seeing the lining membrane.—
The stomach being So offensive as
Dr, Rand testified It was, it did not
indicate the presence of any antiseptic or
preservative agency. Gangrene moans
the death of a living part of the body and
Incipient putrefaction. You have the
end of your finger partially out off, and
union does not take place, change
takes place in its color, becomes dark,
soft, and finally falls of, we say that was
gangrenous. So of a gunshot wound
a portion of the body where bullet entered
becomes soft and la removed by sloubiug.
It is quite a common 11 consequence of
disease when inflammatory acllop is
pushed to Us final 'diseased termination
and when it. involves a vital organ Is
necessarily fatal. The stomach .is a vital
organ. There is a variety of color about
ganferene—.green, blue, black—and the
organ effected by it somewhat an offen
sive odor. Q.—ln making post mortem
for medico-legal purposes, when cer-
tain symptoms have been treated by at
' tending physicians, should not, special
attention be paid by those making exam*'
Inatlbu-to-thbseparls? —Ceriai niy
—ho would fipd it . and chiefly look ah
chose organs.be suspected to be the seat
of the dlaeaseXThe symptoms of poison
from arsenic are-numerous and not by
any means uniform. Sometimes, and I
think in the majority of cases, they are
those of an irritant to stomach and bow
els; again those of a nervous nature; and
again those of a narcotic,such as opium or
beiladona. I agree with Prof. Sogers in
relation to symptoms of arsenical poison
ing, There is an addition I would make
to symptoms enumerated by him, viz:
a'difficulty of urination, and sometimes
an arrestof thisfunctlon. Occasionally an
eruption of vesicular character, not a very
frequent symptom. Somellmesalso par
alysis—generally result of long continued
poisoning, and even lock jaw, when there
have been frequent spasms. Tbesesymp
toms are not exclusively due to arsenic.
I have not been able to discover a single
symptom, nor any group of symptoms,
as exclusively characteristic of arsenical
poisoning. Nearly ail the irritant poisons
would be accompanied by similar symp
toms—corrosive sublimate, tartar emetic,
sulphate of copper, caustic alkalis, salt
petre, oxallcacld,ohlorideol Barium; veg
etables croton oil, petroleum, colohicum,
and others; and among the animal series
oantharldes.. Home of them produce very
similar symptoms to those caused by
arsenic, others are less so. Some produce
bloody stools, con vulsuions, cramps in leg
and so on. Others more decidedly narcotic
symptoms ; but they ail belong to the
same general class of Irritants. They are
so much like the symptoms of natural
disease as to prevent one from deciding
whether they are from poison or from
natural disease. The symptoms of pois
oning by arsenic are by no means uni
form- I don’t think the symptoms of any
of the Irritant peisons are fixed so as to
to decide from the symptoms.
X don’t know of any irritant poison in
which the symptoms are fixed. The
symptoms of inflammation of stomach
and bowels are not Invariably fixed.—
When arsenic is taken into the system,,
it la disposed of in various ways—part of
it may be vomited ; part purged off by
bowels, and the balance absorbed into
the circulation. Absorption is the recep
tion into the biood of the matter contain
ed in the stomach in a soluble form. Ail
metals I presume are absorbed, that ad
mit of being dissolved—anything may be
absorbed that is capable of solution. Ar
. senlc is retained in the system sometimes
for a considerable length of time—by this
I mean fixed in some one or more or
gans of the body—such as liver, heart,
kidneys, spleen, brain, &o. We do not
find the same quantity after death from
the same amount taken before death —
sometimes a comparatively small fatal
dose may leave behind a comparatively
large amount. This differencein amount
found is dependent upon two facts, first,
the esoaps of enme of the poison by vom
iting and purging—and, secondly, by its
repid eiumination from body after it has
been swallowed. Sometimes, too, 2or 3
grains may prove fatal, sometimes an oz.
or two, 1 taken at one dose; the reason of
that is thetfulness of the stomach. As a
role arsenic proves fatal within twenty
four hours. According to high authority,
Prof. Guy, of London, more than one
balfthe fatal cases within twelve hours,
some of them within a shorter time. The
symptoms are not proportionate to the
amount, Q. How far would you as a che
mist rely upon Keinsoh’s test, when the
quantity is very small? A. As far os
Reinsch’s test goes, it is an admirable
test, but I should not rely upon Reinsoh’s
teat exclusively for determining the ques
tion, particularly if this question wan
connected with a medico-legal examina
tion. The smaller quantity oan he un
questionably determined by Reinsch’s
test. I would employ other tests along
with Relnsob’s. Marsh's test along
with Relnach’s. If not enough for all, I
would prefer Marsh’s test. The deter
mining of very small quantities with hut
one test, admits of questioning. To the
chemist himself, if he be a man of expe
rience and ability, there may bo no doubt
of the single test.
J. M. ScounLEß, sworn —Live in New
ville,; am a druggist. Never sold John
£lebl any poison.
Dr. Jno. J. Reese, continued— lf I was
limited to one test, with a small quantity.
I would prefer Marsh’s test, bi cause I can
work with it more accurately. I think
it Is more decided, and gives the absolute
proof, the metal Itself, in the form of
a metallic mirror, and a metallic spot
from which metallic mirror and spot
we may procure other tests. Marsh’s
test enables us to make further tests
than Beinsch’s ; though as a trial test
It is generally customary to employ
Eeinsch’s test. A drop of Fowler’s
solution, falling upon a box such as
that analyzed by Dr. Band, the arsenic
could be detected with the greatest
ease by the process, -followed by Dr.
Band, by a skillful chemist, and even
a much less quantity than a drop. To
satisfy ourselves upon that point, wo
•i - made the experiments detailed by Dr.
Eodgers yesterday, with respectively
the tenth of a drop of Fowler’s solu
tion equivalent to one-twelve hun
dredth of a grain of arsenic; and the
fiftieth of a drop,'equivalent to one
six thousandths of a grain of arsenic.
These small quantities being allowed
to fall upon the lid of a wooden box
such as described. On testing these
portions of the box, by Reinsch’s pro
cess, as performed by Prof. Band, we
procured in both cases the dark deposit
on the copper, which when subjected
to heat in the small test tubes, afforded
white sublimates, which under a very
ordinary microscope, gave us, in the
one instance at least the characteristic
eight-sided crystals—n ot so certainly
In the other instance, because of the
imperfection of light and the Inferiority
of the Instrument. I have no doubt;
• considerably smaller quantity might
j>e presenting a number of]
V **
eight-sided crystals. The excessively
small amount of poisonous substances
which may be detected by am nhtllytical
chemist is almost incredible* 1£ is not
by any means difficult to detect a}
millionth grain of strychnine, if pure;
I have detected even a smaller quan
tity—l have detected less than, a
millionth part of a grain, if pure. A
medico-legal chemical analysis should
be conducted in the most scrupulous
care and in the most exhaustive man .
ner, because of the grave responsibi) i_
tieslnvolved. I have no doubt Dr. Ka' ad,
from his recognized skill and a bility as a
l chemist, thoroughly convinced hif naelf
of the presence of arsenic in the mate
rial which was submitted tobisi analy
sis.. What might be conshlere'd by one
chemislas satisfactory proof, might not
be so regarded by another, on this
point chemists like other men differ.—
Some will arrive at a conclusion more
rapidly than others, .Some see* through
a proposition almost Intuitively, others
by successive slow steps. Jjhould have
requireda-moreexhaastiveanalysisto
satisfy me in a medico-legal investiga
tion for poison than appeals to .have
satisfied my, iriend Frof. Band. I
would have employed some othertests,
my mind being, perhaps, more sluggish
and cautious. I would have employed
all the tests that are considered charac
teristic. First Eeinoh’s test, which
consists in burning the suspected mate
rial in pure muriatic acid and water,
upon strips of copper foil, and subject
ing these strips, when properly cleaned
and dried, to the action of the heat of
it spirit lamp, in a small glass tube.
