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    • J en r it was said, from this, " That if ten
r o miiiiffi°ners Ihould be appointed, Hill the houle
may provide for such a number as they may think
support "f the motion-it was said—that it is
lirely improper to limit the number of the
comujiiiioners—that the conftitiition has expreif
lv veiled the power of forming treaties in the ex
/cutive—that in fact the Houle has nothing fur
ther to do in the business, than to provide the
necelfary fupplies-tliat if we are to be deterred
from adopting the motion by the tear of abules,
the fame principle may prevent the decilion of the
House upon almost any question that comes be
fore them—but there are more serious abuses to
be apprehended from negledt and delay in this
b u f m efs, than from the supposed fraudulency of
those who may be appointed commissioners.—
war will open a wider door to frauds and pecu
lations —and is not (it was asked) the Iheddingof
blood a greater evil ? Is not the lacerating our de
fencelefs citizens afi abuse of a much more alarm -
in<r consequence ? It was further observed, that
we have every reason tofuppofe, that such per
sons will be appointed, as have a character to
form or fupport —A magnanimous policy it is ex
pected, will be adopted by the new governmenj—
such a policy as will inspire a veneration and con
fidence inthe minds of the Indian tribes—and if,
agreeable to this idea,ai-efpeiitablecommiflion is
appointed in due season, much expence in future,
anil a cruel war may be prevented.—lt was said,
that the constitution has afligned to the several
puts of administration, its refpecflive powers.—
The power of forming treaties is not in the Houle ;
and if they usurp this power, they may upon the
ftme principle afliime all the powers of thecon
ftitution —If we restrain the President as
to the number of coinmiflioners, it may be necef
farv for him to exceed the limitation, and it would
in that cafe, certainly be his duty to do it—which
would render the reftrktion nugatory.
Many more ingenious observations were offer
ed on both fides of the queltion—when the vote
being taken, the motion for striking out the
words, palled in the affirmative by a large ma
jority.
A motion was then made, that the committee
ihciildrife, and report the bill—upon which
Mr. Jackson role,and said, That he conceived
it to be his indispensable duty to give the house
fomeinformation refpecfting the deplorable fixa
tion ofthe defencelefs, plundered, and wretched
Inhabitants of the State of Georgia. Whatever
Congress may do refpecfting the fending Commis
sioners to treat with the Creek Indians, except
they at the lame time are given to imderftand,
and made to believe, that if they will not tieat,
the arm of power will be extended to teach them
justice, the appointment of be
ofno avail : We have lately sent coinmiiTioners,
who were treated with contempt —and since that
time, the people have been plundered,their houl
es destroyed, and numbers of them butchered,
no age or sex has been spared. Mere paper ne
gociations they are taught to delpife : Congress
alone can strike them with awe : I o Congrels
the people look lor redress—and il they are not
succoured and relieved by the Union, they must
seek protect ion elsewhere : In full confidence or
this support and protection they were led to the
unanimous adoption of the New Conftitutiou —
And lhall their hopes and exoectations be defeat
ed ? I trust not. Their chief has his einiflaries in S.
and North-Carolina, and in Georgia—and the
determination of this Legillature will be soon
known to him. It is in vain to think of giving
security to the citizens of Georgia, or bringing
these Indians to treat, without inspiring a tull
apprelienfion that a fufficierit force will be railed
to convince them of the power of the United
States to bring them to terms. Mr. Jack/on ad
ded several other observations, and concluded by
reading a clause, which he moved fliould be
added to bill—providing for the railing a luf
ficient military force, for the protection of the ill
habitants of the State of Georgia, in cafe the
Creeks refufe to enter into a treaty.
This motion was seconded, but after some de
bate it was withdrawn.
The committee then rose, and the Chairman
reported the bill, with the amendments, to which
the house acceded, and voted that the bill be en
grolled for a third reading to morrow.
The meflage received from the President ve(-
terday, was read, and refered to a committee of
the whole house 011 the state of the Union. Mr.
Jackfoii then brought forward his clause in the
form of a resolution, which was refered to the
lame committee.
Mr. Wads worth, of the joint committee ap
pointed to consider and report when it will be
convenient for Congress to adjourn —also to re
port what business, now before Congress, must be
neceflarily attended to previous to a recess, bro't
in a report to this effect :—That it will be pro
per and convenient for Congress to adjourn on
the twelfth of September next—and that poftpon
■ng other business, till the next feliion, it will be
neceflary to attend to the following, previous to
t-ie adjournment, viz.
