Evening public ledger. (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, August 02, 1916, Night Extra, Page 12, Image 12
T3MBBs'ff!P5Wp!5M?KWfw! i bSbh I M 4 -r (C"f y r -im y i ID EVENING LEDGER-PHIIADELPHIA, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 2, 1916. MORAN'S PITCHING PROBLEM SOLVED TEAM IS IN SPLENDID SHAPE FQRDglVJNQ FINISH PHILLIES' PITCHERS CONTINUE TO DISPLAY WONDERFUL FORM; CHAMPIONS. READY FOR DRIVE Moran's Hurlers Have Rounded Into Form Proper Time and Brooklyn's Five-Game Lead Does Not Look So Large TUB Phllllo? were not able to take both pirnes of yesterday's double header with the Cub and aa a result tho National league champions lost another half game In the pennant race because Brooklyn niraln defeated Cincinnati, while Boston won another pitching: duel from St. Louis; but withal It cannot bo said that yesterday was a day of disappointment to local fans. On tho contrary, It was a day which Increased the confldenco of tho Phllly players, who now feci certain that tho Dodgers will bo overtaken In tho stretch. The reason for tho unusual confidence Is the splendid showing; mado by Georgo Chalmers and Al Domarcc on tho mound. All doubt as to tho ability of Moran's pitchers to stand the paco has been removed. Tho consistently bril liant hurling of Alexander, ItUcy, Demarco, Bender and Chalmers since tho Phillies opened their homo stand proves conclusively that tho pitching staff at lost has rounded Into form. It Is a raro occurrence for Moran to utter anything that sounds llko a prediction, but tho Fltchburg genlu? recontly declared that ho would cease worry lnff If ho could get consistent work out of the pitching staff. Now that tho pltohers have proved that thoy can be depended upon, tho fans can expect n, lato Bcason drive, such as tho champions had last season. It might bo well to recall that the Codgers were within ono gamo of first place when tho Phils started tho 1915 drive In September. They could not stand tho paco and fell far In tho rear. Can they stand It this season? Pilchlntr Is more than half the battle, and It was pitching, coupled with In telligent ball and an occasional long wallop, that won tho pennant last ncason. With Alexander tho Great In better shapo than ever before nt this tlmo of tho season, and four capable hurling nsslstants, tho Phllly players feol confident that thoy will carry tho Dodgers along at such a terrific clip that tho Robins Will crack. It Is going to bo tho hardest fight slnco 1908 when tho homostrotch Is reached, and tho Phll3 must battle against great edds, but If thoy can main tain their present clip they should win, unless Brooklyn plays bettor ball than any championship team In tho National Lcaguo has ohown slnco tho old Cub machlno was at Its zonlth. Two Wonderful Pitching Duels Were Staged ANOTHER, largo crowd saw yesterday's double-header tfjid thoy were treated Xjl to two of tho best pitching- duels of tho season. Only seven runs wcro scored by thp two teams, but threo being earned, whllo 10 lilts represented tho clubbing ability of tho Phils and the Cubs, with tho Cubs outhlttlng tho champions 10 to 6. Four of ..the Chicago hits- wero scratches, whllo half of tho Phllly safeties woro ' Infield hits which wero beaten out. -x Thero was little to chooso botweon Lavonder, Hondrlx, Chalmers and Demaree. i They all pitched well enough to have won under ordinary conditions, but tho breaks woro against Chalmers In the first game and Hendrlx In the second. Tho latter hold tho Phillies to two hits, ono of which was a scratch, but his own poor control and mlserablo fielding gavo tho Phillies thrco runs and a victory In tho opening Inning. Thereafter Hendrlx was Invincible but so was Demarco, excepting for a slight lapse In tho eighth Inning. For six Innings Demarco. retired tho Cubs In order and whon ho retired Zelder on an easy chanco In the sovonth tho fans had visions of a perfect gamo, but Flack spollod tho dream by bouncing a single past Nlohoff. Zimmerman doubled in tho same Inning, but nothing camo of It. as Kelly fanned. Thrco more hits word bunched In tho eighth for two rune, but Demaro.i pulled himself to ucther In tho ninth, retiring tho sldo In order. In seven of tho nlno Innings tho Cubs wont out in order In tho second game, whilo In tho first game Chalmers permitted only three batsmen to faco him In six of tho nlno Innings. Lavender had six perfect Innings In tho first gome, whllo Hendrlx had four In tho second. Altogether It was tho finest exhibition of pitching of tho scaeon. The Phillies demonstrated In tho second game that they still have tho un canny faculty of making runs without hitting whon the threo runs were tallied With tho aid of only one hit, clevor work on the bases and taking advantago of tho Cubs's mlsrlays bringing over the neoded tallies. Chalmers Unlucky To Oppose Lavender JIMMY LAVENDER Is ono of thoso odd Individuals who are either vory, vory good or vory bad. It Is doubtful If there is a moro erratic pitcher In the tame. Tho diminutive spttball artist la very much llko Jimmy Dygort, another undersized moist ball hurl".-. Dygert either shut out his opponents or was driven from iho mound, and Lavender works In very much tho samo manner. Llko Dygert, Lavender seems to lose a. great deal of his "rtuff" when runners aro on j basex and ho cannot take his full swing. Yesterday Lavender had ono of his good days ind tho Phillies did not have a chance to beat him. Ho had great speed, with an excellont break on his fast ball, "whllo his spltter was working well. Ho succeeded In keeping tho bags clear In soven of tho nlno innings and two of tho Phillies' four hits were Infield cratches. All things considered, Latender gave ono of the cleverest exhibitions ehown by a visiting hurler against the Phils this season. "With very few excep tions tho chances offered Lavender's support wero vory easy. Chalmers hod his usual hard luck. It usually is Chalmers's misfortune to be en tho mound when tho opposing pitcher Is at his best and yesterday was no exception. Five hits were all that tho Bruins could get off Chalmers's pitching and threo of these were scratches. Only one of the Cubs's runs was earned, that being mado by Helno Zimmerman on a long smash Into tho center field bleachers. The other run was duo to an error of judgment, slow fielding by Good and a. fumble by Bancroft, Chalmers pitched well enough to have won nlno games out of ten and It was unfortunate that ho was plttod against Lavender. It was Chalmers's second brilliant exhibition within a week, which Indicates that he Is back In his 1915 form. "When In shapo thero are few bettor pltchora than Chalmers and as ho can stand plenty of work, Moran's pitching staff shapes up well for tho final drive. Remarkable Slugging Games In Northwestern League THE Vancouver and Butto teams played two remarkable games on July 19 and 20. On July 19 Vancouver defeated Butte 16 to 12. the former making 21 hits, while the latter got 16. Many extra base hits were Included in tho total. Tho following day Vancouver made a record that has not been approached In years when it made 31 hits and 27 runs in eight innings off Pitchers Melkel and O'Laughlln. In this game Butte made 9 runs and 16 hits. In tho two games the teams made a total of 84 hits and 64 runs, Vancouver contributing 62 hits and 43 runs. Calvo, tho youthful Cuban, who was with Washington two years ago, made 11 hits In tho two gomes, including four doubles, a triple and a home run, whlla Brlnker, a Phllly recruit, made six hits cut of six time3 at bat in the game of July 20. Five of tho safeties were singles. Frank Schulte, who was traded to the Pirates on Saturday, was the last of the famous Cub machine which met the White Sox in 1306 so far as continuous service is concerned. Tinker and Brown also wero members of this team, but they spent two years in Cincinnati and with the Feds. Archer did not Join the Cubs until 1909 and therefore was not a member of the original team constructed by Frank Selee and willed to Chance. This may decide many arguments. After watching plays at second base on attempted steals, one cannot help but feel that the umpires give incorrect decisions moro than half the time. In the first place the baseman seldom tags the runner with the baU and in the second be invariably stands directly over the bag waiting for the runner to slide into ttw balL Half of the time tho runner is tagged aa high as the knees, which means that his feet