The arsenic deposited on the copper is
subfivned upon the tube in the form of
eight sided crystals—this is one test—
Secondly, Marsh’s test and Its modifi
cations. This consists of adding the
suspected substance to the materials
for generating hydrogen, in a proper
flask, to which is attached a properly
constructed glass tube, terminating in
an open point. There are three modi
fications of the test, one consists of ap
plying the heat of a spirit lamp to the
horizontal portion of the tube, as the
arsenureted hydrogen gas is passing
along the tube. A bright metallic
ring or deposit is formed a little in ad
vance of the flame. This is pure met
allic arsenic, and can be subjected tostill
further tests—next the jet of gas as it
issues from the tube is set on Are.—
It burns with a peculiar, colored
flame, and of a white porcelain saucer, Is
held over the flame, or rather in the
flame, a brilliant steel colored blackish
deposit is made upon the porcelain. This
also is pure metallic arsenic; and a greot
number of these spots may thus be ob
tained for farther analysis. Third, in
stead of lighting the jet of gases as it
comes out of the tubes, turn the tube
around, so as to look downwards, and
the gas Is made to pass through a solution
of nitrate of silver, common lunar caus
tic; If there be any arsenic present in
this gas, the color of the solution will
change almost immediately, and a black
deposit will form of metallic silverjwhilst
the arsenic will remain in solution in
the form of arsenous acid. All we have
to do now is to filter the substance and
get a clear solution ; to which we may
apply two other new tests, called the
liquid teats—these are the ammoniucal
sulphate of copper, which will give a
characteristic green precipitate, called
Soheels’s green; and the ammoniacai ni
trate of silver teat, which gives a char
acteristic yellow precipitate, called the
arseulte of silver. 80 much for Marsh's
test.. Then comes the sulpbureted hy
drogen test. Passing pure sulpbureted hy
drogen gas through an acidulated solution
suspecied to contain arsenic Iftbe solu
tion be free flora organic matter, a.bright
yellow precipitate will be formed. This Is
the yellow sqjphide of arsenic or orpi
ment. We throw this upon a filter and
dry it. It is impassible to decide positi
vely upbn the fact of this being arsenic
without subjecting it to a further test —
the redaction process; and this con-
sists of adding to the suspected sulphide
some reducing agent,- such as hiack
flax, or as I prefer, dried yellow prussiate
of potash, and applying the beat of a spi
rit lamp to this mixture in a tube. Un
der these circumstances, the arsenic if it
be present In ever so small a quantity, is
liberated from the sulphur, and sub
limes In the form of a brilliant metallic
ring. Fourth—the nitrate of silver test.
This consists in adding nitric acid to
the metallic arsenic obtained in any of
tbepe ways, and allowing it to evaporate
under a gentle heat; This converts the
metallic arsenic into a new form called
arsenic acid. When this Is dry, a drop
of nitrate of silver solution Immediately
produces a characteristic brick red col
ored substance, known as the arseniate
of silver. Fifth. - These crystals obtain
ed should be mixed with a reducing agent
in asmall glass, tube, and applying heat,
we would obtain the brilliant ring of
pure metallic arsenic. That I should
consider exhaustive. If a substance an
swered to all tbese tests, we would then
say positively and unequivocally that
arsenic was present. These tests exclude
everything but arsenic. For a very ac
curate quantitative analysis I should
have proceeded a little further than Hr.
Band did. I think Hr. Band assumed
that the sulphide of arsenic obtained by
drying the ammonia solution was per
fectly pure. In my experience this isnot
[he fact, as It would contain more or lees
of organic matter, derived from the sub
stance analyzed, and likewise some pre
cipitated sulphur, which would materi
ally increase Us weight, and thereby lead
to an overestimate of the amount of the
arsenic- I do not think it possible to
get rid of all this organic matter and
sulphur, by simply dissolving this
yellow substance in ammonia.
The only method of entirely getting
rid of the organic matter and sulphur
Is by means of calcination. To effect
this we add a few drops of strong, fum
ing nitric acid, and then a mixture of
dry carbonate of soda and n Urate of soda,
and then expose to a gradual heat in a
crucible, until the whole mass is fused
and becomes a clear transparent solution.
Then we know that'ail the organic mat
ter has been destroyed—not a trace con
remain behind. But we haven’t don
with it yet; we must next get rid of ail
the nitric acid and any trace of chlorine
that may be present. This Is done by ad
ding a little strong sulphuric acid, and
evaporating to dryness. Now we hove
the arsenic in a new combination, but
still all of it there, in the form of arsen
iate of soda. This mass consists now
only of sails, no organic matter whatev
er. We dissolve this, and by means of
sulphurous acid, bring book the arsenic,
acid to Us original condition of areenious
odd, by taking away a portion of its
oxygen. Now we have it in the state for
obtaining the ultimate pure suiphuret,
by transmitting through it sulphurated
hydrogen gas. All this complicated
process la to get rid of the organic matter
and BiilpUv.r. If uow, the dried sulphur
et be nlhcurately weighed, we can deter,
mini ‘precisely what amount of arsenic
Was originally present in 'the matter
eubr altted for analysis. Sulphide and
snhphu’ret are synonymous terms. There
* 8 no other method of getting rid of
° rganhi matter and sulphur. If the sul
phide first obtained, and dissolved in
ammonia and dried, had been subjected
over and over again to action of hydro
chloric acid, and chlorate of patassa, as
described by I)r. Rand in the first por
tion of his process, it is possible that the
amount of organic matter might have
been' diminished somewhat, but I do not
think the amount op precipitated sulphur
would. Dr, Rand’s object undoubtedly
was, in passing a stream of sulpbureted
hydrogen gas through an acidulated solu
tion containing arsenic and organic mat
ter for several days, to precipitate the
wholeof tbearsenio that might be present
but in so doing there wouldnecersarily be
likewise precipitated, not only a consid
crable 'amount of organic matter, bu
likewise of suinhur. Thejimounbo
-plur-preoipUaTeiTwould"Be"increased by
the length of time employed in the pro
cess, even If no arsenic were present In
an aoidu Inteci solution, and -a stream of
sulphurated hydrogen be passed through
it for a considerable length of time, de
composition ensues, and free sulphur is
precipitated, of a dirty yellowish white
color. Every material used by an analy
tical chemist in medico-legal examina
tions for poison, should be absolutely
chemically pure; and sulphurated hy
drogen should not form an exception. In
such an examination ail possibility of
introducing the poison which we are
searching for, should be rigidly excluded.
Sulphide of iron does sometimes con
tain arsenic as an impurity, and that is
the reason why the purity of the gas.
should be first determined. There is a
possibility that some of the impurity
might get into the matter being tested,
and thus vitiate the result. A very mi
nute quantity of arsenic, when tested by
Kelnsch’s process, will produce a coat
ing on a large proportionate amount ol
copper surface; and a piece of copper foil
so coated will yield quite a number of
small, eight sided crystals, visible by the
microscope. In using Keinsch’s teal
there is always a little organic matter
deposited bn the copper with the arsenic,
and how.far the presence of this organic
matter wouldjntorfere with the sublima
tion of the crystals, I am unable to say.
I think it is probable that arsenic- in a'
solution containing organic matter,
might be deposited o,n copper foil more
slowly in Rolnsch'a test than if the mat
ter were perfectly pure, but the presence
of organic matter will not prevent the
deposit of arsenic if time be given. In
passing sulphurated Hydrogen through
an acidulated solution containing orga
nic matter, and continuing the process
for some time, if there be any arsenic
present, the precipitate thus produced
will consist of a mixture of the arsenic
in the form of a sulphide, together with
a considerable portion of the organic mat
ter and free sulphur; the amount of the
free sulphur will be increased somewhat
by the length of time employed in the
process, because it is the property of an
acid solution to decompose sulphurated
hydrogen gas and liberate free sulphur,
and the longer this process is continued
the more free sulphur will be liberated.
