writes me he is fending forward a quantity or woollen overalls and locks by General Boiler's orders : I have ordered them to be depofite.l ac Fort Jefferl'on. Some few Indians about us, pro bably those the militia fell in with a day or two ago. .T wo of the levies were fired upon about three miles off, one killed: two of the miikia likewise, one oftheni got in, and cite oilier raid ing, supposed to be taken. 291b, Pyamingo and his people, accompanied by Captain Sparks u.id four good riflemen, gone on a scout ; lli.*)' d-j not propose to return ur.der ten days, unless they fooncr succeed in ta'-.ing prilotiers and scalps. 30th, the army moved about nine o'clock, and with much diificulry made seven miles, having left a conliderable part of the tents by the way ; the provision made by the quarter-malter for that purpose was not adequate—three days flour iifii ed to the men to aid the horses fli.tt carried it to his arrangements ; the Indian road still with us —tlie course thisday N. 25. \V. 31ft. Thismorn ing about sixty of the militia deserted—it was at firft rejiorted that half of them had gone off,and that their design was to plunder the convoys which were'upon the road—detached the firft regiment in pursuit of them, with orders to Ma jor Hamtramck to fend a fufficienp guard back with Benham whenever he met with him, and follow them about twenty-five miles below Fort- Jefferfoni or until he met the second convoy,and ihen return and join the army. Benhain arrived last night, and to-day, Nov. ift, the army is halt ed to give the road-cutters an opportunity of get ting foine distance a-head, and that I might write to you—l am this day coiiliderably recovered,and hope that it will turn out what I at firll expell ed it would be, a friendly fit of the gout come to relieve me from every other complaint. Yesterday I was favored wilh yours of ihe 28t !i knd 29th September, I have enclosed my commu nications with the old and new contractors and their anfweis—My orders for the polls to rheni are not yet definite, but they will be very soon, in the mean time I expect they are both at work. With great refpeift 1 have the honor to be, Sir, your moll obedient servant, ARTHUR St. CLAIR. The Hen. Maj. Gen. Knox, Secretary of War. cROld THE WINCHESTER (VIRGINIA CI ST IX EL AFTER Gen. St. Clair's army left FOl t-V/afh ington, they eredted two forts, the fiiit of which is called for Hamilton, the second Kort-Jeffer fon—that*, within about ij miles of the Maumee towns, they halted for the purpose of erecting a third—that the savages hovered round their camp 011 the day preceding the aiftion, which caused the troops to lie on their arms duiing the night—that the former began the attack about day-break—that the carnage was great on both fides—that two troops of light horse cut their way through an imineufe multitude of the sava ges, and finding a ftilf greater number in their rear, \vere compelled to leturn in the fame man ner—that the gallant Colonel Darke cut his way thro' parties of the savageS three different times —that the artillery was captured by tbe ene«>y five, and recaptured by our troops four times that Gen. St. Clair was lying ill of the gout in his tent during the unhappy conflict—that his guaids prevented fouie of the Indians from en tering the tent, to butcher him, by mere dint of the bayonet—that many of the enemy fell in this that some women are among the Haiti oa the p?rt of the Americans. The Chickafaw Chief, Mountain Leader, with 42 warriois of that nation, pafled through Lex ington fonie time in (Mober last, on their way :o jjun Gen. St. Clair—that at the time of the acftion many of these were prefcnt, who fought with great bravery on the part of the Americans, but the Mountain Leader himfelf had been sent by the General,- some days previous thereto, as a pilot to a detachment of the army, which was or dered ag3inlt some of the enemy's towns. LONDON, September 50. I '■- famous Baron Trenck, whose pension -*■ the Emperor had augmented from icoo to 1500 florins, on condition that he engaged under his hand not to publish any thing either in the Auflrian dominions or elsewhere, has been guil ty of an unpardonable breach of faith. Noi'oon ei was lie arrived in Hungary, than at Buda he committed a w>,ik to the p tfs in favor of the French Revolution, in which he had the temeri ty to declare, that the convulsion of the French ought to fei ve as a model for o'her States, and that himfelf had contributed much to the Revo lution. The Hungarian government having feiaed his pcrfon, lie was conducted to Vienna under an efco'tof twelve grenadiers, and is put into the madjioufe, where probably he willendhis days. J he Princes of the German empire have refer *«•!