-mVV Df! t Vf f9 Srt, BV33NTNG PUBLTC .LEDGER-PHILADELPHIA, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER S,' 1919. U' AFTER THIRTEEN YEARS EVERYTHING IS CLEAR ABOUT THE FORWARD PASS BUT THE RU ""Tttt " yBh YH. IT l ft P.. ir-"" A vi RULES ON FORWARD PASSES STILL CLOUDY AFTER 13 LONG YEARS Toss Caught by Ineligible Man Within Opponents' Ten Yard Line Goes as Touchbaek Laws Only j Partially Explain Some Plays H KOIIKKT . MAXWEI.I. iportit Alitor r.ienlng 1'iilille Ledger roiiyrloil, J9IS. bv l'ubllo I.titacr Co. Till) fonvard pnss has been in football since 1000 and now is used exten sively in all of the games. Kven the snnd lot teams depend upon it to gain ground, but at the same time many plays come up which are not explulucd in the rule. There are three kinds of passes legal, illegal and incompleted. A legul pass is one vhlch 1ms been thrown from a point at least five yards behind the Jine of scrimmage ami Is caught b an eligible man. An illegal pass Is luiidc from point l.KSS than five janls bark, and If caught by an eligible man, Is not al lowed. However, if an opponent catches the ball, ho may decline the penalty and reluln possession of the ball. ' Vn incompleted forward pass is one which hits the ground before or after be'ng touched l an eligible plaer of either side an.l Is ruled a dowu and tlm ball i put in play at the spot of the preceding down, unless, of course, it occurs on a fourth down. Then the bull goes to the opponents at the spot of the pre ceding down. Another point to be remembered is that the player who legally touches the ball on a forward pass is the only one of his side who may recover or attempt to cure possession of the ball before It touches the ground or is touched by an opponent. This rule hns caused inanj arguments on aud off the football field. ' AX ineligible phiier on the passer's side touches the hall, the play is not allowed and the ball goes to the opponents at the spot of the preceding doien. lly ineligibl" player is meant one of the five men playing in the center of.the line and not on the end. Only players on the ends of the line of scrimmage and bad-field men who aical least one yard back, arc eligible to receive the pass. Rules Only Partially Explain This Play HE IlC is o play which caused lots 'of trouble and decided a football game u. short time ago. It Is only partially cxplnincd in the rules, all of which made it hard for the official. A team on the offense mude a forward pass and the ball was touched by an eligible man. He could not hold it and it bounced off his fingers. lSuforc ii touched the ground, nnother eligible man on the passer's side made a grub for the ball, but it slipped out of his hands and landed in the arms of an op ponent. The opponent ran for a touchdown. Xow the question arises, is it or is it not n legal play? Ordinarily, on Mlap judgment, one would allow the score ; but on close examination of the rules the play is found to be incompleted and therefore the touchdown is NOT allowed. According to Rule IS. "if a player of the passer's side legally touches, the ball, he only of his side may recover or attempt to secure possession of the ball until it touches the ground or is touched by an opponent." That means, if n second man touches the ball before it hits the ground or an opponent, the pass is incompleted and goes as a down. In this play, the cond man made it an incompleted forward pass as soon as he touched it aud anything which happened after thatloes not count. UTtTIIV not refuse the penalty?" you ask. Because on uncompleted forward passci the penalty cannot be declined. On an illegal pass, however, the other side may decline the penalty if it secures possession of the ball. This Play Is Slightly Misleading (fTV A team has the ball on the opponent's ten-yard line," writes AV. G. (5., "and makes a forward pass which is caught by an ineligible man on the two-yard Hne, does the ball go to the offendtd side as first down at the spot of the preceding down?" That play is slightly misleading, but there is a rule which covers it. The ball does NOT go back to the spot of the preceding down, but the play is ruled a touchbaek and the ball gots out to the twenty-jard line, first down for tho offended side. " flir, rule says: "If any ineligible player of 1hc passer s side touches the ball it shall go to the opponents at the spot of the preceding down, UNLESS the foul occurred between the opponent's ten-yard line and their end line, in which case the ball may go as a touchbaek to the offended side." Penn Charter Shows Power PENN cnAHTEH started out to win another Interacademic championship yesterday afternoon when the football team defeated Episcopal Academy 41 to 0 Judging from the way Dick Iterritt's men played, they will have little difficulty in winning from Friends' Central aud Germantowu. The team work was good and individual' performances also stood out. Taking it all in all, this year's team looks very good. Mitchell, who captains the team, is a real Mar. This young man is a wonder on the offense und could be depended upon to gain every time he took the ball. He has a peculiar way of running which bewildered the Episcopal boys. He would shoot through the line, then suddenly veer to the left or right, eluding tacklers and always picking a hole to blide through. Mitchell is one-half the attacking strength o the team. Hl-J ALSO gives the signals and is on able field general. Seldom did he make a mistake and call the wrong play, and he knew ex aetlti what to do on evtry down. Merr'uts Forward-Pass Attack Works Well DICK MKUHITT pulled some swell forward passes, all of which worked like a charm. However, the coach is fortunate in having a man like H. Statzell on the receiving ead. This athlete caught the ball with little difficulty,' whether it was over his head or close to the ground. He is one of the best receivers In scholastic ranks. Venn Charter worked many plays without a signal, having certain series wliipli caused fast play. That is a mighty good idea, and other school teams should try if. V ' PI8C0PAh could not solve Penn Charter's attack, and that caused? the one-sided score. However, the boys played well in spots and showed signs of improvement. Charley McCarty has given them some good plays, but his boys do not work thepi properly. Sy. ,1 VATITHMORIO HTliH ROITOOr, is ilefi to I.anmlowne. The suburban Mould make it Interesting for any scholastic eleven. An attempt is being made to arrange a gume. In the meantime, 'Radnor High and Central High are kept busy bowling uier opponents, and they, too, have something to say. A four-cornered series would be Aery popular and the managers should get to gether and do something. T WO interesting scholastic games are nut Hill plays Bt. Luke's and Penn The principal out-of-town game will be btaged in Tottstown, when Hill clashes with Hotchkiss in the annual battle. THOSE looking for upsets in the dope. today ore wagering the long green on Penn to beat Dartmouth, Princeton to bent Harvard and Pitt to smear "Washington od .lefferson. This is the open season for guessing, and take it from us, the guessing is good. o V IP AV. AND J. iH uble to glide safely bj Pittsburgh today, it will require a vast number of concrete dugouts, heavily vired, to keep this team from reaching its ultimate objective the same being a slice of the midwinter cbam- pioushlp debate. BIG guns have Been invented that cun be heard seventy miles. But the ultimate record will ne.-cr be established until wc haTe a head-on collision between Gillo, of Colgate, and Jlodgers, of West Virginia. The worst these two fouid Uo would be to tie the record now held by the fusillade of certain Lr-xtafUw XanucW. tho latest to stop forward and issue a team ha8 a good record this year and on the schedule for next week. Chest Charter meets Germantown Academy. WHr4 A FRIEND rTlNOS You T the PiRsST Tee OP Ths 3oU CUU8 , AND, 8EING 1GrJORAl"T Ot RULES AMD CUSTOMS HlLS YOU IN A LOUD RVJCOOS MANNER JUST AT THE .SILENT MOMSNT YOUR rooTCHETY Golf- - J5 fWLM-GOO.rs. n.o a Misrsr-fir i. i: tils; PRINCETON LETTER Norristown Boy Awarded Var sity "P" for Winning X-Coun-try Run Against Yale SHIPWAY SCORES AT TENNIS Irlnceton, V .1.. Nov. . The Princeton varsity "P" was awarded, last night to Allen Swede, of Norris town, Pa., for coming in first in the cross-country meet with Yale. D. Ij. , MfWlllianis. of Shamokln. Pn.. wns gien his insignia for shooting on the litlO cun team, and S. I). 15. Pores man, of Montclnir, N. .1., was awarded his letter for making second place in the cross-country. Insignin was granted to the followiug members of last j ear's freshman tennis team: H. T. Knttpnlnch (captain), Vonkers, N. Y. ; 15. Carter, Plainlleld, N. J. ; II. T. Dickinson, Locust Valley, L. I.. J. A. Milholland, Washington, D. C. ; C. M. Shipwav, Charleston. S. C, and P. E. Hogue, 1021, New York city, for services as manager. Pour men, including .McWillinins. were given the gun-team insignia. C. M. Shipway, 1012, of Charleston, S C, won the fall tennis tournament bv defeating J. N. Hjnson, lf.20, in three straight sets, (t-2, fi-2 and t-1. The winner, who has just been awarded the tennis team insignia for phi; tag second on last year's fteshman team, created a sensation by eliminating Captain Werner, 1H21, of the vaiaitj tenuis team. r,, . , i Shipway was a champion at Law- renceville fachool, and is regarded as a coining star performer on the courts. jiiiiii nr- nr-lll AIIHain , WILL bt iNtW LHAIVlr, .... - . ........ AllDL LDnrtfl I Vri I'U VYIIYL. I IVVJIVI J. LI null Contender Orders $1000 Worth of Seats for Friends to See Him Box Herman The Olympla management last night received n telegram from Joe Lynch, which read : Don't be surprised to sec a new champion mmle at your club on Wed- nesiiaj night. Am training hard, und feel sure that 1 will win bv the K fi i route lOE 1 YVClf sin ennfident i Lviii-h ll.ni l.n w ill take the title nwa from Chamnion . . - l ..... Pete Herman when they clash in the first special show of the season that lie has ordered $1000 worth of re served seats, so that his friends may see him turn the trick. Lynch and Herman are to come in at 118 pounds, ringside, Hoth men are training hard. Lynch, if success ful in landing a K. O. wallop, will be the new ruler of the bantams. A vic tory for Herman will put him in a class all by himself, as he will have disposed of his most .dangerous rival. Lynch hns been seen in action in this rity on two occasions ngnlnst .roe Iliir mnn, of Chicago, These bouts -were listed as elimination contests, and tho winner was to have met Herman. The first was a draw, und Lynch was the victor in tne other. Tinvn- Astei n,,.l .W TW u-ili 1m the principals In the semifinal. J Mendell vs. Frankie Howell. Little Itear vs. Victor Itltchle and Uav O'Mnllcj vs. Andy Ithers complete th - CT". AL tHOMPSON DRAWS Former Marine Is .Butted for Loss of Teeth Shows Up After Fifth Al Thompson, of Cincinnati, for merly u boxing instructor in the United States marine corps, with the incentive o ills bout tonight ut the National A son for the first four roiuids succeeded in sewing up Lee in the Ulncbeu. Tho. former mnrine also piled up a big lead with straight left jabs. Ho did not In- jert enough "zip" into his leads to keep Lee off. and in the fifth round Thomp son was butted with the Kensington boxer a head. Thompson lost two teeth and considerable blood The injury slowed him down and Lee's slam-bung tactics in thn remainder of the fifth and in thn sixth session earned the Ken- piugtonian au even breuk. HkaMMHMaRM H"KWH" riJMsfsa i w,i 7wMmrm, m masiBM ; SgA SMMWM)m PSPSlw immA JtyJ .Ltc s-x&?u,. apasr 3 v-- yXmk iiiriiniwrnriiimn ALLtIM bWtUt WINb ii, ruuMiii! linn in ivnijii a raijuuiiB Bui- njng Ktrenk W' defeating tJarhj A ...I -I.!... ... .. II . 1.-1 lie iifuiiw "KKy up' ui i nr - niuurm ,ml0 .jo I0 ((, Respite the uiiiu last nig it, penormeii a trine too I(1 ,cor Darby's constituents w .......... l.l . ....... ... ... F.. ..,. .I'......... . ... ., ..... . nil clinic im urn iiwii wi-iium. i-iiuimi- THAT GUILTIEST PEELING mate J hello croe - . . HOLU AOP SlIU ifvii r ' , . . - , w . unn, -WAIT -A MINOTfS ,rJOT 5'PO.SGD To TALK VWHCrJ '"yf . y" ' w vl I V. , V- (A) - mm Mrzr. k x r-" -nrcs . m PENN CHARTER PRIMED I TO REPEAT ON GRID Mcrritt's Little Quakers Look Great in Outclass ing Episcopal in Opening Interacademic Game Ity PACI, I'KKP TVCIv" Mr.ltKITT coach of Peun -L t'linrler for seven yenrs and sit time champion in the annual Interaca demic League grid giapples, has his 'eleven all primed to cume through once more. (Mercontidcnee will not linnut cap the little Quakets in the 1919 cam paign for the gonfalon, as Merritt has instructed liis pluers Hint they have no cinch there will be no easy going and that they will have to fight for every match. The Penn Charter team got under way yesterday afternoon at Strnwbridge & Clothier Field by running rough -shod, like a smooth and well-oiled machine, overwhelming Chnrlev McCarthy's Episcopal aggregation. 41 to 0. It was the opening game in the internes this year, and Meiritt's men started away from the hairier with thrv sliced that gave promise of history repeating. Mltthell Swell Player Ed Mitchell, captain of Pent Char ter, showed up as a wonderful tieid gen eral, all-around player and most val uable man on Mcrritt's staff. For three and a half periods Mitchell used bril liant headwork in running his eleven, points, getting two tone Mown-.. dron Theu. after being hurt three .liffer-, kicking a field gonl and booting n goal t'lir i ii H's. in; iiijhiia hum m inn ' ui" Mi , m ;, ()ff thp ,iol(i ,vith rrnche(1 ankc, Rllt after the cm- ,(,a ,,. wflR mld t,m(. h(1 probably w01lld , get into the Germantown Academy game ' il!.ln . it i-- r. ii.. i..i inn.. i,a , From the' outset the little Quakers .luii'iuriu outclassed and outplayed the ( hurcti r,,n Wlill Ponn Plinrlw wm ahli In ., " .. ouiv onp touchdown in the Initial quarter, the champions got work ing harder ana taster in me next pe- Hod, piling up four more touchdowns and as many goals inereirom ueiore half time was called, Aggressive BacUfleld Another touchdown by Huerry in the third quarter nnd gonl for the addi- i tiomil point by II. Statzell were the I final points made. Casannve, Huerry, Hrill and Mitchell make u fast -flaying backfield, and the aggressiveness of this ' quartet may have a lot to do In relain- I ing the title for Venn Charter thir ypnr' , ' 1e Charter used no one system on I the offense. On cud runs Mitchell .1,,.,.1 I.In.cilF ,id n tlnnr (.1lrn-1ril1I ml runner and hard to stop. Drill prmej lie wns a very good heaver of the for- ward pass with either of the Stntzell brothers, K. und H., capable of hook- Inc on to the leather within reaching fllStanCC. ill piUJIHh -y-llfc,t. '""tWUII Huerry and V.rill gained much ground on plunges off tackle and through the center of the line. Episcopal Academy, too, lias n oraee of brothers holding down the wing posi- tions They are J. nnd A. Clcun. Close Call for C. II. S. Central High School assumed the undisputed leadership in the Inter scholastic League race by shading South Philadelphia High yesterday afternoon on Houston Field, O.to 0. The narrow margin ot.ono touchdown for the Mir- i rors. not mnuo iiuiu mu ... ... u i pll W ) ! ?' Eve ,Dnctw,V II ,e rni edge. Ilarris missed the ! gonl i , W"e, Yem,"Ji L "',,'i,m,r it,. ' Johnson s eleven almost throughout the , I ,,. .i,,..n Tti.,1 nml llliieli ' upset the dope materiaHv by holding the big and strortg Mirrors to the one touchdown. This game proved that Central High School will not win the champlonsip this season so easily as expected. The remaining games with West riiilly und Northeast nre going to be gruelling contests, and tho wluner of the leuguo will have proved itself one of the best elevens in yenrs. Swnrtlnnore Higli continued its win- Hlgb one ere ,rrf,iti. ,, aim nrer ma ipnm'u i. wu.i,,r ijjcXaiiy'g touchdown in the first period, w hjpj, cumc M u result of a recovered fm1,lp. wns the first time for un mi. onent to cross Swarthmore High's goal line in two years. Frickp was the in dividual star of the little Ciaruets. He scored three of Swnrthmore's touch downs, while Yarnall added two and Power got the other. Fullback Orange, Roberts and Brown each crossed Frankford High's goal line In Ht. Luke's victory, 17 to 0. Captain ildrrocks kicked two o( the three goabj t WELL" HEOLO Bill - well well VvELL BESN looKIM' ALL OVER FOR. YA- So ths is where YOU HANG OUT IS VVHATCHA GOT ONI THffRS- I HARDLY KrJEW YA - HAHAHAl Schoolboy Footbidl League Standings iNTi:itsrnoi..sTic i,i:r.ui: (i. . 'i'. , i n. r.ini nii-it . a a o o Hi I'hllM HlL'h .12 1 on ' Northern.! IIIbIi. J '; South I'hlln HlKh. I I l 2 S iisvinkfnril lllirlt a 0 12 1 iNTi:n cAiir.Mir i.kac.ue ! t;. u. t. i,. rt. Penn C.mrter . Knlsronit. .. .. '"(..A' f."". II 0 iKsTraww'M nisui.TP ' l'oolhnll Central IIInli, !: South Philadelphia llleh. 0. .... , Penn hnrter. Ill I-nlseonnl. 0. fc. I La.u 1-. IViiitkfnnt ll.Eh. 0. t'liestiint lllll 2i: AMnjrton lllcll, 7. Trert drill IJanllown, ..i low nine. own Knilnor Hlsh. 21l nrrn , Athyn. 