EVEKma ledobr-philadblphia; wbdnesdat, November a iti BASKETBALL NEEDS ASSISTANCE OF REFEREE TO MAKE FASTER GAME-MOTHER SPORT NEWS1 tEFEREE COULD 'SPEED UP PLAY AT BAiMlMDiUiL Cany Nominal Fouls Might Be OverlooKea oy nvm the Olhciais kG GAME. ON TONIGHT fclSTTKS MUflCR 8TANDINO f..... ? :ss? itViHinV.::. i ." W Qmtf Csmden Armsrr. m4 nnt-tr TTAT.l. ' .. . nniVmll refers who Wftft cnlid " ot the most competent ?2mK list of the central board, who de- r " '" V. -.. .Il in tuna u n lISTen Yh. offsns. for holdlnS when It Ptte'rule was done more through the ex- ' m i' . ..- than Intent. lie fSjrioWd these ofTenses. of course, only Wur It Indeed Is absurd for a football ' refer to penallie a team for holding when tS offense occurs on the opposite side f S the center where the play la made nnd 1 when. In the Judgment of the referee, the ?.... not .ffeeted. IA vi. ... ml. should be annlted to bas- fcketbalL A high magnate of the Kastern fcSirue stated recently that there were M m m .. ..Il.il ,w tinder the nnilhle- f 6 more ioui t..v.. ..-.. : .r . ? fflcll system than there were In the past f with only the referee In the cage. This 'i " i. . .nyui Drmnunt for the retention rf both the umpire and referee, but It has Mttmr to do with the fact that too many i r7 ... .it-l r.mMlUu nt tvrin In (loins' i , calling or how many are thus engaged. v.ln.l Fouls . ..- .1.. tMalnvltv nt font an railed e VTBIIS U9 iitjtiw - -- .- ..... ....-.. 1 n the man with the ball and his Immediate k -. there are many others called the 1 eommliston 0f which does not hurt the of e Unite, nor does It have any affect on the ercrress or me gamo eccii whoh n. in i Liied It makes a bad break In the con- f Unulty of play. F ........V.mII atam that rAfcSllvee ItflAtf J m puK.lunn ., v.,v ...-..... ..... I tato a tossing contest between two men It who try lime aim hkaih m w.i ma ncv Vt from the fifteen foot lino Is not r game at Tail. Tney miani aa wen uu jjiniut, Muuna , u far as thrill of competition Is concerned. 5; 1RW w"" - ----- --- -" W. u..u BttAnitnnrA nnii n Iiiirirlnip nf nnnu. lir Interest In the affairs of the teams. . On the other hand, when there are com- !..... . fmilfl nnil thai ntnv la fnmt I the fans work up an enthusiasm for the ' fime ana lor meir lavurno icim which . tots not wear away between scheduled fr7- Of course. It Is true that somo players In- V ttnllOnaiiy maKe touin, pariiuuiariy in K Jumping for the ball. This should not be r loltraiea. nevenncicss mere are oiner canes where the official or officials could overlook i nominal offense and greatly help the proe. Big Game Tonight Tonight's game at the Camden Armory bttwecn the Skeeters and the Oreystock St probably will bo the most Interesting ' ot the week. In the first place, It will ' li their Initial clash for the season of llll-lT. Then, as both the Greys nnd Cundtn are heavy fnvorltes for the pen- vtnt In their respective communities, the 1 tatcome' eagerly will be awaited by hun- itotit ohbasketball followers. Camden, with the same line-up as last iMuon. Is many per cent stronger be f hum Manager Henry has the men working Jbftther as they never have done before. lUit year the Skeeters ran wild, as far ?M team play was concerned. Now they 'km their orders from Henry either to get togtther and play the game of which they are capable or look for another Job. Htnry Is well versed In basketball, and the players have the greatest respect both for his cage astuteness and Judgment. Con iwjaently, the habitues of the Camden Ar mory have rooted their team to two vic tories out of two starts, and they will itrlr to make It three In a row this eve ting. The game Is scheduled to begin at I o'clock. Both teams will use