• the "^ o!e °f ,htir concerns refpeifting tlie a . f r °f France, and the proceedings of the.Na tlonajAflembly to the Emperor, \vi h a promise CeVerh€ 111311 advise in that CONGRESS. PHILADELPHIA HOUSE OF RE P R ESE NTATIV ES, WEDNESDAY, DECt:.i3Er. 7, 1 791. i n committee of the whole, 6/; //,(? Pefl-Qjficc Bill. ("CONCLUDED.) - — _ y . /l/r. Sedgwick's motion under conftdcratioa. MR. MADISON Giid that the arguments which are offered by the gentlemen who are in favor of the amendment, appear to be drawn ra ther from theory rather than any line of prac tice which had hitherto governed the house. However difficult it may be to determine with precision the exuift boundaries of the legislative and executive powers, he was of opinion that those arguments were not well founded, for they admit of such a conftrncftion as will lead to blend ing those powers so as to leave fio line of separa tion whatever. The greatest obstacle to the due exercise of the powers vested in the legiflatiire by the bill, which has been mentioned, is the difficulty of accom modating the regulations to the various interests of the different parts of the Union—and this is said to be almost impracticable—but it may be remembered, that finiilar einbarraflments appear ed u hen the inipoft and tonnage bills were under confidei ation ; on those fubjeifts, the members were obliged to be governed, in a great degree, «by mutual information and reciprocal confidence, in respect to the ellablifhment and arrangements of the different ports of entry and clearance, and other objedts—that was a bnfinefs of much greater importance and difficulty than this; but it was accump'ifhed. 1 he conflitution has not only given the legis lature the power of creating offices, but it exut efs ly reft rains the executive from appointing offi cers, except such as are provided for by law. As has been well observed by the gentleman from Delaware, the President is inverted with the ppw er of filling those offices—but does it follow that we are to delegate to him the power to create them ? The referenceiotheappointnients and arrange ments made by rlie executive, pursuant to the powers delegated to the executive by the excise law, cannot be considered as a parallel cafe; no liinilar exigency exilts to jultify a similar delega tion. rhe danger of infringing on the powers of the executive, which has been suggested, and the caution to the house againtt touching on the appointment of officer*, is a species of reasoning on the fubjedi, which may be carried so far as to fay that we ougjht not rt> make any appointments by law—and yet this has been done as in the in (tance of the appointment of the commiifioneis • for purchasing in th© public debt, all of whom were appointed by the atft making provision for the rcdutftion of the public debt. Where is the necelfity of departing from the principles of the conltitution in refpecft to the poll-office and :ioft-roads, more than in all other cases ? The fubjet.l is expressly committed to le gislative determination by the conltitution.—lf the second fecftion of the bill requires amend ment, it can be rectified when it comes before us; and with refpecftto future cases, (hould there be a necefiity for additional post-roads, they can be provided for by fuppleinentary laws—and therefore no reason on that account can be urged for delaying the provision proposed by the bill. He concluded by faying that there did not appear to be any neeefliry for alienating the powers of the house—and that if this (hould take place, it would be a violation of the Constitution. Mr. Sedgwick said he would make a few ob servations, which he felt himfelf obliged to fub init to the confiderarion of the committee,as well to defend himfelf as his motion, from the unwar rantable attacks which gentlemen had made on both. The powers of the constitution, he was sorry to fay, were made in debate to extend or con tract, as seemed tor the time being to suit the convenience of the arguments of gentlemen The member from Virginia, (Mr. Madison) had discovered an additional quality of unconftituti onality involved in the motion under considera tion. It was, that the creation oj offices was by the constitution confined solely to the Ugiflature This position was undoubtedly jult, if by it was meant that the powers and duties of offices mnft be defined by i law But he understood the gentleman to ex tend his meaning much further, and to have de clared in substance, that all offices, however fubor dtnate and dependent, mujl be numerically provided Jor by law.