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Congress of the United States-
Howje of Reprejenidtivcs
March 10.
Mr. Giles's Speech Concluded,
All this machinery leflens the number
of the productive* and increases the num
ber of unproductive hands of the nation
in Great Britain. The operation "has
been extended so far, that the poor rates
alone, probably afforded a greater tax per
capita than the whole taxes paid fn the
United States. He was altonifhed with
these fatal examples before our eyes, that
there should be any gentlemen, who would
wish to enter into this falhionable system
of politics. He said the United States
had already progressed full far enough in
to this system.
For-executively of the ordinary expence
of the civil lift a debt had been funded
upon principles of duration. An army
had been raised at an immense expense,
and now there was a proportion for a na
vy. He obfjrved that for several years
pjft the appropriations for the support of
the military establishment, had exceeded
a million of dollars per annum, from o.ne
million to one million and a half annually.
He believed that if the expenca had been
foremen, there would have been more ac
tive efforts to have avoided it. It was a
policy at this day very generally condemn
ed : yet we are now to exhibit a counter
pait of this policy upon the ocean, with
this aggravation: that it will commence
with greater certain expence, and with a
more uncertain obje£t. The system of
governing by debts he conceived the most
l-effned iyitem of tyranny. It seems to
have been a contrivance devised by politi
cians, to succeed the old system of feudal
tenures, both systems were tyrannical, but
• the objects of their tyranny were different.
The system of feuds operated upon the
perfQti ot the individual—the system of
debts operates upon the pockets of
the individual. In the feudal lyftem th*
tenant often received some indulgence and
lenity from the martial generosity which
generally characterized the Lord. The
Lord was gratified with the acknowledg
ment of the tehant, that he was a slave,
and the rendition of a pepper corn, as
an evidence of it ; the product of theten
ant'slabor,wasleftforhis awn support. The
fyftemof debtsaffords no such indtilgencies;
its true policy is to devise objudts of ex
pence, and to draw the great,Jl pofftllefum
frorp the people in the leqfi mode.—
It boalts not of ceconomifmg in calls upon
the people for contributions.—lt boasts
not of ceconomifmg in the objects of ex
penditure.—lt consults the obedience and
not the happiness of the people. There
is no device which facilitates the system of
expence and debts so much as a navy ; and
he declared from that conlideration, he
should value his liberty at a lower price
than he now did, if the policy of a per
manent naval establishment, should obtain
in the United States.
He saw another strong objection to the
establishment of a navy. He deemed it a
hoftageto its full value, for our good be
haviour, to the great naval powers, until
it should be able to contend with* them
for the ocean. It will encreafe rather
than lefTen our dependance upon them.
With refpeft to the other confidertitions,
their utility in affording an additional se
curity for the collection of the revenue, he
should make but one observation ; When
revenue is laid, the expence of the ma
chinery employed irt the collection, is the
primary consideration. These vessels may
therefore be considered as aquatic Jberiffs ;
but of the most expertfive order, they will
be an additional cost of at least 20 per cen
tum upon the whole revenue colk&ed ; the
expence incurred therefore will exceed the
security afforded, and of course ought not
to be incurred.
Upon the whole if these considerations
were not fufficient to induce the house to
negative the bill, he conceived the impres
sions produced upon his own mind by them,
would furnifh a juftffication for his opposi
tion. He said if thebillfhouldpafs,he should
however find a consolation in a consciousness
of his own fallibility, and a rdpeft for the
opinions of the majority who advocated it;
but imprefTedas he was with the fubjedt,
he felt it a duty, as far as he could,, to
give a veto to the measure.
"A CARD.