L *07 -1
THE BILLS
For establishing the Treafary, and Judicial de
partments.
To regulate the CoaftingTrade.
For allowing compensations to The Prefklent,
and Vice-Prefulent.
For allowing conipenfations to the members,
and officers of both Houfesof Congress.
For providing for the expences of negociations
and treating with the Indians.
Also the reports of the committees on the me
morial of Andrew Ellicot.
And on the fubjeift of Amendments.
The Bills to regulate the puniihment of crimes.
To regulate proceilesinthe Federal Courts, and
fees in the fame.
The salaries of the Judges.
The salaries of the Executive Officers.
And the bill for the fafe keeping of the acts,
records, and great seal of the United States.
This report being read, the HouCe adjourned.
NEWTORK, AUGUST 12.
FROM CORRESPONDENTS.
Tlie oppofers of honorary didintdions for our
federal rulers refer to the Condicution with the
greated propriety—for that is totally silent upon
tliefubjetd: The word President cannot be con
sidered as a Title, any more than that of Gover
nor : It is therefore evident that no titles were
ever intended to be given by the framers of the
Constitution.
I r seems to have been forgotten by some per
sons, in contemplating the pay of the Federal Le
gillators, that every citizen of the United States,
of 35 or 30years of age, is eligible to a feat in that
legislature—and that consequently the compen
sation proposed, is not the grant ot money to any
particular man, or body of men exclusively—but
is an allowance held up to the view of every Son
of Columbia, as aftimulusto excite a mod lauda
ble ambition, to qualify liimfelf to serve his coun
try as a Legislator. However benevolent and pa
triotic their motives are* who are opposed to this
compensation, it may eventually appear, that they
are not advocating the cause of an independent
Legislature, which shall be composed not only of
the a (fluent, but of characters in medium and
inferior circumstances —for genius and patriotifin
are confined to no rank or condition ot life.
Every class of citizens has its rights to support
and defend —the pay therefore of our delegates,
ought to be at such a rate, as to encourage and
enable such competent characters, let their cir
cumdances in life be ever so humble, to quit their
particular profellions for a season, as will enter
into the feelings of their constituents, more inti
mately than those in more elevated situations.
Who will probably be raoft benefited by the
independency of the Legislature, especially of
the deinocratical branch ? Surely the body of the
people at large. Whether the propoled allow
ance is extended beyond the limits neceilary to
obtain this important objedt, is hardly a matter
ot opinion: A refpeftable majority of the House
of lleprefentatives, that branch which mud be
supposed to have the tendered feelings for the
people, and which has exhibited unequivocal
proofs of its attachment to their cleared rights,
has declared that it does not.
A correspondent asks, how it came to pass that
the President of the old Congrels was diled Ex_
cellency, when there is a clause in the Confede
ration which forbids all titles of nobility ?—He
can account for it 011 no other principle than this,
that " Excellency" was not then a title of that im
port.
The idea of didindtions among the fame spe
cies ofbeings is odious —we allhadthefame oiigin,
and " dull thou art" is written upon all the chil
dren of mortality.—
Bled be the golden age, pure, and refin'd,
When one low level, level'd all mankind. /
NOTE TO CORRESPONDENTS.
Q5" " Tom Te l lt ruth's humorous letter is received —but
we must be.excused from publifhirig it—the fubjea it alludes to
(compensations) has already excited apprehensions, and some de.
gree of uneasiness : Personalities we are determined to avoid—
and as Congress appear as tenacious of the rights of the people,
as they are solicitous to support the independence of the Federal
Legillature, there can be no doubt that their decisions will even
tually fatisfy their condiments.
OF TITLES, PRO AND CON.
A late writer in the Maflachufetts Centinel 6b-
Jerves, as follow, viz. As for the article about
" titles of nobility," it is too absurd to merit a
minute's attention. The fume article was in the
Confederation ; but was never even supposed to
assetS: titles given to Constitutional officers, he
fides, the title of " His Majefiy" would not bo a
" title of nobility,"but a tide of sovereignty—A
title which the person whareprefcntsthe " MA
JESTY OF THE PEOPLE" of the United States,
well defcrves—and which he'will ere long receive.
The Supreme Executive will then be considered
in Europe, as on a par with their Sovereigns—
and that efficiency be found in the head of our
Empire, which the voice of the whole continent
has been so long and so loudly calling for.