—The gentleman had, with his ufuai 266 ot Ins princtpteto the power wiii mber was Ve -v ~r o. perly left with the ex-;s ve. J., t j lat inltaiite* ■ Juch a delegation w is indispensably neceilan »>•' '-yas it, in his opinion, lef's necVliary in th" iiiuh It. iiyis nri inijemtn l - of j>oft-o:ficcs, 7 'ml gen tie in an had supposed this lieceiiity had ii M ! ;nli life jollified the expedients ; if so, the lb,; » conclusion might be drawn 0 ,. Uie present fion. But, for Ins part, if he ihonlrt aflh.nc tha; member's opinions, he (houldbe incapa'olcof J-- riving consolation from the fame source ; _fT (hat there never had as yet been, ai.d probably never would exist in the administration of tin* government, a necessity so urgent as to authorii an iifurpation of power. The motion before the committee was constitutional, or the reverse—is the latter, the fame was true of the exiftinn- aifi in the instance alluded to. That in either in stance, a supposed necell'ity could not jultify tii e infraction of a constitution which the members were under every obligation of duty, and their oaths solemnly pledged, to support. Gentlemen, laid he. should be nery cautious how, on flight grounds, they aOent to principles, which, if t«ev were true, would evince that the governmejji: had scattered through the whole country, officers w ho are daily seizing on the property <.f the ci tizens, by the afTumption of uitconltitutional powers He said it was true, as had been observed by his friend from New-York (Mr. Benfon) that it was impoiiibie precisely to define a boundary line between the bnfinefsof legislative and ex ecutive ; but from his own . experience as a public man, and from reflection, he was indu ced to believe, that as a general ruie, the efla blifhment of principles was the peculiar pro vince of the former, and the execution of them, that of the latter. He would therefore, at least generally, as much as polfibie avoid gainer imo detail. In adopting this as a general rule of conduct, he 'was not influenced by considera tions which gentlemen in opuofition to his mo tion, had fuggelled ; the pre-eminently great and good character of the man who was now called by unanimous fufFrage to administer the executive.—For he had always considered that with fagacioas minds, that filould be the feafou of political caution, when the executive was in the hands of one to whom all hearts justly bow ed. From the nature of the business to be tranf afted, he had drawn his conclufijn ; he thought an executive officer refponlible to the public for the performance of an important and interesting trust, would enquire with more scrupulous cau tion, and decide with more jullice, than could be expetfed from a popular aflembly—who from the nature of things, would be more remiss than confided with a just determination ; and he ap pealed to those gentlemen who were members of the last house, for a recollection of that apathy and torpor which prevailed on a former attempt to demark the poll roads. He observed that the opposition to his motion on the ground of unconttitutionality, came with an ill grace from the gentleman who had report ed the bill ; for by one fedlion, the poft-mafter getieral was expressly authorised toeftablifh poft roads not provided for by the bill, upon a con dition that does not at all affeci the present ques tion ; and by another feiSion, the iame officer was authorised to appoint unrestrained all his deputies, each of whom is to eflablifli and keep an office. This, in his opinion, was not only expedient but indispensably neceiTary. It was, however, a delegation of power, attended by all thole circumstances which rendered in the opin ion of that gentleman, the present motion un conllitutional. He said, no gentleman had contended for car ryinginto execution the principles they attempt ed to establish, to an extent to which they would go.—That no nad can be a pefl road but such as foall be ejlablijhed by law. The bill establishes the road from place to place, leaving the interme diate didance untouched ; as for instance, from Boston to Worceiter : Between those two points is, or is not a poll road, if the bill fhowld become a law, established ? If the former part of the dilemma is embiaced, then also by the motion, if adopted, will a polt-road be eftablilhed from Maine to Georgia. For he ftippofed it impos sible to make any well founded distinction be- tween the one cafe and the other. Ilis motion then would as effectually eftabliih a post-road in ihe intermediate space us the bill in its pre tenr form ; and all the objections which had been made to the former would apply with equal force to the latter. Gentlemen, he said. had spoken in ftrongterms of the dilintereftednefs, information, and res n, fuiefa: