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    The committee at length rose, and re
ported the bill to the House without a
inendment —In the House the debate was
renewed.
Mr. Boudinot obje&ed to the bill, as
it seemed to involve a neceflity for altering
the Arms and the Seals of the United
States, which would be a serious difficulty
and expense.
Mr. Niles observed that he did not con
ceive there was much stress to be laid on
the obje&ion of the gentleman from New-
Jersey ; he did not suppose the idea of
change was to be extended in the manner
he suggested.
Mr. Madison observed on Mr. Boudi
not's objection, that however well founded
it may he, yet the present fubjeft included
a clear and indisputable right of the states
inqucftion—and as to other alterations
which may be supposed proper, they are
not immediately before the House.
Mr. B. Bourn urged a variety of ob
je&ions arising from the inconvenience and
expence which will attend carrying the
alteration into effect.
Mr. S. Smith urged the impropriety' of
taking any steps in the business ; it is a
new fubjeft—the sentiments of the con
flituents of the members were not known ;
he hoped the business would be suspended.
Mr. Hillhoufe observed, that as the al
teration of the flag would be attended
with conliderable expence, it was but juil
that the government ihould make provision !
to defray the charge.
Mr. W. Smith moved that the bill
(hould be recommitted to a feleft com
mittee—this motion was negatived.
It was then voted that the bill be read
the third time—and to-morrow was as
signed for that purpose.
A report on the memorial of Henry
Hill was read, which is in favor of the
prayer of the memorialist.
Mr. Fitzfimens observed, that among
the resolutions which had been passed by
the house, while the doors were shut, theie
were two, which he conceived ought to
' be made public, as they would tend to re
lieve the anxiety of the commercial and
other parts of the community refpedting
the meaiures which the government prc
pofes to adopt for the protection and
feeuri'y of their intcreft.
Mr. W. Smith, after some remarks si-
milar to tlij; above, moved that the in
junction ps ieerecy so far as refpedts the
two lasts resolutions passed by the House
on Thurfdsy l it, ihould be taken piT.
Mr..Nicholas gave notice that he ftiould
move for a Committee who (hould felett
such parts ot - the communications from
the Executive, as were necessary to give
more full and more important infoima
tion to the people than the resolutions re
ferred to.
Mr. Venable said he did not compre
hend tie scope and design of the motion
he did oot fee what advantage would
result from detailing scraps of informa
tion to the people. The business is riot
matured, and the resolutions may never
pass into a bill j in that cafe, the informa
tion would prove illulive. He tho t the
most eligible mode would be to wait till
a full difcloftire of the whole business could
be laid before public.
Mr. W. Smith observed that the gen
tlcman's reasoning appeared to him to in
volve perpetual secrecy in refpedt to all
business privately difcufTed. The infor
mation now proposed to be laid before the
people, is compleat as far as it goes ; it
will show that the government has not
been inattentive to the peculiar situation
of the Commerce of the United States,
and that thev are taking measures for its
Cecurity. This, surely, is information
that the people have a right to be in poi
fefiioa of.
Mr. Smilie said that the gentleman lalt
speaking, had been uniformly opposed to
opening the doors. The resolutions now
proposed to be made public, are agreeable
to that gentleman, and now he is for ma
king them public: But at the fame time,
he is for keeping the discussions and rea
sonings on which those resolutions are
sounded—secret. He then noticed the
immaturity of the business, and observed
that there was a resolution connected with
the others, which he supposed was delign
ed in the progress of the bnfinefs, to di
feat the whole.
Mr. S. Smith supported the motion
he urged several reasons in its support -it
was due, in justice to the people on the
Sea-board thro' the United States, to in
form them that the Government had not
been inattentive and remiss, in relation to
providing for the protection of their pro
perty. Congress hat been more than four
weeks in feflion—moil of then time has
been occupied in reading papers—the
people are anxious to know what has
been done—the resolutions involve a ve-
Ty popular measure—and the people
ought not to be kept in suspense. As to
•the remark of the gentleman from Penn
sylvania, That a resolution which is tack
ed to the others is intended to defeat the
whole, he considered the suggestion as to
tally unfounded. He conccived it would
have directly the reverse efleft, and wonld
be the means of compleating thebufinefs.
Mr. Giles remarked on the idea thrown
out respecting the popularity of the mea
sure proposed—that he had no doubt that
at the present moment it was popular ;
but this he conceived, was not the time to
judge. When the expence comes to be
felt—when taxes are called for—then will
be the time to test the popularity of the
measure.
Mr. Madison coincided with his col
league, and added, he hoped the publica
tion, would be accompanied with that of
every document, necessary to illucidate
the fubje£t
Mr. Ames observed, that as to the po
pularity of the measure, he should not en
ter into a difcufiion of that question. He
trusted, that the duty of the representa
tives of the people would always be po
pular. The reasoning of some gentlemen
he observed, seemed to involve a doubt,
whether the Commerce of the United
States, was worth protecting If that was
the cafe, he could wifti gentlemen would
openly avow their opinion. He tho't
differently—he was therefore in favor of
the motion.
