
Y. M. C. A. grounds. Forty-fourth
street and Parkside avenue.
In the Internes, Penn Charter will
play on its home gridiron nt Queen lane
with Friends Central as the opposition.
Episcopnl Academy vs. Gcrmantown
Academy will be the other match, and
it will bo decided at Tnlior.
Central High's crncn eleven ana renn
fliirnlpcQ Htvlft
The youngster wus stacked against
the stur whom m.auy of them considered
the greatest of 'em nil.
But the local played that shot as he
plays 'cm all wan
hit it
.Iked up. to it and
getting her shots down for the season
in the South. She will defend her title
as North and South champion at Pine
hurst in' March and Is playing in fine
form these November days in anticipa
tion. Mrs. Barlow probably has won more
golf titles than any other American
woman.
Temple Five Faces Pharmacy
and Textile Engages Col
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SYRACUSE'S CLAIM
TO FOOTBALL TITLE
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and Pittsburgh Proceeds to Discredit W, and J.
Tough Task for Dopesters to Pick Champion
IN TUB SFOBTLIGHT By GRANTLAND RICE
ComribM, If St, all rights rwerved)
'" The Syracuse Claim '
THAT Eohorous bW'4nUoud chattering which you hear is not a. discussion
of the league, of nation or the coal strike. It is the yawp of thousands, of
aggressive grads and undergrads issuing claims to the football supremacy 'of
the East Not for any championship, but merely as the best team. '
Syracuse partisans, for one example, speak in this language: "Wo beat
the mighty Pittsburgh tenmby more than 20 points. Wo bent Brown decisively
justbefore Brown beat Dartmouth. We then beat the unbeaten Colgate team
by a margin Better tnan. z to, a. ah tins manes us Better than Colgate, Dart
mouth, I'cnn Htate, Pennsylvania) West Virginia, Princeton and Pittsburgh
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ittlTItAT rnore.can volt askt" ,.
And Then
The Syracuse achievement was no fuzzy affair'
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It was notable. The argument seems almost 'unanswerable until we get a
lusty uproar front the Washlngton-dnd Jefferson campus. It is mainly to this
effect : "Syracuse the best' eleven In the-Eas't? How do they get that way? Wo
beat Syracuse 14 to 0 on the Syracuse field. How" cin wo bo two touchdowns
better than Syracuse and have Syracuse put on top?
"If Syracuse can claim to have the strongest team in this section and we
aro two touchdowns better than Syracuse, it's a cinch that vra belong nt tie
top."
THAT sounds logical, also, until Pittsburgh counter s'l icith this:
"Yes, but. we beat you. That ends the argument,"
And so it goes.
The Worth of Comparative Scores
PITT beat West yirginia 20to.0. West Virginia beat Princeton 25 to-0., '
Ergo, Pitt 1b 51 stronger than Princeton. Princeton beat Ynle by 7 points.
Yalo beat.Brown-14(polnts. BroWn beat Dartmouth 1 point. Dartmouth beat
Penn-1 point.' 'Pennnle.d Plttsmfrgh.;' ''
Ergo, Princeton is 25 points stronger than Pittsburgh.
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Yale vs. Harvard
IN' THE meanwhile; Yale has tremendous physical power to throw against
Harvard but unless Yale has mora dn the way of a forward pass than she
uncovered against Princeton, the Caseys will predominate over the Callahans as
sure ns two plus two is approximately four.
. Yale has the power but no such dangerous back as Casey, who wiJJ be a
hard young man to check. But the quids are that Yale has discovered by no'Wv
that any attack, minus the forward pas'p, isn't worth ten cents a ton.
The City College Basketball league!
win ue in action lonignc. two games,
are on the schedule with Temple facing
the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy
and Textile taking on the College of
usieopatny.
The City College league is made up'
of six teams , and games are played'
every Thursday night. The .first half
season ends IJeeomber 1H. ,Tho sen
son opened last Thursday night. Double
headers are staged on plnying night?.
The Central; Y. M. C. A. court hna
been selected as the home pf the City J
woueKe league.' fur mr rAnuruuunc
price of ten cents the public Is admitted
to these games. The first contest
starts nt 8:S0. Twenty-minute halves
will be pldyed.
A few stars are found in the circuit.
TV Tt. Thnrlnirn. nt OstponntllT. rlla.
I played class in the opening gnmc against
tlie.tjollego o: rnormacy, wnen nc per
sonally accounted for twenty -four
points. '
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If he was on. he was on X If he was
llfk-prl. h woh licked. That seemed to
"be Piatt's religion through the tourney.
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HOBART PLAYS VICTRIX
Clash for West Philadelphia Title on
Thanksgiving Day
The West Philadelphia independent
football title will be decided on Thanks
giving afternoon when Hobitrt opposes
Victrlx on the Strawbridge & Clothier
field, Sixty-third and Walnut streets.
Hobartwill be' Idle Saturday. The
team will mend a few days at Hap
Spnnglcr's farm, at 'Dowulngtown, In
preparation for' the turkey day clash.
ftinnnrer ananKier uieo nuuuuumi
0 MATTER how you look at it, the game appears to be a fifty-fifty
proposition, with the advantage on neither side. It will be a won
derjul battle to watch.
History of Scoring in Football
STERDAY afternoon a stranger called us on the phone and handed out
the 'following question: "Did a goal after touchdown ever count two
feints, and if so, when?" t
That required some research work, but the answer was discovered, thanks
to the dope compiled by Parke H. Davis, football's greatest statistician and
Democratic leader upstate. Mr, Davis once wrote as follows :
'In the original intercollegiate rules of 1870, Rule 7 -provided that 'a
match Bhall'be decided by a majority of touchdowns; ' goal shall be equal to
four touchdowns, but In case of a tie a goal kicked from a touchdown shall
take precedence over four touchdowns.'
