rolina, which being read, the fame was referred
to a committee of the whole House, to be ta
ken up to-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Smith the meflage from the
Senate was taken up, which being read, it was
moved tnat the House Hiould concur.
Mr. Hartley, in objection to a concurrence,
observed, that he had laid a motion on the table
for taking up a particular bill in the state it was
left the last session—and this he did upon a per
suasion of the difference between an adjourn
ment and a prorogation— the latter was a con
current ac r t, the former an atft of one branch
on the latter it was usual to consider all the buli
nefs unfinilhed,as thoit had not been acted upon
—in the former it was usual to resume the unfa
niflied business as thono adjournment had taken
place—and this practice certainly conduced to
expedite business, and to public economy.
Mr. Jackson replied to Mr. Hartley and the
motion for concurrence being put, it palled in
the affirmative.
Mr. Smith (S. C.) laid the following on the
Resolved, that it be eftabliflied as a standing
rule of the House, that every future adjourn
ment of Congress for more than days, lhall
be cotifidered as a termination of the session, and
that at the next meeting the business depending
at the time of fucli adjournment,(hall not be taken
Up unless it be commenced de novo.
Mr. Burke moved that a committee be appoint
ed to bring in a bill for securing literary pro-
White observed that the bill which had !
been before the House, among many other arti
cles, included the objecft of the gentleman's n\o
tlG]Vl'r. Burke, in reply, said that the bill alluded
to comprised a variety of objedts, which he believ
ed would occasion a good deal of difcuilion, and
his wish was to have immediate provision made
f6r one particular objed:—and this might be
done very soon as a short bill would anfvrer the
purpoie.
The motion was adopted—and Mr. Burke, Mr.
Huntington, and Mr. Cadwallader appointed.
The fill forthe encouragement of arts,fciences,
&c. was referred to the fame committee.
Aiourned.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26.
Mr. Thatcher prefemed a petition from the
inhabitants of the town of Portland, praying re
lief under the operation of certain parts ot the
Revenue Law —read and laid on the table.
In committee of the whole on the bill for adapt
ing the laws of the United States to the present
State of North Carolina.^
Mr. Baldwin in the Chair.
The a (ft being read, it was difcufled by para
graphs. The Committee having gone through
the fame, rose, and the chairman reported the
bill with some amendments. The House con
cedingtothefe amendments, it was ordered, that
the bill pass to be engrofl'ed.
The bill for establishing a uniform rule of na
turalization was read a second time, and referred
to a committee of the whole house, to be taken
intoconfideration on Tuesday next.
It was ordered that 100 copies of this bill be
%n motion of Mr. Ames, thememorial of James
Price was read a second time.
He then moved that this memorial should be
refered to the Secretary of the Treasury.
Mr. FitzGmons observed that lie (hould prefer a
reference to a feleft committee, as the House
would in that mode derive information from
their committee, and from the Secretary, as tiie
Secretary could communicate to the committee
the reful't of his enquiries.
The motion for refering it to a special commit
tee obtained—and Mr. Ames, Mr. Fitzfimons,
and Mr. Boudinot were appointed.
In committee of the whole on the bill provid
ing for the a&ual enumeration of the inhabitants
of the United States.
Mr. Baldwin in the Chair.
Mr. Madison proposed the following as the
form ofa general l'chedule, in lieu of that in the
bill, viz.
Free white males under 10
Free white males above 16.
White Females,
Free Blacks,
Slaves,
He then proposed that a particular schedule
Ihould likewise be included in the bill, fpecifying
the numbers of persons employed in the various
arts and profeflions cariied on in the United
Si£it £S•
Mr. Sherman obfervcd that he did not fee the
advantage to be derived from so particular an enu
meration —It would doubtless be attended with
great difficulty and expence.
Mi'. White said, that tho lie should be pleased
■with obtaining an enumeration on the gentle
man's plan, he rather fuppoled that Congress ,s
rot authorized by the Constitution to call for so
particular an account —The Constitution refeis
only to a Census for the more perfectly equaliz-
Jngthe Representation.
Mr. Madison's proposition was agreed to, by
the committee.
Mr. Livermore proposed a clause by which
heads of families, and every male person more
than 21 years of age belonging to any family,
Ihould be compelled by the allillants, if necefl'ary,
on oath or affirmation, to give a true account of
the number ofperfonsin such family—on penal
ty of forfeiting the sum of dollars.