Hence it may happen that such a com
plex precipitate may be composed of a
largo proportionate quantity ol organic
sulphur; and asmall proportionate quan
tity of sulphide of arsenic. It may bo a
onp half, one fourth, one eighth, and one
sixth and so on—any fractional quantity.
If this mass, containing only a small
fractional part of arsenic, wore furljier
tested by first excluding all the foreign
matter, it could be made to indicate the
presence of arsenic unequivocally. r
By Mu Miller,—Woald the administration
of Fowler’s solution ns prescribed by Dr Zlt
zer in’Mrs. Kiehl, over u period of nearly three
months prior to her death. In your opinion he
sufficient to account 'or the quantity of ar ente
Dr. Hand claims to have found • in her bodv
afier death 7 A. I would not undertake to «sv
positively how large an amount of arsenic
might be found In t he body after death after a
long continued medical treatment with arsenic
but In my opinion the quantity nttwo or three
grains alleged to have boon discovered In the
body of the deceased, to whom for a period of
three months before her.'death, arsenic had
bean almost continuously administered so
that the aggregate amount of the substance
reached the quantity of twelve or fifteen grains
is not Incompatible with truth. I think it
might account for Its presence there under the
circumstance without necessarily supposing
the administration of the arsenic there In a
poisonous dose. When arsenic and other poi
sonous substances are taken Into the stomach
If not already In solution, they mu<t become
diasolved before they can enter into the circu
lation. It is only while circulating through
the blood that the-o substances display their
poisonous effects. The rapidity with which
these substances are absorbed Into the blood—
from the stomach, varies according to circum
stances. If the stomach be full at the time the
absorption would be retarded. If H ba
empty the absorption la more rapid. The rapi
dity of absorption Is also affected by medicines
previously given, and likewise by th healthy
or diseased condition of the lining membranes
of the stomach, at the time during the passage
of the poisonous substance through the blood
A strong effort Is made by nature to ret rid of
the noxious substance, as the blood, loaded
with this substance, traverses the different
glands and organa of the body, these separate
and retain the poison for the time, and so take
It out of the circulation, or else a portion ol the
poison Is at once thrown out of the blood by
emenlctorfos or glands which separate foreign
matter from the blood. Hence It Is that a bile
a person Is taking arsenic or other poison we
can usually discover Us presence In the urine
and other secretions during life. Now then If
a person, dnrlng life, be taking oae of these
poisons, say arsenic, for a continuous length of
time, In small and repepted doses, the tendency
would be for the liver, kidneys, the spleen and
other organs of the body to gradually abstract
from the blood and retain it In them. The length
of time of the retention of the poison In these
different organs and structures, will depend
upon, circumstances. Rhould there be any
arrestol the functions of these different organs
less of the poison would pass out of the system
than if all these functions were perfectly
healthy. If the poison were given In a single
dose U is eliminated from the system much
more rapfd«y than If the same amount had
been Introduced by slow.successive stepv, pro
tracted over -,a considerable length of time.
Sometimes a poison when separated from the
blood by an organ orslructuro of the bouv.
Is never eliminated from that structure We
have an example ol this In the nitrate of sli
ver, which when taken In small and repeated
doses, is lodged In the skin and there remains
during fhosubsequent life of the Individual.
Another example Is afforded In mercury, if
, this poison he introduced In small, successive
doses. It may be fixed f»r a great length of
time In the liver, and still longer in the bones
Antimony taken under tne same circum
stances, In repeated doses, has been found
months after Hie discontinuation of the use of
it. In the bones and- fat of the individual. Ar
senic Is believed to be no exception to this gen
eral rule, so far as the fact of its distribution
in the liver and other organs of the body Is
concerned. The length of time which Itmay bo
retarned, ns I hove already stated, depends up
on the fact of Its being given in a single, large
dose, or In small, fractional, or medicinal do
ses. extended ever a considerable space of time
The length of time which arsenic may bo thus
retained has not been precisely determined, hut
I think it certain that It maybe thus retained
In the organs for a much longer period oft'rae
than If It were given in a single large dose.-
Wo have on record cases which substantiate
this. T give this os my opinion. Tnere Is a case
cited by Taylor on poteens. who> e only three
fourths of agrala of arsenic was given ton
patient in minute doses, extending over o pe
riod of 24 days, and Its administration then
ceased. Four weeks after thin the presence of
arsenic was detected in the urine of the pa
tient, proving positively that
b>cod. Now, during all this time, the arsen
ic won not circulating in the blood, but wan
gradually being eliminated from some of
the solid organs of the body, cspec
oinlly the kidney, from which It es
caped by the urinary secretion.
BY. MiS?Mu.LEii.—As a physlc'an, chemist and
toxicologist, and from your experience and
reading, what precaution should he used to
guard the subject matter supposed'to contain
poison from contamination either by design
or accident, and if you know of any facts
which would Illustrate the necessity for such
cure, please relate them 7 (Objected to, objec
tion not sustained.) In apnwer to the Ist part
of that question I would reply—the u most
fiosslblo and scrupulous care should he taken
rora the very moment that the stomach and
other viscera supposed to contain a grain is
taken tr. m the body of the deceased, those
materials should be placed in a proper rocen
tao o securely sealed and transmitted directly
to a chemist, or If not so transmitted should
be securely kept under lock urn) key. The same
caution precisely should be observed of
all suspected matters vomited, and to all
matters purged from the bowels if they can hn
obtain'd, to all I'oxes, cups, packages, or other
substances of a similar nature found In the
apartments of the house of the deceased, If
such scrupulous care be proved not to have
been exorcised It must necessarily v I irate a
chemical analysis, however well performed,
Many accidents may happen for want of this
care, for a bottle containing the stomach, «So.
may bn broken and spilled on the ground or a
dirty floor, no one can tell, but there might
have been some poisonous matter present, on
said ground or floor, with which sucu matter
might have become contaminated. A de
ficiency or disease of the tri-cuspid valve of
the heart could not In my'oplnlon be properl)'
detected without o oning the heart Completely
and a minute ocular inspection thereof. I
should suppose from the description given ot
the heart of the deceased, this description
being that 11 was flat and flaccid, without any
further Information that there' was In all proh
iibllltv'diltuatlon of the heart with thinness of
Us walls, this however is a supposition founded .
upon a more superficial description. The dila
tation of tne heart with thinness of Us walls
and disease of the valves Is a serious disease of
the heart, which might terminate fatally. The
leadlug works on toxicology, In Great Brittain,
Chrysloson, Taylor & Guy. In France. Orllla
* Tardleu In Germany, otto and others, In
America, Beck, Wharton, «tllle & Worm ley.
What would account for all symptoms wh ch
are laid down In hypothetical case, excluding
the idea of the administration of u poison.
Hypothetical case of comth. read to witness)
I should call such a case, from the description
given, one of inflammation of the stomach and
bowels, with probably some Inflammation of
the perltoeum accompanying it. such a dis
ease moy bo canned by any irritating substance,
noting upon the stomach andbowels, or It may
occur without any assignable cause Just like
other diseases. There are among these te mp*
toms nbno that I consider exclusively charac
teristic of arsenical poisoning; because I know
of no symptoms which are exclusively charac
teristic of arsenical poisons. They are the
general symptoms of-irritant poisons, and are
also applicable to ordinary gastro enteritis, or
if-BllI;
■•'■OroM'txdminect—l -’'lmvrTmnmily '’exam JtfoiT
the glass lube and photographs submitted by
Dr. Hand, The coatings on the copper appear
to me like arsenlca! coatings, but-1 would not
decide upon that point without Anther Investi
gation, and no chemist could so decide posi
tively: I have examined two or three of the
glass tabes, under the microscope, and X think
I detected the eight-sided crystals, which
under the circumstances I believe'to Indicate
arsenic. I have also examined sorhe of the
photographs taken from these tubes, and they
appear confirmatory of that belief, though they
are not very distinct. I could not satisfy my
mind of the presence of arsenic by iteinsoi.’s
lest alone. 1 could notsatlafy my own inluu ol
the presence of arsenic by Uelnsch’s te*t and
Marsh’s vest, or Its modifications. I am not
familiar with Watt’s dictionary, hut ollim*
authorities suggest chlorate of potash ns one ol
the methods ol destroying organic m itior in a.
quantitive analysis. X nm not aware that Dr.
wormly bolds that absorbed arsenic la the
liver Is inconsistent with the medical admmls
trillion of arsenic. I do ..not mean to say a
poisonous dose would not have reached liver;
it might have reached the liver, and been
ilreudy removed from there as a rule It goes
to the liver; It may have gone to ecfrno other
Organ. I think it probable In*. Tayior says It
is probgble after a poisonous dose of arsenic has
oeeu. taken, a large quantity of it would be
taken up by the liver-within 15 hours, though
t have not made any experiment to prove It.
Absorbed arsenic is generally found also In
spleen, kidney, heart, pancreas Jungs, and I
be.levelu the brain - , and in Lho utbrus of the
female, and probably the ovarlet,. In fact in
the tissues generally. The circu tutiou traverses
its mute In two or three minutes, and deposits
U where It has the Opportunity.
Du. Rodgers, re-called —There Is one explain*-
'lon I would desire to make. In the cross
examination; I nm made by the report to
commit a contradiction. I would desire to
make tne corn ctlqn the quantity taken, esti
mated In Us entire amount, wtaton will oc
naturally more or less distributed throughout
the whole body, cannot in Us entire-amount
afterwards be obtained by the analysis, of any
one orgttn, the stomach being one of iho*e
alluded to. Of course the analysis Indicates
that a larger quantity was taken than whs
found, The time death would result from
nostro enterUit varies from n lew days to several
weeks. The quantity found In the stomach
may be larger than that taken at any one time
when Ills administered medically*
Pnor, cziAs. F. Himes, sworn.—l am Prof, of
natural science In Dickinson College, There
ire several methods of destroying organic
matter. Wo might employ the method em
ployed by Dr. Hand, in which hydrochloric
acid and chlorate of potassa were used tills
method however would hardly be considered
udrnted to the complete destruction of the
organic matter, in the examination of a stom
ach for arsenic, If that arsenic were precipita
ted from the resulting solution, by means
of sulphuieted bjdiogen; for the reason
tbatfuilpbureled hydrogen, Will in almost
all cases, produce a precipitate iu such a
solution, whether arsenic be present or
not. In order, therefore, to destroy the
organic matter completely, it would be
necessary to subject tbe ter-sulphlde «f
arsenic obtained, to subsequent treat
ment. Fuming nitric acid might be em
ployed for this purpose, in connection
with subsequent treatment with sulphur
ic acid. The better method, however,
would be to fuse the tersulphlde of ar
senic with carbonate of soda and nitrato
of soda. The process might be varied;
but not essentially changed. In this case,
if arsenic were present, it would appear
In the form of soluble arsenate of soda,
which could be subjected to further tests
for arsenic, I think the process used by
Dr. Rand would not have destroyed the
organic matter. Sulphide of arseuic, of
antimony, of tin, of cadmium, and or
ganic matter, wou'd have been thrown
down in the ammonia solution and,
traces of sulphur. After evaporation,
we would have these substances left
We could not calculate the quantity
of arsenic without further process. The
precipitate obtained by Dr. Rand might
contain these sulphides, if the corres
ponding compounds had been present in
the liquid acted upon by hydro sulphur
ic acid. If he bad determined the ab
sence of all these substances except the
arsenic, this precipitate would contain
only.tersulphidp of arsenic, organic mut
ter, and perhaps traces of free sulphur.
It would be tersulphide of arsenic in the
ammoniacal solution. I could not from,
the weight of this residue estimate the
quantity of nrsenious acid. I couldn’t
tell how much organic matter he would
have in the residue. I could not give
any idea of the quantity of organic mat
ter in the residue—it would vary- The
quantity would depend upon the amount
of organic matter originally treated.—
Sulphureted hydrogen might contain
arsenureted hydrogen, provided the aul
phuret of iron, or the sulphuric acid
contained arsenic. Dr. Rand explained
that l\e did not purify his sulphureted
hydrogen, because it would test itself—
that the sulphureted hydrogen would
precipitate any compound of arsenic I
think it would not necessarily purify
itself. (Sulphuric acid may contain ar
senic. Sulphuret.of Iron may also con
tain arsenic, I don't say, however, that
they The sulphuret of iron
may contain arsenic from the iron or the*
sulphur out of which it Is composed. I
recollect Dr. Rand’s statement in regard
to his manner of estimating the quantity
of arsenic In liver. He carefully discarded
the word estimate, and only guessed ot
the quantity of arsenic. I wouldn’t like
to guess at It myself upon those grounds.
Cross jEb—The solution obtained by by
dro-chlorlc acid and potash might have
a yellowish color from chlorine. Chlorate
of Potash is used in destroying organic
matter. Any method of analysis will be
criticized, but If the method was in ac
cordance with established authorities, I
think a body of chemists would agree as
to the result. The chemist who performed
the analysis would be the best person to
form The estimate, as he is the only one
who has the data* The Reinsch test is
a recognized test, as far as it goes. If he
used Marsh’s test, it would have un
doubtedly discovered arsenic. I have
examined the mlco photographs ; there
are evidences there of eight-sided crys
tals in ail except one, whioh does not
seem satisfactory, but I examined the
sublimate from which it was taken, and
found it to contain the eight-sided crys
tals. I also examined the tubes contain
ing sublimates from the stomach and
liver, and found them to contain the
eight-sided crystals, The copper strips
seem to have the arsenical deposit on
them—lt redSmbles, to ray mind, arsenic
more than any thing else, but in itself
would not be conclusive of the presence
of arsenic. If then, pieces of copper,.in
a small glass tube, were subjected to the
gentle heat of an ordinary spirit lamp,
and gave a sublimate of octohedral crys
tals, I would conclude that crsenio was
present in the coating*
Henry Myers, sworn— l live two miles
north of Shippensbjrg. 1 am father of
Catherine Myers, and the uncle of Mrs.
Kiehl, She was my slater's chijd. Mr.
Klehl lived a qrarter of u mile from me,
We visited backward and forwards a
good deal. Mrs. Klehl'a health was very
delicate last winter. I thluk she was
taking medicine nearly all the time. —
Kiebl and his wife oftcu came to our
house together, aud she would bo there
by herself, and so would' Klehl. I never
was in his house, butstopped at the .door.
I remember very well when Rosa Long,
Mrs. Donor and others were at my bouse.
I didn’t notice anything Improper be
tween John Kiehl and my daughter. I
was there a good part of the time, but
didn’t see them with their arms around
each other. J couldn’t tell how it would
bo possible for them to be sitting that
way ahd I not see them. I \vus
in the kilchou nearly all the time. I eit
on lounge in kitchen nearly all the time.
I know I wasn’t in tho room more than
halt an hour. T didn’t see "Rate and
John passing in aud out. I saw* Miss
Loug and Mrs. Doner passing in and out.
I never knew of any thing Improper be
tween my daughter and Klehl. Mrs.
Kiehl continued to visit my house after
that. I had a conversation with Mrs.
Hoffman the Salurday of the funeral.—
She said, poor Sarah is gone now. X said,
she was at 4ur house and complained of
a very bad headache, aud she would go
homo that she could lay down to take
a rest before she did her evening work.