"In 1881 the following rule was adopted: 'In case of a tie, a goal
kicked from a touchdown shall take- precedence 'over a goal otherwise kicked.
If the game remains' a tie, the side which makes four or more safeties less than
their opponents shall win the. game,'
"Numerical scoring was adopted in 1883, as follows: 'Safety, lj touch -
dewn, 2; goal from touchdown, 4, and goal from field, 6.' These values were
fchaBged the following year to safety, '2; touchdown, 4, and goal from touch
down. 2. In 1807 the value of a touchdown was increased to S points and a
Hol following a touchdown reduced to 1 -point. In 1004 the value of a goal
fpsa the field was reduced to 4 points and in 1000 to 3 points. In 1012 the
-Mh ef a touchdown was increased to 0 points."
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THERE is the history, of scoring in football, and it is very Merest
ing, Jn reply to the question regarding goal after touchdown, it
it setn that up to J 807 U oourited two or more points.
This May Help the Cheer Leaders
'ARK WILSON, the demon press agent, has an idea which should make
football more Interesting to the spectator, Mark has been getting an eyeful
of tho doings at Franklin Field, but apparently did not pay much attention
o tte play n-s. He"watched'th$ actions of "tjie' cheerleaders.
I'.Thoss jBiys 'could make a big number but of. their' act if they only added
MM acrobatic work,1' .said Mark. "A few flip-flops, like those put fiver by
tb Pesliys in 'Monte Cristo, Jr.,' would make a big bit, and it the col-
olrter .leasers. UMire any coacuing -i snail get,our,sierii,ng aimeics to
Anyway, It's a good idea, ana I nope youmtntion it in the
Eddie Mitchell Dead
Toledo, Nov. SO. Kddlo Mltchrll notrd
throuBhout tho world a driver and nore
trainer, died last night while motorlnu from
Toledo to hl farm near the Ohio-Mlcnigan
boundary line.
Mitchell raced In England and Ireland
and on the continent, and In 1005 waa
awarded the champlonahlp of Europo with
AUa Axworthy, a three-year-old trotter.
Oscar Egg Comes to Cycle
Nnr "York, Npv. 20. Oarar Erg arrived
vatrdav on Ijl Prance for tha ntxlav
cycle race at the Qarden on November SO,
witn too iaei 01 me rrencn aiara, jean
Chanlen and Oaaton Oodlver. Egg ! teamed
with Marcel Dupuy. Thla pair won- the
1018 race.
Tigers Not Keen on Play-off
rambrUre. llmi,, Nov. 20. Rucaettlona
that the Princeton and Harvard football
teams .play oft their tie of November 8 In
a contest to be held November SI) have
found favor with the Harvard athletic man
agement, but not with Princeton authorities.
Ten Rounds No Decision
FopcMttvpale. N, Y.. Nor, 20. At the
nuatUr A, C. here latt pight Jack Elle, pi
New Tork, and jtmmr Hurni, of Urldta
port, went tea latt rounfla to a draw.
OVERCOAT
Charter's machine-like aggregation are that ljobart would meet the Rex A. C.
favorites to win ine respective cnam- in Washington one wcfK irom nuuuay
ntnnuhlna In thn Intprscholastic Ulld III-
teracademlc Leagues. The Mirrors may
expect a tough tussle from their an- j
Mont rivals, thf Arr-hlves. while the l
little Quakers probably will have an
I easy proposition against Friends' Cen
tral, However, in hub yeur oi upseis
and surprises one never can tell.
A gruelling mix la expected when
South Phllly and West Philly clash.
Both elevcnB have been playing a hard
game this season. Tho downtown Red
and Black are more "than anxious for
a victory, in which event Coach Dean
Johnson s team will finish the season In
a tie for second place with Northeast,
providing tho latter loses to Central
High. '.
The feature of the mix between
Frankford and Germailtowu this nfter
noon on Community Field is that the
victor will end the season one posi
tion out of the cellar. In other words
this will be ,a battle for last place In
the Interscholastic League.
Half a dozen other matches arc
scheduled tomorrow. Coach Reynolds's
West Philadelphia. Catholic Hleh team
wllf go to Media for a mix with the
local High School eleven. A big battle
is on for Swnrtmore where the high
school of that place meets Ridley Park
High. .
Other ganies ore Woodbury High vs.
Salem High; Colllngswood High vs.
Haddonfield 'High ; West Chester High
vs. Farm School and Haddon Heights
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Try an ADLON. Begin yrith the
.large-size, big-value Corona shape
my personal choice. See for yoursqlf
what it means to smoke a Havana-
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cigar grown, cured; blended and
maderight. 1:
Your dealer is waiting to pass the
ADLON box across the,,; counter to
you. ' "
Let me tell you what
this bar4 means
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Behind every cigar labeled ADLON is vir
tually my whole life's experience, ,
an experience which started ' in my,
father's cigar factory when I was a boy of.
twelve and seized with an almost hypnotic
fascination for the cigar-maker's art. . '
My ambition then was some day to go be
fore the world with a popular-price cigar I'd
know, absolutely, to be the best cigar for' the
money human ingenuity could produce.
Today, forty years later, 1 ask you to pass
judgment on that cigarthe ADLQN.
It is. my supreme achievemeht-r
my final conception of what a corn-.
pletely satisfying smoke ought to bev
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