their regulars. Steele and Adams will be opposed by Mo Williams and Cross, while the drey for ward!, Fogarty and Sugarman, will be guirded by Brown and Dlegan. The bat tle at center will be a (keen one. Dolln ku been putting up a fine game this year, which means that Lawrence will have to go at a fast clip to keep up with him. YALE VICTORY OVER BROWN ON SATURDAY WOULD MAKE SEASON SUCCESS FOR COACH TAD JONES It Has Been a Long Time Since Old Eli Has Beaten Back All Preliminary Opponents Before Princeton and Harvard Struggles By GRANTLAND RICE 010 it the vilnlrr . nni rfl.Ml.nlii flo plperf (he p0fi o a sooner nViy; .And well know futt what that famtd bard meant IVhtn ht evolved that pesrimbtto toy. WUh BOf and tennis on a southbound train, IVIfh baseball done and football on the tooj, HAen toMd pales hotel agatntt the wlmtoto pane lletl hath no Jury like the bard at bay. I look ahead nou to the Innl run, And when that come), with alt the dope a4kew. It) plans are loAd to wear a loaded gun For htm who eays, "Hey, pretty toft for you." Tad Jones's Start IF TAD JONKS can steer his Yale ma chine safely by Brown on Saturday his first season at New Hnven can be voted a substantial success, whatever happens ln tho two remaining games. It has been a long lime now since Yale beat back all preliminary opposition beforo her Princeton and Harvard game. Washington and Jefferson, Brown, Col gate, Notre Dame nnd others hnve been peeling oft patches of Uulldog hide for n good many seasons. So If Jones can run the gantlet ot early season battles his sys tem will be well under way toward success. No Yale man would view the proceed ings with any great cheer It the Illue llno-up should lose to both Princeton and Harvard. Uut even two defeats here would take no credit away from Jones and his system, considering the fact that he has had less than a year on the Job. It took Haughton five years at Harvard to score his first touchdown against Yale, although he started his career with a vic tory Last season Princeton lost both to Harvard and Yale, nnd yet Rush received Just credit for being the beit coach Nassau had known In almost a decade The Conference Upset Minnesota, Chicago, Illinois and Wiscon sin, especially the former three, hae ruled tho Western Conferenco so long that no one took It for granted that a stranger ever would be admitted to the top In this conference championship Ohio State and Northwestern have been the Cardinals and Iteds of the melee. They rarely hao been taken seriously Yet today these two are the only unbeaten conferenco teams. In Chick Harlcy Ohio Stote has one of the great halfbacks of the season. His fame may not be known In tho East, but few In the East ever heard of Elmer Oll phant until he came from Purdue to West Point Harley so far has done een finer all around work than Le Oore or Casey, for he has beaten State's two hardest rlvnli almost without help. Other Upsets? Since last Saturday was replete with up. sets, those who had frrured next Saturday's Scraps About Scrappers returns to a finish now are lieglnnlng to ponder n. bit. Last week the two cinch bets In the West r that M.nnesota and Wis consin would romp along to victory- Bon were overthrown, ln the Kast no one fig ured Washington and Lee with an outside chance against the Navy. Yet W. and I trimmed the Annapolis contingent by a larger margin than Pittsburgh ran up. So the widespread tip that Harvard and Yale would overthrow Trlnceton and Ilrown may extend the upet business by another length or so when the ultimate results are In Tho Presidential Score .4 ice reinarltrit some months before Anenl the ptesirfrntlal score, WMts frentled oratory iras abroad through out the land, Whoever