must have struck the bag before he was tagged, but so long as tho ball arrives ahead of the runner the umpires continue to call the men out. Sherwood Magee had a field day in Boston yesterday. The former Phllly star made three hits out of three times at bat, and also made two sensational one kanded catches of Jong drives, Jt either drive had gone safe the Cardinals would have won In the regulation number of innings. As it happened they aaved tho cams and StaUings'u team ncored the only run, of the contest in the eleventh Inning. While tha Bt. Louis Browns were winning their twelfth straight victory in tho American League Davenport Was setting an individual record. Within the last threa days tha hurler has pitched three full games and has dona relief work la another. KELLY THE MAN FROM DOWNTOWN I " r " " &z& OF A THIMG CIUIL kJ (ao 0(0 CST I XSUSZrS?' .ZL Jrz: "ZZ2 I EIGHT Vf jook oup -,4- tj, -y V VvifA nenr 1 I STRUCK" IT RICH - GOT CLOCK-LOOK Hj6c-H6'J at To Wr J 1 2rA ."e"C I IkJ SOME: K-iUDA LPiND S HP MM A3 w- Y ff roa ' I SCHEME- EOOl WORTDVKE TfvMrfiMS'S 11 B0IL , I N f . ' I VJEMT BUV3S - HE rtLWAf-S jAifitJa 'V'lJJ''-sr ) I UAS A LITTLE. OFF T"" X y&eZ&sK. S "- fates' iCN-n y r $flPiM J C. ',) tiYKMmrS-n zAffA I X'A I XSRJ'ul.CKi!8KTI "cvav'ni v vVWiyH vlwlllfl XL 1 i- 'SSmri TWENTY-ONE PLAYER LIMIT SURE WOULD HAVE PROVED DISASTROUS FOR YANKEES Donovan Started Season With Twenty-five Men; But at Most Critical Time Was Forced to Use Pitchers in Outfield "JOE" ARMSTRONG THE REAL HERO IN LQNGW00D TENNIS Brooke Edwards Another Kind of a Hero "Some where in France JOHNSTON DROPS A SET Joseph J. Armstrong; ilcsplto his defeat by National Champion "William JohnBton In the final yesterday, was the real haro of the annual Longwood tennis classic. Arm strong chopped his way to the final through tho hardest half of the draw, leaving be hind, mangled and bleeding. Claronco James Grlllln. conqueror of R. Norrls Will lams, 2d ! "Itchy" Kumagac, tho Japaneso linader, and several others Armstrong, who copped tho I'cnn State tltlt from Wallace Johnion a year ago In a bitter battle, has shown more this year In tho way of Improvement than at any othor tlms since hlo arrival In these parts from tho wilds of Minnesota. This Is ro, oven In view of the fact that ho already has lost to Tlldcn, Church and Wallace Johnson. Thrice Beaten Tildcn's victory over Armstrong was In the Pcnn State tilt. Church's In the chal lenge round at Wilmington and JohnBon's In the Merlon-Cynwyd lutcrclub League match. These threo defeats will bo some what offset whon tho National Ranking Committee gets In Its "rank" work by his wonderful performance In the Longwood event Taking a set from tho national champion counts tremendously. It has been said that Johnson let down In the third set of yesterday's final, but this Baying cannot carry weight simply because it cannot be proved. Certainly Armstrong earned It. After winning tha first two sots at 0-0, 6-3, it was freely predicted that Johnston would wade right through his doughty opponent and clean up In straight Bets. But Armstrong flashed some of the bril liancy that proved too much for Griffin and Kumagae, and took the third set at 0-2. This was satisfaction enough for ono day, and Johnston's powerful forehand drive and Judicious use of tho much-condemned mid-court position prevailed In the fourth set at 6-1. Brooke Edwards Starring Brooke ndwards. the Philadelphia tennis player, who has been commended for bravery whllo attending to the wounded "somewhere In France," has a host of friends among local tennli plavers. Ed wards and his brother "Ted" formed the Merlon Cricket Club's second doubles team In the Interclub League last year. Last year Ed v. a r da played In virtually every Important tournament In this sec tion At Wilmington, defeated In the first round, ho stuck It out and eventually won the consolation Blnglea event, defeating C. N. Beard, of Cynwyd. In the final In which one set went to 23 games. In the Phila delphia mixed doubles at Manhelm In the fall Kdwards and Miss Edith Runk, who now Is Mrs. Liggett, went through the field to the final, but failed to capture the title. Before leaving for the war lone early last winter Edwards Informed his