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did you sea first? A. I saw a telephone
' boy, who sent my name Into Senator Varo's
prlvato otnce. Tlie door wns closed.
9. Did the boy tnka your name In? A,
Ho, I tiling ho phoned It ln.f
Q. Then what occurred? A. I wns ad
mitted by Flntey, who came and opened
tho door and beckoned for me to bo In.
Q. The defendant Flnley, who sits hero?
A. That Is 1dm.
. When you got In whnt aecurreit anil
nu alil? (lire the conversation In ltd
urder, In It aequenr.
A. f nukeil Mr. William Vare If ho would
Ite reponlble (or III order (hat wan left at
our olllre for .eighteen men by Ileutacli, and
he nkld that Dentucli liad ample money to
pay li J btlln. il nil lie had no doubt that he
mould pay them and everything would lie all
right. He did not neem Inclined to nay any
more and I left the office, and when I rot to
the entry, lit the rorrlilor, on the utile en
trance, Flnley follonrd me. l'lnley said,
lleutKcli linn sufflcent money. You need
not worry abont your money. He hn lots
of money." I t.nlil, "All right, 1 will net the
men." I left the office, Vnre's office, nnd
wept down to the Street, where I met Sena
tor Kit Vnre on the corner. This was on a
Tuesday prior to the primary election.
On n Monday I had been to my doctor's,
nnd there 1 hod met
Q. Who was yqur doctor' A. 'Doctor
Klrby, nt Twelfth and Spruce. In the
evening It Was.
Q. You were there nnd ou met who?
A. Detective James) Tate.
Q. What waa aald7 A. Tate said to
me there was going to bo hell In the Fifth
Ward. I sa'd, "Yes, ,1 suppose there nie.
AVe have tin order for some men down
there." He said, "Well, If you see the
Senator tell the Senator to send for me,"
he nays, "I will go down nnd help him "
No ; he said, "Tell the Senator to send
for me."
Q. So on, Tuesday ou a' 0U enmo out
of 'the olflco and you met Senator Vare?
A. I Mild to Senator Vare
Q. Where did u meet him? A. Right
at the corner of the Lincoln Building.
Q, What did he say and what did ou
say? A. I said to Senator Vnre. "You
ought to send for Jlmmle Tate." He says,
"Yes. Tell him I want to sec him."
Q. What did you then do? A. I le
turned Jo my ofllco nnd phoned to Tate s
office.
Q. Did you Get him on the phone? A
Yes, sir. .
Q. What did jou say? A. I told him to
go over nnd see Senator A'are. About ten
minutes later Lieutenant Dorcy Wood came
to my office,
Q What wa said by you nnd him? A
Ho said that the captain of detectives had
sent him to my office.
Q, Who Is the captain of detectives? A
James Tnte.
Q, Very well. Oo on with the conver
satlon. A Ho asked me what men ho
should tend to tho Fifth Ward I said
1 didn't know any detectives nt City Hall,
only Harry Clark, who wns familiar with
things In the Fifth 'Wnrd as ho had lived
thero all his life, nnd I said he would be
a good man to go down there I cannot
rn.iipnihor nnv other conversation that I
had w.ili Wood at that time.
Q I that the only detective that you
named to hlni? A That Is tho only one.
Q. Did he open the conversation? A. He
did. ,
Q Repeat again what he said to joir.
A He said that Captain Tate had sent
him down to see me, nnd what men did 1
want or did he want to go down to the
rifth Waid.
Q. Men? A. He meant detectives.
Q Detectives? A. I said that I didn't
know any detectives over nt City Hall ; that
flark, Harry Clark, would be a good man
to send down there, ns he had lived there
nil his life.
Q. After he left, what did you do that
day? A. Well, that was Tuesday Tues
day afternoon Sullivan came back from
New York. He came Into my office and
said, "I have the men here." I said, "Where
nre the men?" Ho Mild, "At Fifteenth nnd
, Market," I sad. "You get Jlmmle Clark
.and let Jlmmle Clark take them down to
"the Fifth Ward," nnd they did.
Q. How do you know they were taken to
the Fifth Ward? A. Well, I know from
the fact of the trouble.
