October 7, 1971
Beach Boys
Influential
by Greg Fuller
Guest writer
The Surf's up again for the
Beach Boys, starting with a 13-
day tour of the USA. The Big
Rock group of the middle '6o's
who told it like it was with such
hits as Fun Fun Fun, Little Deuce
Coupe and Good Vibrations are at
it again_ The five man group
consisting of Mike Love, Carl a nd
and
Bruce Wilson, Al Jardine
Bruce Johnston recently per
formed at the Warner Theatre
here in Erie. The following in
terview was conducted at the
Holiday Inn Downtown, three
hours before curtain.
Jack O'Brien.. Can you give me a
definition of what tran
scendental meditation is, why
you're using it, and how you
got into it?
Mike Love Transcendental
meditation is very simply a
technique or action of the
Maharishi's analogy of the
bow and arrow, drawing the
arrow back is the source of all
energy and intelligence, and
letting the arrow go out into
the activities of the relative
world that we see, the
material world in itself. By
drawing the arrow back, so to
speak, and taking an inward
dive you'll be coming out into
activity with just a few
minutes in the morning of
meditation gives you enough
bloodrich, so to speak, to
carry out your day's activities
so much more easily.
TV 24 Can you briefly explain
why transcendental
meditation differs from the
traditional Zen or some of the
Hindu methods of
meditating?
Carl Wilson I really don't know
the difference. Speaking for
myself,
technique and very relaxing: -
It calms me down very deeply
and gives me energy.
TV 24 - Do you do that Om bit and
the Yoga position?
Carl Wilson No, Ido not do the
Om bit.
TV 24 It's just all mental;
strictly mental, is that it?
Carl Wilson Well, you're given a
technique. It's very simple,
not tricky or weird or strange
or anything, it's very, very
simple_
Mike Loire Yes, it's very simple
and because of its simplicity,
it must be taught scien
tifically and systematically
and it's taught with a
_ procedure. There is actually
a seven-step procedure to
learn. First step is an in
troductory lecture that is
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given by the Maharishi. Then
a .preparatory talk in which
they go into more detail, then
the inition, which means to
begin, you meditate and then
three days of checking. This
is to insure the person gets the
technique... and is off on the
right foot, so to speak, and if
he has any questions. It's
very simple and it only takes
an hour or an hour and a half
for four days, until the person
has completely mastered the
technique, and you're really
on your own from there on
- out.
Greg Fuller.. What do you think
about today's so called "Jesus
Freaks?" and their
movement?
Carl Wilson I think that their
awareness of Christ con
sciousness is a great thing,
although I don't think that
most people are aware of
Christ as a state .of mind.
They're into Christ more as a
personality, and of course
Jesus Christ was way, way
beyond personality.
Greg Fuller.. What do you think
of today's music as opposed
to maybe five years ago?
Carl Wilson It really is
evolving, and is really better.
Greg Fuller Do you think it is
getting easier and more
melodic?
Carl Wilson I think it's getting
more musical, yes, and more
melodic. It's getting more
everything, we've been
through stages over the last
several years; folk and hard
rack and sort of a .com
bination of those things. Now
music is sort of just blending
in, you know, all those dif
ferent styles are indications
0f...
Mike Love Perhaps the expanse
of .....-..consciousness—_--and
awareness - that grows in
mankind in general, which is
the reflection of their con
sciousness, and expression of
their consciousness is also
expanded.
Greg Fuller Does your tran
scendental meditation in
fluence your music?
Carl Wilson It would influence
everything you do because it
covers everything you see.
TV- 12 Don't you still get a
tremendous response from
your audience for your old
songs? .
Carl Wilson Yes, that's right.
Mike Love - Definitely. The
beautiful aspects of nostalgia
and the truths that we were
expounding in the sixties, two,
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Good Vibrations and things
like that. Those are very
enjoyable to people in that
they are related to good
memories and good times.
We're still saying, "Have a
good time," but now the
issues are just a little
broader, you know. Pollution
has gotten to a point where
it's just a little ridiculous
both self-pollution , and air
and water. The war is on all
levels, you know, so we are
hoping to see a lot of our
records get involved and
make people aware of the
issues.
Ray Geiger What's your
reaction to the fans' almost
favoritism to the nostalgia,
rather than the new stuff?