friends that he would ba back for the mixed dou bles at Manhelm In September. SCRAPS ABOUT SCRAPPERS By LOUIS n. JAFFE It nanoened about thre rearn nro. Willie Oruer. of iirookhn, and now living In Cnmun. fays he frave Jack Kantrow nn nrtlellc Incirnr thtn In (In semifinal to a 1'al Moore- our ,f llrown mat at l'nr Kockanay. Srelns by tlin paDcrs tliat Kuntron wanta a llcht. Urnor wrltcn tht If Jarlt lias fornotten tholr match of threo years (iro ho Is rcudy to accommodate him with another. Freddl Kelly, one of the fw boie-ra n man RKer as well, eeta back In ring action after a lay-oft of m-xeral months, on Tues'lty night at tho Itynn Club. Kcl hooks up with a touch i.ronosUlon In meetlnc Eddlo ltlnckle. tha new knockout sensation from Cray's Ferry. Kelly manages Henry Jllncklo, who. m Fred a opinion, Is tho most promising llghtwcleht prospect hera. Three families of boxers will tn In evMenca hero this a ksnn, vli , Jllnckle (Irish). Mooro (Oerrminl and Nelson (Italian). Stanley, Eddie and Wally, are in, tho Hlnckle bunch: Tal. Wil lie lleddy, Kranklo and Al am Moore mliers, and the Nelsoni aro Al Wally and Young. No mora bouts for Thick Fleming until after ras become a llenedlct. The Gray's I'errylto take unto hlmaelf a llfo manoaer the latter no will take unto hlmaelf n llfo manorrt part of the month and then ho will nreparn for a busy campaign. A return set-to with Johnny DunJeo Is uhnt nuckto wunts Jack Dillon, will get 111 leht It wise to take u rest. lhhn Kleld. Brooklyn will be the sctnii it Dillon's Day. After 1 Rtnrfr.l npnln nn T.nKi. s muss with Battllns; Levlniky tha taKe h : rest. 1.1)1 i, i.f Tim, next bout and it Is probablo that Jim Coffey Will DO ,119 WB-U WS. dabbed tho "Black. Mcrarland" nrrrn. and by Now York critics, la tralnlnc eontemslattnir a trip to Ootham now that mixed scraps ara being staged thrc. The last time Coleman boxed he suffered a frnctuted rib. Jackie Clarko did It. Itoxers who aro tardy In their tralnlnx always get a nlco laclnr. This was proyed last night when Danny Murphy entered the ring agalnrt Abo Kabakoft and was handed a torrlflo laclnr at the Kyan Cluh Murph was tit for a fat man's race Instead of a boxing match. No word ha been heard from cither Tom Jones or Jess Wlllard for several months. Tho cir cus must be paying good money to the heavy weight champion, hence both no doubt aro con tented without any press notices. Labor Day will make ring history. Only one championship contest will bo held, that between Fred Welsh and Charley White at Denver, never- ih'less several other sttr scraps will tako place, 'rank Moran vs. Carl Morris at Tulsa Is one. Lou EaUey will bo back at Norrlatewn matchmaker of tho raiace Theater this year. i lllcen-ruunu uuuio unain win ud siageu. Joe Atenodo boxes In Now Tork tonight. He will bo opposed to laddie Clifford In a 10-rounder, Dallas Tennis Players Qualify DALLAS. Tox.. Aug. 2. CVorce Wrls.it and Dradley Hotruc. both of Dallia, by defeating Arthur Bcellgeon. of San Antonio, and Georsa V. I'eak. Jr , of Dallas. U J t,-3. O-O. in tho doubles finals of the southwest district tennis tnttrnament which ended hero vesterd.iv. win enter tho national tennis matches at Chicago. . , tti-v . - i .11, : li. ' , August u ..fc, hookey, High and Maeeo, the three rocuiars Th Mnlnr T.pnirucr's Daughter Thev were seated in the parlor where the gaa tea ourninr; tow ... He storied warming up upon the ) no looked at her and tchlspered, "offline, jou Hmow love vou to You've made more Mis with me than Tyrus Cobb', Tour curves look more than good to me, vour speed U just my style" But here he stopped and sadly bowed hit head! . The decision was against Mm, he was out about a mile, When unto Mm these cruel words she said; OBOIIUB. "I am the only daughter of a major league prtenom, While you ara Juf oti unknown busner blokej My Old Man bats MO almost every season, Tom, ' While they tell me that your Mttlng Is a joke'. Borne day when you are drafted or you have a batting eye I may listen to the words you have to But until 'some Ivory soout beats the bush and digs you out, There Is nothing doing here or you to day." The years went by and Tom Improved, his work began to shine; His batting and his fielding were im mense; His