Mr. S. finding the ritizeh entkely mis-
taken in some of the ideas lie has taken
up in perufiug the last note- Mr. S. had
ttic honor to addref3 him, he is induced
o'ude more to eildeavtV ta set him right,
on the puiutin yiiich he thinks him at \a
rience with the flatetrent; the Adtive was
not carrying -p.ovifions to France when
taken into Falmouth—{hewas loaden from
Philadelphia with sugar and coffee, war
ranted as was be'Syre ltated, to he Ameri
can property —ihe has now however been
6 or 8 months lying in England, her char
ges and lots of time considerable, and her
final fate totally uncertain—depending
perhaps on the doubtful conftrudion of
what the meaning may be of adjudication
in a British admiralty court—The Mercu
ry was as unwarrantably seized and carried
into Jamaica, and it was lucky for Mr. S.
she escaped before the adjudicatory decree
had found its way thither—or perhaps
the valuable returns the citizen speaks of
had never been made—hut as it is, there
was a long detention sustained, and many
expences incurred for which the brig was
acquitted, no compensation was made.—
With refpedt to the John, her cafe was
peculiarly hard—she was cleared out with
a cargo of American wheat from Falmouth
to St. Maloes, befoie any war or ail of
parliament or proclamation of ,the British
king had rendered the doing so
yet she was flopped on putting into Guern
sey for a pilot—the 'cargo was taken on
account of the British government at the
price the French were to pay for it, but
the cargo deliverable at the Island of Jer
sey ; on going thither a British sloop of
war appointed'to convoy the brig, sent a
boat on board of her and tot>k the com
mand from tire Captain and crew, and pro
ceeding on the voyage, stupidly rtin the
brig on the rocks, wherfe she was io com
pleatly wrecked, that it colt near 9001.
flerling to repair her, and near 8 months
detention, for all which.the British court
refufed to make any compensation—with
what justice the citizen will judge.
I After all, it is but a sorry way of rec
| koning, to set off the wrongs we sustain
from one nation, in defiance of all law and
reason, by throwing into the scale tempo
rary inconveniences fuffered in the course
of an arduous revolution from another—
yet the French depredations have been
few in number, and not that Mr. S. knows
of, sustained without suitable reparation
being made when demanded: whether this
can be said with juflice of Britain, a few
months will enable all of us fully to decide
—Mr. S. has certainly not so far done with
them, but to have fmcerely the wish, that
they may speedily discover—how vain are
their projedts of starving or conquering
the French ; and consequently how much
more beneficial it would be even for them
selves, politically considered, tq fuffer our
commerce to proceed on without inter
ruption, since its riches at'laft, however
circuitoufly, center in the recompence of
their own artizans and induftrioiis rtianu
facturers.
For the Gazette of the United States.
Mr. Fenno,
Difeuffions on public men and meafuret
while conducted with decency and pursued
with candor, merit attention, as the pub
lic have a right to be vigilant arid inform
ed as to the condudfc of their servants—but
how far Mr. Fenno your cofrefpondent
Honeftus comes under this description, the
public will judge, since he has ventured in
disguised allusions to arraign the character
of one, who, though he is pleased to stile
him an orator lately sprung up among us
—he hath probably better, or at least as
well founded claims of public ufefulnefs as
moil of his age—ln 1776, from the early
period of the life of the Orator, it was
certainly not in his power to take an ac
tive part in the field with his American
brethren, but his taking the oath of alle
giance to the government in 1777, was cer
tainly fufficiently indicative of his disposi
tion to prove serviceable when he could to
the cause of American independence and
freedom : In 1781, he was appointed re
ceiver of taxes for Pennsylvania, and trea
surer to the departmentof finance,in which
Actions of great importance at that day,
he was happy to have a power of lending
an aiding hand ia the trsnfadtions which
led to the peace of 1783. —Ever since em
ployed in adtive and extensive scenes of
commerce, beneficial at once to the coun
try and himfelf, he has never concerned
himfelf with politics, further than to as
sist and support men and measures, he
thought calculated for public ufefulnefs on
the plan of 1776, & in this independent
, I
carccr," neither the renom of private malic
nor the rage of public factions flia
interrupt him—no, nor even the polit
iiifißiiations of good Mr. Honellus.
Z.
Foreign Intelligence.
RECEIVED BY THE
BRITISH JANUARY PACKET.
COPENHAGEN, December 34.
THE ministers of the powers adhiallv al
war with the French Convention, having
ften a Note appear, printed and addrefled tc
those engaged in commerce in the north,
signed Ph. Grouvelle, who therein calls
hintfelf Minister Plenipotentiary of the French
Republic, were not less furprizjd at it than
was the public in general.
Whatever may be the pol cy »f the Danilh
government, of which the form is so abso
lute, in permitting the French milJionaries to
propagate here, under pretewt of negocia
tions of commerce, their fyltem, whole end
is to separate the people from their govern
ment, they thought it their dufy not to fee
with indifference a step so bold and remark
able. In confcqucnce thereof, they presented,
in a body, a Note, to be informed wh ther
the said Grouvelle had really been acknow
ledged as ft:rh by his Danilh Majesty : which
note the minister, Count de Bernftorft', an
swered by a formal difavowa!.—The public
will wife to fee the official notes which pas
sed on the occasion.
STATE PAPERS.
Note of thi Foreign Minijiers to M. Rernjlorff.
" The ministers of the powers at present
at war with France, at the Court of His Da
nilh majesty, having been made acquainted
with a paper, printed and addrefied to the
Danilh merchants, signed by Grouvelle, sty
ling himfelf minister plenipotentiary of the
foi d'tfant French Republic, have the honour
to transmit a copy of it to his excellency the
Count de Bernftorft', praying him to be pleat
ed to inform them, whether the paper is au
thentic and authorized, and if, in reality, the
said Grouvelle is authorized by his Danilh
majesty in that charafler, at this public ast
makes them presume,
(Signed) "J. Fagtl, D. Hailes,
" Goi/xj Breiirtncr,
" Kmrdentr'. Mufquin.
" Coptn/Mgen, Dec. 13, 1793."
Anfiver of the Dani/h Mini/lcr, Count de
Bernjlorjf.
" Having given an account to the King,
my milter, of the note transmitted to me ou
the xjth instant, by the ministers of the pow
ers at war with Prance,hi'3 majesty has or
dered me to anfiver, that lie had seen in l the
note, with pain, a proof of that diftruit for
which he was certain he had given no occa
sion ; that, if it was notorious that the Na
tional Convention had appointed Grouvelle
minister plenipotentiary in Denmark, it was
equally known, that he had neither been re
ceived nor acknowledged in Denmark in that
quality; and such an acknowledgment, which,
by its nature, is a public a<3, could net but
be generally known. His .majesty, always
faithful to his declarations, cannot and ought
not to be fufpe&ed of having any intention
of failing in them. I ought to make one re
mark—no truth is more evident, nor more
universally acknowledged, than this, that no
body can be answerable for the actions of an
other ; and still more, when it relates to a
step unforefeen, unknown, and-with which it
\vas impofiible to have any toncirn.
(Signed) "Brums torff.
" Copenhagen, Dec. 18, 179 J."
Reply of the Britifb Mini/far to the answer of
Mr. Heniflorjf*
" The Note of Count de Bernftorff, in
answer to that from the Ministers of the pow
ers actually at War with France at ike Court
of his Danilh Majesty, in fatisfying the En
voy extraordinary of' his Britannic Majesty,
individually, as to the objtifl which had oc
calicned, about eighty years ago, their Note, ,
which only contained a simple qucllion on
the real or supposed cxiftenee of a fs<£t, im
plies, in the terms used in it, db accusation
against which he prctefts for himfelf ( « hile
those with whom he had the honor to a<st
may make their reprrfentations on it either
verbally or in writing) with the fame emo
tion with which he felt how little it was me
rited. If it could have been believed for a
moment that feis Danilh Majesty could forget
his declarations, the novelty of the fa<st, thch
a* the uliirpation of an aftivc and public cha
ratfter, left unpunilhed by the Gowrnment,
was a very just and natural motivtffqr their
common Note. The under signed Minister
is ready to avow, that he had not «<juallv
Itrong for i'uppofmg, that it was possible for
the King of Denmark to receive, as Plenipo
tentiary to his august and sacred person, him
who undertook the office of reading to bis
unhappy and innocent Sovereign the sentence
which brought him to the Scaffold,
(Signed) D. HAILES."
PARIS, December 31.
On this day was ceh.lo~ated the grand Fete
in hoijor of the fucccfiet of the Republican
1 he following gciieiai ot-Jer \i'ai i£.
liied.