Q. Did cither of them repeat It? A. No.
I didn't see either mart until tho next day
Q. What occurred further that day, If,
anything? A Nothing of Importance.
Q. Were you at your office that night?
A Yes.
Q. Did you hear of a disturbance at the
Flnletter Club? A. Yos, sir. I was Blind
ing down at the door, and several people
came by and told us what happened, I
didn't pay much attention to Iti I went
hom6 about 11 o'clock with Mr. O'Farrell.
He and 1 went home together.
Q. Mr. O'Farrell? Yes, sir.
Q. Mr O'Farrell Is the head of your
detective agency? A. Yes, sir.
Q. His name Is Val O'Farrell? A. Val
O'Farrell; yes, sir.
Q Ho has a detective agency In New
York? A. Yes, sir; nnd In Boston and
Chicago.
Q. la he tho head of your' agency? A. He
Is tho president.
Q, And the responsible owner of it? A.
No, sir. It Is a company.
Q. You don' mean a corporate company?
A. Incorporated under tho laws of the State
of New ork.
Q. Then you aro an agency of the parent
company In New York ; Is that IT? A.
Yes.
Q. You say you went home about 11
o'clock that night? When did you come to
town, the next Wednesday, at your office?
A, Mr O'Farrell and I arrived at our of
flee about half-past JO the next morning.
Q. What did you learn when you got
thire? A. Shortly after we got Into the
office wo heard that a policeman had been
killed. I thlhlc one of our men came In and
said there was a policeman killed In the
Fifth Ward.
Q. How did you learn that In the street
or how? A.. General gossip, and they ve
talking about It.
Q. He came In with a statement that a
policeman had been killed. A. Yes. Short
ly after that O'Sulltvan came Into our of
fice. I asked him what the trouble was In
the Fifth Ward, nnd If he knew that a
policeman had been killed, and he said,
"No, there In nothing to It; there Is no
policeman killed." I said, ;'You go out
and ascertain all about it." He went oyt
and came back In a lltthj while nnd sa'id a
policeman was killed i by one Of the men
who had been brought from flew York.
I asked him If he knew the man. lie
i said. "No, be didn't know this man." He
said this fellow he didn't know a: all. 1
said, "You and them are a flno lot of
ducks to bring over to this town to raise
all this trouble." Ho said, "If I hadn't
taken care of It this time, they will holler
on me." I said, "You have nothing to fear,
It Is the fellows themselves." I said, "How
ever, I will get them a lawyer," and I sent
for Harry Scott (Henry J. Scott). I toon
him pver nnd told him th'estvmen were here
In the interest of the Vares, and that he
would lose nothing If he went over there
and defended them and I would see he
would get a fee.
0. Whut next becurred? A. Then O'Sul
llvan said that the men were all around,
Q, This was the day of the murder? A.
Yes. He said. 'They wanted the money,"
I said, "As far as I am concerned, they
will never get a quarter; they. will have
to Walt until Jhe politicians pay them be
fore they will tct a rent you had better
tell them to go away and when I act the
money I will fclve It to thera." O'Sulllvan
evidently did that, for I didn't hear from It.
Q. What was the result of .the message J
have you seen him since? A. He was
around here a day or bo.
Q. What next Occurred? A. About
o'clock In the afternoon I recrjied a phone
call from a roan named Pmlth.
Q. From where? A. From the 1UU
Carlton Hotel at llroad and Watnnt streets.
Our (tlrl said a man named Hmllli wanted
to talk to ne. I got oh the plinne and If
was WWWaan rlltr. Plater aM. "Come
' ba KM MI." I IHa. ai, Cll,"
Bet any answer. I thought possibly It
might be 201, maybe I mode a mistake,,
and I walked up the stairs to 201, I
knocked on tho door. The door was an
swered by n. maid and an old lady was
eating her dinner there. 1 asked for Mr.
Flnley. Sho said she didn't know him.
She said some one else lived there. I don't
know Just what his name wns. After that
I walked down to the elevator nnd took a
car down to tho office nnd went to the
desk.