THE PROGRESS.
Honorary Titles lead to permanent dijlinftions and
hereditary eft ablijhments, these to mor.ftrous taxes,
and both to the ruin of liberty : For nothing is
more certain, than that the pay must be railed in
proportion to the imaginary consequence of the
officers, to which it is appropriated. If we mean
to be free let us begin early, and not fufFer any
innovations, which like the ignis fatuus of the e
venine, may lead we know not where.
6 ' [Bojton Gazette.]
Ext raft of a letter from Bristol, May 22.
" A bill is brought into Parliament to regulate
the corn and flour import and export trade, and
which is expected to pass into a law, and by it great
difficulties are expecfted to attend the importation
of these articles, of which I deem it right to ad
vise you, left by the account I gave, you should
be induced to export, and be alofer."
ItJhould have been noticed before, in this piper, that in balloting for
their refpeflive claps in the Senate,, Mr. King drew the class jor fix
years, and Mr. Schuyler that for two years.
PORTSMOUTH, AUGUST I.
Ext raft of a letter from a gentleman at Halifax, for
merly a citizen of this Jlate, to his friend in this
town.
" I have read, with Angular pleasure, the de
bates of the NewCongrefs, and in particular those
011 the question, " whether the Secretary of
Foreign Affairs ihall be removed by the President
and inuft condidly confefs that the speeches and
debates thereon, are not to be equalled in any
public aflembly on earth, every exptefiion breathes
sentiments of liberty from the foul ?—How happy
mult your situation be, under a government for
med by tried patriots, culled from among mil
lions ? A government administered by men, who,
ifwe may "judge from atTtion and speech, express
themselves as "if it were upon their eternal hap
piness ; ruled by a Prelident, whose conduct calls
for a coinparifon from a higher power than earth :
To the citizens of the United States the name of
Washington founds in their ears like the name
of a friend.^—How happy Ihould I be to live un
der such a government —and how pleasing would
it be to my friend, ii he could fay that I, instead
of flying my country in the hour of difficulty,
now lye numbered with those heroes, who fell to
eltablilh liberty for their polterity ! Heroes who
sleep on earth to live in glory. But the wilh ot
your friend is, that the proceedings of the sons
of America, ma; be a pattern and precedent to
the world, and that Ihe may soar unrivalled in the
liemifphere of glory."
ARRIVALS. NEW-YORK.
Saturday. Schooner Nancy, Sillock, Bay of Honduras, 32 days.
Sunday, Schooncr Maria, , St. Croix, lsdays.
Monday, Schooncr Neptune, Jones, Curracoa, 15 days.
Sloop Phoenix, Robinson, Cjpe Francois, todays.
Sloop , Wining, Cape Francois, 16 days.
Sloop Bctfey and Polly, Cook, Sunfbury, Georgia.
Tucfidy, Schooner Bctfey, Bean, Charleston, 6 days.
Sloop Rover, Jackson, Amsterdam, 77 days.
Sloop Nancy, Price, Philadelphia, 7 days.
PRICE CURRENT. NEW-YORK.
Jamaica Spirits, *• - - 5f 2 -
Antigua Rum, - 4J9- "4/»•-
St. Croix, do. - 476.
Country, do. - - syio.
Molafles, - - - */*■ a *f°-
Brandy, - - - 5/6- " 5 /g.
Geneva, - - ~ 5J3'
Do. in cases, - 2 9J-
Muscovado Sugar, - - 56/ a 7y-
Loaf, do. - y3-
Lump, do. - - v 1 h.~
Pepper, - - - - 2 / 10 -
Pimento, - */9* a 9 f-
Chocolate, - - ~ v -
Cocoa, - 7 bj- a 80/
Coffee, - - i/8- * V -
Indigo, (Carolina) - - 4/ a 6/
Rice, - - - 23/. a 24/
Supeifine Flour, - 4bf-
Common do. - - 4°f
Rye do. - 2 4f- a 25/
Indian Meal, -
Rye, - - 4/3- P r • hu J*-
Corn, (Southern) - 3/9- a 4/
Do. (Northern,) - 4/3- a 4/6.
Beef, fir ft quality, - - 4?/* a s°.f'
Second quality, - - 43/6.
Pork, firft quality, - - 81/6.
Second quality, - - 76/6.
Hams, - - id. a 7 ds.
Carolina Tobacco, - a s^-
Virginia • ■■■ > - - 4d. a 5d-