The words on " oath or affirmation" were
(truck out —thepropofition was then adopted.
The Committee then rose and reported the bill
with the amendments—which being read in the
House—Mr. Ames moved that the whole bill be
recommitted, which was voted in the affirmative,
and Mr. Madison was added to the committee.
Mr. Ames of the committee to whom the report
of the Secretary of the Treasury on the petition
of Christopher Saddler, was referred, reported,
That provision ought to be made for the reinif
fion or mitigation of fines, penalties and forfei
tures in certain cases.
This report was accepted, and the fame com
mittee was ordered to bring in a bill accordingly.
Mr. Ames on the part of the committee, pre
sented the draft of a bill, which was read the firft
time.
In committee of the whole, on the bill to pro
vide the means of intercourse between the United
States and foreign nations.—This bill empowers
the President to draw out of the Treasury of the
United States, a funi not exceeding 40,000 dollars,
for the support of fucli persons as he may find
neceflary and proper to employ in the intercourse
between the United States and foreign nations;
with a proviso, that a
Minilter plenipotentiary <hall not receive more
than 9000 dollars per annum, as a compensation
for all his services and expences.
A Resident,
A Charge des Ass; res,
A Secretary,
Mr. Livermore moved that the word annually,
(hould be inserted after 40,000 dollars, which was
agreed to.
Mr. Lee said that in his opinion the President's
power to draw this money from the Treasury,_
should be, by and with the advice and consent of
the Senate, and moved that the clause be amend
ed so as to read agreeable to his idea.
This motion was opposed, it was said, it would
interfere with and leflen the responsibility of the
Prefident —would tend to excite jealousies and par-
ties in the Senate, and may in its consequences
counteract the eflential interests of the United
States—the President is reftridted to a certain fuin
which he may not exceed—and for the expendi
ture of which he mull account— the appointments
must be made by and with the advice and consent
of the Senate,and he may consult them in the ap
portionment of the salaries, but it mult be left ge
nerally discretionary with him, how much it will
be neceflary to allow in particular cafes—for if
his judgement is to be controuled in this point,
or is to be confined and limitted,it is evident that
embarraflinents will very probably ensue—espe
cially as advances of money may be neceflary in
the recess of the Senate.
In support of the motion, it was observed, that
as 110 appointments can be made but by and with
the advice of the Senate—that no treaties can be
formed without their concurrence, it appears in
congruous that they Ihould have no voice in de
termining the salaries of persons which they may
appoint to make treaties, or to carry on the inter
course between the United States and foreign na
tions.—This will give a 1 undue influence to the
President in forming treaties —and, fuperceding
the interference of the Senate in a business to
which they are equally competent, with the Pre
sident, is contrary to the Constitution.
Mr Lee varied his motion, so as to affe<ft the
allowances to be made to foreign ministers, that
they should be apportioned by the Prefidenr, by
and with the advice and consent of the Senate, not
to exceed thefum fpecified in the bill. _ _
The debate was continued after the variation
of the motion—and the arguments drawn from
the concurrent power of the Senate in all the ap
pointments, treaties and connections refpecfting
foreign nations, it was contended equally affect
ed the business in every poflible shape and modi
fication of it. .
On the other hand it was contended the lnter
courfe with foreign nations is a trust specially
committed to the President of the United States ;
and after the Legislature has made the neceflary
provision to enable him to discharge that trust,
the manner how it {hall be executed must J"ell
with him ; his refponfibiliry for the execution of
it to thebeft of his judgment, is a fufficient fecu
r;ty Nor can the Senate be afiociated with him
in the discharge of this trust, with any morepro
priety than a committee of this House—The a
mendment as now stated will induce an impro
per interference, in points which must depend
on contingencies, and these enter into the very
nature of the trust.
On motion of Mr. Livermore the committee
rose, reported progress, and asked leave to fit
again. The House then adjournedtill II o'clock
to morrow morning.
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HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
LEGISLATURE OF STATE OF NEW-YORK
FRIDAY, JANUARY 22
A memorial and vemonftrance of the society
called Quakers, and praying for the abolition of
llavery, was read and referred to a committee
confiiting of a member from each county.