ilanrft etrclrrf note, Whoever stands rejected note, We'll srtli be doing- buttnrss nt the tame old stand. Golf Dont's Don't drive more than 300 yard on a :00ard hole. Don't waste all your time looking at the ball. The scenery frequently li delightful Don't start i-heerlng when you get nn eight on a four hole Don't concede our opponent In a tough match fifteen and twenty foot putts. Ho may miss ono on n sloping green. .Mother Goose in tho RitiR The north uHnd doth blow And we shall have mow, And what trill Jest WHIard do then, poor Wight t When the circus h through And the meat bills art due And there It nobody around he oan fight t When a deep yearning or an uncontrol lable desire seizes some American citizen to win a world series championship he buys the Red Sox and waits until next October. Any number of free, untrnmmeled Ameri can voters will fall for the bunk both parties rush to the front, and then come out next spring nnd cill some ball player n bonehead for being caught off first. If thero was as much bone In baseball ns there Is In politics, the national pastime would be a solid smear of Ivory, erected upon a concrete foundation "Still," you may rejoin, "haven't you for gotten the winter league meeting of base ball magnates and the six-day bicycle race 7" In this morbid existence there Is no such luck. Teleao. O , rromntrrs fo about to rut one J'r on th bis boxlnc renters Johnnr Klllwna C ikK1" wlh n nil rrohsbllltr will mret In U;J..V;n,1 'own In a twh-roun! no dprlilon jnsten shorllr before or alter the firm ol the I i.U.t.,'.u'xJ""' ,h welsht question Is rroln "J,'j;';e?rr ,, Kllrumn li holdlns out lor tSS roundii rlnsiMei Weleh Inline on 13 pounds at iCl-.m,.on ,h aT f " mstch. Kllbene li ?h.. ,0 mr h lltntwelrnt klnr. sn.t rsther J"" '"; the bout the lestherweltht champion nr tre to tho ltrlton'a welsht. j.JjT!!!''1-. w'!h .! "II eiflted about meettnt (!!" J?un.?'tr,K h Scotch Wop iniernnloea fiSLtV.MV . ,-lP0)'.. ilontelth of. Ifmlr-.jr.hmt',m "S.nOO for a twentr-round championship ,"nteet In New Orleene New Ti?Je LilVi 5 "h J' ' "1J- asrert tbnt this vWi.fcT ;h". best joae he ever heerd Oh. ye. Welsh la Just anxious to meet Dundee, lilt1 hJT0'' ,how ,n ,h" " riHUdelphlans M.i.;.,,i.S.DrF.r,un"r. " witness two of the H. t... n'1 "'nnr fonsrd One le a wer. LVk-iTi"1 J'"1 clevereit In the buelneee. the nl.mJ J. xr nl puneher combined The inm.rl5 0lubN "here the ml will be tated. !Ln..u.n.r. !i lr adranre aale. A bl per boVerl l rcl'l will be apllt between the Election Day Football Scores coiA.r.ar. oaiies fleorsetown, 18. Fordham, 0. New York Unlvoralty. 13. llucknell. 0. Columbia. 0. Htevena, 0 Latasette Freeh, 6, Lafayette Soph, 0. SCOI.ASTIC GAMES Camden TUsh, 20: Olaeiboro. 0. Haddon ltelshte. 47. Ilrown Prep. 0. (St. Luke's, 11. Ilarerford. 3d. 0 Basketball Notes The Roekwood Srholaatlra want iramea with teami. Write F. llrennan, 2200 West Le- a arenue. ,wna wieninc to arranre sames Tuesdays. lyr; and Be turd aye ahould communicate with v. ..rt.w.m . www .W, .M CBIIKIIM PU.,,1 Tke ew Club et William P. Murphy's Bona ropaiiy wants samea for Wedneaday nlshts. Write It, W. Klefer, 609 Cheatnut street. LhS 'Trli i H. ' llliutrollno Ifie itill Proof and the Aihbv Collar. 