7. snarlhmore lllxh. -12- DuHn lei. . Mooillilirv HlEli, lSl rMmilen HlBli. II. Pitt Fm.li. 7 i Mute "reli. O. (.'.uMlioro IIlBh. Oj Sjlein ,lh. 0. MnnnHria nnnnl. 17: Alfred, 0. hoeeer r.ennnntonn Friends Hi AVllmlnirton Vnn'rlfesh, 2! Germnntown lllrh, 1. from touchdown. Ornnge's score re sulted after u 00-yard run through a broken field. , , . ... Abington High succeeded in getting the first tally in the game with Chestnut Hill Academy, but the latter came back strouglv in the next three periods and won out easily, 22 to 7. Pritt made Abiugton's touchdown. Cnrngan was rr-siinnsllile for 1(5 of Chestnut Hill's - " ..-...- , the other six-pointed, Radnor Wins rn,)taill Synncstedt saved Pryn Athyn ' from i)(in: g'hutout wheu he got uway n , i n.. ji.i I !...i trnm rn pnnnwn. vtuuuiu iiiiuiu inuuu Itmlnnr lliirh winning. 21 to 7. Hen derson made two touchdowns for the ictoriouv, eleven, while Whetstone , made the other nnd Dotterer booted all three coals for 'the additional points, On a wide right-end run with only half a minute to play. Bill (Ireer ran for a Woodbury High touchdown In the game with Camden, bringing a victory for the former. 18 to 14. lioth tenms ' used trick plays throughout, playing open lootunll. Hlg Games Today Several big, important and interest ing matches am on for today, on a schedule of more than a dozen football and soccer games, I CRtholIc High and West Philadelphia High meet for the first time on the gridiron in a gume at 'I'wcnty-umth ' and Clearfield streets. Haverford nud Hill schools clash in the stellar scrim- m.nn s.T 1, r. cinuenn mi Din iVtomn..'., grid. i Scholastic followers are focusing their I optics on tlm game between Eunsilowne land Lower Merion, Ht Lower .Morion, as the latter will have out its strongest U't'.OV ,U fll.U. W'nv ..,,.., i n V.UWJ w uHes. La Salle und Williamson School is uo ordinary contest. Friends Central dnd (icrmunlown Academy nrn plajing their opening In- t"raeademic League game on the P. It. U. 1. M. 0. A. grounds this norning. . iiv uiii: nwk ia nt, v.i.j ..i . j v i.iuv.n Other matches scheduled for this. p. m. : Collincawood IIIkIi at Jlammwton HlKh. Hwarthmore Prep at Franklin and Mar shall. KorriKtnwn. HlEh at WllmlnEtbn Hleh. Williamson llesenes at West Chester limn. SOCCER Georite School at Qlraril College lllrard Colleno ad at Cleorce Hchool 2d, CHOSS COUNTUY Three-and-a-halr-milB run, lileh nchool Lhamplonsblp, Fulrmount i-urk, GOLFER UP IN AIRPLANE Wins Blind Tourney With Unique Ride as the Prize New Yorli, Nor. 8. John D. Minor, of Elizabeth, N, J., will enjoy tomor row the distinction of being the first Vmerlenn golfer who won -an airplane, rule as first prize in a totiruumcnt. As result of the blind handicap plnjed last week over the HuburLflji (lolf Club course at Elizabeth ns a benefit tourney for the Roosevelt Memorial Association, Minor led the field of competitors. THREE BALLJT MINUTE Ralph Greenleaf Makes 8peedy Time In Pocket Billiards Ilrldgeport, Conn., Nov. 8. Mnklng more than three balls n minute, Ralph Greenleaf defeated Charles Seeback.lu tho third and final block of their exhi bition pocket billiard match here last night, by n wore ot 125, to 38, mimmi vsmtn wj3,imr l ALL EASTERN FIVES T Germantown at Reading, Cam den at Trenton and Ail-Americans Meet De Neri Here BILLY MILLER IN LINE-UP liVITKRN I,K(lDi: M. I,. P.C. IV. I.. P.O. All-Am. . 1 o 1.(100 TCenillnK. . O 1 .000 Iniln 1 0 1,000 lleNerl... O 1 .1100 Clllndeil.. 1 0 1,000 Trenton... 0 1 .000 hrhedule. for Tonight AII-AinerlrnnH ut De Nerl, tierniantown ut Heiidln:, Cumden nt Trenton. iiianager ism .Mjcrs nas cverymingi set for the reopening of basketball to ' Eastern League funs at Musical Fund , Hull this evening, and no better attrac tion could have been selected for the opening thuu thn .North J'hiladelphiu Americans, now in complete charge of Prank Voth. He hns signed Winnie Kinknidc, the veteran, who will have charge of the plajing part of the program. Another former player to stage n comeback will be Ellwood Gowdy. but he will not ap pear iu uniform until Monday's clash at Moose Hall with Trenton. Manager Myers announces that the forwards in tonight's clash will be .lolinuy Iteckmun nnd Hilly Miller, the local boj who made good in the Penn State League. He