slugging jumped from ,083 around ,H9, While day by day he splintered up some fence; But in the meanwhile name's Old Man be gan to lose his eye, They canned Mm when his salary whip went dead; Bo Tom pained her up for good, and now she wonders why Them bitter words unto Mm once she sai'l CHORVB. "I am the only daughter of a major league phonom." etc The Player Limit The National League has a 21-playcr limit working-. It Is argued that 21 men should bo moro than sufllclent to last out a Beason that carrying; 'any more Is pure waste. Dut take the case of the Tanks. They started with 25 men. No club In tho coun try was better prepared In the way of sec ondary stronBth. They had eight or nine pitchers, three extra flcldcro and threo extra outfloldero. Yet at tho most critical point of the race Donovan was forced to play In flcldcrs and pitchers In tho outfield and to Lend out a hurry call for help. In the outfield nlono ho had Malsel, Qll- By GRANTLAND RICE Work. and tho first reserve, all badly hurt, Ing only si men, Donovan would ha started with a rush toward tho bottom iT" oral weeks ago. Still, Wo Were Only Six Shy Sir Will you permit an oldtlme Clncln. natl fan to point out that your list of Rd managers slnco 187G Is Incomplete? You left out Charloy Snyder, Will White, the first spectacled pitcher! Cnl MoVey, John ' E. Clapp, Gus Schmclz and Frank Dancroft. who held tho reins for several weeks In 19jt ' between the itolng of Bid McPhee and thi ' advent of Joo Kellcy. a. b. ' (Noto Our list Included only those man.' ' aging- the Kcds whllo Cincinnati was In thi ' national wague, xno ciud was expslIM r frnm tho leacnio In 18S0 and remnln.,1 -l i k for 10 years ) Mention of Qus fichmolz recalls tha t''. that ho was tho only full-bearded manasw In big lcaguo history. No one el so hul ever Dcen gains enougn to iaxo any such : CllllIlCO, A Hunch for Matty Sir Hero Is a hunch that ml&hl wi, In Matty's favor. The last famous aiont 'a to leave and manage the Reds was Buck vf jwiiis. uugk wud nunosi nn great a Nctr York Idol as Matty was. Ho took chai-r. of tho Reds In 189E, rind gavo thorn the A ucsr. run iney over nave Known. Ho cara near winning a pennant ono year, and. finished well up In tha first division thrte years In a row. It may bo that Mattr m go Just a trifle beyond Ewing's record anO unauy give itcaianu a. nag. rAN. i Giving Credit Sir The Ited Sox have n fine pitching 111 staff, as you remarked, when right. Butfl nicy naven i Dcon rigni mo greater part of 8 tho year, so plcnso give credit to Bill Car-? rigan ror mo wonuerrui way no has handled 4 the club, holding his men together wltatt n light hand and hustling them along- llkad the lino rclnsman ho Is. Carrlgan Is kind, neuriuu, imeiii&uui, uiuuum itnu game; alSOH underrated. Why not give him his Juat duefl FOURTEEN NAUGHT SEVEN. Famous Approachers Chick Evans. Oswald IClrkby. Jorry Travors. Walter Hagen. Sharks. ' Bill Collectors. SUIT; To $ Order .8 Reduced from J30, $23 and $20 Sea Our 7 Big Windows PETER MORAN & CO. Merchant Tailors S. E. COB. NINTH AND ARCH STfl. NECKWEAR REDUCTIONS MARSHALL&BUSH.mc. A Shop for Gentlemen 113 S. THIRTEENTH ST. 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HE SAID To AAE 'J I DCTM. . -. ' -- ptivrvi ztMLUKCr TMfc NfiT THING THE PITCHER THROWS ISA BALI,. I SAOS'AU.mffl ys.rVJf5) H E CURVED THE BALLdJEN .., L .. ---I THE PLATC FORAffWIKE: I5AJ I WN.'" WCtILL SAIVSNO. (Vq! I SAW YOUR CRAZY.1 HE SAIPYES HEPIP- A HORSE-HIDE. ROUNJX ISPtieWCfKLXORK' CORED BAtC WTH STITCHES ON tTl TttfcM I RKkhTUP.THEN AU.THE THINCr.SQ 5Ap;'WHAT& IIIJO" .1INi.,jma HEN I SAWVmrHkmih: "YoLARP 'jTHE? 0 LOOKED Dow N (N FfMlfflhEN i0tAE ONf Yet , m Bur c couldnt see a. htTinZB SO I (tOT UP AND STftE-. T' t "m. - - ltHtW, I STRETCHED MV ONE iMITME WiYH A V5L- FIT I NTO ANOTHFB. IV1 HE STRETCHED HIS Pv"l- sMLtr- aaV HM HE waStoWtTO STR ictl HIS OTHER. FOOi ONTO MY OTf. StUU' BUT I .C-rpFryucn AY 5filS6re- HE SAID, rWeW WJATAHS 40 Af Aforr a Varp long- itf HE SAtp'THE PITCHER- -LOW rrbLRNAr AND I LECrS To thf: PX.IT. m w-HKiKjfMitJfh i'U. BET YO U IT AWT! BVST THREWABALuT, CrOT A YEU.OW 5TREftH WI&& 0 i rAM-T c-r&c-rtM O TKFlT:RyiTCHEP. OW(V in front! 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