I saw heron Monday morning after she
took sick; I drove up to the gate before
the bouse. I gather up marketing.—
she came walking out, aud brought- me
some eggs; I bought them, paid for them;
and then said “Sarah how are you this
morning.” She said “Uncle ! feel very
bad, I had to vomit so.”' It was often
the case she would take such spells. She
came out of»her kitchen and came out
through the yard. They would come
after Kate to go over to do work; some
times they would come, together, some
times he would come, sometimes she.—
w ’he generally got Kate, because she said
she knew how to'do her work.
Cross Examined— Somet i mes Job n
would come in forenoon, sometimes at
noon and sometimes in evening. He
worked a good bit for me; we neighbor
ed. Kiehl was at my house the Sabbath
she took sick; I took my book and was
sitting under a tree; he had been walk
ing about; he saw me and was with me
an hour. He came across the fields. On
Tuesday, when she was so bad, he came
over for one of the girls, and said his
wife was vomiting so. Kate was at her
brother’s, Jane said she wouldn’t go be
cause she couldn’t'do anything for one
who was sick; I said no; there was plenty
of people there; he started—l wanted to
send my little son down to tell her'to not
come; David Wullrlck said let her come;
he went down and got another hand in
her place planting corn, and Jane went
over aiid staid ail night to keep her com
pany. I told John Kiebl I heard there
wusa talk; he said “who told you so; ” I
said old Mrs. Pilgrim told us; I told him
it was best for him to stay away. This
was tw’o weeks before his wife took sick.
Mbs. Barbara Myers— sivorn— l
lived in Southampton township;-Ij-juUes
Irom Kiehl; we were neighbors, and vis
ited back aud forward together. • Mrs.
Kiehl was over during the winter fre
quently still. Her and him come to see
us still; I asked her sometimes how she
felt and how she was; she told me she
felt better some days.and some days she
didn’t. Mrs. .Kiehl came over iu the
evening; him aud her both; she asked
mo if I wouldn’t let Kate, or Jane go
along down to. Frankford with John; I
said, “no, Sarah, there’s none (?f them
wants to go;” I said they had nothing to
do there; the were straugesr there. She
said, ho would take them along, and
leave them at their aunt’s, it one of them
would go along, and the next day she
would-get them and come on hornefl
said to her, Sarah, why don’t you go?
She told me she didn't want to go to old
Kiebl’s. I said the girls didn't want to
go, it didn’t suit; and ncno of them went
She followed me to the cellar, and she
followed me and asked me; khe shed
tears—she wanted one of them to go
along. We were rlways on good terms.
uh fur as I knowed, I went oyer some
times (osee her when she was sick. 3
was at home the evening Kosa Long and
Kiehls came to our house. There was a
irond many there, and we were back and
forward at the kitchen all evening. The
door between the kitchen and room was
open all evening; there was a light in
the kitchen and room both; we were
hack and forward in the kitchen; Mrs.
Kiehl was there all evening; they came
together. We visited together after that
night. Mr. Kiehl came with Mrs. Kiehl
that evening; she was there all tfiV-tifiie
he was. Mr. Doner, Miss. Long, MISiS
Doner,. Mr. and Mrs. Kiehl went away
together; Mr.-Kiehl took Mrs. Kiehl
in a buggy ; the others went in another
buggy. My husband wiis In-the room
part of the time and part of the time
in the kitchen. Mr. Myers generally
sits In the kitchen in the evening,
Mr. Kiehl came over for the girls, Mrs. Kiehl
told mo she Kent John over to see If she could
n’t get one of the girls to come over and do her
work. Bhe ash ed one of the glils to come and
do her work mini she came back. She wanted
to uo to her home. Kate generally went and
done her work. Mrs. Kiehl said she didn’t
know whore to get another one to duller work
like Kate. She said she preferred Kate, for she
knew how to do her work as well ns &i-e did
herself. Mrs. Kiehl said shojiked to have her
work done well. Kale was clown wiin John 10
Frankford onee, John was going down to his
father’s. Ft was after that he wanted one of
them to go to Frankford again, but theyuidn’t
go. Mm. Kiehl was sick during the winter ; she
had aspen every now and then. Showassorae
times pretty bad when I went there. She said
her appetite wasn’t very good sometimes, and
sometimes she could eat some. She said some
times things tasted middling woil; and some
times they didn’t. When she hud to throw up
she said It tasted bitter—everything she ate
tasted bitter when she had no appetite to eat.—
The last spell she had, John went down to
Kate’s bro|tier’s, and fetched her. Hew*s atour
house In the afternoon, directly after dinner.—
and waited. Juno to go, md Juno she wouldn’t
go. She told him *Sho could ’t attend to Mrs.
Klohl Ifsho gels to throwing up. I saw noth
lng k of John- and Kate sluing in the kitchen
with their arms around each other They
couldn't have been sitting there without my
seeing them, for I was hack and foiward in the
kitchen the whole evening. Kate had a child
nine years ago. Kate has not kept company
with any man since that that I kr.ow of.
Cross Esamined.—' Tills matter troubled us a
good hit thN summer. Q f Have you been told
that your daughter Kate might got Into trouble
Ifihls charge was proven against John Kiehl ?
A. Well, I don’t remember there '*-ns n woman
told mo a couple of weeks before Mrs. K., died,
that I had better keep her away, ns people
were talking about her. It w.*s a hard thing
to keep her away when th«y always sent for
her. It was a couple of weeks before Mrs, Kiehl
died that this woman told mo so. Kato gotslck*
shortly after Klehl’s arrest. Q. What was the
cause of her sickness? A. It was the gi eat
trouble and fear. Mr. Myers was hack and for
ward In the room the tlmo the company was
there, Kato was In the kitchen sometimes.—
Kate and I attended to Margate! the whole
evening. Kiehl was sometimes In kitchen and
sometimes in the r-'om. He was back and for
ward In the room through the evening, i-omo
times he was silting In ihokliehen. M»s. Kiehl
never su’d that Jo in was so cro-s tbpt she had
to come for someone. In the evening, when
the work was done. Mr. Myers sent Jane over
to stay with Kato. ns Mrs. KloliJ was so sick—
Jane went over, In fhe morning early she came
homo. I never sent Jane over before to keen
her company, i could not rememberhow often
dining the winter Mrs. Kiehl was sick When
Kale wasalck she had to throw up She com
plained of things being hitter. I can’t toll how
oiten Kate wont over during the winter when
Mr. Kiehl was away 'from home. Jt was lust
before .Mary Donor came up. that Kate was
there, when Mrs. Kiehl was away from homo
Mrs. K.. went for medicine Kale would do
her work sometimes, she would go over ami
do her work and thou corao homo.
In Chip/.— Mr, Waltrlclc camo over and said
that no heard In Carlisle, that Hie Sherlirwas
coming «|Ho arrest Kale, this was the cause of
Kat©’« trouble. D vld Waltrlclc came to our
house before Mrs. Klehl w-is dead, ho had In his
hand n bottle with medicine in It. It was on
Tuesday eve nlrg. lie said ho has pot no«v
what lie wanted. John Doner did not make
ftnv threats that I heard. This was on Wed
nesday. Waltrlclc was with him,
Oatiiauink Myeii.s, Recalled.—\ had a child
about nlno years hr. . I was between 17 and IK
years of uro. It was not John Kiehl’a. "Idid not
know him then. 1 came to Klein’s on Tuesday
evening, iho last lime Mrs, Kiehl wasslok. Mrs
David Waltrlclc was there, and she told me
there was some powders there to give to Mrs
Klehl. 1 asked if the doctor was there; shesald
not. Qhosuld John hud been In and got some
powders, and I should give her one about 8
o’clock, X wont up stairs aud asked Mrs. Kiehl
how she was. Bhe said she was poorly, hud to
vomit so much. I told her she bad better have
the Doctor before she took that powder. She
said she didn’t want tho Doctor till sbo had ta
ken lho powders all. she thought she would
get well. She said it boat 100 much to have the
Dpotar out, 1 told John ho ought to fetch the
Doctor, Rho said she would net lot him, I told
him 1 would not give her any more medicine
until ho brought tho Doctor, 'ihou sinter Jane
cntne.and cenxcd Mrs. Klehl to have the Doctor
out, I then went up stairs, aud she hnd to vomit
so much, and 1 got at. her to have the Doctor
out. Bha nnld:" oh! Kate, if you think I
ought to have him, you may toll John to fetch
him.” X went down and told John to go for the
Doctor. He wont right away. . Dr. Kevlhcame
out and left some pills and a fly blister tp put
on her breast. I asked what ailed her, lie said
Inflammation of the stomach. I gave her some
of the pills right away in the evening, I was up
until one o’clock. She res - ed pretty well, Johu
whs helping to tend to her. About, one o’clock
I went up stairs, she told mo that she felt bet-
ter. Bho told rue to go to bed that Johu could
tend to tier, she thought she could sleep. I thou
wcut to bed. I laid about au hour and weut
up TO sco her.
Bv .\in, Shearer.—l slept downstairs. John
Jny with her. Ho had got no sleep for two
nights. When 1 came up in the room. John li »d
Just been up tending to her. She hud to vomit.
Bho told mo to iook nt her blister and see
whether it hnd drawed,'and then I needn't ho
-up, and seen It hadn't drawed as much
as it should have drawed ' nt that
lime. T fixed tho blister; thou X went down
and laid ngnln , and laid till near four
o'clock, nfd then weut up to see her again.
I seen tho blister hadn't drawed. and I told
her I thought she ought to have the doctor out
-again stavran"
-r .n Bw-ttnmigirrufttwrT'rtfranisritwaS on
longer than tho doctor said It ought to be. Bho
suld ho should go for Dr. Novln, and he went;
It Was long before daylight. The doctor came
out. about an hour after John came home, and
ho told mo ho thoughtshe was u good bit bet>>
t»*r. and she hnd rested pretty wed 100 that
night. Hu left some powders for her to take,
aud ho said If we-would not give her much to
eat- or drink, she wouldn’t need to vomit, that
her stomach would settle Toon wojust merely
wot her lips. And she rested pretty well then
on till dinner time, when her mother came.
She asked her when the doctor had Leon out to
see her Inst, and she told het* in the morning.
Her mother told her she •.bought she ought to
have two doctors out. She said Dr. Nevlu hnd
(old her wlmt was wrong. Bhe didn’t want the
two doctors. XI er mot her said she would have*
the two doctors , mid Mr. Doner and Mr. Walt
rick, went to town and fetched tho two doctors.
Rhesnlcl It cost too much lohnvo two doctors;
Bhe had been doctoring all wlntoi, and If Dr.
Novln couldn’t tielp her the others couldn’t.
When her mother curao, she gave her just ns
much to drink us she wanted to drink. I told
her the doctor said wo shouldn't give her so
much to drink, that would start her vomiting
again. Her mother said she would give her as
much to drink us she pleased, for that was all
the woman lived ofl* 01. Then Dr. Nevln-aud
Dr. Stewart cara.% 'Dr. Nevlu said wo had given
her too much to drink—that was what caused
It again, 1 told him I dld'ut give her much to
drink, it- was her-mother that done it. Dr.
Nevlu ashed Mrs. Doner whether she did, ant*
she'mild shn did. Mho said she . would Just give
tier as much to drink and eat as she pleased.
Dr. Stewart then rose to his feet, and said
Mis. Doner it is the worst thing you cun do, to
give her so nuicn to dduk. She stood in front
of the two doctors and struck her - hands to
gether, and said she would Just give her us
•much to eat and drlrk as she pleased. Dr.
.\ovin said she was worse then than she hud
been in. the morning, and asked me 11-X gave
her much to drink, I tout him 1 did not—her
mother gave her. as much to drink as she
wanted. Dr. Nevlu left some medicine for her.
and gave mo directions how she was to take it.
I told him I was going homeand wouldn’t give
her the medicine, but her mother was going
to tend to her, llermother went to the doctor,
then and got the medicine, and I wont down
stairs; and weut homo In the evening. There
was never any improncr intimacy between
John Klehl and me. There was often a good
d«ai of Aiu-rtusslmg through one another—
Sarah, him and I, hut X always thought it wds
through jokes.
Ow» Examined.—l never told Anna Waltrlck
I had slept with John Itlehl. I never told- her
I had done wor-e than that. X hud no reason
to tell her that. I can't leli how often X have
been In fields with John Klehl; I helped him
to thrash tils corn. X wasn’t with him In the
fields on Sunday, I slept down stairs, in the
little buck' thorn, when 1 was at Kiohl’s. John
slept up stairs In the front room. When she
was away from home John slept up stairs and
I slept down stairs; he was not In my room,
1 had my little girl with me then. She is be
tween eight and nine years old. Ireughthav©
had tussling with John while she was away. ]
don’t remember. X was thete still when she
came down to the doctor. Bhe Just staid away
one bight. Bhe always came dftwn to her
father’s, idld-uotiell Mr. and Mrs. Waltrlck.
I would do ns I pleased with John—people mleht
talk as i hey pleastd that I had sir with him,and
done worse, and would do it again. When hr
wont to Frankford. he staid at his father’s, and I
at my aunt’s. I saw John onMoiiday, before
his wife took sick—that was the lost I saw
him, until he came down for me. 1 was never
wit)' John.nlone In the fields on Sunday. Mr.
Waltrlck and I wore loading hay together, the
Monday before Ajts.ICIoUI took sick. He didn’t
speak to mo about ray Intimacy with Klehl. as
I remember. I don’t know that I told Mr.
WnlirJck. John was foolish running after-me,
and told him he shouldn’t, for he was a married
man. '
lie-examined in chief.—l bul’t the hay on the
wagou—ho was In the mow and pitched It out.
Tho load was half on, when I- got off the
wagon.
X.EVI Trego, sworn l reside near Mount
Rook. Have known John Kiehl-two or three
years, XCnew him when lie lived with Mr.
Adams. I never hoard anything against his
diameter while he was there.
Cross Examined —.Ho went away some two
ye tr« ago, and X haven’t heard much about him
since, till th*s came out. ■
J. W. HaNDshoe, affirmed'.— l reside at Mount
Rock. Am keeping store there. Have known
John Ktehl, since 1807. I never heard anything
against h’s character while ho lived there. He
has been away for a couple of yours. ‘
Mrs. Barhara Ann Bwioeht, m-orn.—l live
in Southampton township,, about two miles
fromKlehl’s. i went to Klehl s ou -Thursday,
about one’ o’clock; I wont up stairs right away.
When I came up 1- saw Mrs/ Klehl lying there
very sick. X stood there below the bed. Rarah
said," Why, is that Ann swlgert?” Some oi
them told her It was, I went around ’o her. I
shook hands with her, said Sarah you are sick.
Raid she. *T can’t hear you ” I repeated it ovei
again. I think that time shb said. "yeSX am too
sick.” That was all X spoke to her, Mary Do
ner was fanning her. she said, ‘John you take
the fan and fan moJohn ho took the tan
and fanned her. She naked for water, but ]
can’t remember who gave it to her Rhe called
for ice. Some of them Jelched Some up for her;
at last site got so wi ak she ci-u di.’i hold It hei.
self. John took and held It for her. He sat
Sarah could uot bite it, and h» broke It and
gave It. toher. John thought she was not ly
ing comfortable, she then pother arms around
nis neck, and he put h r back in bed further
and fixed her pillows, Rhe seemed to be hi
great distress about the salvation of her soul
she would pray awhile, and then she would
fall In a dozH or asleep—then she would wake
up nun cut! for water ; and told them to wet
her lips. Johu wet her lips twice that I remem
berot.