A petition of William Jauncey, praying that
periuiffion might be given to Junes Jauncey to
return to this State, he being at prel'ent a pro
scribed person, was read and referred to Meifi s.
Watts, Barker and Crane
The House went into a committee on the bill
for authorising the Mayor, Aldermen and Com
monalty of New-York, to raise monies by tax.
Mr. Brown in the chair
The sum of u,oool. was inserted in the bill.—
And the bill being gone through, the committee
rose—the House accepted of the report and order
ed the bill to be engrofled for a third reading.
The House then went into a committee on the
Governor's meflage.
Mr. Watts in the chair
A resolution was agreed to, that it ffiould be the
order of the day on Tuesday next to take up the
proposed amendments to the Constitution. A re
solution was also agreed to, that a committee
fliould be appointed to report a permanent ar
rangement for the support of government.
The committee then rose—the House accepted
the report; and Mefl'rs. King, Jones, Havens,
Tillotfon, and Gilbert, were appointed a commit
tee for the lafl mentioned purpose.
NEW-YORK, JANUARY 27,
The advocates for a difcriinination between
original creditors and thole by purchase appear to
want information, It is well known that the debt
of the United States in innumerable inltances,
was contracted under the most disadvantageous
civcumftances, and the evidences of the debt
poflefled by original creditors, were obtained at
four times the real value of the supplies furnifhed.
When our affairs wore a dubious afpedt, many a
soldier would have starved in the street, with ten
pound notes in his pocket, had it not been for
purchasers, whom every body then considered as
persons " throwing their bread upon the waters,"
in buying at the greatest discount, public fecu
rities —Now which of these two descriptions of
creditors merit mod from the justice of our coun
try
A Society for the pm pofeof promoting the abo
lition of Slavery is forming at Richmond, Virginia.
The Debates of Congress are republiflied in
all the papers of the United States, with an avi
dity which shews that the printers consider them
as highly interesting to their readers.—This is
deriving political wisdom from the fountain head.
The discrimination between the creditors of the
Union so earueftly contended for by some wrong
heads, appears to be generally reprobated, as
favoring of the policy of those times when ten
der laws and regulating a<fls sullied the annals of
our country.
A shocking event took place at Rochester, Maf
l'acliufetts, a few weeks since, when a house was
consumed by fire, and four children periihed in
the flames.
The ratification of the Amendments to the
Constitution by the State of Maryland, is an ad
ditional trait in the truly federal charaifler of
that refpe<ftable republic.
Congrefsis now deeply immersed in public af
fairs—and truly important are the objects that
await their deliberations—the great machine of
government for this extensive empire being set
in motion, the adjustment of its various move
ments so as to produce thebeftgoodof the whole,
appears to be the great concern, and to call forth
the united wisdom, patience and persevering in
vestigation, of the great national Legislature of
the United States.
The examination of the young gentlemen un
der the care of Meflrs. Hardie and Duncan,
will be concluded this day, between the hours of
i t and 2 ; their parents and guardians, and such
gentlemen as are interested in the progress of
their scholars, are earnestly requested t<t attend.
ARRIVALS.—NEW-YORK.
Saturday, 23, Ship Betsey, Rooke, London, 77 days.
William, Hayes, Liverpool, 70 days.
Snow St. Anthony, Cuite, Trinidada 28 days.
Schooner Experiment, Burnett, Wilmington, 35 d.
Sloop Nancy, Ventus, Peterlburgh, Virginia, 3 d
Brig Hull Packet, Lawrence, Teneriffe, 42 days.
Four Friends, Hendricks, Lisbon, 65 days.
Maria, Jenkins, Port au Prince.
Blue Moon, Janfon, Dort, 63 days.
Schooner , , Newbern.
Rambler, Rogers, Edenton.
Sunday, 24,
Monday, 25,
Tuefday y 26,
REPORT of the SECRETARY of the
TREASURY to the House of Representatives, relative to a
provision for thefupport of the Public Creditof ihe United States,
in conformity to a resolution of the twenty-firftof Sept. 1789.
Publithed by authority.
Printed *v Tp.ancis Childs, and John Swains—and fM.at
t'icir Ojfuc, No. 190, Wata-Strut ;JMalfoby Berry tni Rogers.
Kea-York, Jan. 1790-
This day publijhed,