55c It Would Be a Pull-Proof With Any Other Name The reputation, not the name, makes the tie. The name "Pull-Proof" means all that the word Implies; be sides, tho tie has a slldesy band. Our Arrow Collars are no different than any other Arrow collars but our stock Is larger we sold more yesterday than some stores carry. jjuutyorQJh neg. Trademark March 18, 191t Six V Store 1430 Chestnut St. 1038 MarketSt. Ilroad & Olrard Ave. 24SO N. Front St. SS17 Woodland Ave. 1305 .Market Ht. (After Not. 15th) Scholastic Notes Benrr llenae fAml I. Ichoal and varsity player Northaaat Hlch Muhlenburr this o, oaa oeen taken to the Allentown ItoS' ""V " wf. Dou KL SUMS. Vital by Dr. John II. Price, the Muhlenburs joact for an X ray photograph of hie lett tujuld-r, bruleed ln the earns with I.ehiuh laat T"1'1 Utu'r hd bn pitying In brilliant Ions Sftnrlf Collins. lelt suard of the Weat Phlla- aiffD In thjt firaMI,-,. mnA will ti itn-t.l- n nlatf WHS this aeaeon. Tho loss of Collins will not "."It had, because Hertiler has returned to KSS ,.5'1 h?..wl" bo rroomed to fit in at lelt Ki in U w,n pU' that position asalnst Cen tral lU,h on Saturday, - SmeBatsBBBBBSBBBBSBBBBBBVIsP "alBSSSsW E3l lafl I sf L2 pEW foods contain greater nutritive oualltl-a ap are mora delicious than Oysters, ins united States Qovernment indorses their food value and everybody, appreciates their wonderfully appetlilns flavor. But don't buy Juat Oysters order and Insist upon getting RYAN'S OYSTERS SBBBBBBBBBBBBBl ftem.1 1 a1t.VI a Sk u - 1 . K" M CWaHUnlnc 150,000 to fi 00,000 1-1 I Wholeeal Onlv HkTJKj Vd U"L ''' Main Ibtff Vt'CJ WIT. OR tM A QO 0YEUC0AT T -OU hum t M' m . tfsf e!7saV i Wimimm sJ1 'Sw 1917 5 -Passenger Touring $825 Here is a distinguished car at a moderate price. On any driveway or boulevard or in any gath ering of motor cars you can feel proud of your Pullman. Its beautiful, decisive lines, luxurious appoint ments and wonderful performance make it a marked car. A great hill climber. Capable of more speed than the average motorist will ever want. 1 8 to 22 miles on every gallon of gas. Completely equipped in every detail. See it Today Standard Motor Gar Go. replar ltM Pullman Di$tributors 622 North Broad Street Race XBII Af vsVlB If 1 'mmm ' m sss!lssssssMsasgHgagggg.ggga wTsT ' wK i Z9F JiPPPssVaPsIPsss9saHs KILBANE EARNEST ABOUT WELSH MIX; HE POSTS FORFEIT Featherweight King Puts Up $5000 to Bind Go With Lightweight Czar DUNN FAVORS OWN MAN doned ior .SiSVi.,on,.li' r informed, has abn. ? r.lq?nl..for T, "ahtweUht crown only T a few months. Itenlamln i1nnt lntnrf In K" "fred Weljh for that lensth of time, lie in., ",mIthlB ol more Importance on hn mind ! .X .mu,","..w,,h. '"hnnr Kllbane, Th. let Ine ihi-1.10 I'sMwetghta eet Leonard to think. rhVmn"1 iini,ht h l,n '' ,h featherweight cnamp l(e la open to prove it m'lrn'!" White, benedict, le enjoying a hon-y-P.9?" . ' "I" be ready to get hacK Into rlns 5!.rnII JB wk r ao. Then Whltey wilt en. SI.?.r.i'0 set after uoiera with country-wide If.1u.l,lon? ankle Is a tough lad. ho la ',.tT "nd . furthermore hoe a g'Kl p'lnc'i 1.1th ;,,"r,l.t"xl battlee under his belt. White KS. h..wo)'' bo willing to take a chanc In i2Ki!L ." it f ohnny Dundee, lleorge Chaney and Johnny Kllbane, r.vr,.P'I",5, wn" outpointed bv Jimmy Me Fi.t ,he other night, but tho New Tork former amateur boier made a good lmnrrlo"v. .Ho I' a ehlfly ld poeeeaiea a etirt lelt lab and "" n etlnslng ahort rlahl. McCabe had no tea party in beating O'lary. A good bantamweight malrh haa len cllnrhed ror Kenelnrton fane at the Nonpareil lor Krldiv night Kdlle O Keele has been booked up with Harney Mann I'reatnn lirown unil Urwr Hayes are on the same program In the semi final Allle Neleon aaw Art O'Loary and Jimmy McX'abo N, and ho ay that whllo XtcCabe la Improving ln eery conteat he is confident he can repeat his lctory of several weke ago O'Leary aleo would bo a victim tor Neleon'a win aide ol hta ledger if tho pair get together. Neleon admits. Disagreement about terms haa proved a hitch In a bout at llaileton between Stea I.atio and Jack Urttton. For tbli reaaon the up-State lane will not eee flrllton to whom eome crltlie con cede the welterweight champlonahlp November SO. The bout was scheduled for ten rounda. A plan Juit has been Inaugurated br a western promoter which la bound to make star Imiere box harder than eier Harry Sherman of Ht Paul Intends to award wind. up boxers who score knocknuta eeteral hundred dollars mom than their purees call for The scheme will bo Introduced Friday nUht In connection with tho Jack Dlllon-MIke Dlbbons bout. Dillon will get an eitra flown It ho wins by a kao Johnny Kllbans, featherweight champion, evidently la a firm believer In that old adage about "money talks." After reading; the latest "spout" by Harry I'ollolt, manager for Freddy Welsh, tho lightweight title holder, anent a bout between his protege and Kllbane, Champion Johnny wroto his check for SSOOO and posted It mltti a Cleve land newspaper as a guarantee of good faith for a match with tha conqueror of Willie Ritchie. Onco before Kllly posted a check In Cleve land, but Inasmuch as Welsh A Co, didn't como to bat with a response to Johnny's challenge for a bout for the lightweight hon ors, Kllbane pulled It down. Hut No. 3 Is now up, and It will remain there until Pol lok nnd Welsh to do one ot two things sign for u bout and actually since the match, or call off proceedings altogether. Manager Jimmy Dunn nays he Is willing to send Johnny against Welsh In a six, ten, twele. fifteen, twenty, twonty-flvo or forty tound bout. "The tllstntico doesn't make a particle of difference to us. for 1 feel cer tain Johnny will outpoint him by a big margin over a short routo and actually bend Freddy kicking should Ujey hook up for twenty or more rounds," Dunn said, iV',8h .hM mad9 wlBht for Charley hlto and other lightweights whom he con siders tougher game than Kllbane, and he shouldn't offor any strenuous objections to "oomlng In" at a poundage within reason for tho king of the 123-pound brigade. Johnnr would be foolish Indeed to take Welsh on at catch weight, for the chances are Freddy would scale nt closer to th welterweight limit than tha recognized ringside weight for th llghtles. Kllbane Is only a little fellow, and while he could stand It to glva away seven or eight pounds to Welsh, he would be making a grievous mlstaks In trying to master a man who tipped th beam at anywhere from fifteen to eighteen pounds more than he did. This weight advantage probably would wear Johnny down In a long bout Training Table at Northeait Hit Collsgea hare nothing en Northeast Mart I ieie. .MN.rn training Quarters are at disposal ol the tied iniT Rlirlt leAa .-J Northeast en ton, Physical Director Qaemr Oerner has started a. training table. Mot M on a miniature scale, , consisting only lunch. at 15. cents wr Mia. Tho menu fa4U naKoa potpie, DgKea Beans, baked apple uuuemi loaei. Ramsey Defeat Gilbert With Cm Herbert Hamsey (Kmrlre) defeated WahW Gilbert lldeal). 100 to 67, laet night in fti eleventh same for th pocket billiard cruunHm ship nt this city Grocers and Butchers $725 Complete Evening Ledger Decisions of Ring Bouts Last Night NKIV ORK Frankle Ilurna defeated ftenny Mef'ov, Pal Jtoore won from IlatUIng lllin Kid Taylor outpointed Teddy Jacobs, ('rankle irilaon bent Knit Thompson, Huffy Cameo lett to fieorge Wcet. Al.l.KNTOWN-Jarkle Clark outpointed Jack MK'arron, fllleen rounds. What I Say Is Tmal I build clothes that create prratlge that lit your form perfectly that site satisfac tion. I'll make you a ilsndy g a r m e n t tu your CI 4. SO tneiiMire at ... rmi Billv Moran TI1K tailoii uiuy moran , Arfh M bee vilndotv uUplay. Uiien ega. "LOUIS BURK REORDERS" -our nrtt vim 'tick was delivered to us on Mar nth, 1111 and alter 'tires months' trial we were so pleased with Its service that we placed an trder for the second on. . .."At this writing we have nothing but ths highest prate for both of thee trucks." (Signed) I.OOT8 nUttJC Olrard Ave. and Id St. THE rirtST IiUCTCT BTKP IN MAKT A nTJStNBSS IS TUB PDIl C1IASR OK A VIM DELIVRItY CAR. r"n WW COST DP DELIVKUT l'Ert rACKAOB makes greater pronta. Ider radius of doing butlneaa brings bigger volume. Then another VIII li added. And eo tho merchant grows. There are 1100 auctt merchants in Philadelphia. for cfsmonetraffon phone DlemonJ 0, $695 VIM MOTOR TRUCK COMPANY $72S Open Expires Broad and Huntingdon Streets ranelBody DELIVERY CARS PIERCE-ARROW MOTOR TRUCKS TO HIRE night li-ton motor trucks Will equip with bodies as required lor responsible parties. Hell phone, locust 1.1(11), (IKOIlttK V. .MINK. 140t Arch Ht. BM(1(HrBgMMMMM.l. All Bumps are injurious to an automobile and a menace to riding comfort. The Hartford Shock Absorber stops all jolting and bouncing, keeps your tires continually on the road and injects the ease and comfort into an automobile that makes riding a real joy. Every car should be Hartford equipped for economy's sake. Get Our Price Firtt Standard Supply & Equipment Co. Autn, Tlallrond, Mine, Milt and Contracting Sappllea Cherry and 13th Streets Writ or phone Walnut E240 i ! i 5 is . 2 A Great Loss and a Greater Gain This business has rounded out twenty two months of existence by distribut ing to owners more than one hundred thousand cars. Price-concessions on this car are rarely asked, and never given with Dodge Brothers consent or to their knowledge. You can therefore figure accurately the amount invested by the public in Dodge Brothers cara, by multiplying . the output by the retail selling price. One hundred thousand cars at $785 per car means a sales-total in les3 than two years time of $78,500,000-ror, with freight-cost added, considerably more than $80,000,000. There have been no bursts of speed In the up-building of this great business. At no time has there been even an at tempt at stimulation of sales or of production. Never for a single day has production been speeded up for the sake of attain ing a total. On the contrary, it has been held down every day within the limits of close, careful, conscientious manufacturing. Both production and sales have been stable, steady and spontaneous scru pulous care in the one, producing huge volume in the other. At this moment, as at every other period, although producing a large volume every day, Dodge Brothers are "losing business" by their policy of keeping production within the bounds of continuous betterment. In that sense they have doubtless suf fered a great loss in the past and will endure a great loss in the future. But over against this great loss is an infinitely greater gain. The people of the United States have implicit faith in the integrity of Dodge Brothers manufacturing methods. One hqndred thousand owners or rather, one hundred thousand families arc practically of one mind concerning the car and the men who make it. This business and its product are blessed with a friendship probably with out parallel in the history of American manufacturing. Fresh from the factory, or sold at second-hand, from one end of the nation to the other, the car has special value and a special reputation, because of the name it bears. Because of the name it bears, you may be sure that the principle behind the car will never be changed a hair's breadth. Dodge Brothers have only one idea In the upbuilding of their business. That idea is to build so soundly and so well that the good will which they have won will grow and endure forever. Tfc laeehn meoaaptioa Is natwosBy low. TVs Mr !! Is uansuslljr big. 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