Page 6 The Behrend Beacon O'Reilly, Matthews spar at Southern Methodist university by Ed Bark The Dallas Morning News Bill O’Reilly, Chris Matthews and their well-muscled mouths drew a jam-packed house of listeners this week to the Southern Methodist University campus. Together for the first time onstage, the verbose cable news personalities clearly deserved each other. That s intended as a compliment. Two bright guys who love to hear themselves talk met their matches in SMU's McFarlin Auditorium. The hosts of Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor" and MSNBC's "Hardball With Chris Matthews otherwise are more accustomed to pummcling a hap less university professor or dominating a think-tank politico on their respective shows. This time, when O'Reilly derisively referred to "Chris' pals" (namely, Democrats), Matthews shot back, "At least I got pals." Braving snowstorms that nearly left them stranded back East, the combatants exercised decorum, as well. This was, after all, the latest installment in the Willis M. Tate Distinguished Lecture Series, which later this year is scheduled to welcome Vice President Dick Cheney, novelist John Irving and former CIA director Bob Gates, who now is president of Texas A&M Uni versity. The O'Reilly/Matthews appearance, billed as "War of the Words," may have been the comparative equiva lent of the circus coming to town. But both men wore suits and ties, and generally stifled themselves while the other talked. Late in the game, though, Matthews couldn't help himself. This was after O'Reilly said that a high-level intelligence official told him that most of Saddam Hussein's generals already had cut secret "deals" with the Bush administration. If the United States invades Iraq, they've agreed to surrender rather than be hunted down as "warcriminals," O'Reilly told an audience that included former Texas Gov. Bill Clements in a front- row seat. If O'Reilly is a political "independent" as he claims, then why do so many Bush administration officials confide in him, Matthews jabbed. "You know why they talk to me? Because we’ve got a lot higher ratings than him," O'Reilly told an approv ing crowd. His Factor indeed is the most-watched program on any cable news network. And O'Reilly also has authored two No. 1 bestsellers, "The O'Reilly Factor" and "The No Spin Zone." Matthews immediately sought to put himself in a lion's den by asking how many Republicans and Demo crats were in the crowd. "Three to one" in favor of the Republicans, he deduced before the two adversaries took poles-apart positions on the advisability of war in Iraq. "I look forward to, in four weeks, celebrating the demise of Saddam Hussein," O'Reilly said. Matthews said the Bush administration should find Osama bin Laden first. "The world was behind us on that plan. And we blew that posse.... We're going to be stuck in Iraq when we should have killed bin Laden." Matthews argued. President Bush, whom he referred to as "the young kid," instead has fallen under the influence of the "damned ideologues" who also advised his lather, Matthews said. "We will be seen as the bloodthirsty people - white guys from the West." Ideologues in the Middle East will "hate us whether we move him (Saddam Hussein) out or not." O'Reilly countered. But many in that region \ lew the Iraqi dictator as r ————— "simply bad for business." O'Reilly said, estimating that said O'Reilly, who also had the night s last words betoie wa\- the United States could prevail in two weeks' time while ing goodbye. the Iraqis rally around their liberators. "These tire people who are evil." he said. "We're not. We No one should trust "little Hans Blix." the chief U.N. must defeat them." weapons inspector, to cany the day in Iraq. O'Reilly said. 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