The firft motion being extended by-
Mr. Fitzfimons to all the resolutions, was
put and carried in the affirmative, without
a diflenting voice.
Mr. Nicholas then moved for the ap
pointment of a committee, to fele£t from
the communications, refpefting Algiers,
such parts as are not proper for publica
tion, that the residue may be made public.
This motion was agreed to without a
division,
Wedncfday, January 8.
Sundiy petitions were read, praying
compensation for services and supplies, alio
for allowances for depreciation on pay
ments received iu paper money ; referred
to feleft committees.
A communication was received from
the Secretary of the Treasury containing
a ilatement of the tonnage ot the United
States and of the progress of their com
merce fmce the eftablilhment of the Federal
Government, read and ordered to be print
ed.
The petition of William Lawrence, a
refugee from Nova Scotia during the late
war, presented by Mr. Sherburne was read,
praying relief from Congress on account of
lofles and fervices—referred to a feledt
committee.
The bill making an alteration in the
Flag of the United States was read the
third time.
Mr. B. Bourne moved that it fnould be
referred to a felecl committee—Mr. Watts
seconded the motion ; lie said his object
was, to have a clause added to eftablifti the
Flag of the United States, so that in cafe
of new accefilons to the Union, future
applications for alterations may be pre
cluded—he added, that he supposed the
title of the bill, (hould the amendment he
proposed take place, ought to be a bill to
ejlabti/h the Flag of the United States.
The motion for a reference to a feled
committee being put, was negatived 49
to 39. '
Mr. Watts then moved that the bill
(hould be recommitted to the committee of
the whole, for the purpose of introducing
a clause to fix for ever the Flag of the U
nited States—this motion was loft.
The queition then was, Shall this bill
pass—the yeas and nays being required
by one fifth of th? members, are, Yeas 50,
Nays 42 as follow :
AYES.
Meflrs. Armstrong, Bailey, Baldwin.
Blount, Carnes, Christie, Claybourne,
Dawfon, Dearborn, Dent, Dexter, Find
ley, Giles, Greenup, Griffin, Grove, Han
cock, Harrifon, Hartley, Heath, Heifter,
Hunter, Irvine, Lyman, Macon, Madison,
M'Dowell, Montgomery, Moore, P. Muh
lenberg, Murray, New, Nicholas, Niles,
Orr, Parker, Pickens, Preston, Rutherford,
Scott, Smilie, I. Smith, S. Smith, Tread
well, V. Cortlandt, Venable, Walker,
Williams, Winn, Winfton. jo.
MefTrs. Ames, Beatty, Boudinot, S.
Bourne, B. Bourn, Cadwallader, Clark,
Cdbb, Coffin,Coit, Coles, Fitztimons, For
reft, Foster, Gilbert, Gillefpie, Oilman,
Glen, Goodhue, Hillhoufe, Holten, Learn
ed, Lee, Locke, Malbone, Mebane, Ne
ville, Sherburne, J. Smith, Sprigg, Swift,
Talbot, Thatcher, Tracy, Trumbull, V.
Alen, V. Gaafbeck, P. Wadfworth, J.
Wadfworth, Ward, Watts,Wingate. 42.
The committee appointed to enquire
whether any and what alteration would be
proper to be made in the ration of the
troops of the United States, brought in
a report, which was read and laid on the
table.
In committee of the whole on the bill
providing for the renewal of loft or destroy
ed certificates of certain descriptions ; Mr.
Trumbull, chairman.
In discussing this bill, the old difficul
ties occurred in refpeft to making provi
sions competent to securing the United
States from imposition and fraud in appli
cations for the renewal of certificates.
Various amendments were proposed &
reje&ed, others agreed to.
The committee proceeded through the
discussion of the bill—they then rose and
reported the fame with sundry amendments
which were read, and with the bill laid
on the Clerk's table.—Adjourned.
UNITED STATES.
Yesterday arrived here the (hip Bac
chus, Capt. Vanneman, from Jamaica ;
which place he left the 28th of Novem
ber. The papers received contain no
thing particular. Captain Vanneman in
forms, that the Governor of Jamaica ilTu
ed a proclamation on the 15th of Novem
ber, opening the ports of that island, for
the importation of Red and White Oak
Staves and Heading, in American bottoms
for four months
An Antigua paper, of the 18th Nov.
received yesterday by the brig Experiment,
Capt. M'Koflde, favs, " The French pri
vateers are still cruizing off St. Bartholo
mew, but they are not permitted to carry
their prizes there, or even go there them
selves, in consequence of some regulations
which have lately taken place between the
courts of London and Sweden."
Adjourned,
SALEM, (Majf.) Dec. 4.
Lajl IVednefday, the Marblehead Regi
ment, conjifling of 300 men, turned out, un
der the command of Lt. Col. JVatson. 'They
were reviewed and infpeftcd ; after which,
a rain prevented any manauvres. The con
duit of the troops, while under arms,juflificd
the opinion of the Presirunt, in his late
Speech—" That the Militia may be trained
to a degree of energy, equal to every military
exigency of the United States"—and they
received the approbation of numerous interest
ed observers. J generous entertainment was
given to the officers, and other gentlemen, in
the Academy ; and every thing was conduced
in a mofl agreeable manner.
