Evening public ledger. (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, February 18, 1916, Night Extra, Page 14, Image 14

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EVENING LEDGER PHILADELPHIA FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 1916
IWHITE SOX MANAGER BELIEVES EDDIE COLLINS IS BETTER BALL PLAYER THAN TY COBB
ROWLAND SAYS HE WOULD
NOT TRADE EDDIE COLLINS
FOR WONDERFUL TY COBB
: Former Mackman Greatest Player in Game,
Despite Fact That Georgian Has Best
Record, Opinion of Sox Manager
t ! nAnIiY ,ast season rumors drifted eastward that MnnoBor Claronco ltowlnntl,
XJ of the White Sox, and Eddlo Collins, tho peerless second baseman, wcro not
. t,on very good terms. There Is nothing about a report of this sort wlion n team
"f picked for tho pennant starts to skid, but In this case nothing could bo furthor
( irora mo irum. iiowiancl ana Collins aro great friends both on nnd off the
t Held, and before a group of magnates, nlayors nnd scribes nt tho Amorlcan
J Lcaguo meeting yesterday nowland declared that tho former Mackman was tho
greaiesi Dan piayer no nau over scon.
Tho Whlto So leader added that ho would not trade Collins for Ty Cobb,
placing tho former nbovo tho "Georgia Peach," dcsplto tho better averages In
most departments mado by Cobb each season. In paying Collins thin compli
ment Rowland says ho docs not underestimate tho ability of Cobb, but that ho
knows it Is Impossible for a player to bo of greater valuo than his second
baseman.
Scribes pointed out the fact that Detroit seldom wins when tho wondorful
Cobb Is out of tho game nnd that Ty Is Individually responsible for a largo per
centage of tho Tiger victories, but Rowland declared that Collins was tho cause
of a larger number of Whlto Sox victories and va3 with a team which did
not win so many.
Cobb, "With Better Record, Is Not as Good as Collins, AccordinR to Rowland
"Ty Cobb may outhlt Collins nnywhero from 20 to RO points a season,
uteal 16 moro bases, lead lMiltc In extra baso hitting nnd runs scored, but vlthnl
ho Is not so good a ball player. Collins 13 the greatest defcnslvo player in the
game. Ko Is not far behind Cobb offensively for team valuo and has a much
bettor Influence on tho team.
"You never know a ball player until you aro on tho samo club with him.
Therefore, I believed Collins was slightly overrated when John McGraw picked
him an the greatest player In tho country, but now I hoartlly agree with tho
Giants' manager. If I wore to bo displaced tomorrow, with Collins my succossor,
my personal opinion oo to his value could not change. There never was a greater
hustler and there- Is no player In tho gamo who knows moro about It.
"Collins disposition, on and off tho field, In ono of his greatest assota. Ho
Is always smoothing things over, encouraging tho boys whero a little sarcastic
comment from a star would stir up discord, and la the moat popular member
of my team. I know Cobb Is a marvel and do not underestimate his ability,
but I -would not trado Eddlo Collins for tho Georgian under any condition.
The Kevetono rectlon weekly matches
wero marked by many upsets. Ldoimrcl iirnt
Ilooslern two name, nnd Acmes, by nlnnlns
three from Hangers, the tnll-cml tenm, lie t
)lnoitern for Mrst pHcr. IMouanl luinu up
,,. MkAH'a litnt. alnfrlA frrtmn tfltn nmr
ti02 In their last ranie. Tho Individual scores
in ihia rittirA fmt were nn follow.:. Me-
t'orkle. 21i(l: Illuctt. 17U; Storck, KOI. Sterling,
217, nnd Wanner, 111
tllMt tnttnA Wllmnt n Klrnnef nnnnnnnl
The section A lenders, after vHnnfiifr tho first
Managers Want Lumber Yard in Exchange for Toothpick
"Just how this Jackson-MalseUtrnde talk started I do not know. It probably
started? while I was on my way East, becauso I know nothing about It until
today. Not only Is there no truth In tho report, but I don't think It Is right for
any ono to start such a rumor, particularly whero thero Is no ground for It.
"Trouble Is often stirred up In ball teams becauso of theso trade talks, and
it makes bad feeling between managers. No doubt tho Yankoes would like to
havo Jackson. With that right field bleacher bo close, ho would probably
break a few home-run records, and, playing on the samo team with Baker In
a field with a short right field, opposing pitchers would havo many unpleasant
afternoons.
"It Is funny how much a fellow can learn In ono Heason in tho malor lenmie.
li t' In my Bhort Btay ncro havo ouna that fellow-managers and magnates nro
7 ll ? alwaVS Willlnor tn mnlro n trnflo Vint nton linvn i.tlnn4 wn it .1 . ...
.. .....w . ..., w ,.uW ...v.u itwuvcn uiuk uu mey ever warn is
a lumber yard for a toothpick. Tho Sox look good enough to me. I did hopo to
get Baker, but I think placing Terry, my recruit from Los Angeles, at short
f ond shifting Weaver to third will solve my Infield problem. You can bet tho
Sox will bo at tho top, or closo to it, if wo get our share of tho breaks."
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f- Davies' Retirement a Blow to Mack
X Manager Mack's statement In tho Evenino Ledger yesterday that ho was
f In tho field for a player, but that he reallv did not noeri nnn wem r.inn n ....?..
,j Jar when a report was received from Boston that Lloyd Davlcs, tho brilliant
a t young outfielder, had decided to retire from tho game. Davlcs had but few
i opportunities to prove ins worth last year, illness keeping him on the bench
, most of tho season, but ho was regarded as a certainty In tho outfield this year.
85 ' Davies was never really impressed with the Hfo of a ball player and was
31 nlavinir thft ornmn mprnlv tn frpf nnnni.1i mnnA,. a...- ,..i
jj r - -t. o . w o-.. ...w0.. ...vi.v. lu uiuci UUHIUCSS. 110 Was
, voted by veterans as tho most studious young man who ever nl.ivnri win, i,
jj Mackmen and always carried a suitcase full of books on every trip. After tho
uau game uavies could always bo found studying In his room until midnight.
He was one of the cleanest living lads who ever broke Into tho gamo, nnd tho
i Amherst collegian will be badly missed by tho Mackmen.
The purchaso of rick from Jack Dunn was an excellent move on tho part
of Manager Mack. Pick has had plenty of experience and Is capable of play
ing better ball than any third baseman used by the Athletics last season. Pick
may or may not dovelop into a star, but ho will at least fill tho bill until Mack
has developed his youngsters.
Cleveland In the Limelight at Meeting
The final baseball meeting of tho season was largely a Cleveland nffalr.
Between announcing tho name of the head of tho syndicate which has pur
chased Charles Somers' interests and rumors of trades involving the Indians It
was mainly a Cleveland day. J. C. Dunn, ono of the largest contractors in tho
West, will, In all probability, bo named aa president, and Ban Johnson insists
that he will be ono of the most popular magnates In tho game within a short
time.
Dunn Is entering baseball for the pleasure he can derive from It. Ho
has too much money and. too mnny business Interests at the present tlmo to
enter tho game for monetary purposes. He Is not a Clevelander, but de
clares he will give the sixth city a winner at any cost. One of the first moves
he mado was to attempt to secure Frank Baker, but Johnson Informed him that
the deal between Mack and Now York had gone too far to be cancelled.
Johnson then assured Dunn that Cleveland could have Baker if the deal
eventually fell through. When Baker went to tho Highlanders, Dunn got In
touch with Johnson and told him to buy him somo ball playera at any cost.
Yesterday Johnson dickered with Manager Griffith, of Washington, for tho
veteran "Chick" Gandll and Joe Boehllng, and It Is likely both will be seen
in Cleveland uniforms next season along with High, of tho Yankees. Boeh
llng will be a great help to the Indians who need pitchers badly, but it is
doubtful If Gandll ond High will be of much use.'
They Are Always "Helping" New Magnates
To prove that they were willing to "help" the new Cleveland owners, Just
(as, tho American Leaguo "aided" them last year, Captain Huston and Colonel
iiuppert, owners or tno xannees, agreed to tune nay chapman, one of the
SfcJiest shortstops In the country, off their hands. They were willing to pay $25,
t MO for Chapman's rolease, but Ban Johnson would not stand for this "high
way robbery" of tho New York owners.
Huston and Ruppert are determined to have the pennant, and, If money
can buy It, New York will fly Its first American League championship flag.
The Yankees took too strong now to allow a player of Chapman's calibre to
bo banded to them, even though the price offered was enormous. From an
American League standplnt, Chapman Is worth more In Cleveland than in
New York, and Johnson realized It.
For once it looks aa If Dave Fultz, president of the Players' Fraternity
bad made a serious mistake in making such a fus3 about the contract offered
Jimmy Johnston, the Federal Leaguer who is holding out on Brooklyn. As a
rule Fultz uses excellent Judgment, this being one of the main reasons why the
fraternity is growing bo rapidly, but Johnston deserves no sympathy and will
not get It, if the National Commission Is forced to demand a show-down.
Clark Griffith tried to Induce Ban Johnson to part with the veteran Terry
Turner, of Cleveland, but failed. Griffith told Johnson he only wanted Turner
for one season as a player, but would give him a position as coach after next
season, which would prolong Turner's career In baseball. Johnson wants Turner
tn Cleveland for the same purpose.
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NEWS OF THE BOWLING ALLEYS
ROtrm by 70 pln, fell 2s nin .1,. .
onponpnf'e count fn tho t7conS ,, thtr
tho ortil inmo with n nsa rcor? in wiii.h?P Wli
Tom (lijmon contlnuo.l hl iiiS, V,"1 ?
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WORLD'S SERIES ARE PROOF
OF BASEBALL CLEANLINESS
Quick Decisions in Blue Ribbon Events Cost
Connie Mack More Than $200,000 1912
Tilts Only Ones to Go Seven Games
By GRANTLAND RICE
Thoughts on a Cold Morning
The whisker is a slomlcr thing,
Much thinner than a fleck of soap;
Yet when the doggone razor's dull,
It's thicker than a two-inch rope.
Speaking of Money
At tho National League banquet Dudley
Field Malono mado tho statement that In
baseball honesty ruled the field of play;
that proof of tills could bo found In tho
last world series, where tho championship
was closed out In flvo games and where
over $100,000 was turned back to ticket
holders. To clinch thli point, had It been neces
sary, Mr. Jfalono might havo Bono even
further.
In but ono series 1012 has tho cham
pionship Bono to the seven-game limit.
In the other flvo years, whcio a total
of 35 games might havo been played had
hlppodromlng been In order, only 2B games
have been used to dcclilo tho various win
ners In these flvo series tho champion
ship has been decided In an average of flvo
games, one moro than tho lowest posslblo
limit.
In tho ten unplayed games over $600,000
has been turned back to tho public.
A sport that In flvo or sk years turns
back over $DOO,000 to Its supporters that
it might havo held by manipulation or
trickery doesn't need any defense aBalnst
tho charBo of crookedness. Six hundred
thousand dollars speaks louder than tho
babblo which led to tho dismantlement of
Babel.
Mack's Luck
V.'i.lch reminds us again of tho Un
kempt Fato that has pursued Connie
Mack.
Ho not only had the distinction of losing
money on a club that won four pennants
In five year. That Is something of a Jolt
Itself.
Hut Connie's World Series fortuno has
been even harder. The club owners hard
ly begin to share In a World Series until
four games have been played. Connie nil
told has been In Uvo championship series.
And In nil this tlmo ho has split the big
pot In but live games.
The Giants beat him 4 to 1 In 100C; he
beat the Cubs 4 to 1 tn 1910; the Giants, 4
to 1, In 1911; the Giants again, 4 to 1, In
1913; and the Braves beat him 4 straight
in 1914.
Quick decisions through these Ave
series cost Mack well over $200,000.
When thoy begin to break ngalnst you
at various times an avalancho Is as a
feather In comparison.
Connie, having emerged with his scalp,
can probably ligure that he Is lucky.
At the rate things are going the only
chance to remain an amateur In this
country In the near future will be to
carry an Income of $25,000 a year.
If the man who sells golf supplies Is a
professional, and the man who sells ten
nis supplies Is a professional tennis
piayer, then tho man who sells plows or
onion seed Is a profcslonal farmer.
Even Harder Than That
On tho same basis any one who sells
baseballs, bats or gloves or masks over
the counter may be ruled as a professional
ballplayer.
But soma one la going to have a hard
time making an old-fashioned scout, who
Is looking for talent, believe It.
To a Point of Order
Here Is one for the Itules Committee
to tackle. The Hon. William Klem, of
Lakewood, and the National League de-
jSALE
"Wells Hats Wear Well"
1101-MarketSt.-1317
slro to know whether or not ho Is an
amateur golfer.
Hero nrc the facts; Mr. Idem Is a
big league umpire and therein draws down
something over $5000 a year for his work.
But ho Isn't a professional ballplayer
or n professional player of nny sort.
A No Mr Klem Is content to get around
a golf cnurso In 9!) strokes without re
marking that ho badly off his gamo.
Sport?
But, you may argue, Mr. Klem makes
his living out of sport. Why Isn't ho a
pinfcsslonal?
Sport? Umpiring? Did you ever um
pire in tho National League?
Of Cour.se, of Course
Of course, 1C Moran should happen to
knock out Wlllnrd, or should outpoint
the champion, Tom Jones and the rest of
the Wlllnrd camp will havo nothing to
say about the grip having pulled Jess
down, and having rendered him In poor
shape tor service.
You understand this, of course.
GOLF COURT IS
INSTALLED ON
ADELPHIA ROOF
300 Feet Above Street, In
door Sport Nears Its
"Place in Sun"
Imagine
Your
Amazement
Upon Entering Our Store
and Seeing Thousands of
Suits and Overcoats Abso-
lute $22.50, $20, $18
and $15 values
at the
One Flat
i"
Jrrice o
$6.66!
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AFFORDS GOOD PRACTICE
"Hi TEXNIS LIST FOR
INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS
Titlo Holders to Compete in Philadel
phia Tournament
Thero are nlready a lnrge number of
entries In the various contest of tho first
annual Indoor tennis championship tour
nament of Philadelphia and district,
which will be staged nt tho Sportsmen's
Show In the First Ileqlmcnt Armory, be
ginning Saturday, February 23, and con
tinuing through tho following week. There
will bo singles and doubles for men,
women nnd Juniors and as theso events
havo tho sanction of tho ofllclal local
association, they will be tho first Indoor
championships ever decided In Philadel
phia. Only members of clubs ntllllated
with tho Philadelphia and District Lawn
Tennis Association uro eligible to com
pete. Among tho prominent entries nro Willis
Davis, present California State champion;
Wallnco Johnson, former Pennsylvania
Stato champion, and with A. D. Thayer,
who Is also entered, present Pennsylvania
Stato doubles champion; W. T. Tlldon,
2d, present Philadelphia champion and
also holder of tho Western Now Jersey
and Schuylkill Valley championship;
Stanley Pearson, national squash rac
quets champion and runner-up In the
1915 Philadelphia championship and now
Joint holder with I... C. Wistar of the
Philadelphia and district double cham
pionship; P. S. Osborne, Trlstate cham
pion; Joseph H. How land and V. M.
IMwards, among the most promising of
the younger players; Paul W Gibbons,
president of tho Philadelphia and District
I T. A.
Among the entries tn tho ladles' tourna
ment aro nearly all of tho members of tho
Indoor Tennis Club, Including Miss Clara
Chuse, Mrs. Clement Walnn right, Miss
Phyllis J. Walsh, Mrs. 11. H. Smith. Mrs.
Gilbert Harvey. Mrs. J. Saunders Taylor,
Delaware Stato champion, is entered and
also '.Miss Uleanor Carpenter, of Merlon;
Mrs. A. D. Smoker, Beltleld and Mrs.
Aubrey Whltelaw of New York.
Columbia Dattery Men Out
NUW YOIIK. Feb. 18. Thirteen pitchers and
cdtchera teported to Andrew J. Coakley,
coach of the Columbia baseball team, anil the
first battery practice ot the J ear wan held
In tho UnUeralty Hall cage yesterday.
Coakley, himself, waa In uniform.