will displace Bill Dark temporarily, ut least, as the lat ter is not in the best of shape. The preliminary w ill feature De Neri Iteserves and Dorsctt Bojs' Club. Another local referee, will toot tho whistle In tho Penn State Leauue. Kaeh season th upstate organization turns to this Uty .Tor Its officials. The latest Is Jlncllnc Johnson, wno lormeriy oHicmmi u io Brotherhood and Drejel niddlo leagues. Ho oppearn In hlH first game at Stranton on Monday evening. Camden fans yet may seo Barney Sedran and Marly Friedman In the hkeeters1 line-up. According to reliable Information, tho Now Yorkers now are seeking a position with Manager Hill Kennedy after announcing that It was Impossible for them to come hero twice a week from New York owing to their Interest In a bis garage, The Rookwood teum, which haB upheld the reputation ot Philadelphia for many seasons will experience the novelty or play ing In Philadelphia tonight when they will b the big attraction at Itichardson gym. Sixtieth and Walnut strees rtlchardion will have a strong line-up to oppose the Inde pendent champs, fiennantoun Y, M. C A. haa one of the strongest fives that ever represented the suburbanites In Hartiell and Logan, for wards; Tarr anil Matthewson. centers, and Taylor lluswell und Upplett. guard. A new rago has been erected and Army Fltx gcruld has been acting as coach. Al n meetlnc of the Northeast Church T.eacuo last oenlng the following, were ruhro.eni.il, AlnhiL. tlelhanv. Hethesda, Summerlleld Norrls Square. Simpson and Hood Shepherd. The St. Luke and St. John nefl hao made application to fill the aranev In the leaaue. which Will be com posed of eight clubs, playing twenty games, split into Halves oi len games earn. The Northwest Church Leilgne will start 1 the ball rolling on Monday nlgnr. wnen wie season Ib Inaugurated at First Dutrh Hall, Fifteenth and Dauphin ntreets. with Cal ary meeting Sehwenkfelder and Oxford opposing Twenty-ninth Street. Pave Kerr has made good In his new po sition at guard and gives the Skeeters a valuable defense man, w ho also can help his team by scoring. It Is said that deorge Haggerty may be dropped by Heading If a certain deal goes through. Not ulnce the Kaslem tame waa or- ranlied have better crowds turned out. Three openings havo been held so far, but ob many more will take place tonight, with Heading, Trenton and Da Nerl on the re ceiving end, Ilaskrtbnll followem were grieved to learn of the death of Fred Kckert a few months ago Jasper rooters now will regret to learn of the death of Frederick Bckert. Sr . who died at hla home, 1038 East Iletks street, yesterday. The Onmintowll club appears to hae a good substitute In Kddle McNIihol. Ills Ability bb a basketball plater la unques tioned and he possesses tlie necessary quall tle nf a player many times found lacking In those breaking In the game, and that Is, plenty of weight to stand tho stialn of a hard campaign. JIMMY WILDE PRESENT British Flyweight Arrives for Open Inrj of International Sporting Club Halifax, N. S., Nov. 8. "Jimmy" Wilde, the British flyweight champion, who is on his way to the Uuiled States to meet foremost American flyweight and featherweight boxers at the open iug of tho International Sporting Club, in February, wns a passenger on the steamer Baltic, which arrived last sight. Tlio Baltic will proceed to New York today. The rules and weights committee of tho Sporting Club held its first meet Ing yesterday afternoon, Tho session was devoted to a preliminary discus sion of the drafting of rules, and weights: to be used In regulating the bouts to bo conducted by the club next fcm INACTION ONIGHT PICKING'WINNER in FOOTBALL DA YS NO EASY TASK Selecting Right TeummNow Is Just as Tough as Drawing Proper Number in Lottery, but if Form Is Main tained Averagclshould Be High IN 1115 SPOKTLTGIIT Cppj right. 