Q. What office, the office of the hotel 7 A.
The office of the hotel and went to the
desk. I asked the clerk at the desk for
Mr. Flnley'n room. Tti clerk said Mr
Flnley was In 404, and I want to say right
here, that Mr. Flnley was not registered
In 401, but was registered jn 101. I went
up to room 404, which It facing Broad
street, and knocked at tho door. The door
was opened by Flnley In his shirt sleeves
and the roorh was empty. Flnley said,
"Give me the particulars about this Fifth
Ward murderer." I said, "I don't know
nn thing about the particulars." I said.
"All I did was this; When I heard that
one of thero men killed a police officer, I
secured the services of Harry J Scott, nnd
Flnley. you have got to pay Scott a fee
You have got to pay the money now to
get these men out of town This Is n
hell of a mes? for me.
Q. Well? A. Flnley eald, "Well, I can't
bet money at this time. How much do jou
want?" A said, "I ought to have n thou
sand dollars, nnd the men have got to be
paid." He said, "I will get It f6r you the
first thing In tho morning," We may have
talked about other things, but If wo did
I forget It. I returned to my office, nnd
the next morning about 10 o'clock. Flnley
called me on tho phono again and said.
"This Is Smith." He said. "You wait In
your ofllce until ou hear from me." About
an hour or two afterward, he called ngnln.
This was on Thursday He said. "Walk
down on Twelfth street, between Twelfth
nnd Thirteenth streets."
I walked down to Walnut street nnd met
him right below the St James Hotel. "Well."
I said, "Flnley, what nbout the money?" "I
haven't got It now," he said, "but It will be
nil right I will get you a thousand dollars
now and I will get you some more Monday."
"Well," I said, "what time will I get It?"
"Well," he said, "I am going to see about
It now," or words to that effect. He said,
"Where are jou going now?" I said, "Bnck
to my ofllce " He said, "Walt there until
ou hear from me." We talked -a while,
then I went bnck to my office.
Shortly after that I received n phone
call again from Flnley. Ho t.nld: "You will
Bet that tho first thing In the mall tnmoi
row ingrnlng." The next morning wai Fri
day morning. About 10 or half-past tn,
or 11 o'clock, probably, 1 received n cnll
Iiom "Mr Smith" ngaln. It wag Flnle.
He said, ''What's the number of vour
ofllce?" f said, "234 Real nutate Trust
Building " "Well," he said, "don't leave
there " He (.aid, "You will get a letter." I
sat In the office until afternoon, nnd then
went out' to have my lunch nnd came b ick
probably nbout 1 o'clock. I can't remem
ber just what time It was, but when I camo
back Judge I'crsch was sitting In my office
and thero was n letter on my desk, a spe
cial delivery letter, with big capital letters
on It, my full tin mo and olflco address.
Q. You mean your name was In capital
letters? A. My namo was In capital letters.
I said to Persch. "I guess this Is the
money " I had been talking to Pcrsch nbout
not receivingthe money, nnd the treatment
we were getting from Flnley.
Q You mean Magistrate Persch? A
Magistrate Person. I opened the letter, nnd
there were two blank pieces of paper. Be
tween the sheds wns a thousand-dollar
note, t pllked up the thousand-dollar note
and said to Pcrsch, "I dfan't like the feel of
this thing"
Q I do not care for your conversation
with Pcrsch What did you do with the
note? A. I gave it to Persch
Q To do whnt with it? A. To take it
to bank und get changed.
Q. And he left? A. He left
Q Now, Mr. Maloney, what did jou do
that afternoon then? A. I left on the 6
o'clock train Frldny night for New York.
Q, Between the Incident of tho receipt
of the J1000 bill and j'our going to' New
York, did jou see nnjbody or talk with
flpjbody repectlng these men that were
brought over In the Fifth Ward, or the af
fairs of the Fifth Ward? A. In Philadel
phia? Q Yes. A. No, sir.
Q. How long were you in New York'i
A. Until Sunday night.
Q. Did j'ou soe Jnmes Clark In New
York? A. I did.
Q. Whero did you see him? A. At the
hotel, 125th street and Seventh avenue, the
Sf Theresa. I gate him some money thut
was duo him from our office.