Jane Mvans,.worn.—Am daughter of Henry
Mycrn and sinter of Kalo Kleh
was Hide middling often, and • they'-carae over
-for my ulster still* Hometlmes they linked for
rue, but they wquld always rutboi Imve my «Ih.
ler. Mrs Klehl said Kate knew bow her wot k
was done. Mr. Klehl came over one Saturday
and asked for mo. and I couldn’t go. Wo were
expecting c unpany and I got my sister to go.—
Mrs. Klehl had never asked mo to come She
was a good deal sick. H heneversho would take
a spell she would send for Kate. Bne said she
hadn’t u very good appetite sometimes—things
didn't taste ’very good to her. Whatever sue
would eat she would have to throw up
when she was taking medicine. She
paid her food tasted bitter, when she was
taking medicine. I was planting corn
there the Tuesday before she took sick.
She just came home from Carlisle on
Monday evening; on Tuesday, while we
were planting corn, she said Dr. Zilzer
was not at borne; but Dr. Bixler gave
her medicine, and his medicine was not
like Dr. Zitzer’s. She said she gotso used
to taking Zitzer’s medicine, she didn’t
need to drop it any more. She could
pour it In a cup, and take it in that way.
Cross Examined.— Kate was first at Mr.
Klehl’s last fall. Don’t remember when
she came home. When Sarah went
home to go to the doctor’s, my sister went
over. She went away for medicine just
before I was there. She was there Sun
day night. She ate at our house; never
threw up there. Never saw her take her
medicine. I know last winter she often
paid when she took them sick spells, her
food tasted bitter. I knew it before my
sister testified. I wasn't at Kiehl's w ith
Kate. They were not out much by
themselves.
JiC'Cx in Chief, —I never saw any bad
conduct between Kate and John.
William Finkey, sworn,—l live
In Southampton township, one fourth
mile from Klehl. Saw Mrs. Kiehi on
Thursday before her death; was there
between 11 and 12 o’clock ; was there
about half an hour. John was very kind
to his wife, and done everything for her
I thought a man could do. He fetched
her water, fanned her, and fixed her p||.
lows. When I went to start out of the
house, I gave Mrs. Doner good bye, and
while she bad my hand, she asked Sa
rah whether she didn’t think she got
poison ; and Sarah’s reply was, “Oh, no,
mother,'l put more confidence in John
than that.” Then I started down stairs;
Mrs. Doner didn’t mention any name
when she asked her, My wife was
there but had gone down stairs. I have
known John Klehl ten years. As far as
I have heard, X heard nothing out of the
regard to his character.
Cross Examined, —When I went there,
nobody was there but her mother. Mr!
Klehl came in while I was there. I first
knew John Kiehl in Frankfort!; there I
lived about two miles from him. We
were not very sociable; had nothing
against others. I know Mrs. Carbaugh*
I never said that Klehl had attempted to
poison hia wife before. I never sold any
thing of the kind to her. There was a talk
going. They said him and Kate Myers
were seen together. ,
He ex in Chief ,—I seen nothing out of
the road; ho always treated his wife
kindly when I was there. i
Miss Rachael Hocll, sworn.— I wont
to Mrs. Kiehl’kon Thursday evening be
fore her death. John Kiehl was in the
room ; he appeared to do all ho could for
bis wife to moke her comfortable. He
gave her ice and wine; fixed her pillow
and laid her comfortably. I beard Mrs.
Kiehl ask him if be would stay with her;
I e told her ho would. He treated her
kindly, and appeared distressed. She
called for him very often; when she wan
ted anything she called for him.
Barak E.' Finkey, sworn.—l live in
Southampton township, one fourth of a
mile from Klehl’s. I was thereon Wed
nesday afternoon, during her slolineßs. —
Mrs. Doner was there and Mrs. Culp.—
After wewere there awhile. Mrs. Donor
come up stairs, said, Sarah, we are hero
now, we want to go for another doctor—
■ who--do- , you'"want,-and-bow-many-do
you want. She looked up, and said, oh,
it will cost to much. They
said, Never mind; that will be all
made right.” He attended to her- well,
and was hind to her, I went there about
one o'clock. John gave her a drink, and
fixed her pillows, and.laid her hack In
bed. I can't remember whether he fan
ned her. I went ‘ there on Thursday
evening, they were lighting the candles,
he went up stairs to see how she was.—
She didn’t see John,.and said, where is
John ? Her mother said, What John 7
She said, our John. Her mother said,
litre be is, and be came to her and said,
here I am, Sarah ; did you want any
thing? She said, John, you stay with
me. He said, “I’ll stay with you, Sa
rah, of course I will.”
Mrs. Catharine ThuMma, sworn— l
live in Southampton township. Saw Mrs
Kiehl on Wednesday, about one o’clock,
and staid until about three o'clock, Mr.
lohn Doner came up in the room, a short
time after I.was there, and said, " here,
Sarah, we are now, to go for the doctors;
who.do you want, and how many doyou
want?" I didn't hear what she said.—
Mrs. Doner said, “Oh, SArah don’t mind
the cost—that will all be made right.” I
'hlnk that is all I heard. I saw John
bringing her water, and helping to give
it tp her. I went back Thursday after
noon, about one o’clock, and staid till
about three o’clock. When I came there,
Mrs. Doner and Mr. Kiehl were at her
bedside; and whenever she wanted any
thing she asked John for it. She ashed
for water, lemonade and ice. I saw him
giving them to her. He fixed her in bed.
He said she was lying so poor she ought
lobe fixed. He gave her ice and lem
onade whenever she wanted it. Had
a conversation with Anna Doner, In
fanuary, at our bouse. She asked me
whether I heard of the trouble Sarah
had ; I told her not. She told me she
had been there one nijjht—her mother
had sent her up to stay with Sarab
and after she went to bed. Sarah cried
and prayed and went on so she put her
head'under (lie pillows, so she wouldn’t
hear her. She said she was going to go
among her friends, for she could hardly
stand it to hear Sarah going on that way;
she said, that night she could hardly
stand it. I asked her where John was
when Sarah went on that way; she said
bo was in bed; he had went to town and
brought Mr. Billheimer out, the Luther
an preacher in Shippehsburg. She said
she was afraid ff Mrs, Kiehl didn’t gel
better, she might get wrong in her mind.
Henhy Waltrick— recalled— l have
known John Kiehl ever since he has
been married. I never Heard anything
.out of the way in regard to Mr. Klehi'e
character.
William Finkey— recalled— l never
told any one I had known John Kiehl
for some years, and lie would steal and
lie, and had a had name,
Jennie Coover— sworn—l was at Mr.
Kiehl’s house Thursday evening. If
was about dusk when I loft borne, and I
staid till after twelve. Mr Kiehl was
not in the room when I went there, but
became up, and was there part of the
lime. She called for water, and lament
ed for her soul; she called once or so on
Mr. Kiehl; he went fo her bed; it was
'he time she went to throw up, hut she
didn’t throw up any; he went to hohl
her. Ho was kind to her while I was
there, and appeared distressed.
Sarah E. Finkey— re called— l don’t
know whether Mary Doner was in the
room; I didn’t say to her, “ Oh, Mary,
what is this she Is throwing up; doesn’t
it look like poison 7 "
Miss Bella Coover, sworn. —l went
to Mrs. Klehl’s Thursday evening, with
Mrs. Pilgrim. It was dusk when X lefl
home, and I staid until half past twelve.
John wasn’t in the roorn'when I went,
but came up about five minutes after I
was there. He appeared very kind to
her while I was there. He was In the
room a good while. He fetched her wa
ter ; that was all I seen.
, Dr., P. H. Long, sworn.— l reside in
Meehanicsburg; am a practicing physi
I clan. Have been practicing medicine for
24 years. TI wouldnt’ know of any poi
son that would make the coffee black.
Strychnia might make it bitter, but
would not make It black. I don’t know
of any poison that would make It black.