101B. Saturday's Advance Results HARVAHD, 10; Princeton, 0. AV. and.!., 7; Pittsburgh, 0. Yale, 10; Ilrown, 0. Penn State, 7; Lehigh, 0. - Pennsylvania,' 7; Dartmouth, 0. Y est Point, 7; Notre Dame, 0. Chicago, 10; Michigan, 0. Minnesota, Uhlo Stnte, 17; Purdue, 0. , Colgate, 'J.'; Rochester, 0. AVcst Virginia, 111; Center, 0. The Big Melee WE DO not guarantee the ubo.e scores in exact detail. AVe frankly admit a week ago that wc thought Penn would beat Penn Slnle, and Hint Prince ton, after the Colgate showing, would give AVcst AMrginla a hard battle. Picking the winner in n football game now is a Iriflo like selecting the proper number in a lottery, but if furm is maintained the uboe average should be high, CATVKDA Y is the day of the big melee. East and West there arc al J least si.v or seven games of notegames that may involve future championship gossip. Harvard and Princeton PKINCETON offered a bright flush against Colgate, but three ot her best games to date have been big disaniiointinents. AA'ith her comnlete llno-im on guard the Nassau delegation maj give upset plus it hurricane if Princeton wins. Harvard, with Casey, the Iforweens, be at least two touchdowns better than Dtr with Trimble, Keck and others in, who were absent a week ago, D Princeton will be quite a bit stronger than she was against West Virginia. Penn vs. Dartmouth DARTMOUTH downed Penn Stuto"find "pfcnn State in turn upset Pennsyl vania. The odds here should be in favor of Dartmouth smearing Penn, if compnrntho scores nie worth ten cTnts n hogshead. Rut, consider this: Dartmouth has just completed a run of three hard games ugninst Penn State, Cornell nnd Colgate, Pennsylvania, with it brilliant looking machine, had her bad day last Saturday and is due for a sudden turn. TTIK dope may favor Dartmoutji, but, considering all conditions, wc believe that Pennsylvania's fast eleven ii pood enough to win. Chicago's Chance CHICAGO has her chance to get back at her greatest rival Michigan. There is a double mnlry here that goes deep into tradition. Not only the rivalry between Michigan and Chicago, but the rivalry between Tost and Stagg a rivalry which began nineteen .tears ugo. After a long lapse, Yot resumed the jump over Slagg last year, but the Maroon veteran hns a rlirc chance ut this meeting to obtain a hunk of revenge, CHICAGO is anothetf eleven that played disappointing football a week ago, and is therefore about due to turn suddenly with a deft irnllop in either paw. A Confession These football games are hard to pick : For either some one Or fumbles on the 10 And soaks the Old Dope on the spine. i rtci as for Form alas alack a, Vaeh week it gets on Awful Crack Jiascball's uncertain golf's a curse Hut football's getting even worse. THERE may he a greater all-around football player in America than Rodgers, of AVcst A'irginia, but no one has uncovered his name as Novem ber slides briskly along the waning autumnal trail. And no one very likely will. SCRAPS ABOUT SCRAPPERS -By LOVIS PHILADELPHIA'S punching yirotll- . . gal makes his return to the ring here f Atilcrlif T o. nA,llftr ilio irront Lew tonight. Lew lendler the great Jew Tendler, as Denver scribes christened him will appear in his first fracas since t1AvtM- . .' i,.. ,, ,..m,i .i,oll boxing in the woolly and wild, when he plavs host to Georgie Erne, who hails from Htlffalo. in the star set-to Ut the Nationnl Club. For about a year Ten dler hns been a persistent challenger for Ilenny Leonard's title, until now he has decided that the champion virtually ad mits having outgrown the Uttl-pound division, nnd the chances of meeting the wonderful New Yorker are nil. In meeting Erne. Looie will find himself opposed to a clever, shifty foof who de pends on speed rather than on n punch. Oeorgie, in his Inst bout, proved his cleverness when he outboxed "Willie .Tackson, the terrific right-hand socket-. There is little doubt that Tendler will try his utmost for n knockout in nn effort to accomplish a feat in which Jackson failed. ITanT (Kill) Ilrown, the South Philadel phia schoolboy, who looks like one of this clty'a most blooming lightweights, will appear In tho semi at the National tonight Ills opponent will be Fighting Al Thompson Other boutH are llddle O'Kewfe 'fl "HapDj" Smith Mike Castle s Tummy tlorman and Willie Kalu s Johnny Maloney. Clinrley rills, the Australian, will bo at the National tonight, according to a letter received from hH manager. Clarenco Gil lespie. Hie latter Is awfully peeed. nr rutdnff Tendler of running out of two bquta with Pitts "IMtta will tie In I'hllly to show up Tendler and Glassman," wrote uiuespie. Johnny Drnmmle. r.enny Leonard's most recent challenger, will show how well ho ran bor In the hadltner nt the Olympla