: " By a decree of the Council General oft
[1 the commons, the adjutants and others are-'
e forbidden to seize upon the arms placed up
on the coffins of their late brothers in arms,
under pain.of prosecution. The Rcpubi;cans
are forbidden to take off their hats, or to
; forbid any others to do so. Every man is
to do as he pleases.
(Signed) " Henriot."
Toui of the jirifoners,
LEWES, January 6.
On Saturday last the earl of Egremont's
Christmas bounty, consisting of ten'fat oxen,
and ?,000 gallon loaves, was dillributed a
mongst 2-o poor families, at Petworth, and
in the adjacent pari/hes.
Two fine oxen were lately slaughtered and
diftributcd to the poor of Battel, by order of
Sir G. Webster, bart.
The Rev. Mr. Fearon, at Cuckfield, gave
a good dinner to all the fcldiers quartered in
that town, about 40 in number, on Christmas
day last.
The inhabitants of Brighton, at a vestry
held at the JJew ship, on Friday last, deci.
ded against a general iqotulation in that town
CONGRESS.
IN SENATE,
Wednesday, March 19th, 1794.
The bill sent from the House of Repre
: fentatives for concurrence, entitled, " an
ast to provide a naval armament," was
read the third time.
Resolved, That this bill piss with a
mendments.
Ordered, That the Secretary desire
the concurrence of the Hoiife of Rcpre
fentatives in the amendments to this fciJJ.
The report of the committee to whom
j was referred the petition, of Jabez Roger#,
junr. was read.
On motion,
Ordered, That it he adopted and that
the committee be inftrufted to bring in a
bill for the purpofej therein exprefled.
Mr. Bradley from the committee last
mCDtione J, reported a bill for the remif
(ion of the duties on diflilled spirits de
stroyed by lire, which was read the firft
time.
Oi derrd, That this bill pass to the se
cond reading.
The bill sent from the House of Re
presentatives for concurrence, entitled "an
ast to prohibit the carrying 011 the (lave
trade from the United States to any fo
reign place or country," was read the
- tlint* tiimr. —— ————- -—
Resolved, That this bill pass.
Ordered, That the Secretary notify
the House of Representatives of the con
currence of the Senate in this bill.
The bill sent from the House of Re
presentatives for concurrence, entitled " an
an making appropriations for the fnpport
of the military cftabTifhment of the Uni
nited States, for the year, one tboufand
seven hundred and ninety four," was read
the third time.
Resolved, That this till pr.f3.
Ordered, That the Secretary notify the
House of Representatives of the concur
rence of the Senate in this bill.
. The bill sent from the House of Repre
sentatives for concuncnWe, entitled "an
ast t«> provide for the erecting and Repair
ing of arsenals and magazines and for o
thcr piu^ofc3," was read the second time.
Ordered, i hat this bill be referred to
Mr. Gunn, Mr. King and Mr. Bradley,
to conikler and report thereon to the Se
nate.
On motion,
Ordered, That leave be given to bring
in a bill to uutKoriic the Preiident of the
United States in certain cafe», to alter
the place for holding a iefiion of Con
gress.
The bill was accordingly laid on the
table and read the firjt time.
Ordered, That this bill pass to the se
cond reading.
A meflage from the House of Repre
sentatives by Mr. Beckley their Clerk :
" Mr. Prefidcnt—The House of Re
presentatives agree to the amendments of
the Senate, to the bill entitled " an ast to
provide a naval armament."—And be
withdrew.
Mr. Vining repotted from the commit
tee on enrolled bilk, that they had exami
ned the enrolled " Refaction authorizing
the Prefidcnt of the United State* to em
ploy as dispatch boats, focfi of the reve
nue ciittcrs as the public exigencies may
require," and that k was duly enrolled.
A mcfiage from the House of Repre
sentatives by Mr. Ecckky tL*ar Cleik:
'■ Mr. Prefulent—Xiie Speaker of tk
House ol Reprelvrttaiives baring" figwfHi
an enrolled retiution, I am <l»re£ei Ut
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