BAYUK
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SOLD FROM THE
Sanitary Humidor
11 V ALL qOQP DKALE113
A golf court 300 fcot abovo street level,
In tho roof garden of tho Adclphta Hotel,
Is the most recent addition to tho numer
ous Indoor courts and links tn Philadel
phia. Tho court was opened recently on
tho 21st floor of tho hotel, nnd enjoys
tho unlquo distinction of being tho one
place In the United Stnes where tho golfer
can enjoy his gamo on top of a sky
scraper. Not until next winter wilt Manager
Pro van establish a regular Indoor links
on tho roof of the tall hotel, and In the
meantime tho present court Is consid
ered as a stepping stone to largo Indoor
courts. In the Adelphta court tho cus
tomary driving tee and bull's-eye target
afford tho novico a handy placo to prac
tice and the veteran a chance to lmprovo
his game.
The court measures 25 by BO feet and is
tho largest in Philadelphia, If not tho
cntlro country. It Is laid out and man
aged In tho snmo way as tho courts In
tho various department stores and at the
Overbrook Country Club. The Instructor
In charge Is Professor Georgo Carruthers,
of tho North Hill Country Club. Car
ruthers Is a Scot and, until flvo years
ngo, when he came to this country, had
played tho gamo In the vicinity of Edin
burgh since the tlmo when ho was first
ablo to wield a club.
Harry Lauder, the Highland comedian,
now playing In this city, practiced nearly
an hour on the Adelphla court yesterday.
Ho remarked that It was just his style of
play, as It "didn't require paying a
caddy, there wns no chasing around the
landscape and no balls to buy and then
loso Immediately after."
Alterations
Charged For
at Actual
Cost of Tailo,
Time
r's
Evening Ledger Five Loses
Tho Evening Telegraph basketball team de
feated the Uvenlng l-odccr quintet by tho
score of 117 to 14 In tho first of a three-game
scries played tn tho West llranch y. JI, c, A.
Ejmnaslum last night.
Syracuse Buy's Harry Fritz
CHICAGO. Feb. IS. Inflelder Harry Fritz
has been sold to the Syracuse Club, ot the New
York Stato League, by the Chicago Na
tionals. Manager Tinker booked an exhibition
game with Syracuse for June 11.
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Thousands of Suits and Overcoats
From over 40 Famous Makers
All
$6.66
Worth
$15 to
$22.50
GOTHIC
"Arrow
Collar
Fits the knot of a four-in- hand
or bow perfectly. 2 far 25c
duett, Peabody &Co.. Inc., Makers
A SENSATIONAL SHOW
National A. C. National A. C.
TOMOKIIOW NIGHT TOMOHHOW NIGHT
Hallor Cturmanskt vs. Oimrtrrmuater Smith
JOHNNV NKI.KON i. JEAN t'ONhTANCK
H11D1K WALI.ACKTH. FltAMUE McMANUS
bOLLY llUIINS vs. Ll)l)Ii; WACiONIl
Jack Brazzo vs. Joe Azvedo
Olirmnin A A HroaU & llalnbrldie
MONIIAY NIGHT 8.30
STANLEY KKTC1IKL ts. LKFTV TYLBH
CIIAHI.KH MKIIIVAY . IIAHHY WAGNKIt
JOHNNY JIITCIIIK . UUbSIB I.K1VIH
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Adm. S5c, Dal. Ilea, soc. Arena lies. 75c, It,
OUAKER CITY uphin
EDUIK 6KIUEL . SAMMY IICCKEU
TONIGHT 8:30 SHAKl'
Admission 23o and 60o
if
$2.00
Pants
98c
$3.00
Pants
$1.48
Candidly,
you do not come
for your share of
these tremendous val
ues, no one is to blame but
yourself. If you admire fine
clothing", and if you are
familiar with the superb style
and quality of the most famous
nationally advertised brands of
suits and overcoats, come here
now and see them by the thous
andsall at 6.66. Over 40 of
America's leading manufac
turers of clothing present to
you through this unique clearing
house their salesmen's samples, odd
lots and broken sizes. Not a garment
ever retailed at less than $15 many
at $1, Zi) and $22.50. But what
ever the former prices, this sale
knows but one price $6.66.
imagine nandmg us $7 ior a
$22.5U garment and getting
d4c back in change.
Uome by all means.
$4.00
Pant
$2.48
$5.00
Pants
$2.98
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