Mon day. Drummle'B opponent will bo Jennaril's sparring paitncr, Joe llenjamln. Tommy Jamison and Georgia Heynolds Iiok In the mminnal. Pat Wallace vs. Wattling Mack K. O Oalley a Hughey Iluttblnson nnd FranUle Jerome vs. Tommy Clekry aro the oher numbers. . Jack Ifnnlon bays Peto Herman and Joo Lynch each have posted ISOrt as forfeits for weight, US ponuds, ringside, for tnelr special meeting at the Olympla Wednesday night. Ab the mentioned poundage Is the recognized bantamweight limit a knockout for I.nch would win the title for mm. Johnny Maloney vb Kddlo Mullen will bo the stellar snap at the Cambria net Fri day night In the semifinal, Joe McCarron, a brother of Jack, will take on Willie JIis Closkey, Herman Tiulor'a next nhow at the At lantic :lty S. I' will be put on Thurs day night. wth Jeff Smith and Jamaica Mil hi the feature elght-roun.l go. Walter "eiiny VB Jimmy Mendo and llltz Walters s. Mar cel llouldet aro two other eight roundB nnd the onnlng Bis-round mix will bo between Hilly telne and Jimmy Tendler. Johnny Murray; of New York, will box In Detroit Novemb-r 10. He will meet Mike Ilnndee nn the same program that will show Mike O'Dofwd In action against Butcli O'Hagen, Tho middleweight champ proved he was boxing In great form wlieii ill; stopped Willy Kramer In a couplo of rounds the other night. Miirrua Williams ha everything ready for ,,. n..inM IV, A.irlllnrttim A. C lUefa- day night. Whltev Fitzgerald Is getting himself In perfect fettle for tho main mix. In which he inevts the lane Larry Hansen. Pal' Mornn haa an extraordinary lorns reach for a llghtnelght He has the same Bpin as Ilussell Manlerl, a middleweight. TO'IOIIT The National A. A. (Lew) George Young TENDLER vs. ERNE Iluffalo FOtlK OTHKB TOP-NOWII IKH1TH I TICKKTH AT IIONACIIIV'H, SS S, 11TJI ST,' U' Hrsvrutlu 7 IBB 1ICKI AII0C 0 1', W.J 1 j IN THESE HV GKANTLAND ItlCR Ml rlghta reserved. 7; Wisconsin, 0. Hanard a battle, but it will be un Murray and n strong line, looks in anything Prlncetou lias to offer. blocks a kick - yard line II. JAFF. ! who Is nlM here from New Orleans seeklm scraps and eheckles i Je Kusso. manager of Pal Moran. has trnn,rt mlnv ea(,lnB boxerH, including two I ' liamnlons, Pete Herman and Jock Dempscj .IJiunir Clalibi, who Is still living In Australia and still Is a middleweight, won I a twenty-round bout on points from a 180 Pound opponent, George Cook, recently. Andy Krhtnader, who came hero unknown and unheralded, had several big matches before ho Invaded Philadelphia It Is under stood that he stood off Joe Jeanette, In an ciglit-ruund tontest some time ago, Amherst Expects Tussle Amherst, Mass., Nov. 8. Tho Amherst football (uiuad has been working steadlll during the last week behind closed gates In preparation for the Wesleyan game today This will undoubtedly be the hardest game of the searon for the Purple and White, as the Wesleyan team Is the strongest In years. Another Upset! Alfred Blanked llnrnell. N. Y Nov. 8 Tho football team representing Mansfield Normal College de feated Alfred University on the local grid iron csterday uftcrnoon by the score of in to o, Frank Jerome vs. Tommy Cleary Joe Daly vi. Hughie Hutchinson Patsy Wallace vs. Battling Mack Tommy Jamison vs. Geo. Reynolds JOIl jmiknV BENJ1MEN vs. DRUMM1E SPECIAL Wednesday KveniiiE, Nor, 1" Pete Herman World's Champion ' Joe Lynch Conceded Logical Contender And Four Real Star Bouts' Admission, SOet lies., SI, $, $3 heals Jsow ou Salo' AUDITORIUM A. A.ft. COIICST -tM;il IX TIIK CITY 4 Larry Hansen vs. Whitey Fitzgerald, Leo Stahl vs. Frank Britton Young Fulton Mt. Jack l'errr Tjrone Coktelln is, JIain Jack Mcll Hllnius i Millie Ielton is. New Minsk , ' i '? Jiasliet Ball AT .MUS1CAI, KI'Ml IIA1.I. ROK I,01irf.T STKEET TOMI1III' AT 8:30 ll'I'l OCK Kahtern Leuguo Clifliuplonttilp Hanio De Neri vi. Phila. American! Admission SHc OOo and 7.1o j I'rellinlnary Oame n,t 7:?,o p V. K. V. II. A. . All-Collegia,.. A Phila. Jack O'Brien's $1 r- Months' lloilng Course B Tj I-jiroll for roiirnanieni iieremner zu - .iti H. I.'. Cor. mill Si CHIXTNIJT tth Fleer Jrl llelnllM-sellow nace-v'iSl Ilmnj. Itnok 11 Hoys' Classes Ktery Saturday, 10 A, HI. D1A ;b- SBlli and Slurket St-1 TfiMfrniT linuxi' Hire 1 VilUlf "-- JJjtJ. t, tk I ,V i '5 t ' -VJ , Ai, j. '. rt 11 .te.-- j