; The medicinal administration of arse
nici as testified to by Dr. Zitzer, might
have left the quantity found by Dr.
Rand in the system. It could scarcely
help leaving a certain amount in sys
tem, it having been given in emall'do
ses, the very mode we employ for its
constitutional effects. We would ex
pect it to permeate thesystem, through
organ and tissue, until the object was
attained for which it was given I
understood Dr. Zitzer gave it with a
view to its constitutional effects, for the
relief or dispersion of a fallopian or
ovarian enlargement. The treatment
was proper; I think he could trust to
the profes slon at large, to sustain him
in that. It would be proper to omit
the arsenic treatment at the end of
twenty days, and commence a differ
ent treatment, for two reasons: Firsts
because of the known tendency, if con
tinued uninterruptedly, to excite gas
troenteric symptoms. Second— forthe
accommodation of this particular case
inasmuch as the menstrual period, was
painful and to prescribe palliatives for
the reasonihiscasewassuflferinglntense
ly during that period, also to give an
agent to promote the very function Itself
which lu this case I understand to have
been a preparation of iron. X heard the tes
timony of Drs." Kevin, Stewart, Kelffer
and Xiongsdorf. I think there was noth
ing in the symptoms more than the
symptoms of ordinary gastro enteritis, »g.
gravated perhaps by the presence of ar
senic in the system. I think there was
.nothing In the post mortem appearances,
us indicated by those who performed the
operation, which could have been con
strued into anything special or charac
teristic of arsenical poisoning. Acute
gastro enteritis, from any cause, mlgh^
have produced these symptoms and ap
pearances. I think I would agree with
Dr. Stewart in saying the food, the Im
prudent eating, apart? from all other
considerations, might produce gaslro en
teritis; and I would bo strengthened tu
that belief, when I remembered she was
under arsenical treatment, strongly p ro .
disposing her to gastrq enteric irritation
and then, in addition, the fact that she
over-exerted herself- The result of over,
exertion In that case 'would be equal ( 0
putting the match to the powder, l or j
should think that all the elements of
inflammatory action were now present
to produce that effect by Its combining
agency. I would be surprised if inflam
mation didn’t set in rapidly. Arsenlo-ia'
prescribed in the form of Fowler’s solu
tion, more frequently than in any other.
Cross Examined- The operation of Fowl
ler’s, solution on the human system de
pend J upon the dose. Operates as a tonic
in one sense, as an alleviator in another
and by virtue of its tonic effects, as a'
deobstruant, for removing obstacles.
does ttiat-by bol ng-absorbod atfd taken '
into the circulation, carried throughout
every part of the system. It would
find,its. way to the liver, kidneys
bladder, glandular system generally
and every tissue and organ through!
out. It gels to the brain sometimes.
The dose, for an adult, Is from six
to ten drops, three times a day. if
there are gastro enteric symptoms the
physician should notice it, and his
patient should be posted. The evidence
of injurious effect would be general
oedema or smelling; chronic diarrhoea
and occasional vomiting. , When
these symptoms occur, the patient
should omit the medicine for a while
until that subsides. It depends upon
circumstances how soon the symptoms
might exhibit themselves—They might
not in three months—it depends upon
the patient.
Dr. Geo. Fulmer, sworn :—l live in
Mechanicsburg—have been practising
medicine, since 1853. I know of no
poison.that would’taste bitter. I know
of no poison that would make coffee
black. Strychnia would be bitter,
but would not cause her to throw up.
If it is true that arsenic will aceumu-"
late in the system, then the quantity
lound by Dr. Rand, might be the result
of medical treatment. I think Dr.
Zifzer’s arsenical treatment was right,
if the patient had a large ovarian
tumor, as he represents. It would de
pend on the timeshe quit usingarsenic,
and the time she died, whether any of
it could be found after death. There
might have been a month between. \1
she had taken arsenic in medical doses,
up to the time of death, they might
have found some after death. When
given in small doses, it has a tendency
to diffuse itself, through tlje system
more than when given in large doses.
The arsenical treatment she was under
was sufficient to produce irritation of
the stomach, and that irritation might
have been excited, by some other
cause, into acute inflammation. She
might have taken cold, or eaten some
indigestible food, and that might have
produced it.
Cross Examined —l think bi-chro
mate, of potash and Iqgwood
in. a cup of coffee, would make a per
son vomit, if in sufficient quanity. If
five grains of arsenic were taken, there
would be such intense vomiting that
not much could be found after death.
It would bo more rapidly eliminate!/
from the system, in the shape of Fow
ler’s solution. Some authors say It
sometimes accumulates. I believe
Taylor and Worraley say it will not
accumulate, in the system. Dr. Wood
-ays it does accumulate, in his old
edition. . I don’t know any author
of recent date, who lays it down
that it does accumulate. It is doubt
ful whether a grain of arsen
ic could be found in thestomach, when
ten days had elapsed before- death, in
which none ol Fowler’s solution had
been taken. Liquid arsenic is carried off
into ■ the circulation immediately.—
Fowler’s solution would be gradually el.
im’nated frorn the system. It would
cause sweilingoflheeye lids and other
cellular tissues. I think thegreaiest part
of the arsenic would he eliminated from
the system, its administration covering
the period of a month. In administra-
'ion of arsenic. I see the patient fre
quently. I have given Fowler’s solu
tion to patient lo take home, where I
felt assured patient was prudent. The
effect of arsenic is different with differ
ent persons. An overdose would have
a violent irritating effect—showing
itself by vomiting, pain in stomach,—
heat, intense thirst.
He Ex. in Chief. —The burning in the
stomach and throat is not confined to
irritant poisons, but might result from
ordinary gastro enteritis. Inflamation
from causes I have detailed, might run
to mortfiication and result in death. In
the post mortem for ordinary enteritis,
I would expect to find redness of mem
brane, decomposition having commenc
ed at that time,discolored spots upon the
body ; softening of the mucous mem
brane. The discolored spots would be'
gangrene.
Cross Examined.— lf I find the diges
tive organs generally better that would
be an indication that the arsenic was not
Injurious lo the stomach.
Dr. J. J, Zitzer, recalled —l was ask
ed if Idon’t beep a separate boob, where
ail were put down, whether they we'e
paid or not. I said not. From then., j
get It put in the ledger. This sp , r | n g
sometime I got a book made, eo it ■ wou |d
not be so easy torn up. (Witno 39 then
produced that book.) I comm B „ oe d to
take itoutof those little books, I' a i JS prlug.
I went on to February, but I wat) bu sy
I couldn’t find the time. rpi )en j com
menced again in April—for , m i st of Ap
ril to 14th—then X was overrun with
business, and was going away . j didn’t
take it up again till ’dept.-{the doctor
then explained bis tj<y , 113 to the Jury.)
Jane Mtgrs, recalled. —l came to
Klehl’s Tuesday evening, about 5 o’cl’k.
I met Mr. Kie’nl on the porch. I went
up and told Mrs, IClolii ahe oughtto have
the doctor; she -said it wasn’t worth
while, it cost too much. I told her she
had better have, one; she didn’t say any
thing ; and X came down and told my
sister. My sister went up and persuaded
hereto have him, and Mr. Klehl went for
Dr. Kevin then.
Cross Examined.—l was there, my
sister and Mrs. Kosher. I didn’t hear
Mrs. Noakeir tell him “Now, Klehl you
must go for the doctor.’’ I didn’t hear
•nyhody nek him to go but myself.
Defendant’s counsel then offered let
ter of Dr. Hand to Mr. Maglaughllu,.as
follows:
JEFFBKSON MEDICAL COLLEGE, 1
Philadelphia, Aug. 7, 1871. /
Dear Mr; I have finished the analysis.
’The amount of arsenic (recoeifed os white
arsenic) In the stomach, was 1-76 grain ;
in the liver about 2-76 grains; also in the