Q. What did you do In New York Friday
night? A. I went to Shanley's nnd met
Mr O'Fnrrell
Q. What did you do on Saturday? A.
On Saturday I saw him.
Q. Did you havo a conversation with Mr.
O'Farrell? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Respecting the matters you have now
detailed? A. Yes, sir ; respecting this case
Q. When did you come to Philadelphia
next? A. Sunday morning.
Q. With whom? A. With Mr O'Farrell.
Q. Where did jou go? A. I went to your
office.
Q. How came jou to come to my office?
A Well. In consequence of a conversation I
had with Mr. .O'Farrell In New York wo
called J'ou up.
Q. Not we. Who? A. Mr. O'Farrell
called you up.
Q Did he make an appointment to see
me? A. He did.
Q. When and where? A. At your office
at 1 o'clock on Sundaj-.
Q, Did j'ou nnd he. come there? A. We
did.
Q. Did you make a general statement
to me? A I did.
Q In consequence of what I said to you
did you subsequently meet the District At
torney and myself? A. Yes. sir
Q. And make your statement to him?
A. I did
Q. When did you next see or talk with
Mr. Persch? ' A 1 didn't see Mr Persch
again until Tuesday night last.
Q How came you to see him"' A. I
called him Up on the telephone
Q, Inconsequence of that call, did he go
to your house? A Hi went to my house,
at 4900 Chestnut street, nt half-past 10.
Q. Did you ask him anything respecting
the note at tfiat visit of his? A. Yes, sir,
I asked him what he.htfl done with the
thousand dollar note He Bald that he had
put It In .a trust company with a trust
officer.
Q. Did you aslf him for It? A. I did, and
he said he weir, I asked him would he
Send it to mo In the next morning' mall
hy special delivery. He said he would
Q. The next morning did you receive a
letter bjr, special delivery? A. A special
delivery letter was senl to my house.
Q. Were you In the city and did -you go
out to your house ana gei imu miicn ..v.
No, sir. The letter as recelyed by a Mr.
Hardy, i .. a
Q. Were .you In the heart of ths city and
did' you go out o your Chestnut street
house, to get that letter? A. Yes, sir- .
Q. Who accompanied you? Two of the
members of the German 'American Truit
bompany and Mr. Rebraan and Assistant
District Attorney Gordon, your son.
Q. Whert all of you arrived nt the house,
what did you doT .A. We met Mr. Hardy.
Q. Who waB he? A. A friend of mine.
Q. He lives there? A. Yes, sir.
o.'ivhit did he do? A. He was sitting
there with a bo'ok In his hand. I asked him
If he had received a special delivery letter.
He eald, "YV and opened the book and
the letter fell out,
Q. Did he give you the letter? A. es,
Q. Sealed or, unsealed? A. Sealed.
Q. What did y6u do with It A. I handed
It to Mr Gordon.
Q The Assistant Plstrict Attorney? A
Yea. sir.
Q. Was the envelope, examined by all the
nih.r iifnuH there? A: Yii. dr.
J. -C. I -7-ti -JJ..J. t. ii. k T Uli
W um yoajjTOl." f-u T.' --'
Mr Gordon I rtm going to show htm
that and ask him If that Is the envelope he
received.
Mr, Rorkc Yes: that la the envelope.
Mr. Gordon That Is the envelopo?
Mr. Carr I haven't any Idea whether It Is
or not
By Mr. Gordon Q, Is that the envelopa7
(Envelope shown witness.) A. That Is tho
envelope.
Q. From the day it was delivered to you
In j'our house until this moment had j'ou
seen It ngaln? A. No, sir.
Q Do you know Senator Vare well? A.
Yes, Blr.
0 And his brother, the Congressman?
A. I do.
Q Una j'our office done business for
them before this occasion? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Wl.l J'our books show the business
you did for them? A. They will.
Q When before this occasion thnt J'ou
havo named, when you got the men brought
from New York, had you transacted any
business with Senator Vare A.Onr ngency
was engaged by Henntor Vare last Janunrj.
We brought noine men from New York and
went to HnrrUlnirit.