<s»=g)'o© J <<3>'O.'O < O rf s> o 'O'*S»*S > '°©*
PHILADELPHIA,
JANUARY 8.
At a meeting of the Directors of the Bank
of the United States, held lafl. evening,
Thomas Willing, Esq. was re-elcOed
President.
The Directors of the manufacturing
Society of the State of New-Jerfcy, have
published the scheme of a Lottery for rais
ing the sum of 39,000 dollars 011 266,000
dollars, deducting 15 per Cent, from the
prices. This Lottery consists of 38,000
Tickets in which there are 14,539 P"zes
and 23,461 blanks—being about one and
an half blanks to a prize—Tickets at 7
dollars each—The high prizes are, one of
20,000—one of 10,000, Two of 5,000 —
•five of 2,000 —Ten of 1000, and Twenty
of 500 dollars.
The peace, honor and prosperity of the
United States, are considerations of no im
portance in the view of men who appear deter
mined to award the palm of merit to those
exotic politicians, who have for months been
laboring to difaffed the people to the govern
ment, and to the adrnmlflration —but, fays n
correspondent, impartial and candid minds
will do juflice to the patriots of their country ;
| the early disclosure of the machinations of
NOES,
Norfolk, Dec. 25.
from a correspondent.
theft who intended that the United Statet
flo' lt', ere this day, haw been plung.-d in the
horrors of war, was the diSate of real pa
trittfm —and was made by men who have
unformly maniftfledproofs oft love to their
country in a series of labors for the public
god. It is a fad that the mofl dijlinguifhed
American patriots ere made the objeSs of the
viltjl abufe,from the pens of the vilcfljlan
derers-—fame of whom are exotics, who have
no feeling fur the American name, Fortune or
Charafler
Proceedings of the Legislature of South-
Carolina.
The governor sent to the house the fol
lowing mtlfage:
Mr. speaker, ai d Gentlemen of the House
of Reprefentaiioes,
I have tliis moment received a letter
from the Secretary of the Treasury, a co
py of which I take the earlielt opportu
nity of communicating to your honorable
house. Wm. MQULTRIE.
Columbia, Dec. 9, 1793-
Letter from the Secretary of tbe Treasury,
Sir,
The commifiioners for fettling the ac
counts between the United States and the
individual States, having made their final
report to the President, dated the 29th of
June, 1793, I am to announce to your ex
cellency, that a balance of one million t-wo
hundred and five thousand, nine hundred and
seventy eight dollars, has been reported by
the said commifiioners in favor of the state
of South-Carolina.
I have the honor to be, with eileem,
your excellency's moil obedient
servant,
Alexander Hamilton,
Secretary of the Treasury.
Referred to Meflrs. Rutledge, Ford
and Holmes.
Tuefdav, December
The committee, to whom was referred
the message of his excellency the governor,
enclosing a letter from Alexander Hamil
ton, Esq. secretary of the treasury of the
United States,
Report, that it appears, fix>m the said
letter, that a balance of one million, two
hundred and five thousand, nine hundred
and seventy eight dollars, has been report
ed by the commifiioners for fettling the
accounts between the United States and.
the individual dates, in favor of die State
of* South-Carolina. That it moreover
appears, from the ast of the United States,
pafled on the fifth day of August, 1790,
that the settlement of the said commifiio
ners is final and conclusive ; and that the
Hates in whose favor the balances are
found, are entitled to have credit for the
fame on the books of the treasury of the
Uaited States, and have the fame funded
upon the like tenns with the othar part
of the domestic debt of the United States,
but that the fame (hould not be transfera
ble.
Your committee beg- leave to observe,
that the said balance will enable the public
to discharge not only that part of the debt
which has not as yet been funded, but also
to make considerable, and they hope ade
quate provision for the payment of all the
debts which are justly Sind fairly due from
this state to the creditors thereof.
Your committee therefore, recommend,
that the foregoing report be printed mail
the gazettes of this state, so as the good
citizens thereof, who are holders of indents
and other public securities of this state,
{hould be guarded agaiuil the schemes of
(peculators,, and prevented from parting
with such indents and securities, for con
fiderationa that may be below their value.
Resolved, that this house do agree to
the report.
Ordered, that the several printers of this
(late do publiih the report in their gazettes.
Bv order of the House,
JOHN SAND FORD DART,
Clerk of the House of Reprefentativis.
SHIP NEWS.
Arrived at Norfolk, Dec. 2s.
Ship Bacchus, Vanneman Jamaici
Brig Experiment, M'Coflcie Antigm
Sch. Porcupine,Barron, St.Bartholomew
PRICE of STOCKS.
Philadelphia, January 8, 1794
6 per cents, 1
J*.. -
lof to iof\
3 ditto,
Deferred,
14 per cent, advance.
U. S. Bank,
N. A. ditto, 20 ditto ditto.
Pennfvlvania do. 7 ditto ' <livto.