Carl Wilson, I don't know. I
don't know . how to give an
accurate answer at this time,
because our new record is
essentially a new record as of
now. I think in several
months to a year it can be
gaged more accurately. I
think as those songs become
familiar to the people and
they get to recognize these
songs I think that ten we'll
know more about these new
songs.
Mae Love I think that people
want to hear new things all
the time. That way there's a
• top ten that changes every
couple weeks. People are
always searching for
something new, something
better to enjoy. I think our
album reflects a newness and
our own personal enjoyment
of whatever we have found
beautiful lately in life. That's
why our album is in the
thirties and going upwards on
the charts.
TV 12 Do you have a new
single?
Carl Wilson Yeah, we do. I
think it will be out in a week or
• two.
Jack O'Brien All right, you guys
did some symbolic stuff, like
your graphics were symbolic
and the title, maybe having
listened to the album for the
last six weeks we've been
playing it, and yet I don't
really get any transcendental
- meditation connection. Can
you tell me how it has in
fluenced the music?
Carl Wilson Well, the thing is, it
wouldn't be, I don't think it's
really mentioned in that way.
It's really that people that
meditate are influenced in all
phases of their activities.
Rather it be a photographer
or journalist or musician, I
think that if you were to listen
to an old album, and then the
new one you might sense a
more maturance from us, and
maybe a,.. a,.. a,.. little
higher..
Mike Love A critic has said
about us that the surf's up and
this time the waves are
cosmic. I think that because
of the virtue of the fact of the
issues that we are dealing
with, issues like music, our
music is -expanded by virtue
of the fact that each of the
individuals in the group have
grown in their own musical
awareness. For instance,
Bruce is a very competent
writer and has written some
very beautiful things. Alan
has written two or three of the
songs. On the new "Surf's
Up" album, where, as in the
past, Brian Wilson had been
the overwhelming musical
genius, or whatever you want
to call him, and I helped
complement his music a little
mostly by writing some
words, and now' the issues
that we are dealing with
rather than cruising to the
hamburger stand, or ah, Be
True To Your School or what
have you, now they're a little
more expansive and more
universal.
Jack O'Brien I know for a while
there you had your own label.
Mike Love We still do have it...
Jack O'Brien You still have it
Gee, I thought you and the
Beatles were keeping Capitol
Records alive.
Mike Love That's another story
... (laughter)
Carl Wilson- Yes,- we were- very
fortunate to sell a lot of
records.
Jack O'Brien Have any idea
just how many millions?
Carl Wilson 65 Million
somewhere around there.
Greg Fuller Are you guys using
a Moog tonight?
Carl Wilson Yes, a small one.
Greg Fuller 0.K., another
question that's totally
unrelated. Is it true that you
guys are on a natural food
kick —that's sort of the
wrong word to use and is
there any reason behind this?
Carl Wilson Yes, that's right,
my brother owns an organic
food store in L.A.
Bruce But he won't give us a
deal... (laughter)
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course, has been a vegetarian
for a long time.
Bruce And I'm steaming rice in
my room right now.
Greg Fuller Does this sort of
thing pick up among you, say
as one gets into, say tran
scendental meditation, like
Mike, do the rest of you
eventually get into it or what?
Mike Love Diet has nothing to
do with transcendental
meditation.
Greg Fuller No, that's not what
I mean.. .
Bruce Are you asking the guys
if meditation causes them to
improve their health
methods?
Greg Fuller No, what I meant
was, say, if you got into health
food, would the others
eventually pick up on this?
Bruce I think that we all in
fluence each other, but I don't
thing that MEDITATION got
to everybody into the health
foods because I don't really
meditate, but I get -into my
health. I ride my bike 12 miles
a day. See, I dig feeling good,
and I don't Eke to drink too
much wine, because I've
found I feel better if I feel
good in a natural way, and it
just makes sense to be
healthy because then you can
perform better when you're
under the pressures of
touring.
TV 12 How do you feel about
dope?
Mike Love How do I feel about
dope? I think it's the most
negative thing that you can do
to your body. I think it's the
- equivalent of death. All these
hallucinogens or marijuana
. or whatever you want to say
are bad for your nervous
system. I haven't touched
anything for over three and a
half years. I've found I don't
need them.
Greg Fuller Just one more
question before you go. How
long can we expect the Beach
Boys to be around?
Mike Love The rest of our lives!
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