Q When before that had you done nny
business for the Vares' A Since then we
have
Q Where? A Philadelphia
Q. When? A. I think It was last
ftprlhg. Our books will show
Q What did It consist of A. An In
ventilation made In South .riiltnilelphlik
when the (Internment was Inventlgatlng
South l'lilladelphla.
Q Did j'ou bring men from abroad then?
A. No. sir. '
Q. You used local agents? A. Yes.
Q Do you know James A Carej ? A.
Yes, lr.
Q How long since have j'ou spoken to
James A. Carey? A. 1905.
Q Have jou b;en a political opponent
and not friends Flnre then? A. Not u
po itical opponent, for I haven't voted In
Philadelphia, since 1905.
Q Hnvo j'ou not been friends? A. No,
sli we were not friends.
Q Did you speak when you passed eJCh
other by? A. No, sir.
Q When did- jou see Senator Penrose
last? A. Lafct Januarj".
Q. Speak to him? A. No, sir.
Q How long since j-ou havo spoken to
Senator Penrose? A About el j-cais.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. ABBOTT'
Q. How long has Mi Clark been with
you ? .
Maloney was taken In hand for cross
examination by Attorney Abbott, but noth
ing Important w is developed. Then Attorney
Rorke began questioning the witness, .with
no better resultB.
John N. Fort, Jr.
By Mr. Gordon Q. Where do you live?
A 508 SixtJ'-seventh avenue. Oak Lane.
Q. Whnt Is your business? A. Trust of
ficer of tho German-American Truit Com-
pnnj-. I also have charge of their safe de
posit. Q Do you know George A. Pcrsch?
A Yes.
Q. Did he deliver n thousand-do'lar bill
to n safe In jour company? A. He called
with a '1000 bill.
Q When? A. On Thursday or Friday,
a week before last. I think It was Frldaj.
That would be tho 20th or 21st.
Q Did he talk with J'ou' A. No.
Q. What did he do with the bill? A.
He asked me to put it In n bo for him nnd
keep it.
Q. Did jou do it" A. I put it In an
envelope, enr-marked It and put It In my
box In the inult.
Wltnebs then told of Pcrsch coming to
get the bill on September 25, and said he
told Persch the District Attorney was malt
ing Inquiries about the bill. He took the
number of the bill, and saw witness put it
In nn envelopo and address It to Maloney
in the presence of other witnesses Then
ho and the other witnesses went out and
watched Persch mall It Later he went to
the Maloney address und saw Matonej' re
ceive It from Mr Hardy He told of re
turning to the office of Judge Gordon and
then to the District Attornci''s office, where
Mie identified the 11000 bill nguln Shown
tno bill In court Fort Identified It once more
JERSEY PARTY LEADERS
CONSIDER PLATFORMS
Republicans to Adopt Local Op-
tion and Democrats Likely
to Ignore Issue
TRHNTON, Oct 2
Republican und Democratic State officials
and nominees to State offices are in tcsslon
here this afternoon to adopt platforms on
which their respective campaigns leading up
to next month's general election will be
made. The Republicans will adopt n plank
for local option, but It will be written In
such a way that legislators from anti-local
option counties will not be bound to (.up
port the bill The Democrats are expected
to ignore the llqugr question nnd make
Governor Edge's law for a State road tax
their chief object of attack.
Governor Edge made the keynote speech
of the Republican convention when he de
clared for the elimination of "senseless
partisanship" and for constructive legisla
tion for the benefit of J he State. He as
serted that the standard set by the Re
publican party called for the complete "cf
faccment of partisanship and the trans
cendence of patriotism" and camo out for
the fullest measure of local option home
rule, "without evasion or quibble," consis
tent with Individual or county primary
pledges.
The Governor, after reviewing the work
cf his administration, said that It must
be a source of genuine satisfaction to New
Jersey Republicans and to all other citi
zens that the party In power In the State
during the year that the Federal Govern
ment, under Democratic administration, en
tered upon the great world war, showed
Itself big enough to co-operate with the
nation without partlelan jirejudlco. New
Jersey, he said, has furnished 45,000 men
for the battle line, a larger number, he
believed, In proportion to the population
than any other State In the Union.
He then detailed what New Jersey has
been doing In the way of organizing to aid
in the war.
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